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Weezer: Make BelieveMake Believe (2005)
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Have you ever been in one of those all-night fights with someone? A parent, a significant other, a friend, anyone: the kind that start off as a small spat, almost good-natured, even, before someone steps on someone else's toes too hard, and then it just turns into all-out war? Then, after what feels.
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Have you ever been in one of those all-night fights with someone? A parent, a significant other, a friend, anyone: the kind that start off as a small spat, almost good-natured, even, before someone steps on someone else's toes too hard, and then it just turns into all-out war? Then, after what feels like years later, the verbal battle finally dissolves into a solid 45-minute apology session?

That all-night fight has been Weezer's 13-year career in and out of the spotlight, and that 45-minute apology is Make Believe.

Few, if any bands, have a cult following as feverishly devoted as Weezer's. Name one other band from the past few decades who have properly released so little material (their five full-lengths totalling 55 songs), yet are so prolific, having an unreleased/unrecorded catalog numbering in the high hundreds. Weezer have no contemporaries, which is a large part of why their fanbase has stuck by them, through thick and thin -- there was no one else to turn to. But through that loyalty, fans developed a sense of entitlement, thus causing the rift between band and fans, best displayed on 2002's Maladroit, a largely fan input-created album that, while still spawning hits ("Dope Nose" and "Keep Fishin'"), was nowhere near as successful as either of the band's eponymous discs. One could almost imagine Rivers Cuomo sitting in the back of his tour bus that summer looking over SoundScan numbers, smugly thinking to himself, "I finally let these little bitches guide my career, and look where we ended up. Time to raise ticket prices."

With this divide set firmly in place, and with the band knowing that they could, in all honesty, do whatever they want and would still have fans stand by them, they began work on what was to become Make Believe. At the band's current pace, the disc was expected out in February 2003. But then, something happened: Cuomo realized the error of his recent ways. Now, this has been well-documented lately in many a cover story (I hear the Alternative Press one is a definite page-turner), so I won't go into ridiculous amounts of details here; but suffice it to say, he had a pretty significant change of heart. And what resulted is a 45-minute aural apology note.

It's easy to sing about stupid things, as Weezer have always proved. Opening track (and first single) "Beverly Hills" fits the mold of "a really stupid, fun Weezer singalong song." Yeah, Rivers sort of raps; yeah, the lyrics are really laughable; yeah, it's a gimmicky music video; yeah, it's the most common rock chord progression known to man. But it's still good, and you'll sing along, just like with any other of the groaners in the band's catalog. This is also evident on surefire second single "We Are All On Drugs," which will probably become better known as "Hash Pipe, Part Two." A sample of the lyrics: "When you're out with your friends in your new Mercedes Benz and you're on drugs / and you show up late for school 'cause you think you're really cool when you're on drugs." These couplets could be written (and probably have been written) by any public-school 7th grader; yet, with Cuomo's delivery (and guitarist Brian Bell and bassist Scott Shriner's perfectly-placed backing vocals), it somehow works.

Outside of these two songs, though, the rest of the album reeks of regret and a desire to rekindel any sort of fractured relationship you may have had with Cuomo. "Perfect Situation" is a total Blue Album-worthy pop-rocker driven by bouncy piano, with Cuomo lamenting over love lost (what else is new, right?). "Pardon Me," with its powerful musical and lyrical crescendo ("I may not be a perfect soul / but I can learn self-control / so pardon me, pardon me, pardon me my friend") is one of a handful of truly goosebump-inducing moments on the album. "My Best Friend," originally slated for the opening theme of Shrek 2 before Cuomo pulled it at the last minute, is the fastest, perkiest track out of the dozen, and when the chorus of "You're my best friend / and I love you" hits, you honestly believe every syllable (the perfect backing vocals only emphasize the passion behind the words). The band also deliver a smashing closer in the angsty power-ballad "Haunt You Every Day." It's a strange way to end the album, but sometimes there's still some venom left in an apology.

Pretty much every song on the record has a specific moment, whether it be musical or lyrical, that can be singled out for its poignancy, if not its corniness (see: the soul-baring but clumsy confession of "Freak Me Out"). Of course, with apologies, not everything comes out the way you want it to sound, but it's all backed by raw honesty, if nothing else.

It's worth noting that the band really sound like themselves on this record, finally. The guitar tone is crunchy and distinctive; the solos are vintage Weezer (read: If you're a Blue Album/Pinkerton enthusiast, you'll be happy); the backing vocals sound fun and not forced; Rivers is finally writing and singing words he believes in, no matter how clichéd they might seem. You can hear the raw emotion in his voice as he is legitimately begging his fans, friends, family and band members (past and present) for forgiveness.

With all that said: no, Make Believe is not perfect. It's nowhere near perfect -- that is, if your idea of perfection is the band's first two efforts. And no matter how you rank the band's albums, if you give Pinkerton an A+ and the Green Album a D, it doesn't matter, because you still need to own all of them, if only to be a part of one of the most bizarre stories in rock history. From a critical standpoint, it's worthless to judge this record based on the band's previous efforts, as each one has been drastically different from each other. And while I may personally believe that Maladroit and the Green Album are the low points of the band's career, I still gave both of them a 7, as in my mind, 7 or above means, "You should buy this record." You should have bought those records, and you should buy this one, as well.

It's almost too perfect that Make Believe comes out 11 years to the day after the Blue Album. This disc is almost surely Weezer's last, because honestly, after one of these marathon apology sessions, once everything is out in the open, the relationship in question typically wraps itself up, simply because there is nowhere else to go. So, thus concludes one of the longest, most bizarre fights ever documented. It got ugly, and there were times when we all thought it couldn't get any better; but we all pulled through, with our battle scars (and import CD singles) to show for it. Thanks for everything, Weezer. We had some good times together. Apology accepted.

