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The Starting Line

The Starting Line: Based On A True StoryBased On A True Story (2005)
Universal Music Group

Reviewer Rating: 4
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Contributed by: Sally_FieldMeg
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File this under flamebait and bid a fond farewell to my credibility. And yes, I said credibility again. Alright, let's go back to 2002, where the Starting Line released their first full-length, Say It Like You Mean It. I liked it a lot... and I mean it. At the time, however, my tastes did consist.
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File this under flamebait and bid a fond farewell to my credibility. And yes, I said credibility again.

Alright, let's go back to 2002, where the Starting Line released their first full-length, Say It Like You Mean It. I liked it a lot... and I mean it. At the time, however, my tastes did consist of the Drive-Thru catalog almost exclusively, so I suppose at this point there's no real surprise in my enjoying such an upbeat, poppy album.

However, here in 2005, where my favourite bands range from Saves The Day and Shutdown to Joan Of Arc and Bane, I'd say my tastes have matured at least a little bit, though I'm certain many would argue. With this maturity, I'll go out on a limb and say that I'm a bit more critical of the music I listen to. Okay we've covered my life story and my attempt at defending myself for liking the Starting Line.

Based On A True Story is sheer proof that the Starting Line have used these last three years as a period of maturation, both vocally and instrumentally. If there's one impression this album will give you, it's that Kenny lost his virginity and thinks it's really sweet to talk about it. The album's first track, "Making Love To The Camera," boasts a chorus of "It feels just like / it feels just like making love / making love." They do, however, redeem themselves quickly with "Inspired By The $," a beyond-catchy, aggressive song that sounds nothing like their previous work. The pop-punk gang vocals sure don't hurt, either.

Here at track four, we reach "Bedroom Talk," the pinnacle of this "sexual pop-punk journey," if you will. The first time I heard the chorus, "I'm gonna tear your ass up like we just got married and you're all mine now," I sort of cringed. Yet days after hearing it, I found the chorus constantly appearing in my head...and I stopped minding.

In the album's next track, "Surprise, Surprise," the sexual escapades have ended and talk of a dissolving friendship ensues. Based On A True Story's most standout track lies at the midpoint of the album in "Photography." The six-minute "dreamy" ballad is the guiltiest of guilty pleasures.

The need for a discussion of each song ends at this point of the album, where the individuality of the tracks wear down. Granted, this doesn't take away from the fact that it's way too catchy for its own good, notably in "The B-List" and "Ready."

In short, if you want to complain that this isn't real punk and shouldn't be posted here, you're not going to like this album. If you think the only band that ever mattered were the Sex Pistols, you're not going to like this album. But if you enjoyed the Starting Line's first album (admit it, I dare you), you'll be impressed to find that they've grown up, at least a little bit.

 

 
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kungfulawyer (October 20, 2006)

Your friends catching you listening to the starting line is like having your grandmother walking in on you masturbating with the neighbour's dog. All in all this band deserves some credit in the way they somehow manage to get their songs - especially ready and photography stuck in your head like gum in your mother's pubic hair. I like this band, however I must post this as anonymous so as to not lose my dignity and to avoid getting made fun of by all you punk kids spending your mommy and daddy's money on mowhawk wax. And all you girls out there 110-140 pounds who agree with me, give me a call and you can get your ass torn up like we just got married.

JesseKAY (June 5, 2006)

I love Sally Field!!!

Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

pathetic. "pop-punk gang vocals" get a taste in music my darling.

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

oooooooooh they are so kick ass!!

routman21 (July 21, 2005)

i think this cd is pretty bad, their old stuff is way better

Anonymous (July 14, 2005)

MCR is not poppish to me.

Anonymous (July 14, 2005)

This album is definitaly not what I excpected. The songs are sort of like a joke, in a good way. The first time I heard it I laughed and laughed. Once you listen to it long enough, you get used to it and you start to see that it is a great album.

Anonymous (July 9, 2005)

good call, the best 2 songs are defiantly suprise, suprise and B-List...
Starting Line are awesome but they r no rocket summer, man he rocks!

md40_07 (July 3, 2005)

ohh so your waffle is rolling over laughing then ok got it

crazytoledo (July 2, 2005)

do you know what that means.

lue term that pretty much is the same as rofl

rolling over fucking laughing

capiche?

md40_07 (July 2, 2005)

roffle my waffle??? hmm..no thanks

crazytoledo (July 2, 2005)

only MCR.

roffle my waffle

md40_07 (July 1, 2005)

I like Aromor For Sleep more than MCR anyway, but it isnt a crime to like both of them

crazytoledo (July 1, 2005)

I didnt hate MCR for poppish, I just didnt like a lot of their songs...

