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Published on May 10th 2005
Have you ever been in one of those all-night fights with someone? A parent, a significant other, a friend, anyone: the kind that start off as a small spat, almost good-natured, even, before someone steps on someone else's toes too hard, and then it just turns into all-out war? Then, after what feels like years later, the verbal battle finally dissolves into a solid 45-minute apology session?
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score is for the song 'peace'. seriously one of the best they've done. i like some of there songs. the others are good but some are just plain out fucking stupid in my oppion just download the good songs don't buy the cd HARVARD huh? Well, it doesn't show in the lyrics. Weezer is not good, THEY ARE NOT GOOD!!!! What is wrong with you people? Fuck those yuppie pieces of shit shit shit. weezer sucks dick, WOW they are terrible WOW! this record sucks so much fucking dick that i can't get an erection any more. this review blows and by extension so does this site, 'punknews.org', reviewing weezer's latest shitty album. ha! very punk. "And no matter how you rank the band's albums, if you give Pinkerton an A and the Green Album a D, it doesn't matter, because you still need to own all of them, if only to be a part of one of the most bizarre stories in rock history. From a critical standpoint, it's worthless to judge this record based on the band's previous efforts, as each one has been drastically different from each other. And while I may personally believe that Maladroit and the Green Album are the low points of the band's career, I still gave both of them a 7, as in my mind, 7 or above means, "You should buy this record." You should have bought those records, and you should buy this one, as well." The only thing that got me all the way through this album was the fact that it was Weezer. And by the end, I realized that this is not Weezer at all. Not the Weezer I loved so long ago. This is the third in a series of impersonal, not memorable Weezer albums. Great Album. Haunt you Everyday just made it for me. I really hope that this isnt their last. But if it is, it was one hell of a ride. Not a bad album. Weezer can still bring the punk/pop/emo sound that they were made famous for in the past 10 or more years. I know that Rivers kinda went crazy there but I have to hand it to them, ths was a good album. Beverly Hills isn't a great song, but I think that Perfect Situation and Hold Me are 2 of Weezer's best songs to date. I will never forgive weezer for continually making more albums. Nothing will ever top Pinkerton. But on it's own I like this album a lot. I think some of the more cult-like fans are getting a little snarky on this one. oh god. weezer are still living in the 90's, and not even writing good enough music to keep them there. this album so disposable, it deserves to be strapped to a babies bottom. i can guarentee all of you that you will get sick of this within a month or two, unless your usual diet is britney and her evil cohorts. do yourself a favour, buy another copy of pinkerton, and bask in the glory days of weezer. even better, buy an arcade fire CD instead. im sorry, but for that idiot that said- Hey, I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, but I just got this and noticed something: "This site sucks weezer is the best band and the reason why there are good bands today, not the gay Ramones or Sex pistols those bands sucked ass and just look at this site everything sucks thats on here besides Weez you guys have a damn Alkaline Trio advertisment" To Scott: This site sucks weezer is the best band and the reason why there are good bands today, not the gay Ramones or Sex pistols those bands sucked ass and just look at this site everything sucks thats on here besides Weez you guys have a damn Alkaline Trio advertisment oh and as Scott said, the guitar tone is great on the record, the recording quality is very much weezer and sounds great. my friend chris even made note of the guitar tone when we discussed the album the other day. upon further listening this isn't as awful as i first thought. weezer should have quit when matt sharp quit. yeah, you COULD be a drummer and a drum tech, but I doubt it... Point Two: being a drum tech for Weezer before their comeback album hit big probably wasn't a high-paying job. " Could you picture the guitarist from Tsunami Bomb being the guitar tech for Good Charlotte?" this is quite possibly the best review I've ever read on this website. kudos. "I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something?' im don't understand some of you people. like pitchfork for instance, saying "this is such a pity" is the only decent song on here. that is by far the worst weezer song ever written. and i am including all of green and maldriot and any and all b-sides/sountracks songs/rarities/demos i have heard, and that's a