 

 
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ZachLeg (September 12, 2010)

lol u wrong. dey put out 3 albums more since that lol

GuyPaterson (August 28, 2009)

Personally, I think this is Weezer's weakest studio album. With the exceptions of "Haunt You Everyday" and "This is Such a Pity" there aren't many stand out tracks and "We Are All on Drugs" is quite possibly the worst song Weezer has ever released. They would, however, redeem themselves with their Red Album.

pinkerton (April 16, 2007)

score is for the song 'peace'. seriously one of the best they've done.

sk8rchic (February 1, 2006)

i like some of there songs. the others are good but some are just plain out fucking stupid in my oppion just download the good songs don't buy the cd

Anonymous (November 17, 2005)

HARVARD huh? Well, it doesn't show in the lyrics. Weezer is not good, THEY ARE NOT GOOD!!!! What is wrong with you people? Fuck those yuppie pieces of shit shit shit.

Anonymous (November 17, 2005)

weezer sucks dick, WOW they are terrible WOW!

Anonymous (November 16, 2005)

this record sucks so much fucking dick that i can't get an erection any more. this review blows and by extension so does this site, 'punknews.org', reviewing weezer's latest shitty album. ha! very punk.
weezer are a terrible excuse for a shadow of the band they were in the mid nineties. one of the biggest dissappointments in rock music history. if you actually like this shit then you need to get your god damned ears checked. stop giving this band money to produce bullshit garbage like this. just stop paying attention to them.

benz (July 14, 2005)

"And no matter how you rank the band's albums, if you give Pinkerton an A and the Green Album a D, it doesn't matter, because you still need to own all of them, if only to be a part of one of the most bizarre stories in rock history. From a critical standpoint, it's worthless to judge this record based on the band's previous efforts, as each one has been drastically different from each other. And while I may personally believe that Maladroit and the Green Album are the low points of the band's career, I still gave both of them a 7, as in my mind, 7 or above means, "You should buy this record." You should have bought those records, and you should buy this one, as well."

Wait... what? Just because it's by an artist that used to be good is not a good reason to continue buying their records.

-benz

benz (July 14, 2005)

The only thing that got me all the way through this album was the fact that it was Weezer. And by the end, I realized that this is not Weezer at all. Not the Weezer I loved so long ago. This is the third in a series of impersonal, not memorable Weezer albums.

Rivers should either continue going batshit insane or do something solo. You know, something good.

-benz

Anonymous (July 13, 2005)

Great Album. Haunt you Everyday just made it for me. I really hope that this isnt their last. But if it is, it was one hell of a ride.

md40_07 (June 26, 2005)

Not a bad album. Weezer can still bring the punk/pop/emo sound that they were made famous for in the past 10 or more years. I know that Rivers kinda went crazy there but I have to hand it to them, ths was a good album. Beverly Hills isn't a great song, but I think that Perfect Situation and Hold Me are 2 of Weezer's best songs to date.

Anonymous (June 8, 2005)

I will never forgive weezer for continually making more albums.

Anonymous (May 29, 2005)

Nothing will ever top Pinkerton. But on it's own I like this album a lot. I think some of the more cult-like fans are getting a little snarky on this one.
No, it doesn't sound like any other weezer album. If it did, you'd all be complaining that it sounded too much like some other weezer album. Some people just can't be happy....

Anonymous (May 26, 2005)

oh god. weezer are still living in the 90's, and not even writing good enough music to keep them there. this album so disposable, it deserves to be strapped to a babies bottom. i can guarentee all of you that you will get sick of this within a month or two, unless your usual diet is britney and her evil cohorts. do yourself a favour, buy another copy of pinkerton, and bask in the glory days of weezer. even better, buy an arcade fire CD instead. im sorry, but for that idiot that said-
"[W]hile it may not be weezer's best, it's still way above what everyone else is doing."- unless your living in a small cardboard box, there are literally hundreds of artists who are doing MUCH better.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

Worst single ever.

greg0rb (May 16, 2005)

Hey, I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, but I just got this and noticed something:

They are standing in the same order as they were on the blue album, with scott in matt sharp's place. Do you think it is a coincidence that pat wilson took sharp's blue album pose (notice the hands), or that it's some sort of homage? Probably a coincidence, but they sure do like putting themselves on the cover of their albums...
-Greg

Anonymous (May 16, 2005)

"This site sucks weezer is the best band and the reason why there are good bands today, not the gay Ramones or Sex pistols those bands sucked ass and just look at this site everything sucks thats on here besides Weez you guys have a damn Alkaline Trio advertisment"

this is only funny if its serious

paul

Anonymous (May 16, 2005)

its freese not that i care

paul

Cos (May 16, 2005)

To Scott:

don't call me a moron, fan boy. I'd expect more from you. Don't get upset with me if Ric Ocasek wanted someone who could play drums competently. It happens all the time. Just ask Josh Freeze.

--Cos

Anonymous (May 16, 2005)

This site sucks weezer is the best band and the reason why there are good bands today, not the gay Ramones or Sex pistols those bands sucked ass and just look at this site everything sucks thats on here besides Weez you guys have a damn Alkaline Trio advertisment

Anonymous (May 16, 2005)

oh and as Scott said, the guitar tone is great on the record, the recording quality is very much weezer and sounds great. my friend chris even made note of the guitar tone when we discussed the album the other day.

paul

Anonymous (May 16, 2005)

upon further listening this isn't as awful as i first thought.

perfect situation
hold me
freak me out

are better than average to really good songs.

we are all on drugs
best friend
beverly hills

are inexcusably bad

the other 6 are somewhere in between, like that 22 jacks song ........anyone? yea i forgot about them too.

paul

Anonymous (May 15, 2005)

weezer should have quit when matt sharp quit.

maverick (May 15, 2005)

yeah, you COULD be a drummer and a drum tech, but I doubt it... Point Two: being a drum tech for Weezer before their comeback album hit big probably wasn't a high-paying job.

Point One: You're a moron.
Point Two: See above.

-Scott

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

I never liked this band.....next

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

" Could you picture the guitarist from Tsunami Bomb being the guitar tech for Good Charlotte?"

A guy from bigwig quit in 2001 to be a guitar-tech for sum 41....

fritobandito (May 14, 2005)

this is quite possibly the best review I've ever read on this website. kudos.

