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Lagwagon: Live In A DiveLive In A Dive (2005)
Fat Wreck Chords

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Can I say this is the best live punk band ever? Yes, I can, since I have lost count on the number of shows I attended for Lagwagon. It must have been close to ten since 1994 or something. Whether it was in a small club at the start of their career or larger venues when they were making a name for th.
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Can I say this is the best live punk band ever? Yes, I can, since I have lost count on the number of shows I attended for Lagwagon. It must have been close to ten since 1994 or something. Whether it was in a small club at the start of their career or larger venues when they were making a name for themselves or at festivals at the time almost ALL kids wore their shirts, this band has never ever disappointed me.

Sure, there's the typical party bands that have the potential of getting people off their feet with their music like Flogging Molly or Mad Caddies for example, but there's only a couple bands that play "my dearest" melodic punk rock live and succeed in getting me as ecstatic as their studio albums did.

These 22 live songs recorded in Hollywood's House Of Blues in spring 2003 dig through their 6 magnificent albums, of which their 4 first ones rank with my top 30 albums of all time, no doubt, with Trashed being one of the best punk albums ever written. Joey Cape's voice has been praised enough I guess, and maybe is the main reason for this band's live success, but the guy is sounding always in tune, something which is one of the most difficult obstacles any band in our punk scene has to deal with and too often fails if you ask me.

No need to describe their sound for sure, but let me tell you that these recordings taken care of by Ryan Greene just sound deservingly clear and close to the original I'd expected it to sound live. I never liked the comics that came with these Live In A Dive series, but that's probably because I lack good taste when it comes to humor.

A few downsides: I know they hate to play "Brown Eyed Girl," but was disappointed that they didn't include it anyway, and the version of "Back One Out" wasn't the best I heard them perform that song either. Why in hell didn't they play their "All Aboard the Lagwagon" or "Know It All" classics, and why wasn't "Bye For Now" not the closing song? Well, you can't have them all I suppose. Although I still prefer their studio albums above a live recording (something that goes for every band) this one sounds clean enough to get some spins in the next few weeks here, and is for sure one thing a diehard fan like me will grab back to with nostalgic feelings after this band has disbanded one day. Let's hope I'll have grandchildren before that happens.

 

 
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drbino (April 11, 2008)

These guys shit all over the lawrence arms. Coffee and cigarettes is sweet as on this album!

nikko (October 19, 2005)

this is a great cd but a cuple songs r missin well that i like but does neone no if bad astronaut is broken up??please email me or sumthin if u no for a fact cuz i rlly like them

by the way neone think the guy singin on knock one out sounds like the sick of it all singer??

Anonymous (October 7, 2005)

How come no one mentions Frenzal Rhomb in their top Fat bands??

Anonymous (April 12, 2005)

Yessum it was Fat, War was the first full length original 45 or 46 was a bootlegs and bsides type of thing, they had a couple of songs from so long and thanks for all the shoes. Longest line was a ep-they've released a pretty healthy amount of eps on fat haven't they? The decline was a ep not a record-only one song regardless of how long it was. Lagwagon is the shit by the way, I haven't got this cd yet I'm lagging ass 'cause I'm broke. They are the shit live. Once Joey had a fucked up throat and he had us do punk rock kareoke with him. He picked people from the crowd and let the sing whatever song we wanted, it was the shit. He promised they'd come back and they did for like 5 bucks a ticked which earns them a shitload of points with me. Cause I'm in Arizona and it's hot so that tight that he did so. Anywho yay fat period fuck all fat bashers!

Dam Mad

TahoeJeff (February 20, 2005)

nope it was on fat

Anonymous (February 15, 2005)

War on Errorism was their first real full length album with new material though on FAT.

Wasn't 45 or 46 songs that weren't good enough on Epitaph?

TahoeJeff (February 15, 2005)

and The Longest Line...

Anonymous (February 15, 2005)

and I Heard They Suck Live

TahoeJeff (February 14, 2005)

45 Or 46 Songs That Weren't Good Enough...
The War on Errorism
The Decline

thats 3 albums on Fat

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

My top Fat Wreck Chords bands(based on the bands material that was released on Fat and had more than one album with Fat)

1. Strung Out
2. The Lawrence Arms
3. Anti-Flag
4. Good Riddance
5. Me first and the gimme gimmes
6. Lagwagon
7. NUFAN
8. Propagandhi
9. Consumed
10. Rise Against

Top Fat Wreck chords bands who only put out one cd on Fat
1. ZeroDown
2. Descendents
3. NOFX
4. Less than Jake
5. Only Crime

corpseofmymotivation (February 14, 2005)

"Somebody mentioned 88 fingers louie. Their last album was golden. Pick it up kids, you won't be disappointed."

I mentioned them. Back on the Streets was incredible. Their split with Kid Dynamite is one of the best splits in punk history too.

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

Somebody mentioned 88 fingers louie. Their last album was golden. Pick it up kids, you won't be disappointed.

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

CCR > Van Morrison.

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

I saw Lagwagon in '99 and they gave the audience the choice between Brown Eyed Girl (which we chose) and Bad Moon Rising. They also did that Drag The River cover which kicks all ass.

Oh yeah, anyone who talks shit about The Caper, I'm going to Dirty Sanchez your dad.