AFS is more technical and making music, not really just in it for the $

md40_07 (July 1, 2005)

I know Atreyu isn't really heavy, but anyway, u are dissing My Chemical Romance because they are to popish and u suggest Armor For Sleep?? I love both of those bands, but if u ask me they are both just as "popish"

crazytoledo (July 1, 2005)

And i do like some heavy stuff like Atreyu and Killswitch Engage

Atrey isnt heavy, KSE is kind ofheavy.

md40_07 (July 1, 2005)

ohh by the way, i have all those CD's u mentioned and i love Armor For Sleep and Silverstein, MTV is gay and they dont even play music anymore anyway. And i do like some heavy stuff like Atreyu and Killswitch Engage

crazytoledo (June 29, 2005)

hate to break it to you md.

MCR = Pop

Hawthorne Heights = Bottom portion of Emo fodder

I'd suggest Boys Night Out, Armor for Sleep, Funeral for a Friend, Between Home and Serenity, Lovehatehero, Bayside, and even Silverstein over HH, MCR, and the other stuff you listen to.

You know you dont just have to listen to a radio and watch MTV, theres other ways to listen to music...

On a side note, grow some balls and get something by Dark tranquility, Darkest Hour, The Agony Scene, Himsa, Dimmu Borgir, etc...

md40_07 (June 29, 2005)

i like anything that doesn't involve a perverted Backstreet Boys band and ScReAmO is 100 times better than this

Sally_Field (June 28, 2005)

If you like ScReAmO tons, then your ears bleeding would be a pretty kewl thing I'd imagine.

md40_07 (June 26, 2005)

wow...The Starting Line used to be a guilty pleasure for me because I have always been more of a hardcore/screamo fan, but in this CD they reveal THERE guilty pleasure of "tearing your ass up" man someone kill me now, when i first heard the song "Beadroom Talk" i thought my ears were gonna bleed.

Gary1989 (June 25, 2005)

woops wrong rating

Gary1989 (June 25, 2005)

The Starting line is awsome and all you bitches can just shut the hell up because you dont know a good emo band when you hear it.

Anonymous (June 3, 2005)

Good band, good cd.

Go shave you're mohawks, it's not attractive at all.

Anonymous (May 31, 2005)

Oh God!!! A terrible one!!!

Anonymous (May 31, 2005)

Perfect Album

Anonymous (May 29, 2005)

Lmfao. So many of you are complete idiots. You come onto message boards to insult people for listening to "emo" music. Grow up seriously. Obviusly none of you fools are artists or even musicians to a minor extent. If you were you would learn to respect bands that have gained substantial success for their talents. I personally was dissapointed with this album in comparison with their first one, but that's more attributed to my preference. I find it extremely funny that you call people close-minded for listening to emo music, when it is you that needs to broaden your horizons. I listen to anything from experimental rock, Industrial, indie rock, alternative, to reggae and ska. You all need to grow the fuck up and stop being little bitches. Pick up a fucking guitar, tell your fat little friend Stewy to buy a Bass and a good amp, tell your little pussy friend John to buy a faggoty cheap drum set from Target. And then have your fat mother sing for you. Buy Adobe Audition, lay out some tracks, and send me your EP. I'll be the judge of your horse shit. Thanks and have a great day. ;-)

Anonymous (May 24, 2005)

This album was well worth the 3 year wait. Stand out song Inspired by the $.. and to all you d-bags who come on and carve this album . get a life, i hate comin on to read reviews and we get you f***** queers writing your worthless and non intelligent comments.

Anonymous (May 24, 2005)

lol fourfa.com go fuck yourself too you clown. Whether this is emo or not, emo still sucks.

Anonymous (May 24, 2005)

starting line is the most unoriginal, uninspired piece of garbage band to surface in modern music

strutt (May 23, 2005)

A.P. gave this cd five out of five stars, I don't see any of you writing them letters bitching about how they suck.

Anonymous (May 23, 2005)

Fucking killer album.
Every person that knows how to create music (not the stupid messageboards jerks that trash-talk all over here) can all agree with me that The Starting Line know how to make quality music. Song structure, riffs, vocal melodies, everything is awesome. To mature and develop yourself in making music is a natural progression for any musician, and it's fucking disturbing when I read about kids complaining about this and that because some can't seem to understand this progression that every band goes through.

Buy this album. 'Nuf said.

Anonymous (May 23, 2005)

Alright, let‚??s go back to 2002, where the Starting Line released their first full-length, Say It Like You Mean It. I liked it a lot... and I mean it. At the time, however, my tastes did consist of the Drive-Thru catalog almost exclusively, so I suppose at this point there‚??s no real surprise in my enjoying such an upbeat, poppy album.

