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Sage Francis: A Healthy DistrustA Healthy Distrust (2005)
Epitaph Records

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I remember when I heard of Epitaph signing Sage Francis. My first reaction wasn't so much "what the hell" as it was "who the hell?" See, my blissfully narrow Winamp playlist never really had any hip-hop on it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like it as my knowledge of the genre, like many of the gen.
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I remember when I heard of Epitaph signing Sage Francis. My first reaction wasn't so much "what the hell" as it was "who the hell?" See, my blissfully narrow Winamp playlist never really had any hip-hop on it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like it as my knowledge of the genre, like many of the general public, was the dime-a-dozen artists in rotation on MTV and BET. My first introduction to Sage was on one of the Punk-o-Rama compilations with his post-9/11 "Makeshift Patriot." Needless to say, I was an instant fan.

So out comes his album following the fantastic Personal Journals (this isn't counting the Sage/Joe Beats collaboration Non-Prophets). A Healthy Distrust takes up where Sage left off, with brutally honest, socially aware lyrics that seem to read straight off the front page.

The album opens with "The Buzz Kill" which is almost an introduction of sorts to the rest of the album, roughly touching on various political themes like "I freedom kiss the French for their political dissent / like muah, I do it with tongue this time" all the while over a very hard and aggressive beat that suits the song perfectly. The genius behind this MC is that, while Eminem gets all the credit for being one of the more biting rappers, Sage takes no prisoners with the whole album in a wittier form that Eminem can only dream of. In the song "Slow Down Gandhi," he may be 'pistol whipping cops for hip-hop,' but the underlying theme towards the end is a direct attack on liberals who sit back and whine; "it's the same who complain about the global war / but can't overthrow the local joker that they voted for."

On the first listen, many of the one-liners go straight over one's head, but the beauty of A Healthy Distrust is that with each listen, the album gets that much better. It's like watching a movie over and over and catching little directing/cinematography tricks that make you appreciate it more. Obviously, this isn't your typical hip-hop album that is going to get everyone up dancing and talking about bitches and hoes. Even the song that seems most suitable to this "Dance Monkey" is a Beastie Boys-like track that still has more I.Q. than most of the hip-hop community combined.

A Healthy Distrust is by all rights a fantastic album, but I felt a bit lacking compared to Personal Journals. The lyrics just don't seem to be as much of a personal story, and that was a huge appeal for me when I was getting into Sage. Then again, this album is by far much more accessible for people who are looking to get into him and is by no rights a bad album at all. Really, some of the best hip-hop I have heard in a while. Now, that might not seem like I am saying much, but my musical tastes have grown a bit more varied since the introduction.

[originally wriiten for readysteadyjedi]

 

 
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Poison_Operation (July 11, 2005)

"...the beauty of A Healthy Distrust is that with each listen, the album gets that much better."

This is probably the statement I agree with most in this review. I'm not much into the whole rap/hip-hop genre, but this guy is...dare I say it..."tight." Lyrically amazing.

--Steve--

druhol (March 7, 2005)

This is such a good album. It makes me wanna get up, dance, and maybe smash the state a little.

Anonymous (March 5, 2005)

First off, quit with that bullshit that a punk site can't review hip hop, especially when the record at hand is under a punk label... so SHATTHEFAKUP!!!

Secondly this record's dope, i'm a heavy hip hop head, and this shit's ingenious, but the concepts of the lyrics, i think, hav gon a bit ova some of ur heads, but that's ok, especially here, cuz i believe thats the point...

Rif Raf

Anonymous (February 16, 2005)

"i'm getting more into hip hop and really dig groups like a tribe called quest. give me a list of groups in that vein-you know, socially/political conscience, focusing on good, catchy beats, none of the nelly/jay z/dmx thug mtv rap bullshit."

De La Soul, Blackolicious, Saul Williams, Roots, Visionaries or anything by 2mex (might be a bit complex for those new to hip hop). People Under The Stairs, Pharcyde, Pharoahe Monch, Mars Ill, Blackstar, Binary Star ...... and a billion others.