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

i've seen lagwagon twice and neither time did they play brown eyed girl

paul

TahoeJeff (February 14, 2005)

Like Me First and the Gimme Gimmes? You are an idiot

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

Score is for punk bands who record a cover song on their cd, and then play the same fucking cover song for years at live shows.

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

Bad Astronaut is still around, from what I hear, they are going to do another album this year...

paul

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 14, 2005)

Is Bad Atronaut still around? I loved "Houston...".

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

oh and speaking of the caper, Bad Astronaut 'houston we have a drinking problem' was the best record of 2002 (or was that 2003?) aside from Apathy and Exhaustion (was that 02 or 03?)

paul

Anonymous (February 14, 2005)

Pully has always been 'meh' in my book, and this is coming from someone who had esteem driven engine when it was new. I personally think 'matters' is their best album, no wonder it inspired strung out to work w/ matt hyde. anyway, pully is cool, but their lyrics mostly suck and scotts voice isn't half of what the capers can do. and technically they are very solid, but can't touch the wagon in that regard either, especially the stuff on blaze and feelings.

diesel boy is pretty bad, but funny and nostalgic. they have about 10 songs i like. rubbing the elf is pretty great, and of course titty twister (and fat vol. 2 in general) is classic.

paul

TahoeJeff (February 13, 2005)

Lagwagon and Pulley basically the same band? Pulley technically better? Is there some totally different Pulley that I don't know about?

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

Lagwagon are punk gods, but no one ever mentions Pulley. To me they are the same band. Pulley is technically better, but Joey has a better voice than Scott.

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

"lyricality" HAHAHAHAHAHA

What? "Lyricality" is an actual word you fucking moron.

-Chinatown

corpseofmymotivation (February 13, 2005)

"Lagwagon are punk gods, but know one ever mentions Pulley. To me they are the same band. Pulley is technically better, but Joey has a better voice than Scott."

I can't take much Pulley at one time. Scott's voice makes me want to shoot myself. Zero Down. Now that was a band.

corpseofmymotivation (February 13, 2005)

""I can easily give you a list of bands to avoid: anything on victory, fearless, hopeless, kung fu (especially tsunami bomb)...those labels really have no reason to exist."

Bigwig is on Fearless and 88 Fingers Louie was on Hopeless. Neither of them should be disregarded. Also, as far as non-punk stuff goes, Victory's got Streetlight Manifesto and Comeback Kid. Don't disregard entire labels, no matter how many shitty bands they have. I really can't defend Kung Fu though. That shit's awful.

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

Lagwagon are punk gods, but know one ever mentions Pulley. To me they are the same band. Pulley is technically better, but Joey has a better voice than Scott.

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

"Endless Summer Days" and "Punk Rock Girl" are probably my fav Diesel Boy songs. That stroking cat song is pretty cool too although I'd replace a lot of the girls names in it.

Crookedsuperhero (February 13, 2005)

Most people dismiss Diesel Boy as a lame Guttermouth knockoff, but songs such as "Dear John," "A Thousand Cigarettes," and "Chin Music" were quite strong in terms of lyricality. I'd definitely place Sofa King Cool in my top 20 punk albums of the 90s--albeit near the bottom.

-Chinatown

"lyricality" HAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Most people dismiss Diesel Boy as a lame Guttermouth knockoff, but songs such as "Dear John," "A Thousand Cigarettes," and "Chin Music" were quite strong in terms of lyricality. I'd definitely place Sofa King Cool in my top 20 punk albums of the 90s--albeit near the bottom.

-Chinatown

TahoeJeff (February 12, 2005)

Diesel Boy was the best...its a shame they went on hiatus.

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

Diesel Boy was the best band Honest Don's ever had. Sofa King Cool is great.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 12, 2005)

"New topic: anyone else know any really good bands that an old Fat Wreck fan would like but may not know about?"

yes, enemy you is an excellent band if you're seeking out So Cal punk. I might also recommend bands like the briefs, alkaline trio, and even anti-flag. not exactly the same stuff, but those bands seem to appeal to folks with older tastes. I can easily give you a list of bands to avoid: anything on victory, fearless, hopeless, kung fu (especially tsunami bomb)...those labels really have no reason to exist.

8dollarclarinetsolo (February 11, 2005)

1. dillinger four
2 lawrence arms
3 descendents
4 nofx
5 lagwagon
6 none more black
7 bracket
8 against me!
9 propagandhi
10 good riddance

if you count honest dons put bad astronaut way up there

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

New topic: anyone else know any really good bands that an old Fat Wreck fan would like but may not know about?

Enemy You is a band you will no doubt enjoy. They have two full lengths........Where No One Knows My Name, Panic Button, 1999.....................Stories Never Told, Red Scare, 2004

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 11, 2005)

I'll second the Bigwig recommendation. Too bad Tom can't keep a lineup.

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

"New topic: anyone else know any really good bands that an old Fat Wreck fan would like but may not know about?"

well, based on your list i'd assume you know them, but if not, go buy bigwig-stay asleep right now. seriously. its like, those bands you listed. fast, rediculous leads, sorta sound like a less metal more punk wilhelm scream.

paul

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

The fact that Lagwagon is still this popular is the only thing that gives me any hope in the scene as it exists today. It's pretty rare to hear new(ish) bands doing good quality punk rock with some energy and balls.