However, here in 2005, where my favourite bands range from Saves The Day and Shutdown to Joan Of Arc and Bane, I‚??d say my tastes have matured at least a little bit, though I‚??m certain many would argue. With this maturity, I‚??ll go out on a limb and say that I‚??m a bit more critical of the music I listen to. Okay we‚??ve covered my life story and my attempt at defending myself for liking the Starting Line.

Can I offer some (hopefully) constructive criticism?

The two paragraphs above made me cringe worse than the time I heard a morbidly obese middle-aged guy hitting on two teenage girls on the bus home.

It just seemed like kind of a lame thing to say -- "hey, 3 years ago I listened to different bands to the ones I do now". So what? You should only put stuff about yourself in a review, IMO, if it's emotionally relevant, or funny. Most people on this site probably listened to different stuff 3 years ago. I know I did. And most people probably still listen to at least some stuff that they were listening to back then. It doesn't make you, or your relationship to this band, any different from anyone else, and it certainly doesn't warrant two paragraphs.

Plus, starting out saying in your review that you're going to defend yourself for liking this band makes it sound like you agree with people who think liking TSL is like admitting you jerk off to concentration camp photos.

You might come prepared for whatever the internet's greatest asshats can throw at you, but that doesn't mean you should make it easy on them.

Also, putting a list of your favourite bands in a review where they have no relevance to a band you're reviewing is just unnecessary and, again, asks for people who hate those bands to shoot you down.

It doesn't make you look cool and diverse, it just makes you look like a name-dropper and, again, someone who is defending themselves because they think there's something wrong with aspects of their musical taste.

You seem to want to give this band a fair crack of the whip as a pop punk band. Fair enough -- I think they suck, but I'm not reviewing them. But you could've done that pretty easliy without bringing so much of yourself into the review and acting like somehow you knew that this band were like the leprosy.

A simple, objective review talking about the merits of their music within their genre would've been enough and probably wouldn't have got quite as many comments of twitching asshole standard.

Your review wasn't a "liek OMG thes band r the greatist in my life they r teh kewlies OMG lOl im sory :):) u must hate me 4 liekin them LOL" statement (unlike one of my countrymen below, who by mentioning he was from the UK has forced me to change my nationality to something less unpalatable - like Uzbeki, maybe...).

But it made it so easy to be dismissed as such by people who get their cocks hard typing bitchy backchat on a web forum, and I just think that's a shame when you're a new staffer. Give 'em a harder time, I say!

.Jack

bloodbrothersburnpiano (May 22, 2005)

"The current reviewer aside, people all across the net are talking abou how the staring line has matured.

I know I can't be the first to ask how is talking about teenage girls you've had sex with mature?'

becuase before all he talked about were teenage girls he HADN'T had sex with.

Anonymous (May 22, 2005)

This isn't emo dumb ass it's pop, not poppunk just pop. Also go fuck yourself with your bullshit "Broaden your musical horizons." I don't even like TSL in fact I despise them but you are a thousand times gayer.

www.Fourfa.com

Anonymous (May 22, 2005)

to the reviewer and the kids who love that shit:

stop listening to emo and broaden your musical horizons. There's so much more in music than this joke.

MCStevepants (May 21, 2005)

Best review ever written in the history of time
this girl better get paid
and promoted
to president

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

Gurl, I love you (It's Girl Kelly...you know, LJ and junk). They ain't nothing but haterz. Don't worry--people like to feel elitist by putting others down...because their music is the best, anyway. Clearly. I could say more, but I digress. This review is extremely well-written, though, and I am very proud of you. You should look into journalism...just an opinion. PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THOSE OPINION THINGS, WITHOUT BEING PERSECUTED. DID YOU KNOW THAT? Yeah, I didn't either. What is sarcasm? I forget. Ah, at any rate, I'll see you at Simple Plan! ;) ;) ;)

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

this album is such a step in the right direction for the band. they are doing what they know they can do well and that is write the catchy pop-punk songs that their fans love. If you dont like their music than dont listen to them and bash them for doing stuff that you cant do. The Starting Line will be one of my guilty pleasures for a while I'm sure.

MrStabone (May 20, 2005)

yeah it does

it says i am old and bitter and you are young and stupid

Sally_Field (May 20, 2005)

god you are a douche, that was the clash

good luck with high school finals and graduation...like OMG, LOL

Calling me a douche then telling me good luck with high school finals doesn't really say too much about you, either.

LOL i CleANsE VaGiNaZ!!23#

Anchors (May 20, 2005)

Don't know if anybody besides me noticed, but this is the 4,000th review.