I'll probably end up checking this out.

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

"I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something?'
you are a complete idiot.

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

im don't understand some of you people. like pitchfork for instance, saying "this is such a pity" is the only decent song on here. that is by far the worst weezer song ever written. and i am including all of green and maldriot and any and all b-sides/sountracks songs/rarities/demos i have heard, and that's a shitload of songs. i give this album a 6 mostly for two great tracks "perfect situation" and "freak me out"

Anonymous (May 14, 2005)

fuck you scott, fuck you

Cos (May 13, 2005)

yeah, you COULD be a drummer and a drum tech, but I doubt it. Could you picture the guitarist from Tsunami Bomb being the guitar tech for Good Charlotte? No, that would be kinda ridiculous. Point Two: being a drum tech for Weezer before their comeback album hit big probably wasn't a high-paying job.

Atom's a drummer, a kickass one at that, which is why bands like The Offspring call him up to tour with them.

Anonymous (May 13, 2005)

pitchfork > *

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

"how in the world is weezer trying new things on this album?"

It's more of a hybrid of blue and pinkerton. It's old andifferent at the same time.

dazed (May 12, 2005)

Meh. I don't really care about this band, I'll listen to a song or two every now and then but that's it. It's funny how all the fanyboys are going insane over the single, though. It's pretty characteristic for this band, all of you just don't like the lyrics so you make up all kinds of crap about the single not belonging on the albums. It does.

LMChc (May 12, 2005)

you can be a drummer

and a drum tech too

it's not like there's not any sort of law against that.

Cos (May 12, 2005)

atom's a drummer, not a drum tech. That doesn't make any sense

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

atom was pat's drum tech. he didn't play the drums on the green album.

Anchors (May 12, 2005)

I love the internet.

iheartadam (May 12, 2005)

I have a penis.

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

haha. you people are so ignorant. just because you don't like doesn't mean that you all of a sudden have the authority to say that nobody can like it. there are plenty of people out there who obviously do like this album. that doesn't mean they have poor music tastes, even by your standards. people from all sorts of music interest backgrounds like it. score is for the lame-o's who think that they have the best music tastes of everybody. good for you guys, way to discredit yourselves. you don't have to like it, but other people should be allowed to.

Cos (May 12, 2005)

Does anyone know if Pat played drums on this album or if, like the Green Album, someone like Atom Willard did it instead? (check the notes of your albums: Atom is listed as "Drum God", he's the drummer from Rocket From The Crypt, and why else would he be listed?)

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

Regarding the Matt Sharp debate below: I am not sure what impact he did or did not have on the first two Weezer albums, but anyone in a band can tell you that even if a member is not actually writing the lyrics or music, their presence and taste can effect the chemistry.

For example...a singer songwriter can write hundreds of songs, but a member who doesn't write the songs can help that singer/songwriter choose the best ones, construct it in the right way, and arrange it in a way that makes it sound amazing. Sometimes people call those types of writers arrangers. So I am not saying this happened but Rivers could have written almost every note and lyric to Weezer songs, but others in the band could help arrange that song and how its delivered. Including even figuring out which of the hundreds of songs he writes should be used.

Its hard to say how much effect Matt Sharp had on Weezer. I think I remember hearing about there for a while he felt he had more impact on the writing and there was some threat of suing or suing happened. I am not sure but, if so that would kind of make some sense. If Matt Sharp was an "arranger" and assited the writing process in any way and didn't get credit for it...EVER....then that could have contributed to his departure...and the rift between the two guys that only recently seems to have healed.

Anyway...I still like this album. I am just making a point of what I have learned being in a bunch of bands myself and writing songs by myself and with others. Take it as you will. Personally I have loved every Weezer album so far in its own way.

SkolarX (May 12, 2005)

"2) Matt Sharp was the real mastermind behind the Blue Album and Pinkerton. If you're expecting this cd to be as good as those, you are very much mistaken. Because without him, Weezer is just not the same. And now is as good a time as any to make peace with that."

i've seen them with sharp playing bass and as of last thursday without sharp playing bass. he completely mad the first show i saw with them enjoyable. granted rivers had just had that surgery on his leg and couldn't move around but last week he still didn't move. none of them did really. this isn't saying that sharp isn't releasing crap these days as well (if his solo cd doesn't put you to sleep, something is wrong with you) here's to hoping that they try to do something together once weezer is finally laid to rest

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

Curious George: "To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics?"

Naive Ned: "No, the guy who said that is the usual shit-talking idiot that frequents this site. Go to AllMusic.com and look who has song credits for Blue and Pinkerton."

Me: I never said Rivers didn't write/compose the songs, just said Matt Sharp was the mastermind behind the first 2 albums. So you obviously interpreted me incorrectly. What I meant was Matt Sharp was one who gave those albums the "weezer magic". Listen to Blue & Pinkerton and then listen to The Rentals. That same Weezer feel is there. And that's exactly what's missing from Green, Maladroit, and this. Shit-talker? Nah, truth-teller. Open your eyes and ears and decide for yourself. If you want to believe Rivers did it all, that's your prerogative, but he hasn't been too successful since losing Sharp from the band.

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

I don't understand those of you who like "This Is Such A Pity." That fuckin' song is like a sleeping pill and DESTROYS the flow of the entire record.

It is the worst song they have ever attempted to pull off, imo. I don't mind "Perfect Situation" and "We Are All On Drugs," but the others are weak.

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

well i love weezer and i love this album too. good work boys!! weezer are the best band EVER!!

swingline (May 12, 2005)

"I like the cd. It's pretty good... it will probably start growing on me. I don't get why all you whiny bitches are all upset. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to listen to it. Bunch of morons.

-ejaculine"

you're fucking dumb.

tylerdurden8136 (May 12, 2005)

ah fuck me in the ass, i actually like this.

i've given all the other weezer albums a chance, and was never really a fan...and now i like the one that's causing such an uproar. oh well.

great review by the way.

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

"The reviewer needs to die in a horrible car accident"

People who are quick to wish horrible acicidents need to die in horrible accidents.