Rise Against was the first I heard in a while, and the first band that screamed and I liked it. Strike Anywhere came soon after and Thrice followed (ok so they went a different direction but i still love that band). Newer bands tearing it up are bands like A Wilhelm Scream, Much The Same, Near Miss, Break The Silence.. ok BTS is screamy too but it's still got a lot of good punk elements.

New topic: anyone else know any really good bands that an old Fat Wreck fan would like but may not know about?

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

"wow. i forgot how popular lagwagon is. still . even after the grey hair

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com"

yea shocking, its like why the fuck do people still listen to social distortion and bad religeon, they are so old and groady, gag me w/ a spoon

paul

Anonymous (February 11, 2005)

"TOP Bands that had brief stints with FAT:
1. 88 Fingers Louie
2. Rise Against
3.. Face to Face
4. Less Than Jake"

Where's Guns 'n' Wankers?

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Haha, someone actually ranked the Dickies over Dillinger Four.

That "Puppet Stew" dreck has the be the WORST GODDAMN THING Fat ever put out. The singer sounds like a fucking cartoon character.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

sigh i cant stand lagwagon

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Lagwagon is here _____

_____ and Face 2 Face is there

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

TOP FAT BANDS

1. Lagwagon
2. Strung Out
3. Propagandhi
4. No Use For A Name
5. Good Riddance
6. Sick Of It All
7.Mad Caddies
8. Anti-Flag
9. Swingin Utters
10. Dillinger Four
11. Avail
12. High Standard
13. Lawrence Arms
14. Only Crime
15. Against Me
16. None More Black

TOP Bands that had brief stints with FAT:
1. 88 Fingers Louie
2. Rise Against
3.. Face to Face
4. Less Than Jake

NOT RANKED: ME FIRST AND THE GIMME GIMMES...they are the unofficial best band on FAT!!!!

stevejonestherealbones (February 10, 2005)

wow. i forgot how popular lagwagon is. still . even after the grey hair

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

hahah Limp sucks ass

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

"Avail and Bracket are two bands i've never really gotten around to. from what i've heard, i dig them, but not enough to invest in buying a cd. i love HWM though, thats who avail reminded me of when i saw them open for the souls

everyone go buy pop and disorderly by limp, if you want to hear a great pop punk band that essentially went nowhere in the late 90's."

I just saw Avail a few weeks ago. They put on an excellent show. I see where you're coming from with the HWM comparison, but HWM is far superior. I'm seeing them in about two weeks too. It was said in an article that Bracket could have been the next Green Day, so that might give you an idea of what they're like. They've got really catchy songs and interesting vocals. Also, Limp is awesome, but Honest Don's never did a damn thing for their bands.

Crookedsuperhero (February 10, 2005)

I got a free Limp 7" on orange vinyl a while back. It has something to do with how they sounded back in high school or something. Is it rare? Just out of curiosity obviously, since even if it was the only one made it would still only go for £3.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

"If they can make an album that tops The Greatest Story Ever Told, they'll officially be the best band on the planet and the album will never leave my CD player."

replace GSET w/ apathy and exhaustion, and yea, i agree.

scores for boatless booze cruise

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

I don't care much for propaghandi or good riddance

sickboi, i think i outgrew SOIA, but i LOVED scratch the surface back in the day (ducks rock)

Apathy and Exhuastion is better than GSET but they both rule, brenden is so the shit on and off records

Avail and Bracket are two bands i've never really gotten around to. from what i've heard, i dig them, but not enough to invest in buying a cd. i love HWM though, thats who avail reminded me of when i saw them open for the souls

everyone go buy pop and disorderly by limp, if you want to hear a great pop punk band that essentially went nowhere in the late 90's.

-paul

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

you seem to forget snuff/ guns n wankers (for fat bands).
anyway lagwagon are pretty good live but I really don't think "the best live act", i've seen them 4 times (i'm in europe) and am seeing them again in a couple of months at the groezrock festival but i'm not expecting that much really.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

I can't believe they didn't play any songs from the Leftovers cd.

When I'm bored I like to write out setlists for my fav bands. This would be my ultimate LagWagon set:

1. Want
2. Tragic Vision
3. Billionaire
4. Stokin' the Neighbors
5. Sick
6. Change Despair
7. Burn that bridge when we get to it
8. Losing Everyone
9. Baggage
10. May 16th
11. Give it Back........this was the highlight of the live album i think!
12. Mr. Coffee
13. Razor Burn
14. Dancing the collapse
15. Max Says......can't believe they didnt play this!!!
16. Island of shame
17. Violins
18. Never stops

ENCORE:

19. Defeat You
20. Know it All.......shocked this wasn't on the cd.
21. Bombs Away
22. After you my friend
23. Demented Rumors
24. Sleep

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

Fuck, why'd I only put 8? Oh well.