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

screw all of you that don't like this...look at me i'm too hardcore to like the starting line - they are a little girl band...whatever, they bring it with this album and bring it hard

this is a good album and they kick your ass

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

Good comment regarding Catchy songs being written by the Beatles!

I heard the New Motion City Soundtrack today, You can't sing about booze THAT much, its gets old. I am The Movie had some killer moments

Barkley

rkl (May 20, 2005)

i, like your fair-hearted reviewer listen to a wide range of music, including pop-punk. but where exactly is the punk in tsl's music? these lyrics/song premises are just stereotypical teeny bopper bullshit. youd get more depth jumping in a puddle.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

where is the unseen review!?

ubershep (May 19, 2005)

"Using a device called the Omega Beam, the planet Rann was transported across the Universe to hide it from its enemies. Upon its return however, a saboteur altered its destination, sending it to the star system of the warlike Thanagar. The resulting gravitational strain sent Thanagar hurtling into its sun, leading to planetary Armageddon. Now Thanagar‚??s refugees are living on Rann, the very world that destroyed their own. As tensions run high, Rann‚??s defender Adam Strange seeks allies for the conflict he knows is to come."

For the story fodder they have, the Infinity Crisis stories can be heck of a lot better written. Private Chimp was when they jumped the shark into WTF?!-ville.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

What kind of crap is this? Oh wait....it's the same kind of crap thats been churned out by the bucketload since the later half of the 90's.

EMOHOLOCAUST (May 19, 2005)

Using a device called the Omega Beam, the planet Rann was transported across the Universe to hide it from its enemies. Upon its return however, a saboteur altered its destination, sending it to the star system of the warlike Thanagar. The resulting gravitational strain sent Thanagar hurtling into its sun, leading to planetary Armageddon. Now Thanagar‚??s refugees are living on Rann, the very world that destroyed their own. As tensions run high, Rann‚??s defender Adam Strange seeks allies for the conflict he knows is to come.

EMOHOLOCAUST (May 19, 2005)

WHAT THE HELL
have a band concept i dea : electro-SCREAMO-BILLY-
im gonna call up a bunch of people and put up a band that sounds like
the killers with upright bass and mixed with synthesizers and then im gonna write songs about broken hearts and girils and shit and then incorporate the tiger army/nekromantix influence on it and then put on some heavy distortion on the choruses and then the way i want to make the song choruses sounds like is that me screaming like bert from the used or maybe the guy from underoath
as accompanied by fast playing of the upright bass.
shit how shitty should this be?

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iheartadam (May 19, 2005)

Teen girls are too old for my liking.

jamespastepunk (May 19, 2005)

The current reviewer aside, people all across the net are talking abou how the staring line has matured.

I know I can't be the first to ask how is talking about teenage girls you've had sex with mature?

ubershep (May 19, 2005)

Why is Sally a staff member? She can't even get a common scene term right.

iheartadam (May 19, 2005)

I'm not sure the rash around my pubic region will ever go away.

MrStabone (May 19, 2005)

one more thing

i decided to grab a copy from work and listen to this shit right now

if this is what the youth of today considers catchy....god i can only imagine what my kids will be listening

this shit is not catchy! it's just really fucking lame and boring.

go listen to the beatles and then you will know what catchy is

MrStabone (May 19, 2005)

am i at absolutepunk again by mistake?

this is total garbage....pure and simple....it sucks

as for your remark on the pistols being the only band that mattered

god you are a douche, that was the clash

good luck with high school finals and graduation...like OMG, LOL

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

(_(_)===[jjjj]===lD ~ ~ ~ ~(____(____)

better?

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

OK, without even having heard this I can fairly safely assume I wouldn't like it much. But stop abusing the reviewer. You may not always (or ever?) agree with her opinions but she writes pretty decent reviews. And personally I'd rather read something like this, something I disagree with but is well written, than someone who can't string two words together telling me that The Starting Line suck.

threechordsandthetruth (May 19, 2005)

I'm not pleased with the ASCII cocks that are frequenting the site as of late.

bloodbrothersburnpiano (May 19, 2005)

"a relationship concept record...

starting line is the jawbreaker of my generation.

save me."

actually the concept is more about the music industry.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

The six-minute ‚??dreamy‚?Ě ballad is the guiltiest of guilty pleasures.

hahahahahahaha drive thru is god

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

8=======D this band

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

a relationship concept record...

starting line is the jawbreaker of my generation.

save me.

joeg (May 19, 2005)

No ma'am.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

i'm not usually one to say what's punk and what's not. but rest assured, these ass huggers are not.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

fuck this preppy ass boy band, they make simple plan look like sick of it all....

