Its a good albulm, it just gets depressing and repetitive after a while

I could never listen to this long enough to even try and get into it. Every time I start a track, I can't stand 10 seconds, and switch back to a different album. Maybe someday this will grow, but after these years I somehow doubt it..

This is a great album. I hated fhtI and good mourning, and I was luke warm on MIWCF. This is thier best album since Goddammit

Pretty bad for Alkaline Trio...decent compared with most crap.

I love the Screeching Weasels

Wow. This album has renewed my love for the Trio. I would honestly rank this as a close second in Alk3's catalog, right after MICF but right before Goddamnit. Matt's songs are top-notch for the most part, and this has some of Dan's best work. The weakest track is probably "Settle for Satin," and that is still a good track. Great album.

"I forgot to mention alk3 had the guy that produced blink 182's shitty pop albums produce crimson"
your a fuckin idiot, Jerry Finn also produced Good Mourning so STFU.

a great album hasnt got the same in ur face up frontedness in the lyrics but thats because they've matured as any band will nd shud do

THIS ALBUM IS NOT THEM that is the problem there may be good production and all that stuff but it not them the production and everything is not them its linkin park and nu metal bring back goddamnit i want them not a produced version of them.

It's frustrating reading the comments below because most people seem to hate this album because it is different. These same people would hate the album had it just been another Goddamnit or Maybe I'll Catch Fire. No one wants a band to become static. It should grow up, and that is what Alkaline trio is starting to do. They are beginning to shed their punk skin and giving a little more focus to the music. They have always had witty lyrics (although I do agree that some of them are quite terrible at the same time), but the music has never changed. I was surprised by the piano at the beginning of Time to Waste, and even more surprised by The Poison, which is like nothing done they have done before. But as the album progressed, it became more apparent to me that this departure from the norm was welcome, especially after Good Mourning. The harmonies between Skiba and Adriano provide a chilling melodic sound that had been lacking in previous efforts. Overall, the album has rekindled some of the love I once had for Alkaline Trio but had been lost due to little variety.

I forgot to mention alk3 had the guy that produced blink 182's shitty pop albums produce crimson

Im a big Alk3 fan, but does any one besides me think that they tried to sell out on Crimson??(didnt work)

Crimson, a Haiku:

I cry tears of blood
So many songs about Hell
It's just not that good

-Lev007

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out, because I got sick of reading the comments when they were reduced to discussions about wheather or not "wookie" should be capitalized. But in response to some people cringing at the poor songwriting on Crimson ("drive yourself insane tonight"; "blowing you a kiss") the Trio has always had lyrics that, when read on paper, are pretty cringe-worthy. Examples:

"The other cops call you fatso"

"I'd love to rub your back"

"Sing you to coma so to speak"

"Something sharp to tear into my insides and bleed out all this pain"

"Tuck me in to bed with snakes"

"You were like a toilet bowl at the end of a rainbow" etc.

Alkaline Trio has always had its fair share of corniness, which I think makes them a much more honest and easily accessible band. Now, I do agree that their songwriting (especially Matt's) is not up to par on this album, but I don't think "corniness" is a factor. Matt and Dan's vocals are both poppily touched up from what they actually sound like, which is disappointing. And musically, they are straying much more from the Trio we used to know.

However, if you take this album on its own, without thinking back to the Asian Man days, it's a good record. As are all Trio albums. As far as bands go, they've had a nearly spotless career.

And to whoever said Dan's songs on Maybe I'll Catch Fire are among the worst Trio songs ever, I couldn't disagree more.

Great album, just not the same as their older stuff.

This album is so cool. Sadie makes me feel cool. Great album guys. Love it i love the song 'Mercy Me'!

great album! love it very much. Mr. Skiba is cool and so is dan. -^^- yummy.

this album, in my opinion, it their best yet
the songs dont vary much, but their greatness surpasses

yeah...the guy below me is right....alk 3 need vary up their sound more...maybe use some horns, have some rap sections, and maybe have some guy screaming on certain parts of the songs.