Anonymous (February 15, 2005)

stop talking like a nigger

Anonymous (February 15, 2005)

i agree lil whytes beats are amazing his tie in with 3-6 mafia definitely owns, whytes low bass hits so hard in almost every one of his songs. he also raps about how he grew up in the ghetto of memphis. i also agree, sage francis eats my asshole

Anonymous (February 15, 2005)

sage francis eats my asshole if you want good white rap listen to lil whyte nuff said

8dollarclarinetsolo (February 13, 2005)

wait did some one down there diss cash money??? fuck you

8dollarclarinetsolo (February 13, 2005)

very true. ugly duckling, cage, really anything on eastern conference, as well as sage francis, yeah that shits all better

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Rap sounds better when it's done by white people. Anyone else notice that?

-nfgrawker

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Come on guys, I thought everyone knew MC Lars was the best rapper?

If you like this, I urge to to check out Dalek's new record. Absolutely fucking amazing. And before some tool with an IQ of 7 goes off, I don't really like MC Lars.

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

I strongly urge you to take a look at pitchfork's review:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/f/francis _sage/healthy-distrust.shtml

which discusses this issue at length.

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

It sounds to me like you're trying to draw an arbitrary lines to shield your support of sexism and homophobia... and sadly you'll feel comfortable in it because significant portions of our society have decided that such prejudices just aren't as offensive as other forms of discrimination.

sickboi (February 11, 2005)

BSD-

On NWA, you're 100% right. But as far as "the Chronic", I think that was Dre telling stories through song. I'm sure a lot of it is based on real events, nonetheless, I see a huge difference between him and the "bling-blingers".

Someone like Dre, that comes from nothing, expected to be poor or hooked on drugs and dead at 25, is obviously gonna do a little "flossing" when he makes it big.

I think he said it best in "Forgot about Dre" from Chonic 2001:

"Mad at me because I can finally afford to provide my family groceries"

Though there's a big difference between groceries and Bentley's, I think you get what I'm saying.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

omg wut is this? www.NOTpunknews.com? hehehehehehehehelakdfj;adlkhf

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

its called "The Documentary" not the "Democracy"

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

BENEFIT.
has no one heard benefit? you can not fuck with benny.
also:
last emperor
L fudge
KRS ONE
public enemy
eyedea
mos def
J5
high and mighty
wu tang

oh..and i kinda like the game's new cd the democracy.. its pretty good
- howard melvin

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Well said, BSD.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

"Dre's lyrics talk about what he's "seen" and what living in those conditions does to someone. He glorifies nothing. You want glorified bullshit? Listen to Cash-Money"

Uh... SickBoi, I usually think you're spot on (well, most of the time), but you're wrong here... Dre was a pivotal part of NWA (tell me they didn't glorify the gangsta lifestyle) and The Chronic has a number of songs about taking part in illegal activities that, while they may be just "what he's seen", he's telling them from a perspective where he gets away with all of these crimes.

If gangsta rap isn't glorifying gangstas, what is it then?

I know Dre and crew aren't sincerely murderers, but to say they're just "telling it how it is" is ignoring the fact that all they're doing is making a buck hawking ghetto fairy tales to suburban white kids, while making young blacks who look up to them think that all there is to life is material possessions...

-BSD

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

you are just surmising then, because if you listened to his work, you'd know that less than 5% of his work could be classified as hate speech. Hasty generalization.

Why can't a racist be poetic? poetry is just words put together, the message doesn't matter. I can recognize great poetry in a lot of nonsecular writings. It doesn't mean I agree with all the Jesus crap, but it's poetry nonetheless.

sickboi (February 10, 2005)

Dre's lyrics talk about what he's "seen" and what living in those conditions does to someone. He glorifies nothing. You want glorified bullshit? Listen to Cash-Money.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

So are white-power groups "poets" too?