Anonymous (May 12, 2005)

I like the cd. It's pretty good... it will probably start growing on me. I don't get why all you whiny bitches are all upset. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to listen to it. Bunch of morons.

-ejaculine

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

"To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics?"

No, the guy who said that is the usual shit-talking idiot that frequents this site.

Go to AllMusic.com and look who has song credits for Blue and Pinkerton.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

The reviewer needs to die in a horrible car accident. Fucking review sucks. What is it with people endlessly comparing it to Blue or Pnkerton? Get a fucking grip, people.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

To the guy who said Matt Sharp was the "mastermind" behind Weezer.....why? Did he write a lot of the songs/lyrics?

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Weezer's best for sure since the glory daze of the blue album and pinkerton. I cant put my finger on it but it has some of that weezer magic that the last 2 albums were lacking. Has gotten better every time I have listened to it.

soulbleed (May 11, 2005)

while this is definitely the most garbage of all the weezer landfills, this review was really well-written and made me want to listen to it again. good job, scott.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

"[W]hile it may not be weezer's best, it's still way above what everyone else is doing."

Don't be a stupid fanboy. A crap album is a crap album and if you think that crappy album is better than what EVERYBODY else is doing these days, you need to crack out of that shell of yours and seek out some new music because there's tons of bands that could blow Weezer away anyday of the week on or off the stage, in or out of the studio.

bemused (May 11, 2005)

Not a fan of Weezer, cos they write some dreadfully mediocre music over the years, intersprersed with the occassional gem

-Chris-

captaincrackhead (May 11, 2005)

From the "Hash Pipe" to the crack pipe. Goddamn this album sucks!

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

while this obviously wasn't the weezer of yesteryear, I still think that this album is very refreshing compared to all the other monotonous crap that is being released these days. i really do enjoy listening to this album because while it may not be weezer's best, it's still way above what everyone else is doing.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

LIke someone else said, no wonder Rivers hates his "fans." It would not be hard not to considering they are a bunch of whiny, know-it-all bitches.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Give me a break Scott, fucking the band you hate with all your passion (Bracket) write better pop songs then the last three weezer disastors. You are simply wrong when you say that this is a "must-own" album, along with saying the last two were as well. You have a love for bad pop (Green Day/Weezer) that used to be good. Granted Green Day is still desc, but give me a break. This shit sucks. Have you seen the video for Beverly Hills? Read the Rolling Stone article on Rivers and tell me you don't want to punch that pompous freak in the face and burn all your Weezer cd's, despite how good the first two were.... Rivers sucks, Weezer sucks.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

if youre not at least pleased with "this is such a pity" then nothing was going to make you happy

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

I bought this yesterday. It's not doing anything for me.

pacer (May 11, 2005)

This is the first weezer album that i can honestly say i don't like. Nothing on here appeals to me. It's totally bunk.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

this is a good cd. i dig it and expect to listen to it often.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

I think the lawsuit was dropped and they worked things out outside the courtroom.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

what ever happened to the lawsuit in which sharp said he wrote alot of the songs and wanted royalties or something like that?

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Just to clear a few things up:

1) Weezer is signed to Geffen. They've been on it for all 5 releases. They are NOT indie-rock!!

2) Matt Sharp was the real mastermind behind the Blue Album and Pinkerton. If you're expecting this cd to be as good as those, you are very much mistaken. Because without him, Weezer is just not the same. And now is as good a time as any to make peace with that.

3) This cd is not good.

4) =w=

5) Weezer is pop, not punk. But because they're mentioned on this site as an exception to the rules, their albums are allowed to be reviewed. Even if you don't agree, you were made aware of this. So shut it.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

"Didn't this band just break up, like on the release date? They have a couple alright songs, but River go back to college yo, this ain't gonna be payin' the bills forever son."

what are you? his father?

- river's mom

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Didn't this band just break up, like on the release date? They have a couple alright songs, but River go back to college yo, this ain't gonna be payin' the bills forever son.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

damn...on that last post, i didnt mean "with or without", i meant "this track list or maybe without one more, your choice"

in no way should one more be added

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Perfect Situation
This Is Such A Pity
We Are All On Drugs
The Damage In Your Heart
Pardon Me
My Best Friend
The Other Way
Freak Me Out
Haunt You Every Day

This track listing with or without one more, your choice, would make for an easy 8.....i think this is what they should have released

darkstarm (May 11, 2005)

in this sea of bashing and praise for the new record one thing has escaped us all: how god awful the cover art is.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

"What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't.
No wonder the guy hates everybody! He may not be pleasing you, but he's writing what he knows... that's what songwriters do! If you can do better, then do it, I dare you!
And so what will you be doing 11 years from now? Probably sitting on your fat asses drinking a beer after mowing your own lawn - if you're lucky - because you can't write one single good fucking song yourself. Let Rivers do his thing and mind your own business."

Mom,
Please stop protecting me. i've got to learn how to stand up for myself, after my ivy league education, i'm doing exactly what my friends in the offspring are doing, making money. as long as the green keeps rolling in you'll never have to worry about you pension plan or social security. i love you mom.
kisses and hugs

Rivers...

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

the dwarves rule. hey anyone got mp3s of NOFX's 7 inch of april? "I am a huge fan of bad religion" is a cool song title.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

"What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't.
No wonder the guy hates everybody! He may not be pleasing you, but he's writing what he knows... that's what songwriters do! If you can do better, then do it, I dare you!
And so what will you be doing 11 years from now? Probably sitting on your fat asses drinking a beer after mowing your own lawn - if you're lucky - because you can't write one single good fucking song yourself. Let Rivers do his thing and mind your own business."

Golly Mr. Rivers, you certainly are upset that your band sucks balls. I would hope that you wouldn't project your own steaming pile of failure onto us, but it seems you already have. I might be sitting on my fat ass 11 years from now, and you can rest assured that I will have never given you or your band one goddamn dime of my money...except to mow my lawn. Trim around the trees, bitch!