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

1. Lagwagon/Lawrence Arms (tie)
2. Strung Out
3. None More Black
4. Good Riddance
5. Swingin' Utters
6. Bracket
7. The Dickies
8. Dillinger Four

Honorable Mentions: NUFAN, Against Me!, Avail, Zero Down

I'd put 88 Fingers Louie way up at the top, but their best work was on Hopeless.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Apathy and exhaustion is better than greatest story ever told, and here are the ten best fat bands of all time in my opinion
1. Propagandhi
2. Good Riddance
3. Lawrence Arms
4. Lagwagon
5. No Use
6. Dillenger Four
7. Swinging Utters
8. Anti-Flag
9. Mad Caddies
10. Only Crime (with potential of moving up)

omited are rise against because they left too soon and Strung out because their singer is a prick.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

damn that was poorly worded.....oh well

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

I forgot Propagandhi was on fat... i'd put them on my right behind
Swingin'Utters.......bye bye Anti-Flag

peilocal (February 10, 2005)

Jeez, does nobody remember Propagandhi? In all these lists of Fat's best bands, I didn't see Propagandhi mentioned in any of them. Sure, they aren't everyone's cup of tee, but they get a lot of praise from the "critics" out there. I'm not an idiot and going to say that I think they are the best band (even though I do), and better than your favorite band (that's all opinion). But they do seem to get a lot more praise then most other bands, when they release albums anyway!

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

It seems from the comments below that either you love Lagwagon or you want to fill them with hot lead. Amazingly strong opinions for a fucking rock band.

sickboi (February 10, 2005)

The guy down there is right, I'd put Good Riddance in Fat's top 3 of all time. Nothing but quality releases every time.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

1.Swingin' Utters
2.Sick of It All
3. Strung Out
4.Rise Against
5.Against Me!
6.Avail
7.Lawrence Arms
8.Dillinger Four
9.Good Riddance
10.Anti-Flag

.........not bad

corpseofmymotivation (February 10, 2005)

While we're on the topic of Fat, I'm sorry, but I really don't like the Epoxies. I know they're talented and original, but I can't get into it.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

"This score is for having news/reviews about punk bands on punknews.org for once, instead of stuff about Andrew WK, Taking Back Sunday, and MTV."

yeah, cause when i think "punk" i think lagwagon

whatever
'
- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Lagwagon is better then face to face for every reason ever. Lyrics, talent, the fact that f2f signed to vagrant and sucked some dick.....Im surprised no one has mentioned Good Riddance1)Lagwagon2)Strung Out3)Good Riddance honorable mentions Screw 32, Larry Arms, D4, the caddies, Against Me, NUFAN

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

This score is for having news/reviews about punk bands on punknews.org for once, instead of stuff about Andrew WK, Taking Back Sunday, and MTV.

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

Lawrence Arms CDs

1. Greatest Story Ever Told (can't beat songs The Rablin' Boys of Pleasure and The Revisionist)

2. B-Sides/Splits (their splits are absolutely incredible)

3. Guitded Tour of Chicago (beautifully gritty)

4. Apathy and Exhaustion (amazing, but it doesn't flow)

5. Ghost Stories (I could only get into "Light Breathing" and a few others)

That's my list.

sickboi (February 10, 2005)

Am I the only one that thinks "Apathy and Exhaustion" is better than the "Greatest Story..."?

It just has a better flow and a few more rockin' tracks.

TahoeJeff (February 10, 2005)

I forgot about Avail..they need to be on that list

sickboi (February 10, 2005)

Uh, Paul. Avail and Sick of it All are both on fat as well.

TahoeJeff (February 10, 2005)

except Bracket needs to be on that list...why must we forget about Bracket? And I really think Honest Don's bands need to be included in there since Fat and HD are one in the same. Throw in Diesel Boy on that list and I think we're good.

TahoeJeff (February 10, 2005)

I'm inclined to agree with paul on the top 10

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

"4.lawrence arms (this will someday float to the top, probably after their next album)"

If they can make an album that tops The Greatest Story Ever Told, they'll officially be the best band on the planet and the album will never leave my CD player.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

"Their website has been saying that they aren't dead for a while . They keep changing the wording, so it shows they are keeping up a little bit."

hmm interesting.

oh and since this is getting rediculous, heres my 'best on fat' tree

1.lagwagon
2.nofx (they've gone downhill, but i love them, classic, one of the first punk bands i got into)
3.strung out
4.lawrence arms (this will someday float to the top, probably after their next album)
5.mad caddies
6.dillenger 4
7.NUFAN
8.none more black
9.swingin utters
10.agaisnt me
...i don't care for any of the others (except me first, but they don't really count)

paul

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 10, 2005)

Fat's strongest are definitely The Lawrence Arms, None More Black, and Dillinger Four. No question about that. I have a feeling Fat's roster is going to start looking more and more like that in the future. Don't get me wrong--I miss skate punk just as much as the next guy who grew up with it, but this is what's going on now, and I'm not going to argue with it. It's getting better and better.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

My Dad can beat up your Dad.
Grow up children.
If you're going to do a flowchart, at least stick to reviewers and posters.
A good one would be:
Chinatown blows.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

lag> f2f clash > ramones meatloaf > blink182 volta > strung out

TheBouncingSoul (February 10, 2005)

face to face >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lagwagon

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

I like how this review of lagwagon has turned into worship of the lawrence arms and D4. if you don't like the band reviewed, just discuss a better one.

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

The Larry Arms are slightly outclassed by D4. As much as I think these two bands are currently the most unique in punk rock, D4 have that little extra something special. It might be the distortion, or the vocals slightly buried in the mix...whatever. These guys are the definiton of punk rock.