After a point, I think it's all hate speech. And I think it's pretty indefensible as anything but that.

Anchors (February 10, 2005)

I definitely agree with you on that. Nas is one of the best lyricists around in hip hop today, and while he's not at the level he was on 'Illmatic,' he's still head and shoulders above a lot of the crowd.

I also agree with you on Dre lyrics, they've never been that outstanding, it's the beats and flows that impessed me the most.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Nas may have a history of some pretty odd misogynist themes, even on his new album, but if you back to Illmatic, and take some key tracks from his last 3 albums, including the Lost Tapes collection, you can really see that he is a poet at heart, and a really smart guy to boot. All great artists have contradictions, and if you can get past those with someone like Nas, you'll find a great lyricist. Dre on the other hand, I respect him moreso for his production but.. eh, never was impressed by his words.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Maybe you're the retard Sickboi. I've listened to both and there's no question but that both use glorified violence, sexism, occasional racism and homophobia as significant themes. Far too much, in fact, for it merely to be chalked up to parody or some "artistic" statement. (A point also supported by the corresponding music videos.)

sickboi (February 10, 2005)

Retard below has never listened to Nas or Dre.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Considering that a lot of SF's music criticizes typical gangsta-rap, the lifestyle it sells, and the people who buy into it, why are so many posters singing the praises of rappers like Nas, Dre, etc?

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

This album is too much intellectual bullshit, hip-hop needs to get back to its roots. MCs need to rap about reality and things normal people can relate to, and my question is, who can't relate to candy? I NEED CANDY!!! BUBBLE GUM AND TAFFY!!! GET IN MY WAY PUNK YOUR GONNA GET YOUR ASS BEAT NASTY!!!

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Who is the Drizzle?

Inspection12e (February 10, 2005)

i can't stand gangster hip hop/rap. fuck Notorius BIG.

Anchors (February 10, 2005)

Try 8, and Tupac is 9, and was mentioned.

I need to find something better to do at 4 A.M. This insomnia bullshit is not working out.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Yeah, he's only been dead for 7 years.

-BSD

Anchors (February 9, 2005)

Nobody's mentioned the Notorious in this thread?

Weak.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

i own all of they releazed EPs n they fizzull length n cant wait fo' they nizzy full length. they're on tha verge of being tha nizzext big thing n tha name Louis XIV wizzle be on tha tips of tha tongues of all those who recognize n appreciate bootylicious music if you gots a paper stack. big congrats ta mah local boys Louis XIV!!!... n ta all those who is skeptical shitheezees: you wanna be gangsta not messin' forget tha name bitches...Louis XIV if you gots a paper stack.

Jesse (February 9, 2005)

Oh, fuck yes on the Wu-Tang. Shit, man. Don't think I missed the ball on that one.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Deltron 3030
Del the funkee homosapien

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

MC Chris is terrible.

MC Pee Pants is the only tolerable thing he's recorded (and that other episode where he's a cow, oh the worm one is gold too).

I'm hijacking these comments.

I like this album 'n all, but let's have more discussion on the Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

- Kirby

TJmoney (February 9, 2005)

It's all about the Wu-Tang!!
get Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang...36 Chambers
pretty much anything Wu-oriented is great, Gza - Liquid Swords and Masta Killa's new cd is really good

Also:
Nas - Illmatic
Mobb Deep - ...The infamous
Lil Wyte - Phinally Phamous and Doubt me Now (one of the best flows I've ever heard and he's down with the 3-6 mafia...do not sleep on this cat)
BLACK STAR
COMMON (Sense)
everyone loves 2pac (he still comes out with new shit so *I-capped-2pac....you missed*)
Dead Prez are really good
OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
as for mainstream/mtv shit that's tolerable...T.I. is actually decent, Ludacris is just funny

Wu-Tang is the best though

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

weerd science is the drummer from coheed and cambria i think

Inspection12e (February 9, 2005)

anyone heard this weerd science cd equal vision is releasing? i heard the free mp3 and was pretty impressed.

pwfanatic (February 9, 2005)

"iWarsawpack is so much better, and recieves so much less attention."

i love them, but i would have to say that their lack of attention goes with the fact that they broke up.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

where is the worlds apart review. cats are sleepin

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

I like this but I like non-prophets-hope much better. The latest MF Doom is ill, go buy that too.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

The lyrics don't fit together well on this. It's like he has an idea, but gets sidetracked before he can finish his thought.