Alkaline Trio never disappoints. Yet another album that will leave you wondering, "Is this song on continuous repeat?"

after listening to this cd for the last several months i think its quite good....but i still like GM, FHTI, and MICF much better. Ohh...and the hot water split...fucking queen of pain...thats the best!

Crimson is a fantastic album,I havent stopped listening to it since i bought it. The songs are produced very well, there isnt a weak track on it. It is better than Good Mourning, but only just. And for Godammit-that album is poor, one of the worst in my collection.

This album is awesome and i am on my way to see them in a couple of months

loving the mix of dan and matt as well as the paino sections and the once again cringe inducing lyrics

if i had to give a bad point it would be the use of two guitars in a three pice, i have no idea why but that really gets to me

Yes alkaline trio have changed but its something that all bands do or it would get boring, nevertheless i think that they could have included some more "rough" sounding songs like the amazing cringe and i lied my face off

This album is so fukin awsum! To the person who insists that the lyrics aren't clever, maybe you should listen a little more carefully.. don't bother rating and reviewing an album unless you know what you are talking about! I have been listening to this CD on repeat ever since it came out and the lyrics are well though-out! Also, someone said this album is gothic.. I'm not sure if you've noticed yet or not but the Alkaline Trio's genre is quite morbid. Perhaps you should revisit your CD collection, how did this end up in your possesion? It doesn't sound like it would be your style at all!
More to the point, if anything I think this album has a 'happier' feel to it than the others. I mean, it's all still about death and shit but the music is a bit 'cheerier' if that's at all possible for these guys! I dunno. These guys are awsum.. there's no better! They have wikid lyrics and the music underneath it is full of force.. it just 'gets' you.
Hope that makes sense!
-x mWa x-

10!

this album rocks, anyone wanna join the alky military? add alkyHQ@hotmail.com. the hype is because it is good whoever said that

Sorry, but this CD was too far of a downgrade from the last two albums. I can hardly tell the difference between the last 7 songs!

I completely agree with the guy below that said Derek went overboard with the high-hat. I think it's supposed to sound like scissors or something, but it just sounds stupid. There are a couple gems on this album: Mercy Me and Poison, but all in all the music is slow, the lyrics aren't clever or personal--they're mostly just gothic.

Alkaline Trio saved me!!!!

umm i dont really have much to say about this album...not the best but not bad

oh and response to caveatmalefactor
hahahahaha i know what you mean about that clockwork orange thing..i thought it was funny what you said..im a dork too :)

I love myself and love reading my own comments!

notice i gave this album a 5 when any other of alkaline trio would be 8 9 or 10 see the thing is with crimson it just seems like they died what pissed me off the most is that derek got cutesy with the high hat. derek grant is a great drummer but ever since he joined thier music is going downhill and you have to admit it it might have to do something with vagrant too when alkaline trio was with asian man records they were really good. I think when they dropped glenn porter for mike flumme or something like that they went downhill. Noone likes alklaine trio more than me and while i enjoy crimson it just doesnt cut it for alkaline trio if they went back to asian man records it would be a godsend

this is my favorite band, i wear 2 tattoes of them,the heart and sundials
this albums good,but not excellent as a long time fan,mine fav is still there self title album...
altho i find it betta than good mourning,but..its a far cry from the asian man days,and the single time to waste, is good...but is it ne private eye or goodbye 4eva good?there the questions i ask....it also shits me to tears that ppl clam to b a fan n only no there past 2 album...wake the fuck up to urself u fakes!
all up its a fun album and ive given it a score it deserves

good stuff

I dl'd the leaked version, and I hated it. But then I bought the album for Time to Waste and I grew to like it. Its one of those "hate it then love it" cds.

Alk 3 is one of the best bands ever

Whoever thinks Alk3 sucks can kiss my ass

dan is hotttt too bitches!!!! Yeah...he might be bald...but his voice always sounds good live and he is way more consistent! Skiba has an awesome voice but sometimes he sings like ass!

SKIBA IS SO SEXY!!!!

Amanda

Skiba is damn sexy.. very damn sexy!