-Ken

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

still over rated since day 1

stevejonestherealbones (May 11, 2005)

"I like to make believe Jones stopped posting his nonsense"

so you think weezer is indie rock?

ha...nonsense

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

I like to make believe Jones stopped posting his nonsense

MarkieStabone (May 11, 2005)

from the fuckin faq:

# 4.2 Why do you cover Weezer?

Yes, the staff likes Weezer, that's why we have a topic devoted to them. Weezer is one of the bands that got the three of us into music and both the Blue Album and Pinkerton were very important to us in our younger years. Punk-related bands like The Pixies and Elvis Costello among others heavily influenced Weezer. They also tour with a lot of great punk bands. So no, we don't think they're too far outside our scope.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Is anyone going to review the new Heaher hates you?

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Pitchfork gave it a 0.4. I agree with them.

- Californiaüberalles -

stevejonestherealbones (May 11, 2005)

"I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something?"

i fail to see how weezer is "indie-rock" and how indie is used to describe a bands sound either. so until you have a better classification of indie, you shouldnt be fuckin telling this site what classifies for punk...

i'm not saying weezer is punk, its just that, well, i'm saying youre stupid.

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

I fail to see how a fucking indie-rock band should be reviewed/reported on a website called Punknews. What's up with that? Is everyone at Punknews growing their hair long and wearing lots of tweed or something?

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

What is wrong with you people? ? You expect Rivers Cuomo to write the same songs he wrote 11 years ago or what? Does he owe you something? No. He doesn't.
No wonder the guy hates everybody! He may not be pleasing you, but he's writing what he knows... that's what songwriters do! If you can do better, then do it, I dare you!
And so what will you be doing 11 years from now? Probably sitting on your fat asses drinking a beer after mowing your own lawn - if you're lucky - because you can't write one single good fucking song yourself. Let Rivers do his thing and mind your own business.

swingline (May 11, 2005)

pitchfork likes bloc party.

ubershep (May 11, 2005)

"Oh, and of course pitchfork hates the cd. They hate every cd, it seems."

No they don't. They like Slim Cessna's Autoclub's latest.

stevejonestherealbones (May 11, 2005)

if i was a homophobe, why would i suck cock for a living?

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

CaveatMalefactor (May 11, 2005)

"call me a homo pussy licking contradictory faggot"

No thanks. Only jerks like you are so blatantly homophobic.

stevejonestherealbones (May 11, 2005)

call me a homo pussy licking contradictory faggot, but every time i listen to My Best Friend, i cant help but smile, sing along and imagine i had a best....er...think of my best friend

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

- score is for that song and my best friend

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Hilarious people can't stop comparing this to Pinkerton or their previous albums. Review THIS record, not their back catalog. It's amazing how fucking stupid people are.

Anonymous (May 11, 2005)

Review is garbage, album is pretty good.

CaveatMalefactor (May 10, 2005)

"Oh, and of course pitchfork hates the cd. They hate every cd, it seems."

No. They gave Good Riddance "Ballads from the Revolution" a 9.0. The lesson? They're extremely inconsistent and unreliable b/c the reviewers have such varying tastes. It's just the nature of music that it's so subjective. But so many critics write as if their opinions are objective truth - fuel for their egos.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Even if this album is not good, which I havent listened to yet. Please show some respect for a cool band.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

I'm back bitches! Feel my wrath!

John "The Quietman" Ruiz

moneenerd (May 10, 2005)

I wouldnt give this album that high of a review but a really well written review and i enjoyed reading it!

Nachohat (May 10, 2005)

Better than I thought it'd be. Some of the songs ARE pretty embarassing but the majority of the album's pretty solid.

It's not the return to form that I dreamed of it being but oh well. I doubt they'll ever make a true return to form, but I think I'll be a-ok with them putting out solid power-pop albums like this. Fine by me.

We Are All On Drugs does seriously have the worst lyrics ever, though. I mean...damn, they're bad.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

I'm not a huge Weezer fan, but I feel like forcing myself to like this album if only because Pitchfork's review was so damn boring. Good grammar doesn't mean anything unless you use it to say something interesting.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

I would say this album was really disappointing except after hearing "We Are All On Drugs" a week or so ago I wasn't expecting much. Some enjoyable tracks but for the most part.. not good. A ton of scrapped demos and 3 years and this is the best they come up with? Ridiculous. I don't like this album and I actually thought the green album and maladroit were pretty good. I almost wonder if this album is just a big joke by Rivers. He's crazy enough to do that.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

"Make Believe" is a pretty good album. Much better than the Green album or Maladroit.

Oh, and of course pitchfork hates the cd. They hate every cd, it seems.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

My old bass player was obsessed with Weezer. It was all he talked about, ever. He wrote Weezer-esque riffs, he worshipped Rivers as a genius, he snapped up anything that had even a little bit to do with them....he bought The Green album and Maladroit both on the days they were released, and ACTUALLY FORCED HIMSELF TO LOVE THEM.

The other day I IMed him to tell him that "Beverly Hills" was probably the worst song I had ever heard in my life, and he couldnt even come up with a excuse. This is it kids, the last wall has fallen, this band is dead. The only way they were still going to maintain any credibility was with an amazing album right now at this moment, and they blew it. Such crap.

Thank god I will never have to listen to him talk about this band ever again.

-!GreenVandal!

TheEvilMonkey (May 10, 2005)

The review doesn't even touch on the only truly great song on this album, "This Is Such A Pity." It's the only song that sounds like it's even trying to do something different.