shitload of songs. i give this album a 6 mostly for two great tracks "perfect situation" and "freak me out" yeah, you COULD be a drummer and a drum tech, but I doubt it. Could you picture the guitarist from Tsunami Bomb being the guitar tech for Good Charlotte? No, that would be kinda ridiculous. Point Two: being a drum tech for Weezer before their comeback album hit big probably wasn't a high-paying job. "how in the world is weezer trying new things on this album?" Meh. I don't really care about this band, I'll listen to a song or two every now and then but that's it. It's funny how all the fanyboys are going insane over the single, though. It's pretty characteristic for this band, all of you just don't like the lyrics so you make up all kinds of crap about the single not belonging on the albums. It does. you can be a drummer atom's a drummer, not a drum tech. That doesn't make any sense atom was pat's drum tech. he didn't play the drums on the green album. I love the internet. I have a penis. haha. you people are so ignorant. just because you don't like doesn't mean that you all of a sudden have the authority to say that nobody can like it. there are plenty of people out there who obviously do like this album. that doesn't mean they have poor music tastes, even by your standards. people from all sorts of music interest backgrounds like it. score is for the lame-o's who think that they have the best music tastes of everybody. good for you guys, way to discredit yourselves. you don't have to like it, but other people should be allowed to. Does anyone know if Pat played drums on this album or if, like the Green Album, someone like Atom Willard did it instead? (check the notes of your albums: Atom is listed as "Drum God", he's the drummer from Rocket From The Crypt, and why else would he be listed?) Regarding the Matt Sharp debate below: I am not sure what impact he did or did not have on the first two Weezer albums, but anyone in a band can tell you that even if a member is not actually writing the lyrics or music, their presence and taste can effect the chemistry. "2) Matt Sharp was the real mastermind behind the Blue Album and Pinkerton. If you're expecting this cd to be as good as those, you are very much mistaken. Because without him, Weezer is just not the same. And now is as good a time as any to make peace with that." Curious George: "To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics?" I don't understand those of you who like "This Is Such A Pity." That fuckin' song is like a sleeping pill and DESTROYS the flow of the entire record. well i love weezer and i love this album too. good work boys!! weezer are the best band EVER!! "I like the cd. It's pretty good... it will probably start growing on me. I don't get why all you whiny bitches are all upset. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to listen to it. Bunch of morons. ah fuck me in the ass, i actually like this. "The reviewer needs to die in a horrible car accident" I like the cd. It's pretty good... it will probably start growing on me. I don't get why all you whiny bitches are all upset. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to listen to it. Bunch of morons. "To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics?" The reviewer needs to die in a horrible car accident. Fucking review sucks. What is it with people endlessly comparing it to Blue or Pnkerton? Get a fucking grip, people. To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics? Weezer's best for sure since the glory daze of the blue album and pinkerton. I cant put my finger on it but it has some of that weezer magic that the last 2 albums were lacking. Has gotten better every time I have listened to it. while this is definitely the most garbage of all the weezer landfills, this review was really well-written and made me want to listen to it again. good job, scott. "[W]hile it may not be weezer's best, it's still way above what everyone else is doing." Not a fan of Weezer, cos they write some dreadfully mediocre music over the years, intersprersed with the occassional gem From the "Hash Pipe" to the crack pipe. Goddamn this album sucks! while this obviously wasn't the weezer of yesteryear, I still think that this album is very refreshing compared to all the other monotonous crap that is being released these days. i really do enjoy listening to this album because while it may not be weezer's best, it's still way above what everyone else is doing. LIke someone else said, no wonder Rivers hates his "fans." It would not be hard not to considering they are a bunch of whiny, know-it-all bitches. Give me a break Scott, fucking the band you hate with all your passion (Bracket) write better pop songs then the last three weezer disastors. You are simply wrong when you say that this is a "must-own" album, along with saying the last two were as well. You have a love for bad pop (Green Day/Weezer) that used to be good. Granted Green Day is