Against Me! is fine too, but I usually find myself listening to only a few select tracks on ATEC (tracks 6, 8, 9 and 11), while the remainder of the album tends to get ignored.

On the other hand, I can't listen to a D4 album without going from beginning to end, as each and every song is incredible. Their sound never gets old. When the hell will they get a nice T-Shirt design anyway?

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Dillinger Four is killer, but what about Larry, Against Me!, and Nmb? its a tough tough call, represent the gandhi as well!

Barkley

Anonymous (February 10, 2005)

Score is for The Larry Arms and Strung Out

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

The Lawrence Arms>all other bands. still.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Let's build on this:

GUNS AND WANKERS>D4>LAWRENCE ARMS>STRUNG OUT>ONLY CRIME>LAGWAGON>FACE TO FACE>NUFAN

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

are you kidding? what the hell was wrong with How To Ruin Everything>?
it was their best record in years.
what? to catchy for you?

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Dillinger Four is the best band on Fat. Anyone who disagrees has a low IQ.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

hey now, i'm under 21 and Lagwagon has been one of my favorite bands ever since i heard them years and years ago when i was in the 8th grade. and i'm afraid that:

LAGWAGON>FACE TO FACE>NUFAN

let's face it. joey cape DESTROYED tony sly in that split. even tho it wasnt a contest. i saw it as one. anywho. i got bored with tony sly's stuff, i almost cried when i heard 27 acoustic. ahhhhhh i love the wagon.

greg0rb (February 9, 2005)

Hey i love limp too, and I also bought their most recent album. Pop and Disorderly and Fine Girl are the shiiiiiiiit! Them and Lagwagon were my two fav bands for most of high school. Good times.
-Greg

TahoeJeff (February 9, 2005)

damn..Ive been missing some good posts..getting all nostalgic about ska and shit, Pop and Disorderly, going to shows and not worrying about image...(like I care about image anyway..) Good times

TahoeJeff (February 9, 2005)

yeah...I keep checkin if limp is coming back...the Fine Girl EP is killer

IheartAdam (February 9, 2005)

Score is for Bloofy. Herpes carrier extradonaire.

bloofy (February 9, 2005)

Whoa whoa WHOA!
Why all the hate for Duh? That album is BY FAR Lagwagons best.
Catchy, dark, melodic, mature and fast, this album is far better than anything else Lagwagon have released!

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Paul, I care about your opinion, only because you like Limp and I think we are the only two people who bought the last Limp LP.

Their website has been saying that they aren't dead for a while . They keep changing the wording, so it shows they are keeping up a little bit.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Yeah no cares about your opinion

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

since we're all voicing opinions that no one cares about, heres mine

lagwagon OWNS face to face

whoopdydamndoo

paul

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

"haha i got the limp reference, nice. What ever happened to limp? Cause pop and disorderly, guitarded, and that fine girl ep were so good. And personally i'm gonna have to say that if your looking at their entire careers as track records lagwagon is better than face to face"

they came out w/ an album spring 2002 that was s/t. it wasn't as good as guitarded or pop and disorderly, although there were some classics on it. they broke up afterwards, but i heard they got back together, then maybe broke up again.

and i'm agreed on lagwagon>f2f

paul

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

I would take FACE TO FACE over LAGWAGON any day

Big_Guy (February 9, 2005)

"no, lagwagon was not, is not and never will be better than face to face."

If you think How To Ruin Everything was good, then there is something wrong with you

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

The best band on FAT are the Swingin' Utters, dont ever forget that

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

double plaidnum is second to Trashed for sure.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Lagwagon - best band on Fat. (period) way better than Face to Face and all that gay shit.

sickboi (February 9, 2005)

I guess we all have opinions. Like I said, Lagwagon has some AMAZING songs, but I can't listen to a single album all the way through.

beaarthur (February 9, 2005)

Trashed. There's the one album that beats both Don't Turn Away and Big Choice.

notfeelingcreative (February 9, 2005)

Tell me ONE Lagwagon album that can compare the "Big Choice" or "Don't Turn Away"....

Hell, the S/T is better than most Lagwagon stuff.

100% agreed.

sickboi (February 9, 2005)

Tell me ONE Lagwagon album that can compare the "Big Choice" or "Don't Turn Away"....

Hell, the S/T is better than most Lagwagon stuff.

Every Lagwagon album has 3 or 4 incredible songs, but not even "Hoss" is a good listen start to end without any filler.

Crookedsuperhero (February 9, 2005)

Lagwagon over Face to Face anyday. Period.

Wrong way round.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Face to Face kicks the shit out of Laggywaggy

corpseofmymotivation (February 9, 2005)

Lagwagon over Face to Face anyday. Period.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

no, lagwagon was not, is not and never will be better than face to face.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Hey, I was at the shows. I know no one asked, but some of the songs I can remember that were played, but did not make the album were "Mr. Coffee" (although they have the live footage of it), "Brown Eyed Girl," "27," "Today," "E Dagger," "Dancing the Collapse," and "I Must Be Hateful."

I wonder why it took so long to get the album out...

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

haha i got the limp reference, nice. What ever happened to limp? Cause pop and disorderly, guitarded, and that fine girl ep were so good. And personally i'm gonna have to say that if your looking at their entire careers as track records lagwagon is better than face to face.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

An insult from an idiot... how irrelevant.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

And your mom's tits sag.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

NUFAN - music for the tone deaf.