The review talks about how Maladroit was a fan-input created album, but I would argue that this one is as well. I mean, Rivers went back and *tried* to create a nostalgiac album that would make people say, "this is sort of-kind of-not at all like- ". It's the safest album Weezer could have possibly written, not threatening to alienate any of the fans and not trying to make any new ones either. The album is dissapointing, but I guess it's better than nothing. (The Weezer addiction: You just want something new, no matter how mediocre it is)

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

They did the "greatest band in the world" a horrible injustice by naming this album Make Believe.
www.bangupjob.blogspot.com

marriedtomusica (May 10, 2005)

maybe this weezer cd is finally then end of the 90's !!!!!!

motion city soundtrack rules !!!

blinkrules (May 10, 2005)

Rivers needs more sex. Maybe that could help these awful lyrics. Worst album by Weezer definitely, even Maladroit had a couple good ones. The only one I liked was Haunt you Every day.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

this is for the sucker that is buying the "spoon" cd instead..... SPOON SUCKS and you are a child with no taste if you do that!

why don't you go buy Motion City Soundtrack instead - you will thank me...

this weezer cd is one of the saddest cd's i ever heard

civperc (May 10, 2005)

pinkerton and the blue album are great imo, and it makes me wonder why they've written such utterly crappy music since. oh well, I'll always have the first two to enjoy. everything else has been a major flop.

stevejonestherealbones (May 10, 2005)

how in the world is weezer trying new things on this album?

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

As a big weezer fan since the release of there first, and best album, I was very excited to see what 'Make Believe' would hold. While I am not blown away, I am also not disapointed.

"Beverly Hills" is a song that is perfect for radio. And so what? Does the fact a song gets radio play make it bad?

The album tries new things, and one thing you can say about weezer, is that they never are afraid to throw soemthing new, yet oddly familiar, at you.

I personally feel the album closes perfectly. 'Haunt You Every Day' is a song that doesn't seem like it would fit, just like weezer doesn't seem to fit.

The best, not necessarily, but great? I would say so.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Make Believe...your band ever actually mattered.

ElVaquero (May 10, 2005)

yeah, i have to agree with pitchfork on this one

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Once again the elitism of this site strikes down a good album. I agree with the review. Everyone else here is too cool anymore to like something like this

kenjamin (May 10, 2005)

I can't imagine safe happy pop music caused so much suffering and wrath that a reviewer had to go on a 300 word diatribe and unleash a 0.4. Pitchfork are a bunch of clowns aka music nerd Journalism majors who couldn't find a real job.

phdecontrol (May 10, 2005)

"read the Rolling Stone article and you'll see why this is likely to be their last album. The band doesn't even consider themselves friends; they prefer the term "aquaintances". Rivers has only promised to support this album until the end of this year. and their producer said they are the most dysfunction band he has ever worked with."

Well if that's the case, then I think everyone should know why this album isnt that great. A band has to keep that chemistry in order to be able to create a good album. but if you're falling apart at the seams, you're not going to go anywhere with your music. and recording upwards of 100 songs? come the fuck on....you should go with like 20 songs at the MAX and work with them to make them great. 100 songs to work with is just fucking overkill.

aubin (May 10, 2005)

I finally got a chance to hear the record (despite the fact that it's been online since 1997 as far as I know) and while there are some decent songs, Rivers has upped the cheese factor to the point of being cringe-worthy. Some of those solos are just awful and I can't even figure out why they need to be in the songs. To put it in perspective, I just bought Make Believe today and I'm listening to The New What Next instead.

I think the best assessment lies somewhere between Scott's review and the Pitchfork one and that's unfortunate.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

" (I hear the Alternative Press one is a definite page-turner)"

this is a joke right? I don't think you're that much of an asshole anyway.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

A couple of quick things. I do read Pitchforks reviews at least to get an idea about things, however Pitchfork is nothing if not two things:
1) Music snobs (which isn't good or bad)
2) Very vengeful if they feel wronged by an album.
There are several instances in which the score has been more of a symbolic gesture than an objective review (they gave Snapcase's "Design for Automation" like a 2 or something, yes not their best work but certainly not "MTV ready" as they claim). So while they my hate the new Weezer album the .4 isn't so much a score on the album as it is an exclamation point at the end of the review.
The album is at least a 5 or so, which is still failing, but hey it beats a .4. And I do believe that if Weezer fans buy this disk they are the most forgiving people ever.
-Dante

i-type-poorly (May 10, 2005)

"That's one of the stupidest things I ever read. If having sex with your mom is in any way similar to listening to maladroit, your mom is really hot,"

actually, he compaired Malidriot to the grandfather raping. This album is the mom.

I gotta agree with the jerkasses on this one, lousy album. I can read all the articles and interviews on the history of how the last two albums came to be, and what each song means, blah blah... It's still no good to listen to.

SkolarX (May 10, 2005)

"what were the other ones, farting on mic's?"

that made me chuckle and think of airheads "I ain't fartin' on no snare drum."

that said, nothing from this record caught my attention. i saw them live last week and nothing off the newer 3 albums really stuck. it seemed like everytime they would go into a new song it was time to get up and do something more interesting. i'd say judging by their stage presence they are done, though i could have said the same after the last time i had seen them 10 years ago. a couple of great records then...

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i definately think this is weezer's last album. After how long it took them to get THIS piece of shit together, another one just seems impossible. That and Rivers is like 35 or something now, why keep going? he's old and wants to study at harvard and be a fuckin weirdo, so let him.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

the album is such an improvement on Green & Maladroit.

read the Rolling Stone article and you'll see why this is likely to be their last album. The band doesn't even consider themselves friends; they prefer the term "aquaintances". Rivers has only promised to support this album until the end of this year. and their producer said they are the most dysfunction band he has ever worked with.

Anyways, I like the album. with the exception of the two singles.

Pitchfork is stupid. They gave Frances the Mute a 2.0 and TOOL's Lateralus a 1.9. Morons.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

what a shitty shitty shitty review.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

total crap.

oh and the album sucks too.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Why? Why would this band make this album? I agree with the pitchfork review 100%, this album makes me sick. That said, I still love the Blue Album.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

When you're runnin' from the police and you feel that anal grease, diarrhea, plop plop, diarrhea

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

"Was Rivers Cuomo always on the notebook-scrawl level of "I don't feel the joy/ I don't feel the pain," and did we not notice because scrawling in notebooks was the depth of our emotional knowledge at the time?"

That kinda sums this band up. I never thought they were really amazing like everyone thinks/thought...the sticker on the CD says "THEIR BEST ALBUM EVER LIKE OMG" - Alternative Press. Nice touch.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

EWWWW! Weezer..EWWW!