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

Wow. Nothing is funnier then people who dont understand sarcasm.

Of course we all know that the only band that matters is really boxcar racer! and GC and SL are what keep punks cracked and withered heart beating. They are the blood in this dead scenes veins! God fuck them and let them burn those motherfuckers. I ment bless them.

I want to vomit.

-!GreenVandal!

swingline (May 18, 2005)

guy below me: lead between eyes.... HURRY

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

Look at this comment, Hmmmmm I own a cd from almost all these bands because I have a wide taste in music. And my band im working on has a wide variety of music.

But Good Charlette and TSL is fucking pure crap compared to the Clash.

I understand music enough to know this kid. I like love alot of pop punk bands (blink, brand new ect)

I own all TSL cd's and the newiest GC was was pure shiiiiiiiiiiiiit honestly decent song on it. Lifestyles was better.

But im seriously going to kick your ass for the comment on old school punk.

Now you better go out and buy a clash cd, a misfits cd, a ramones cd and listen to it till you like it because I will find out where you live.

"Good Charlotte is GREAT and they, like The Starting Line, have something to say. If your think the Sex Pistols, Clash or Ramones are the best bands ever, well, you're probably not mature enough to understand more sophisticated, adult music like The Starting Line delivers."

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

kenny is very very gay looking. he looks like a girl. while this band does suck beyond belief i cannot deny the catchiness of bedroom talk. i still despise these guys though. but they are by far better than simple plan or the WORST BAND EVER bowling for soup.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

OO:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::)

thats gay

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

but sloth wins in the end....i mean , it was almost a sweet analogy...do you mean dropped him as a baby? i dont' get it...

well the album did move like 40k its first week, thats pretty solid...i think they'll keep them around...although fall out boy did much better its first week.

-paul the fratboy who lieks mest

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

ten bucks they'll get dropped from their label like Ma Fratelli dropped Sloth.

iheartadam (May 18, 2005)

Shut up donut boy.

Oh and Louie, I'm open (get it) to have a cock-off. Let me know if you're interested.

trailerparkjesus (May 18, 2005)

favorites*

trailerparkjesus (May 18, 2005)

Brian, stop playing favorite with the fucking reviewers.

lou (May 18, 2005)

it cut of my comment. what i meant to say was...

by the looks of your big "i heart adam" penis i can probably only fit half as much cock as you can.

lou (May 18, 2005)

as archangel so eloquently put it... that was cute, but you know i'm right. the review sucked.

and by the looks of your big "i

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

...........................................................the clash is 'the only band that matters' christ thats a well known quote, or are you all just fucking around by saying ramones and stooges?

Paul
Kappa Delta Rho

g-mouth (May 18, 2005)

"Tear your ass up like we just got married" is an example of really good lyrics.........if you're a 14 year old fat kid writing your first song in study hall.........i mean c'mon, Kenny is a 14 year old skinny kid.....he's not being true to himself, GOSH!!!...

Archangel (May 18, 2005)

iheartadam,

That was cute, but you know he's right. The review blows goats, regardless of lou's sexual preferences.

iheartadam (May 18, 2005)

Hey Lou,
How much cock can fit up your ass at the same time? I mean on a normal day.

swingline (May 18, 2005)

"A cute girl I knew (With a gererally good taste in music) told me these guys were good, so I downloaded a few tracks and listened to them. The lesson here is; never trust women."

my theory will always hold true.

lou (May 18, 2005)

no offense, but this review is pretty terrible. seriously. what is with the shit about credibility and how your taste sucked three years ago? it's weak. it made me lose interest in what you had to say and become much more critical at the same time. ...i'm not trying to be mean, but the peoples on this board aren't exactly kind and it doesn't make sense to me to make the argument "my musical taste was bad. but i'm MUCH more MATURE now and i still like the starting line."

just my $.02 ...work on your style.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

A cute girl I knew (With a gererally good taste in music) told me these guys were good, so I downloaded a few tracks and listened to them. The lesson here is; never trust women.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

Its a shame that a release this terrible gets top billing on a day when a truly excellent album was released. Just picked up the new Troubled Hubble and it's incredible. Who needs Dismemberment Plan with these boys around.

jaxkid1 (May 17, 2005)

Fuck you, I like the Starting Line.