Incidentally, this isn't flamebait - ask anyone with experience and they'll tell you that the singing is almost always off-key.

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 9, 2005)

"more betterness is better than blaze, i'll say that. hard rock bottom is not."

I think they're both even. They were both awesome albums. As far as Blaze goes, does anyone think it was some kind of unofficial follow-up to Hoss with the whole horse theme or whatever?

sickboi (February 9, 2005)

Cape is a better songwritter than Keith, I'll give him that, but overall, Face to Face's music (arrangements, etc) was better.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

"Paul---

Tell me you're making a Limp reference...."

well done!

-paul

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

the songs on hard rock bottom that are good, are amazing, but theres like 4 or 5 songs on it i skip (insecurity alert is really trite, angela is kinda lame, the duet cover thingy is lame)

blaze, although having a few duds, was stronger overall. more depth, longer length, more involved riffs and song arrangements than nufan.

more betterness is better than blaze, i'll say that. hard rock bottom is not.

paul

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

"Lagwagon couldnt carry Face To Face's amps. "

Chris Flippin could probably carry not only f2f's amps, but trevor keith himself, by himself.

by the way your comment was retarded.

paul

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

This record makes me wanna fuck.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

Not the best Live In A Dive album in the series (still a toss-up between Sick Of It All and Subhumans) but arguably the most fun. I remember Joey Cape doing his nifty exercise moves out on the stage. Also, Dave Raun plays excellent in this recording. It's sad they didn't include "Mr. Coffee" (the live performance of the song is in the enhanced portion of the CD though) or "One Thing To Live" but still is a great tracklist that shouldn't disappoint any Lag fan.

Ramo
(They are still a metal band...)

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

I think this guy can't sing worth a shit. His voice is like a dentist's drill in my freakin' ear.

Anonymous (February 9, 2005)

I L♥VE TO HAVE FUN& PRTY!! {{-¼Of TheSCH
--->ne grass in my teeth??ha kyle =D
(P.S thäts NôT mý ®eal age;)
EvErY gUrL lOvEs 2ShOp!
I made u my priority, u made me ur option:(
#$%&Curly Haired Cuite&%$#

potshotrocker (February 9, 2005)

lagwagon rules a lot

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Wow. I just got it and listened to the whole thing. Amazing.

notfeelingcreative (February 8, 2005)

"Fuck everyone dissing NUFAN. Hard Rock Bottom was a lot faster than Blaze. "

Yeah, I though "Hard Rock Bottom" was a decent record, I like "Leche Con Carne" alot better but "Hard Rock Bottom" has some good tracks! I've never been a big lagwagon fan. I dug "Hoss" but I hated 'Double Plaidnum" and "Let's talk about feelings" I haven't bought a lagwagon record since.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Lagwagon couldnt carry Face To Face's amps.

Face To Face was the best melodic punk band live or on record and they proved it on Face To Face Live.

end of discussion.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Fuck everyone dissing NUFAN. Hard Rock Bottom was a lot faster than Blaze.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"And I think that this is the best live in a dive yet, altghough I really liked the swingin utters one even though it seemed to go fairly unnoticed."
I thought the Swingin' Utters' was excellent, except I would have liked to hear their cover of "Where Are They Now" by Cocksparrer.

- I dont remember hearing them cover that song,
They do cover " I Got Your Number" ... awesome song

siropsycho (February 8, 2005)

i've only heard the mp3 of fat wreck's site but i've listened to it a hundred times...too poor to buy this cd

anyway, Blaze was somewhat surprisingly awesome...i mean Let's Talk About Feelings was catchy but lacking other than a few songs....i thought Lagwagon was going to keep getting poppier and more generic sounding like NUFAN (whatever happened to the band that made 'Making Friends' anyway?)

mjg (February 8, 2005)

the neighbours have been stoked

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Lagwagon is fucking awful.

--ELIAS

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

as for swingin utters I just wish they would have played stupid lullubies, cause that song is so damn good.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Paul---

Tell me you're making a Limp reference....

Crookedsuperhero (February 8, 2005)

lagwagon > no use for a name.

Really??

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

To the person waaaaaaaaaaay down.....no i'm not an indy/art-core prick, but whenever I normally champion Fat Wreck people slate me. But I love the punk rock, worry ye not.

Joe

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 8, 2005)

Sorry to stray from the subject, but does anyone know if Good Riddance is ever going to do anything again? Only Crime's not bad, but I'd much rather have Russ spending more time with Good Riddance.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

lagwagon > no use for a name.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I like the new album of UL..

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"I don't think it takes a review to tell that the new Unwritten Law totally sucks."

Haha, BURN.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

This album absolutely rips. Best live disc I own.

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

Man, Paul, we're one in the same. Remember when it was just music, and you could....gasp....go to a show and laugh and smile without worrying about and image?

Good fucking times.