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i don't see any signs that this is weezer's last album. not sure where you got that from. i like it a lot.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

0.4/10 by Pitchfork. LMAO.

It's not good, but that score is laughable. I've heard much worse.

But yeah, Weezer's done. Stick a (Pitch) fork in 'em.

backupdork (May 10, 2005)

NEW KEVIN DEVINE?!

WHAT?

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

score is for matt sharp. and the new kevin devine cd.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

evolving and a different sound every album? seriously? after pinkerton everything has sounded like the same (aka shitty). i think that because they hold a special place in your heart (awww....but yea, i know their early stuff does in mine) you cut them a stuuuupid amount of slack.

Anchors (May 10, 2005)

I compare this band a lot to Saves The Day in the way their sound never really stays the same. Now this isn't necessarily for the better or worse, but at least they don't make the same album year after year.

That said, I still don't even know if I want to hear this. And this coming from a kid who bought Green and Maladroit both on the day they came out. This time around, I haven't even listened to the free stream on myspace. Blue will always keep their place in my own top 10 all time, but I can't see them reverting back to that kind of album ever again.

MarkieStabone (May 10, 2005)

"That's one of the stupidest things I ever read. If having sex with your mom is in any way similar to listening to maladroit, your mom is really hot, you have no moral misgivings of putting your dick in the hole you came out of, and you were never enlightened to the pitfalls and perils of incest. Or you're just a moron."

god damn, you're thick.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

heres how i feel about this album, coming from a long term weezer fan who even liked the Green album....its complete shit. maybe 3 decent-good songs, 3 that are truly unlistenable and the other 6 fall somewhere in between. completely forgettable, and a huge letdown considering the amount of time (3 years) and supposed effort that went into this (hundreds of songs written for it? and these are what make the cut? what were the other ones, farting on mic's?)

the lyrics are so general and pathetic, i can't believe people think its honest and deep or whatever. bullshit. its completely superficial sounding. very dumbed down, and the whole thing is rivers being so sappy and corny 'your my best friend and i love you' is one chorus. another is 'hold me i don't want to feel lonely' another features him going 'pardon me, pardon me, paaaardon me' like he's my grandma who just farted.

and don't get me started on the blatant 'pretty fly for a white guy' radio ready, one for the moron masses, radio single 'beverly hills'. totally laughable. and 'we are all on drugs'...just wow. maybe their worst song. i mean that. worse than anything on green for sure.

paul

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Score is for complete lack of punk record reviews this week.

CaveatMalefactor (May 10, 2005)

"better than maladroit at least, but that's like saying having sex with my mom was better than being raped by my grandfather"

That's one of the stupidest things I ever read. If having sex with your mom is in any way similar to listening to maladroit, your mom is really hot, you have no moral misgivings of putting your dick in the hole you came out of, and you were never enlightened to the pitfalls and perils of incest. Or you're just a moron.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i'm buying the new spoon album today instead

phdecontrol (May 10, 2005)

Blue Album was one of my first cds I ever purchased years and years ago, and I still love that disc. But as it was stated in the review, Weezer never stays the same (and that's probably a good thing for a band like them). And they have "evolved" into something that makes me yawn while listening. I think Scott is right, it's time for Weezer to end it. This one just doesnt cut it. There's no edge. The lyrics are horrible (not that Rivers wrote any mind-blowing lyrics ever anyways, but worse than usual). That being said. It's just dull.

ghostmonkey (May 10, 2005)

"better than maladroit at least, but that's like saying having sex with my mom was better than being raped by my grandfather."

thats one of the funniest things i have heard.

weezer have gone 'a bit shit' if you ask me. which you didnt, but, hey ho..

potshotrocker (May 10, 2005)

this album is so bad. i listened to maladroit and the green album today for the first time in a year and it was like a breath of fresh air compared to this long, drawn out mess. it made me like those albums for the first time ever

XmeepX (May 10, 2005)

we are all on drugs is probably the worst song weezer has ever written,ever.

NoUse4aScnName00 (May 10, 2005)

Oh yeah Pitchfork is totally wrong about Weezer. They said in one of their reviews that Alkaline Trio sounds like Less Than Jake without horns. They lost all credibility in my book after reading that. Pitchfork = musical idiots. Maybe if they took the time to listen CDs they could make better reviews.

NoUse4aScnName00 (May 10, 2005)

I think this CD is pretty good. You have to give it time though because you probably won't like it at first. Does anyone else find the openeing to the 2nd song on this to be very simililar to the opening to a song on their third CD?

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

I hate you.

I wrote a review for this too, but Scott's seniority and superior writing skills kicked me in the balls. I bring up a few different points (and mistakes) in my review, that should be up on Friday, bending how many milkshakes I buy Brian.

- Kirby

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i agree with the kid who said matt sharp made the first two so great.

backupdork (May 10, 2005)

no way, jonesy. i noticed the similarities to the diarrhea rhymes last thursday when they streamed the album on myspace. pitchfork stole that shit from me.

colin (May 10, 2005)

i really wish i could say this is the worst shit weezer has ever produced

unfortunately, they've done worse

this band died ages ago

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Do us all a favor and go away then.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Weezer sucks a bag of dicks. PURE SHIT. If you like them, FUCK YOU. I often question why I continue looking at this site: a site for twerps and choads.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Not so good. Pitchfork's review is harsh, but accurate.

OC

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

I'll be buying this at lunch today.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

New Weezer The Rentals = Old Weezer. Score is for The Rentals.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i agree w/ the guy that said matt sharp missing has brought them down. it's similar to the feeling that i have about the bouncing souls since shal left.

MarkieStabone (May 10, 2005)

here's how you make this a good album:

download the 12 song album, throw 2 of them away. i'm just wanting a 10 song album.

PUT TWO OF THEM UP YOUR ASS.

then the album is pretty ok. better than maladroit at least, but that's like saying having sex with my mom was better than being raped by my grandfather.