Archangel (May 17, 2005)

Could you please try writing a review that doesn't read like a LiveJournal entry? Thanks.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Silent Majority's "Based on a True Story" is a million times better than this sorry excuse for music.

swingline (May 17, 2005)

i agree with the comment below. yesterday, my friend asked me the greatest questions i have ever heard: "is that johnny cash? why do you still listen to him? isn't he already dead?" so i pondered it for a while and realized he was right. people who are dead are most likely hippies... and hippies suck.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Good Charlotte is GREAT and they, like The Starting Line, have something to say. If your think the Sex Pistols, Clash or Ramones are the best bands ever, well, you're probably not mature enough to understand more sophisticated, adult music like The Starting Line delivers.

wrongstring (May 17, 2005)

the only band that matters is the Stooges and "I wanna be your dog" is the greatest punk rock song ever...ever, except for Fuck the police by NWA

CellarDoor (May 17, 2005)

Damn Sally, you used to represent the pure essence and the soul of PN.org. Shame on you for rating BOATS 4 stars.

The album just sounds bland to me. Score's for "Making Love To The Camera".

inagreendase (May 17, 2005)

well you sealed that with not making the right reference.

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe she wasn't trying to employ everyone's favorite phrase and just make a general comment?

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

AHHHHHH!

I liked all of your reviews until you got to this shit.

No

thank

you.

3 stars at the most....and thats if I dont consider the lyrics.

-!GreenVandal!

prankish (May 17, 2005)

Why does every review these days start making excuses for why they like the album they're reviewing? It's like admitting you're listening to crap.

"If ______, then you won't like this album."

How about if you like GOOD MUSIC, you won't like this album. It has nothing to do with punk elitism or being "too tough for this sissy crap", this is just bad music. If you don't like being stereotyped for listening to bands like TSL, then stop stereotyping the people who don't.

Sally_Field (May 17, 2005)

lol.

SORRY!

I meant the Ramones!!

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

"there's only one "the only band that matters". and it isn't the sex pistols. get it right."

this comment is right. you ask us to bid a fond farewell to your cred. well you sealed that with not making the right reference. stop jerking to your drive thru records catalog and go rock the casbah.

Nietzsche (May 17, 2005)

Catchy.
I can't wait to hear this in hollister.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

there's only one "the only band that matters". and it isn't the sex pistols. get it right.

Marlon (May 17, 2005)

If you guys don't like this band or this type of music why do you fuckwits always have to read the review and slander it? Im 20 and fucking love this band and have done now for 4 years. Im from the U.K and cant wait till the album arrives over here..... OH SHIT I guess i am now gay for liking this band, brb Im off to suck some cock and listen to my drive thru compilations. Grow up and get over the fact that not everyone has the same taste in music. Beep.

Your not gay you just like shitty music. I have tons of friends who like shitty music, don't feel bad buddy. Just cause we're pretentious assholes doesn't mean we wish for you to stop existing.

Marlon (May 17, 2005)

I'll agree that this band improved but I don't know about four stars...

bloodbrothersburnpiano (May 17, 2005)

i totally disagree with this review. i like a wide variety of music but am not ashamed to say i do enjoy some pop-punk from time to time. i liked the last starting line album when it came out, but this record is crap. everyone keeps talking about how much their lyrics have matured. give me a break, they've gotten WORSE. they have an entire song devoted pretty much to only these lyrics over and over again "we're all all all, we're are all a part of the world of course, if you you're feeling this sing it out, if you know it sing it out" are you KIDDING me? that is inexcusably bad.

my major complaint with this reivew is how the reviewer praises some of the worst songs on the album, but totally ignores "ready," which is the only track worth a damn on the record. sounds like everything else?! it sounds nothing like anything else on the album. seriously this track will probably make more than one of my mixtapes in the future, but the rest of the album is trash.

i do like how they decided to branch out with the time signatures instead of playing only in 4/4 like pretty much every other pop-punk band ever.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

as a follow up, yes the cover art sucks, yes the one dudes hot the other looks hot w/ a jackhammered face , the other dude is 30 and kenny looks like stewie.

paul

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

We need to exegete the title to fully understand this album

'True Story' - The true story is that the Starting Line suck
'Based on' - This album is based on that notion.

The players:
- Kenny Vasoli - Prettiest girl in a band since the keyboard player in Hanson.
- Guitar player #1 - I'm not gay, but he is way to hot to be in this band. I heard Hollister is recruiting.
- Guitar player #2 - What the fuck? That's all i can say about this one.
- Drummer - Is the exact replica of what guitar player #1 would look like if he got jackhammered in the face. Also could be the love child of guitar players #1 and#2

ghostmonkey (May 17, 2005)

a nice haircut does not make a good band.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

If you guys don't like this band or this type of music why do you fuckwits always have to read the review and slander it? Im 20 and fucking love this band and have done now for 4 years. Im from the U.K and cant wait till the album arrives over here..... OH SHIT I guess i am now gay for liking this band, brb Im off to suck some cock and listen to my drive thru compilations. Grow up and get over the fact that not everyone has the same taste in music. Beep.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I'm gonna call this "10x better than any fucking Rancid record" and give it the highest score possible. Just because I can...