J-Live though is tops.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Icapped2pac-
Hey, I grabbed the new One Be Lo today and I must agree, it is lightyears beyond FETUS. This is almost what I was hoping for out of the latest Nas, which fell a bit short. I'm really going to have to listen to some of your older recommendations cause I'm consistently liking what you endorse.

Jesse (February 9, 2005)

Sickboi -

Remember? Everything I say isn't really serious? It's hard to convey sarcasm on the internet...

Please don't think that I actually take this Punknews gig that seriously. I mean, I got the position because I bugged Scott about it and he said, "Okay, here's shit no one else wants to touch."

Ryan -

You're right about Dre. He was definitely on point with his early 90s shit. The New Chronic (as I call it) had some killer beats on it. But he definitely fit nailed that West Coast Gangsta sound down, I just think he's trying not to get stuck sounding the same, so he's trying new things. And it's just not as good.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Warsawpack is so much better, and recieves so much less attention.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

this album is the shit. also i heard some immortal technique for the first time last night (bad ass grimey NW mardi gras music!) and I thought that shit was tight

sickboi (February 9, 2005)

Jesse-

I have no problem with your reviews, they entertain me. But don't try to make yourself to be something you're not just because you are a "staff writer", sounds like some AP.net BS.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

i'm just tired off all this grabage dre has produced recently, as for doctor dre. Snoop was good, but drop it like its hot was my third least favorite single of the past year in hip hop.. only beaten out by just lose it by eminem and that new 50 cent song "candy shop". It's sad because those rappers are all on the same label or at least subsidarys and those songs are so fucking shitty... and I still like eminems first cd alot.

As for cash money theres a difference between that and the good stuff I listed. I just like cash money alot in the way that it entertains me so much(i guess in the same way lil jon does other people?). Seriously just download the new mannie fresh solo album "the mind of mannie fresh", its so funny and good. but I think I like cash money because they are funny on purpose, and have a sense of humor and don't take it seriously.

love,
ryan

Jesse (February 9, 2005)

Yet, we're both staff reviewers...kinda makes you look stupid for making a comment like that. If we don't belong on the site, then why would we be staff reviewers?

Anchors -
It's just that on the whole Dre is a million times better as a producer and even though "Fuck Wit Dre Day" is pretty smooth, it's also very basic and simple.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

It's official, the two bitches below me don't belong on this site.

Anchors (February 9, 2005)

I really disagree about your assessment of Dre. He's not the best rapper, but there are some songs where his flow is unmatched. Ex: 'Fuck With Dre Day.' That flow is so smooth.

But yeah, love Tupac, older stuff more, all the posthumous releases impress me less each time. Nas is another that kind of gets forgotten about, but is definitely solid.

I'm really a fan of Illogic and Clouddead lately, too.

Jesse (February 9, 2005)

Saul Williams kills it. Public Enemy Kills it. Dre kills beats but raps like a two bit OG. Snoop has the potential for killer flows. Del had some really good stuff before it got more watered down and spread between all his projects. I liked the first two Atmosphere releases. Eydea has some of the craziest freestyle. Talib Kweli is amazing but I don't have any of his stuff yet.

Slick Rick, anyone? Tupac?

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Black is beautiful and don't you forget it!

-Ron Artest

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

MC Chris indeed.

Fett's Vette is quite the guilty pleasure (guilty in knowing most of the references)

-duped

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

I meant "fucking call" on the saul williams thing!! Honeslty he/she is right go get saul williams cd off the fader label, it's amazingly good!! Score is for that album!!