still desc, but give me a break. This shit sucks. Have you seen the video for Beverly Hills? Read the Rolling Stone article on Rivers and tell me you don't want to punch that pompous freak in the face and burn all your Weezer cd's, despite how good the first two were.... Rivers sucks, Weezer sucks. if youre not at least pleased with "this is such a pity" then nothing was going to make you happy I bought this yesterday. It's not doing anything for me. This is the first weezer album that i can honestly say i don't like. Nothing on here appeals to me. It's totally bunk. this is a good cd. i dig it and expect to listen to it often. I think the lawsuit was dropped and they worked things out outside the courtroom. what ever happened to the lawsuit in which sharp said he wrote alot of the songs and wanted royalties or something like that? Just to clear a few things up: "Didn't this band just break up, like on the release date? They have a couple alright songs, but River go back to college yo, this ain't gonna be payin' the bills forever son." Didn't this band just break up, like on the release date? They have a couple alright songs, but River go back to college yo, this ain't gonna be payin' the bills forever son. damn...on that last post, i didnt mean "with or without", i meant "this track list or maybe without one more, your choice" Perfect Situation in this sea of bashing and praise for the new record one thing has escaped us all: how god awful the cover art is. "What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't. the dwarves rule. hey anyone got mp3s of NOFX's 7 inch of april? "I am a huge fan of bad religion" is a cool song title. "What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't. "I like to make believe Jones stopped posting his nonsense" I like to make believe Jones stopped posting his nonsense from the fuckin faq: Is anyone going to review the new Heaher hates you? Pitchfork gave it a 0.4. I agree with them. "I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something?" I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something? What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't. pitchfork likes bloc party. "Oh, and of course pitchfork hates the cd. They hate every cd, it seems." if i was a homophobe, why would i suck cock for a living? "call me a homo pussy licking contradictory faggot" call me a homo pussy licking contradictory faggot, but every time i listen to My Best Friend, i cant help but smile, sing along and imagine i had a best....er...think of my best friend Hilarious people can't stop comparing this to Pinkerton or their previous albums. Review THIS record, not their back catalog. It's amazing how fucking stupid people are. Review is garbage, album is pretty good. "Oh, and of course pitchfork hates the cd. They hate every cd, it seems." Even if this album is not good, which I havent listened to yet. Please show some respect for a cool band. I'm back bitches! Feel my wrath! I wouldnt give this album that high of a review but a really well written review and i enjoyed reading it! Better than I thought it'd be. Some of the songs ARE pretty embarassing but the majority of the album's pretty solid. I'm not a huge Weezer fan, but I feel like forcing myself to like this album if only because Pitchfork's review was so damn boring. Good grammar doesn't mean anything unless you use it to say something interesting. I would say this album was really disappointing except after hearing "We Are All On Drugs" a week or so ago I wasn't expecting much. Some enjoyable tracks but for the most part.. not good. A ton of scrapped demos and 3 years and this is the best they come up with? Ridiculous. I don't like this album and I actually thought the green album and maladroit were pretty good. I almost wonder if this album is just a big joke by Rivers. He's crazy enough to do that. "Make Believe" is a pretty good album. Much better than the Green album or Maladroit. My old bass player was obsessed with Weezer. It was all he talked about, ever. He wrote Weezer-esque riffs, he worshipped Rivers as a genius, he snapped up anything that had even a little bit to do with them....he bought The Green album and Maladroit both on the days they were released, and ACTUALLY FORCED HIMSELF TO LOVE THEM. The review doesn't even touch on the only truly great song on this album, "This Is Such A Pity." It's the only song that sounds like it's even trying to do something different. They did the "greatest band in the world" a horrible injustice by naming this album Make Believe. maybe this weezer cd is finally then end of the 90's !!!!!! Rivers needs more sex. Maybe that could help these awful lyrics. Worst album by Weezer definitely, even Maladroit had a couple good ones. The only one I liked was Haunt you Every day. this is for the sucker that is buying the "spoon" cd instead..... SPOON SUCKS and you are a child with no taste if you do that! pinkerton and the blue album are great