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 8, 2005)

"i got you beat...my cover of apathy and exhaustion says "thanks for the weed-neil" and "thanks for the floor space-brenden"

You win. That's pretty awesome.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

After "Trashed" Lagwagon got more and more generic, and more and more like NUFAN. I can totally understand why kids who like Rufio wouldn't listen to Lagwagon... just like I can understand why kids who listen to whatever's next won't know Rufio. Because they're second rate bands riding on the coattails of much better bands.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

oh and i wasn't saying there was anything wrong w/ ska, just that it ruled the scene at the time. believe me, i have 2 pages in my concert scrapbook dedicated to ska, highlights include

2 pietasters setlists
1 hepcat setlist
an autographed buck0nine sticker (lol)
big daddy multitude album cover (mustard plug) autographed
a 'moon ska' sticker (lol)
i forget the rest, wish i had it here. i guess my stub for ska agaisnt racism is pretty classic. less than jake, mustard plug, the toasters, mu330 all on one bill.

and i did listen to skate punk too. i got into the swingin utters (not that they're skate punk) via a bosstones show i saw them open at, and I listened to pennywise/nofx around the same time i was playing the shit out of MMBT and RBF.

if only i was 18 againnnnnnnnnnn (anyone who catches this reference rules)

paul

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"Paul - Too bad you can't see me, because you'd probably tack on an extra 100 points for the Lawrence Arms sweatshirt I'm wearing right now, hahahaha."

i got you beat...my cover of apathy and exhaustion says "thanks for the weed-neil" and "thanks for the floor space-brenden"

but yea i need some lawrence arms apparel, i have none

paul

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I could skank like a madman. pickitup pickitup!

paul

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

Ska made young white kidsthink they could dance.

istapledmyfoot (February 8, 2005)

"when i was 16, ska ruled the scene. picture it. "

Ska, is forever awesome. And anyway, I feel like ska fans and 90's melodic hardcore/skate punk fans should embrace each other, not fight. Are we really so different?

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

I had to sit through Rufio and Yellowcard a couple years ago just to see Lagwagon at the Metro in Chicago. All the little kids were going nuts for those two shitty bands and the quote that I heard from this kid was awful....."Who the hell is Lagwagon and why would they headline over Rufio?" Kids don't even listen to Lagwagon anymore, what a sad sad world.

corpseofmymotivation (February 8, 2005)

"And I think that this is the best live in a dive yet, altghough I really liked the swingin utters one even though it seemed to go fairly unnoticed."
I thought the Swingin' Utters' was excellent, except I would have liked to hear their cover of "Where Are They Now" by Cocksparrer.

corpseofmymotivation (February 8, 2005)

I don't think it takes a review to tell that the new Unwritten Law totally sucks.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Where is the new Unwritten Law review?

corpseofmymotivation (February 8, 2005)

Paul - Too bad you can't see me, because you'd probably tack on an extra 100 points for the Lawrence Arms sweatshirt I'm wearing right now, hahahaha.

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

theres nothing wrong with ska! And I think that this is the best live in a dive yet, altghough I really liked the swingin utters one even though it seemed to go fairly unnoticed.

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

"when i was 16, ska ruled the scene. picture it. "

Wow, way to give me flashbacks of my senior year of high school. It's skinny ties and buttons all over again.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

corpseofmymotivations...

you get A. 100 scene points for agreeing with me

B. 100 scene points for listening to the lawrence arms

C.100 points for being a smart 16 year old. based on your comments over the past year or so, i never would have guessed. when i was 16, ska ruled the scene. picture it.

D.add 100 more bonus points if you drink

you are the most scene dude here, congrats!

(ps. just fucking around w/ the scene points thing, props nonetheless)

paul

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"joey cape is the man. bad astronaut is a fucking work of art."

yes and yes

paul

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"PS I love Fat Wreck. There, I said it..."

being that the lawrence arms, dillenger 4, rise against, mad caddies, against me! are all on fat, I don't think that statement is anything to be embarassed about, unless your some indy art fuck or emo/fashioncore kid who's embarassed to listen to 'that old punk rock stuff' that just lacks the fasion of today's popular bands.

paul

sickboi (February 8, 2005)

You kids must drink drain-o or something, the SOIA is EASILY the best Live in a Dive.

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 8, 2005)

Man, I really can't wait till this comes in the mail. I'm so fucking psyched for this. It'll be hard to top Strung Out's though.

Here are my ratings of the LIADS I own (I love all the bands, but some were weaker than others):

Strung Out - 8.5
Swingin' Utters - 7
No Use for a Name - 6
Bracket - 6

XmeepX (February 8, 2005)

I'm torn on listening to this cd. I personally like lagwagon alot and think all of their albums are great, and this live cd sounds great. But the first thing I noticed was that it does sound perfect, and was wondering if it was even necessary. I personally like the slopiness, craziness, and just all around randomness of a live show, because I think it's supposed to be a totally different experience than the album. But the more I listened to it I noticed changes, although subtle, and joey says many a funny things. I think more than anything this is just nice to have as a greatest hits of lagwagon (although I agree, why no bye for now?). In conclusion though, I like it, alot.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

This is a hell of a band with a hell of a lot of talent. Great lyrics, great melodies, funny guys.

Joe

PS I love Fat Wreck. There, I said it...

inagreendase (February 8, 2005)

ps. do the kids even know who these guys are? i'm 24, i'm wondering if anyone under 21 listens to lagwagon anymore.

I guess you're forgetting about "May 16th" appearing on the first Tony Hawk game...

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

joey cape is the man. bad astronaut is a fucking work of art.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

it's ironic that people talk about how old Lagwagon is when Bad Religion still out there playing. And what about ALL/Descendents? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

First four albums in the best 30 albums of all time? Shwhat?