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

As for my stuff I like
high and mighty (obviously)
cage(obviously)
public enemy
gang starr
nwa
smut peddlers
i like aesop rocks first album alot
mc paul barman
mannie fresh
lil wayne

I can't stand cash money, but you could've put the worst shit in the world on your list, but because you listed Gang Starr and PE, you still would've gotten respect from me!!

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

"You guys should listen to Saul Williams."

Wow, I'm actually listening to saul williams as I type this!!! Good fuking call!!!

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

He sucks.

It's all about the Urban Thermo-Dynamics

-BSD

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"Lil' Jon ripped off Mystikal, who in turn ripped off James Brown. Cut the shit and listen to James Brown."

Amen Sickboi. Lil Jon is about as cool as dick cancer.

-!GreenVandal!

Inspection12e (February 8, 2005)

MC Chris

Benjasaurus (February 8, 2005)

The one rapper it's ok for punk kids to like.

You guys should listen to Saul Williams.

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

the new leak brothers is good, i got that, and nighthawks. waterworld is a great album. Nonphixion is great too. I'm gonna be honset, on our way to detorit to record our cd I bought the new lil jon cd, because I was like "this will be enetertaining for our drive, for good or for bad, definetly entertaining". Then after 4 songs I actually couldn't take it anymore. It really is barely music, although ridiculous, because between the first 4 songs i think theres maybe 2 verses, and lots of chanting.. for 5 minutes.. haha, it drove me completely insane.

As for my stuff I like
high and mighty (obviously)
cage(obviously)
public enemy
gang starr
nwa
smut peddlers
i like aesop rocks first album alot
mc paul barman
mannie fresh
lil wayne

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

ANTICON BITCH! sole has the dopest flow in the world. alias is a fuckin lyrical genius. odd nosdam and dosh have the illest instrumentals. oh yeah if you dig sage then get the sick of...... series.

Icapped2pac (February 8, 2005)

Dude, the new One Be Lo is way better than F.E.T.U.S. That was really more just a mish-mash of random tracks he put together. The new one is way more cohesive, and the production is incredible if you like that golden age sound. Score's for S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M.

Icapped2pac (February 8, 2005)

GOD DAMN, how could I forget to mention J-Live? Check out his albums "The Best Part" and "All of the Above" if you want ill thought-provoking lyrics and dope beats. But, judging by the new joints that DJ Premier has been playing on his weekly show on Sirius, whenever J comes with a new album, it'll be his best shit yet.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

How is the new One Be Lo. i got FETUS after he opened for slug, and thought it to be pretty decent. Not outstanding... I liked Blueprints stuff more... Soul Position. But it was still good and his live show enough to look into getting his new release.

ElVaquero (February 8, 2005)

WHAT!

OKAY!

YEAH!

Anchors (February 8, 2005)

Man, I can't help it.

I don't sit down and listen to entire albums, but 'I Don't Give A Fuck' must be played every time before I go out at night. It's necessary. I'm not claiming him to be a talented rapper, because that couldn't be further from the truth, but the man has the most infectious energy in the world.

If I want talented emcees, I know where to find them, but when Lil' Jon is blasting through the dorm, it's all about fun.

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

"Seriously though, people need to figure the fuck out that undergound punk and underground hip-hop run parralel tunnels. Anyone intereseted should check out Public Enemy for starters, then move on to the Coup, any artist on Definitive Jux, especially Mr. Lif, and then man up to Dead Prez if they can handle it."

Agreed, all great music. Although dead prez aren't true underground, they're just forced into the underground because the mainstream can't handle what they have to say.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I don't usually listen to rap/hip-hop, but this really is great. I'd love to see him tour with Bad Religion one day, that'd be bloody excellent.