imo, and it makes me wonder why they've written such utterly crappy music since. oh well, I'll always have the first two to enjoy. everything else has been a major flop. how in the world is weezer trying new things on this album? As a big weezer fan since the release of there first, and best album, I was very excited to see what 'Make Believe' would hold. While I am not blown away, I am also not disapointed. Make Believe...your band ever actually mattered. yeah, i have to agree with pitchfork on this one Once again the elitism of this site strikes down a good album. I agree with the review. Everyone else here is too cool anymore to like something like this I can't imagine safe happy pop music caused so much suffering and wrath that a reviewer had to go on a 300 word diatribe and unleash a 0.4. Pitchfork are a bunch of clowns aka music nerd Journalism majors who couldn't find a real job. "read the Rolling Stone article and you'll see why this is likely to be their last album. The band doesn't even consider themselves friends; they prefer the term "aquaintances". Rivers has only promised to support this album until the end of this year. and their producer said they are the most dysfunction band he has ever worked with." I finally got a chance to hear the record (despite the fact that it's been online since 1997 as far as I know) and while there are some decent songs, Rivers has upped the cheese factor to the point of being cringe-worthy. Some of those solos are just awful and I can't even figure out why they need to be in the songs. To put it in perspective, I just bought Make Believe today and I'm listening to The New What Next instead. " (I hear the Alternative Press one is a definite page-turner)" A couple of quick things. I do read Pitchforks reviews at least to get an idea about things, however Pitchfork is nothing if not two things: "That's one of the stupidest things I ever read. If having sex with your mom is in any way similar to listening to maladroit, your mom is really hot," "what were the other ones, farting on mic's?" i definately think this is weezer's last album. After how long it took them to get THIS piece of shit together, another one just seems impossible. That and Rivers is like 35 or something now, why keep going? he's old and wants to study at harvard and be a fuckin weirdo, so let him. the album is such an improvement on Green & Maladroit. total crap. Why? Why would this band make this album? I agree with the pitchfork review 100%, this album makes me sick. That said, I still love the Blue Album. When you're runnin' from the police and you feel that anal grease, diarrhea, plop plop, diarrhea "Was Rivers Cuomo always on the notebook-scrawl level of "I don't feel the joy/ I don't feel the pain," and did we not notice because scrawling in notebooks was the depth of our emotional knowledge at the time?" i don't see any signs that this is weezer's last album. not sure where you got that from. i like it a lot. 0.4/10 by Pitchfork. LMAO. NEW KEVIN DEVINE?! score is for matt sharp. and the new kevin devine cd. evolving and a different sound every album? seriously? after pinkerton everything has sounded like the same (aka shitty). i think that because they hold a special place in your heart (awww....but yea, i know their early stuff does in mine) you cut them a stuuuupid amount of slack. I compare this band a lot to Saves The Day in the way their sound never really stays the same. Now this isn't necessarily for the better or worse, but at least they don't make the same album year after year. "That's one of the stupidest things I ever read. If having sex with your mom is in any way similar to listening to maladroit, your mom is really hot, you have no moral misgivings of putting your dick in the hole you came out of, and you were never enlightened to the pitfalls and perils of incest. Or you're just a moron." heres how i feel about this album, coming from a long term weezer fan who even liked the Green album....its complete shit. maybe 3 decent-good songs, 3 that are truly unlistenable and the other 6 fall somewhere in between. completely forgettable, and a huge letdown considering the amount of time (3 years) and supposed effort that went into this (hundreds of songs written for it? and these are what make the cut? what were the other ones, farting on mic's?) Score is for complete lack of punk record reviews this week. "better than maladroit at least, but that's like saying having sex with my mom was better than being raped by my grandfather" i'm buying the new spoon album today instead Blue Album was one of my first cds I ever purchased years and years ago, and I still love that disc. But as it was stated in the review, Weezer never stays the same (and that's probably a good thing for a band like them). And they have "evolved" into something that makes me yawn while listening. I think Scott is right, it's time for Weezer to end it. This one just doesnt cut it. There's no