Crookedsuperhero (May 10, 2005)

The Blue Album was one of the first CD's i ever bought, and i still listen to it very often. Pinkerton is great too, but everthing else....blah.

sickboi (May 10, 2005)

Haven't given 2 shits about these guys since the Blue album.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

nice review. couldnt believe i was reading something coherent and intelligent for once in the review column. then it dawned on me that this guy works for AP. sidenote: if i was at the cover shoot for the new issue i might have been arrested for headbutting frank from MCR based purely on that horrendous eyeliner/makeup job.
-TOBB

Cos (May 10, 2005)

...and since no one has mentioned this yet...

What's missing from the last three albums? The one, perhaps crucial "X Factor" that made the first two so great? Anyone? Anyone at all?

Matt Sharp!

Cos (May 10, 2005)

and for something completely different:
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/w/weezer/mak e-believe.shtml

That one is the review that I wanted to read–I'll count myself as one who loved Pinkerton and the Blue Album and was thusly disappointed in the last two. And two albums is all it really takes before I lose interest, especially when the band's core fan base is a bunch of drooling idiots who will lap up any shit they band serves up. The "Green Album" was bad and "Maladroit" was laughable. "Beverly Hills" is pure shit and I won't be fooled again.

Goodbye Weezer. And no, I won't miss you.

CaveatMalefactor (May 10, 2005)

I think "Beverly Hills" sucks. I like the Blue, Green, and Pinkerton albums, but the band's gotten a little too smug for it's own goods. Rivers wrote better songs when he was constantly worried if people liked him or not. When he's confident, his themes are even more irrelevant and boring than they were before. They've never released a bad album though, so no one's wasting their money on this. Thumbs up for that.

You're horrible Bones.

BrandonSideleau (May 10, 2005)

never liked this band.....nothing special

swingline (May 10, 2005)

someone needs to stop them before their past becomes just a faded memory. say it ain't so is my favorite song but goddamn this album is horribly homosexual in every way possible anal dog shit hiv positive bacon strips.

Ollywood (May 10, 2005)

I may be the only one, but I really enjoyed Meladroit, the only Weezer CD I have ever bought and listened to entirely.
Weezer albums aren't worth buying due to every Weezer song you wanna being played on the radio on a more than regular basis. Beverly Hills is an awesome song. Weezer fucking rocks. Im sure this album fucking rocks like all the other songs Ive heard by them. I know its cool to hate the band so keep the negative comments flowing.

-Oli

score is for the band

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Please refrain from tasting the knob!

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Make Believe is awesome. not as goo as Blue or Pinkerton, but it's still a really great album.

stevejonestherealbones (May 10, 2005)

to scott:

how about you apers quit doing pages on WB tv stars and shit ike that, fucking A, i think that the worst part of your mag

to jesse:

pitchfork beat everyone to the diahrea thing and i'm mad at all of you, because i havent heard the song yet, and i most likely it is ruined because i will just think about shitting my pants

to patrick:

fuck you you asshole, go home homo

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

This album is seriously garbage. Frankly, the blue album and pinkerton we're flukes. It's pretty clear that Rivers can't write anything worthwhile anymore.

maverick (May 10, 2005)

Your mag is fashioncore dog-crap.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'd love to hear your (or anyone's) suggestions on how to improve it. Seriously.

-Scott

Jesse (May 10, 2005)

DAMNIT! Someone beat me to the diarrhea comparison to "We Are All On Drugs."

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Oh, and that actually was a good review, except for the A.P. plug.
Your mag is fashioncore dog-crap.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Second best album by Weezer.
This band rocks, though I will never again see them live.
Turd.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

one of the best reviews i've ever read on punknews.org.

felt like i was reading the new AP.

oh wait. hi scott.

TheMarc (May 10, 2005)

Pitchfork's review of the new Ben Folds was pretty harsh as well. Sad.

maverick (May 10, 2005)

dont knoe the story behind maladroit, but how was it largely user created or whatever? how was the writing more about the fans?

At the time, the band were demoing multiple songs a day, then posting the rough versions as downloadable MP3s on their website for their fans to check out and offer advice/suggestions/criticism on. This process went on for a few months, before the band finally decided a final tracklisting for what became Maladroit. Now of course, the band obviously had final say in the disc, but fan input was crucial to that album's creation -- the title even came from a message board suggestion.

-Scott

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

good review.

and pitchfork, well, you can just http://suckmyballs.ytmnd.com/

GobBluth (May 10, 2005)

as a huge 'blue album' and 'pinkerton' fan...well i think pitchfork (for once) describes this album best t:"the torpedoing of Weezer's legacy"

Imposs1ble (May 10, 2005)

Pitchfork gave this a 0.4...ouch!

fistchode (May 10, 2005)

Pinkerton is my second favourite album of all time (behind Operation Ivy). When I saw the video for the first single for this cd I was in shock.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Weezer is hands down one of the most overrated bands, and even the most vile shit they make will always be praised because they made the blue album and pinkerton--which are good, but throwaway, power pop. You're right, Scott, Weezer does have a remarkable fan base, but one that will forgive their every mistake because of a good album made ten years ago.

-duped

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

i dont knoe the story behind maladroit, but how was it largely user created or whatever? how was the writing more about the fans?

joeg (May 10, 2005)

i heard the album. better than their last 2 but still lagging far behind their first 2.

Karl_With_a_K (May 10, 2005)

i'll make believ i like it...i'm so clever

TheMarc (May 10, 2005)

Really good review, yet another really mediocre album.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

Wyzo
Then don't comment on a Weezer thread.

backupdork (May 10, 2005)

what a weird, but good review.
it made me want to buy the album, even though i was kind of disappointed when i listened to the songs on myspace.
it's definitely a step up from the last two, and i'll go pick it up soon.

the only other thing i want to point out is that the verses to "We Are All on Drugs" sound like those old elementary rhymes: "when you're sitting at your desk, and your pants become a mess, diarrhea."

tahoejeff (May 10, 2005)

That was a good novel! I'll have to check out this album

ubershep (May 10, 2005)

Even green was nice, but this is bad. I hoped, but it was for nothing.

Anonymous (May 10, 2005)

never cared for them.

wyzo

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