Joe

Icapped2pac (February 8, 2005)

Freddie Foxxx = great
Freddie Foxxx's last album = garbage

To the dude who wanted more music in the vein of Tribe, check out the new De La Soul or anything by the Justus League collective (Little Brother, L.E.G.A.C.Y., Foreign Exchange, Big Pooh, The Away Team) or the new album "S.O.N.O.G.R.A.M." by One Be Lo, formerly of Binary Star (check out www.subterraneousrecords.com).

I'm sick of hearing/talking about Sage. He just doesn't do it for me. I agree with the dude who made the ICP comment. I do, however, like that he gets political. Hip-hop needs more thought, and less bling.

And Anchors, I'm absolutely appalled that you listen to Lil' Jon. That shit is short-bus rap, in a bad way. And it's not even close to hip-hop.

Jesse (February 8, 2005)

His rhymes are generally pretty good, but I like him better as a slam poet rather than a hip-hop emcee.

Mos Def, The Roots, A Tribe Called Quest, Heiruspecs...

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

What? No talk about bitches, ho's and my pimped out rides? Man, fuck this shit. This ain't hip-hop!

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

Amazingly good record, not quite as good as "personal journals", but a masterpiece nonetheless. Glad to see it reviewed here!

ElVaquero (February 8, 2005)

I listen to...

Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Company Flow, De La Soul, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, Atmosphere, Control Machete, Living Legends, Hieroglyphics, Automator projects, Black Star, K Dub Shine, and anything else that blows my hair back

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

Freddie Fox (aka Bumpy Knuckles)>all those wack-ass MC's out there today

Necro is tight too.

Anchors (February 8, 2005)

"Drinkin' Cris in the V.I., I don't give a fuck!
Talkin' shit 'bout me bitch I don't give a fuck!
You gotta pocket fulla money nigga, I don't give a fuck!
You drinkin' off with them ho's bitch I don't give a fuck!
In the club wit yo' pussy click, I don't give a fuck!
Security on my dick bitch, I don't give a fuck!"

^ Why I love Lil' Jon.

Inspection12e (February 8, 2005)

Ii can't get into this crap at all. The vocals remind me of one of the guys from ICP when he sings take me to your local drug dealer(the free mp3 on epitaphs site). Mos Def all the way.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

'I think cage is definetly my favorite rapper. What hip hop does everyone here listen to?'

Yea, I do like cage, but sometimes his morbid subject matter gets old. You should check out Nighthawks, which is a collaboration of Cage and Camu Tao. Also check out Leak Bros.
I like anything from old to new hip hop/rap. Natural Elements, Ill bill/non phixion, immortal technique, old-redman, old- outkast, the procussions, pharcyde, big L, scienz of life, jadakiss, nas, dead prez..etc etc

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

Lil' Jon ripped off Mystikal, who in turn ripped off James Brown. Cut the shit and listen to James Brown.

Anchors (February 8, 2005)

Eyedea And Abilites, Afu-Ra, and Lil' Jon have been rocking my winamp playlist a lot lately.

Say what you will about Lil' Jon, but that motherfucker has some infectious energy.

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

ok maybe not best ever, but up there. I think cage is definetly my favorite rapper. What hip hop does everyone here listen to?

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Rap sucks. Or hip-hop. Whatever. I haven't even heard a song from this album and yet I give it a 1.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Good review. This is a great album in its own right, but Personal Journals is one of my favorite albums ever so I was bound to be let down. The beats are more interesting and complex on this album, but I feel like they sometimes get in the way of the words, and its the words that show Sage's genius. The lyrics certainly aren't dumbed down, but I don't they don't stick with me and make me think the way Personal Journals' do. Then again I discover new phrases and insights that make me smile every time I listen to Personal Journals, so I guess that may happen with this one as well...

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

Best hip-hop ever?

Come on, that's a bit of a stretch.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

i'm getting more into hip hop and really dig groups like a tribe called quest. give me a list of groups in that vein-you know, socially/political conscience, focusing on good, catchy beats, none of the nelly/jay z/dmx thug mtv rap bullshit.