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Does anyone else think the artwork (the cover especially) is terrible? Look at it....

boba_fett (May 17, 2005)

and that said, you suck for liking this album.

boba_fett (May 17, 2005)

you, like myself, and most other people on this site, never had any credibility in anyone elses view besides those of their friends to begin with, so dont worry about defending it or losing it.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Shite-oldpunker-

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

first of all, when you're reviewing, don't brag about how amazingly diverse your musical taste is. makes you look pathetic.

second, this album sucks. i haven't heard a note of it...but come on. anyone with decent taste knows this band is awful. they're obviously trying to appear much more "mature" now, so they're writing clumsy "bold" lyrics about sex. cooool.

and "the only band that matters" was the clash. not the sex pistols. get it together.

Sally_Field (May 17, 2005)

I gave this album a four because for it's kind, simple pop-punk, I thought it was very accomplished and very improved. They're not trying to be something they're not and they're not trying to be YoUr FaVe BaNd.

They're cheesy as hell and out of all the cheesy as hell bands I've listened to, they do it the best.

SUP OPINIONS?

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

This album is a great emo-pop album - no questions about it - if you don't like the genre why even bother wasting your time bitching about it --- making fun of power pop-emo bands is trendy and boring

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

i wouldn't even use this record as a coaster for drinks, it would be too immasculating

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

as scott said...this really isn't a bad album. Granted, if you didn't like the starting line before ...you won't now. But it has matured lyrically and musically...especially musically. BUT...it has its pitfalls....heres a track by track review, starting w/ the duds...

Photography- a 6 minute love ballad w/ lots of 'aaahhhhh' and 'ohhhs'. sounds like they shot for a brand new type ballad, but no...didn't happen. Probably their most ambitious song to date, but just doesnt do it.

Ready-At first I thought this sounded like a blatant say anything 'fuck the critics' type progressive building emoey rip off...then i found out max bemis is on the song and kenny vasoli is on his nuts...so go figure. yea it kinda sucks. and it doesnt help kenny hyped the song as the best thing he ever wrote. BUT, at least they tried for something new...neither this nor 'photography' sound anything like their album 3 years ago.

inspired by the $- another sound departure. odd time signature, very slow, and lyrics about hating the record industry (based on this song and 'ready' sounds like they were put through the major label wringer...boo hoo). the song is i guess 'edgy' for them...but to me its just boring, and Kenny's screams in the breakdown just seem a bit much...another 3rd different sound departure they didnt' quite pull off, but again, the ambition and musical maturation is there. this song also kills the momentum of the opening track...

ok, so theres the 3 departures for their sound and for the album...as you can see i'm not really convinced by any of them, none of the 3 are horrible, but it just didn't quite happen yet.

the rest of the album

making love to the camera-a driving frantic verse and half time chorus...think taking back sunday type music mixed w/ a more frantic starting line. a good song about going from a nobody in the music scene to moving 300,000 copy's of their first cd... a good song, but lyrically, a little cheesey. good vocals though and a good natural progression of their pop punk sound

bedroom talk-the single. standard pop punk w/ the semi-controversial line about 'tearing ass up like we just got married'. its catchy and it has that guilty pleasure feel. but its still pretty bad lyrically...i really don't need to hear bout kenny losing his virginity...i'm not a 16 year old girl who's gonna fantasize about him.

surprise, surprise-the best song on the album , and maybe the starting line's best song period. classic starting line pop punk sound, but structured slightly differently than the standard 'verse, chrous, verse'. the song really builds throughout, has great lyrics (kenny actually sounds mad at the girl this time unlike last album where it sound he was about as heartbroken as I am when I burn a pop tart) and great backups in the chorus.

autography-shitty lyrics about the starting lines 'journey' from a garage band to selling out shows. a bit self indulgent and the music is standard. blah. next.

tracks 8,9,10.....all are natural progressions of their sound. 8 sounds like an improved 'sleep in your own bed tonight' or whatever track 5 was called on their last disc. 9 is classic tsl but even poppier w/ an acoustic guitar driving the song along w/ electric and drums. its about missing a girl of course. 10, the B-list is interesting lyrically and has a great chorus. one of the better tracks.

the world-a cheesey song about being happy to be alive I guess. horrid lyrics and standard music.

cut! print it-one of the better tracks on the album. a complimentary song to 'surprise surprise' a biting song about closure w/ a girl over classic tsl pop punk. again, an actually pissed off kenny drives this song.

overall its an above average cd, and a progression for them, even if at times they reached too far (photography) it DOES sound like they may get there...especially when kenny's lyrics catch up to the musics maturation. they mastered their 'pop punk' sound from the last album (surprise surprise)...but instead of abusing that and making a whole other new album of it, they tried to branch out and get more variety, while retaining their old sound. Should they be as popular as they are? no...are they overrated?...yes.

paul

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

AP gave this a 5 out of 5 right. Along with Fall Out Boy and Spitalfield. That magazine cracks me up. What a joke!!