Don't get me wrong, Lagwagon is a fun listen, but saying "Duh" can even find the 30 best albums gala is more absurd than the Epitaph Tour.

-duped

CorpseOfMyMotivation (February 8, 2005)

Lagwagon rules. yes they are underrated. yes, joey cape is an overlooked genious that too often gets lumped in w/ 'mindless skate punk pennywise, dude brah bands' but their is a hell of a lot more depth and variety to the wagon than most skate punk bands, especially lyrically, but musically they do some impressive shit in their later releases. and of course, joey's voice is one of the most endearing in punk.

their live show is amazing, both times i saw them were excellent shows.

Hoss-10
blaze-9
double plaid-8.5
feelings-7.5
trashed-7
duh-6

live show-10

-----------------------------------------------------

Agreed in full.
------------------------------------------------------

ps. do the kids even know who these guys are? i'm 24, i'm wondering if anyone under 21 listens to lagwagon anymore.
-------------------------------------------------------
Yep. I'm only 16, but I first heard Lagwagon when I was 10 or 11. They're still one of my favorite bands of all time. Hoss changed my life.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Lagwagon rules. yes they are underrated. yes, joey cape is an overlooked genious that too often gets lumped in w/ 'mindless skate punk pennywise, dude brah bands' but their is a hell of a lot more depth and variety to the wagon than most skate punk bands, especially lyrically, but musically they do some impressive shit in their later releases. and of course, joey's voice is one of the most endearing in punk.

their live show is amazing, both times i saw them were excellent shows.

Hoss-10
blaze-9
double plaid-8.5
feelings-7.5
trashed-7
duh-6

live show-10

paul

ps. do the kids even know who these guys are? i'm 24, i'm wondering if anyone under 21 listens to lagwagon anymore.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"do these guys get up on stage with crutches and walkers....oooollllldddd... "

actually...yea kinda. joey is 37 now, i think its safe to say thats kinda old for being in a punk band. that said, lagwagon fucking rule, and a substantial amount of their good shit was written post-30. (double plaid-present)

paul

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

"Trashed, Hoss, and Double Plaidinum were the only albums that ever really stuck with me. This is fantastic too.'

uhhh...so you like 3 of their albums...thats a sign of a pretty good band. shit, most bands have one or two good records tops. i dont' know this comment just sounded funny to me. like 'i hate hoss, except tracks 1-8, 11, 12, 14. ' or something

paul

Punkinohio (February 8, 2005)

I think i could have come up with that review.... Not as good as Strung Out's, but then again.. what is?

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

An 8? Are you kidding? This is a band with ONE good record (Trashed)!

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

What are the new songs like?

xmidipunkbastardx (February 8, 2005)

score's for ugly duckling

ElVaquero (February 8, 2005)

Trashed, Hoss, and Double Plaidinum were the only albums that ever really stuck with me. This is fantastic too.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Is it just me, or is Joey Cape a sexy beast?

thirtyseconds (February 8, 2005)

Not only is Let's Talk About Feelings Lag's best album, it is, by a country mile, the best album of all time. Why anyone could ever prefer Double Plaidinum to that is beyond me.

8dollarclarinetsolo (February 8, 2005)

i tried to pick this up at tower at midnight but they didnt get it. fucks. but i bought ugly duckling and immortal technique instead, so its cool. ill get this eventually, track list looks good, plus they play burn!

Cos (February 8, 2005)

"Can I say this is the best live punk band ever? Yes, I can, since I have lost count on the number of shows I attended for Lagwagon."

Sweet Jesus man, you need to get out more. I lost count how many times I endured Lagwagon, mostly because I've tried to forget them. I only remember Joey leaning into the mic a lot and looking really short around his band. They mostly stood around and played pitch-perfect renditions of their songs. Why on earth they need a live album demonstrating this, and why they keep making identical-sounding albums with the spit-polish perfection of Ryan Greene, and WHY THE FUCK TO THEY NEED HIM FOR A LIVE ALBUM is completely, totally, and utterly beyond me.

Bored bored bored
--Cos

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

They should have called this "Live at Motor Studios."
No wonder it sounds so good.

stevejonestherealbones (February 8, 2005)

do these guys get up on stage with crutches and walkers....oooollllldddd...

naw..i'm just kidding, these guys are all right.

that lead singer is like 5 feet tall. freek show especially next to the 8 foot tall basist or guitarist or whatever they got.

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

hubitcherkokov (February 8, 2005)

Wasn't this recorded in spring of '04 or am I way off? I wish they would have included their cover of "Want" and a few more songs off of "Blaze." Otherwise, the tracklisting looks badass. Can't wait to hear it!

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

This is the 2nd best Live in a Dive, with the No Use one coming before. i listen to the No Use more then there albums.

Matt

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

This is a great live album. The tracklisting is awesome, the vocals and guitar solos are the bomb, it doesnt get much better than this.

Thas how i conduc it.

Mad Harris

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

Clearly the most underrated band in history, excluding the mesozoic era of course.

colin (February 8, 2005)

never seen lagwagon live, but this album makes me want to. really well done live disc.

the review, on the other hand, is quite lacking.

Anonymous (February 8, 2005)

not bad

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