edge. The lyrics are horrible (not that Rivers wrote any mind-blowing lyrics ever anyways, but worse than usual). That being said. It's just dull. "better than maladroit at least, but that's like saying having sex with my mom was better than being raped by my grandfather." this album is so bad. i listened to maladroit and the green album today for the first time in a year and it was like a breath of fresh air compared to this long, drawn out mess. it made me like those albums for the first time ever we are all on drugs is probably the worst song weezer has ever written,ever. Oh yeah Pitchfork is totally wrong about Weezer. They said in one of their reviews that Alkaline Trio sounds like Less Than Jake without horns. They lost all credibility in my book after reading that. Pitchfork = musical idiots. Maybe if they took the time to listen CDs they could make better reviews. I think this CD is pretty good. You have to give it time though because you probably won't like it at first. Does anyone else find the openeing to the 2nd song on this to be very simililar to the opening to a song on their third CD? I hate you. i agree with the kid who said matt sharp made the first two so great. no way, jonesy. i noticed the similarities to the diarrhea rhymes last thursday when they streamed the album on myspace. pitchfork stole that shit from me. i really wish i could say this is the worst shit weezer has ever produced Weezer sucks a bag of dicks. PURE SHIT. If you like them, FUCK YOU. I often question why I continue looking at this site: a site for twerps and choads. Not so good. Pitchfork's review is harsh, but accurate. New Weezer The Rentals = Old Weezer. Score is for The Rentals. i agree w/ the guy that said matt sharp missing has brought them down. it's similar to the feeling that i have about the bouncing souls since shal left. here's how you make this a good album: The Blue Album was one of the first CD's i ever bought, and i still listen to it very often. Pinkerton is great too, but everthing else....blah. Haven't given 2 shits about these guys since the Blue album. nice review. couldnt believe i was reading something coherent and intelligent for once in the review column. then it dawned on me that this guy works for AP. sidenote: if i was at the cover shoot for the new issue i might have been arrested for headbutting frank from MCR based purely on that horrendous eyeliner/makeup job. ...and since no one has mentioned this yet... and for something completely different: I think "Beverly Hills" sucks. I like the Blue, Green, and Pinkerton albums, but the band's gotten a little too smug for it's own goods. Rivers wrote better songs when he was constantly worried if people liked him or not. When he's confident, his themes are even more irrelevant and boring than they were before. They've never released a bad album though, so no one's wasting their money on this. Thumbs up for that. never liked this band.....nothing special someone needs to stop them before their past becomes just a faded memory. say it ain't so is my favorite song but goddamn this album is horribly homosexual in every way possible anal dog shit hiv positive bacon strips. I may be the only one, but I really enjoyed Meladroit, the only Weezer CD I have ever bought and listened to entirely. Make Believe is awesome. not as goo as Blue or Pinkerton, but it's still a really great album. to scott: This album is seriously garbage. Frankly, the blue album and pinkerton we're flukes. It's pretty clear that Rivers can't write anything worthwhile anymore. Your mag is fashioncore dog-crap. DAMNIT! Someone beat me to the diarrhea comparison to "We Are All On Drugs." Oh, and that actually was a good review, except for the A.P. plug. Second best album by Weezer. one of the best reviews i've ever read on punknews.org. Pitchfork's review of the new Ben Folds was pretty harsh as well. Sad. dont knoe the story behind maladroit, but how was it largely user created or whatever? how was the writing more about the fans? good review. as a huge 'blue album' and 'pinkerton' fan...well i think pitchfork (for once) describes this album best t:"the torpedoing of Weezer's legacy" Pitchfork gave this a 0.4...ouch! Pinkerton is my second favourite album of all time (behind Operation Ivy). When I saw the video for the first single for this cd I was in shock. Weezer is hands down one of the most overrated bands, and even the most vile shit they make will always be praised because they made the blue album and pinkerton--which are good, but throwaway, power pop. You're right, Scott, Weezer does have a remarkable fan base, but one that will forgive their every mistake because of a good album made ten years ago. i dont knoe the story behind maladroit, but how was it largely user created or whatever? how was the writing more about the fans? i heard the album. better than their last 2 but still lagging far behind their first 2. i'll make believ i like it...i'm so clever |