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

This is a good cd, although it's funny that all of a sudden all these punk labels are signing hip hop groups. It's suddenly like "look, hip hop is cool, and politically consience!". Theres so many great rappers out there as there always have been and it's funny because most of this shit getting signed isn't even very good(i mean the gym class heroes, come on). But sage is good, straight edge white guy rap, whats not to love?

Also, does anyone besides me think cage and the high and mighty and most eastern conference stuff is the best hip hop ever? (although cage is on def jux now)

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

my old school napster gets me free shit still! beat that suckas!

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"fuck you you fuckin winamp using caveman.

itunes biotch"

itunes is a peice of corn dog shit. its all about windows media player

ElVaquero (February 8, 2005)

obligatory public enemy comment

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"I don't think any hip-hop should be reviewed on a punk site."

I don't think morons should be allowed on the internet.

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

What's with those 3 X's? Is Sage down with the "edge"?

Or maybe he got stoked when he heard Ice Cube is the next XXX?

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

don't get me wrong. i don't know a goddamn thing about hip-hop, but i do know a thing or two about this album, having listened to it quite a few times.

i think the reviewer completely missed the point in calling this a political record. yes, "slow down gandhi" is a political song, but "buzz kill" certainly is not. that song, along with the rest of the record, listens more like a journal than anything else--his own personal views, feelings, and opinions--which may include (but not limited to) politics.

no, this record is not flawless. "sun vs. moon" is forgettable (though the description of "the deserts are reflections of his eyes" is no less than hott), he relies very heavily on puns and one-liners, and sometimes things he says are just embarrassing (the burp sfx in "sun vs. moon." i think the most glaring problem is that, as literary as he can be, his songs become overloaded and lose their cohesiveness--what probably confused the reviewer--as each song seems to jump from message to message and may become lost on the listener.

otherwise, i'd say this record is great, from this non-hip-hop regular. as a skeptic of the genre, sage proves my pervasive notion that a genre relying so heavily on the words spoken must have something to say to be worth listenening to--and sage delivers with poetic style, a sense of poignancy, and the bravery to portray himself at times as a less-than-perfect guy.

-duped
(this was meant as a comment, and kind of worked its way up as a sloppy, quasi-review)

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I don't think we should let non-hip hop fans review hip hop.

Why? It might get other people who aren't hip-hop fans into the genre.

theundergroundscene (February 8, 2005)

"It's hard to find good rap nowadays"

then you are totally looking in the wrong places my friend

i haven't heard this but personal journals was fantastic

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Good review - I can't wait to get this.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I don't think any hip-hop should be reviewed on a punk site.

ElVaquero (February 8, 2005)

I don't think we should let non-hip hop fans review hip hop.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I like bridle.

alot.

wyzo

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

This album is solid...Can't wait to see him live later this month.

TimmayJ (February 8, 2005)

Heard "Slow Down Gandhi." Awesome song. It's hard to find good rap nowadays. When I find this album, I am so buying it.

Tim

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Why does every asshole have to judge hip-hop by what they see on MTV? It really fucking pisses me off more than any thing. To say Sage has more skill when compared to Eminem is fucking retarded as saying Dillinger Four is marginally better than Good Charolette. Are the "punks" always going to be retarded. It reminds me of high school when parents let there kids rebel to christian-era MXPX because they were afraid that they would smoking dope to Cop Killa. Luckily, I had friends in school that got kicked out of the Boy Scouts and exposed me to Sage. Assemblies meant packin bowls and playing Sick Of Waiting Tables! Seriously though, people need to figure the fuck out that undergound punk and underground hip-hop run parralel tunnels. Anyone intereseted should check out Public Enemy for starters, then move on to the Coup, any artist on Definitive Jux, especially Mr. Lif, and then man up to Dead Prez if they can handle it. Peace.

stevejonestherealbones (February 8, 2005)

fuck you you fuckin winamp using caveman.

itunes biotch

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Get rich to this!!

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