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

"You do realise you've just given four stars to an album that features the lyrics "I‚??m gonna tear your ass up like we just got married and you‚??re all mine now"."

Holy crap. Republicans nationwide must be rushing out to purchase this balderdash.

Crookedsuperhero (May 17, 2005)

Explain then, go right ahead Mr. Line.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Listen to the song "Death to birth" from Michael Pitt instead. This is an awesome song. And go see Last Days too.

gladimnotemo (May 17, 2005)

"Candy coated, poorly played, over produced, soulless pop music has no place on a punk rock website."

You forgot "brought to you by the fine people at Nike!".

swingline (May 17, 2005)

wait, i can explain.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Possibly the worst band on the planet right now. Plus they're vegans, KILL THIS BAND and then have a steak with a side of pork chops. Only girls like this garbage.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Listened to the first half of this last week and it didn't do much for me. Certainly didn't feel catchy enough for me to have played it again since.

Just a comment on the review: "The need for a discussion of each song ends at this point of the album, where the individuality of the tracks wear down." - this suggests to me that four stars is a bit excessive whatever. If the second half of the album has no track that stands out, I'm not sure it merits anything more than three stars does it?

Crookedsuperhero (May 17, 2005)

You do realise you've just given four stars to an album that features the lyrics "I‚??m gonna tear your ass up like we just got married and you‚??re all mine now".

Unless you're ten, this is unforgivable.

BrandonSideleau (May 17, 2005)

Oh for the love of......well, I guess everyone has their own opinion. But in my "humble" one, this shit needs to be exterminated from the planet. Candy coated, poorly played, over produced, soulless pop music has no place on a punk rock website.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

giving a four star review to a starting line record is a fucking dealbreaker, punknews. this is impermissible and sick. fuck these kids. shouldn't this have been one of the records that you passed along to jesse? i hope someone on your staff is driving a new escalade because of this review.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Paaaayooooolaaaa!

colin (May 17, 2005)

4 stars ? are you kidding ?

Ollywood (May 17, 2005)

(edit)
when will these guys cross the finishing line and call it day

-Oli

Ollywood (May 17, 2005)

When will these guys the finishing line and call it a day

-Oli

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Horrible band. Absolutley horrible.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Is this reviewer really a girl?

-Chinatown

inagreendase (May 17, 2005)

This is decently enjoyable. I can't really take the chorus of "Bedroom Talk," but there's a few other tracks I don't mind getting stuck in my head.

I sort of wish they'd matured lyrically, too, because this could be quite solid if it was just well-written.

Oh, and nice review. Score is questionable but it otherwise sums up the disc perfectly.

maverick (May 17, 2005)

This album isn't bad.

For that matter, neither was their acoustic EP from a few years ago.

Seriously.

-Scott

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

poop

Jesse (May 17, 2005)

Honestly‚?¶Tim Kinsealla doesn't deserve to be listened to by the same person who likes The Starting Line.

HA! That's what I probably would say if I really was a Joan of Arc freak (I only own 6 albums, what?). Anyway, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. So just watch your back. Because my hopped up on caffeine/sleep deprived ass is going to hunt you down and hand it to you.

A letter of congratulations. For like the worst band ever and publicly declaring it.

I'm going to regret posting this when I wake up and realize how cracked out I actually am.

ubershep (May 17, 2005)

Once again, I shake my fist at Sally Field and damn her to hell.

Benjasaurus (May 17, 2005)

Any band to use the phrase "I'm gonna tear your ass up" that does not have the name 2 Live Crew should be shot.

And was I the only one who laughed at the phrase "pop-punk gang vocals"?

stevejonestherealbones (May 17, 2005)

iheartadam is going to have a heart attack when he/she sees that both fall out boy and starting line are reviewed in the same batch...its looking like tateland over here....its fucking beautiful

- jonesy the a bonesy

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I for one like the album. And I didn't even like the first one. It really does show a more mature side of the band, and the songs are catchy. I heard some magazine compared this to Deja Entendu. That's definitely not true, but it's definitely a fun listen.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

No one ever thought that the Sex Pistols were the only band that mattered

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

There are so many better "guilty pleasure" bands out there, why would you listen to this?

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

This review should have been at the very botton.

-Chinatown

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