I am damn sexy!

you got that right saying skiba is damn sexy and this has been one of my favorite albums since it came out and my sister has got me hooked on them and how hot matt and derek are ...............oh and also how good their music is.....

Skiba is damn sexy!!!

You people are insane. I just listened to this album and it fucking blows. It's too bad, too. This used to be a damned fine band.

I heard to Skiba was doing a heavy dose of steriods up until the recording of crimson to beef up his voice a little! Man..it must be true, i saw them live recently and skiba was ripped!

skiba andriano porter = genius
skiba andriano felumlee = still genius
skiba andriano grant = ruined

whoever said matt was a cokehead fuck you!!!!

why does everyone have to say that dan is such a crappy singer or that he is a baby and lets matt do all the singing?HELLO?he's a backup singer.....pretty good too. although i would like it if derek sang more {he has a small singing part in BACK TO HELL}anyway that album is really good even though from here to infirmary and good mourning were a little bit better.their songs really make me thing hard....you know thrice use to be my favorite band until crimson came out and i heard the song time to waste.then i got the cd and GOD i can't think about anything else except how great them are and how HOT matt skiba and derek grant are.sorry dan your bald......derek i like your style.........matt stop breaking you arm........i will love alkaline trio til' i die and matt and derek!!!!

alkaline trio is a really great band and i think this cd is really good but i still like good mourning the best.it comes in at a close second.also matt skiba is really HOT!!!

I thought the part where skiba rapped was great! They should go full on R n B in the future!

Reviews are stupid. It's all the author's opinion. If we could somehow kill everyone that used opinion and keep everyone that told exactly, or as close as humanly possilbe, how the music was we'd be fine. Then everyone would know,. from the review, if they would enjoy the CD. Does it make sense for someone who likes Yellowcard or Senses Fail or Fall Silent to review Alkaline Trio? (:As an example: Fuck off with the accusing me of accusing you stereotype). I realize it's impossiible to tell it how it is and let the people judge, but what would life be without something to strive for?

I respect everyone's opinion but as a long time Alkaline Trio fan I must say that the imagery they produce with their lyrics is their selling point. I have only heard the first track off their new album, which I will buy when I have to stop paying bills, but "shakin like a dog shittin razor blades" and the style with which it is said deserves more than being used in the low end of a comparison.

i thought this album was going to suck since I wasn't a big fan of there other vagrant releases but the BYO split influenced me to pick it up...good shit, if i had to rank their albums:
Goddamnit
S/T
Crimson
Maybe Ill Catch fire
good mourning
from here to infirmary

Very good cd. fresh and interesting. The voice octive thing is pretty cool.
its a perfect balance of fast and light.
Highly recomended...

I agree with the previous comment. Good mourning was a sweet album. Everyone seems to rip on it but i thought it was kinda raw and more punk...especially compared to crimson. There are some awesome punk songs on good mourning....fatally yours, donner party, continental..... Sure skiba's voice was raspy and perhaps overproduced to compensate for this...but as a whole good mourning was much less produced than crimson. I have to really like crimson after a few weeks but when i put in good mourning or FHTI they really rock in comparison. The song your neck has really grown on me...its kinda like a modern misfits song.

Nice review. It's hard to rate this album, though. It's not their best but I can't call it their worst.

Also, I must be the only one in this world who thinks that Good Mourning was not their worst album. In fact, it's one of my absolute favorites. The anti-Good Mourning bandwagon really has no basis in real life and is basically false. It's better than Crimson for the most part.

Here is the deal with their older stuff:

It was original, it was fun and it was pretty fast.

However, the truth is, it was pretty bad at times. The vocals weren't very good and they lyrics often seemed forced and sort of stupid. Granted, I love and own all of their records. But their last few albums make up for their lack of "punk" ness ( or whatever you fools call it) of previous records with great melodies, much improved vocals and pretty awesome lyrics, not to mention memorable music. It's not called selling-out, it's called change. It happens and you have to get used to it. Some bands become terrible and some are just good because of who they are. Alkaline Trio belongs in the second group.

This album is overproduced compared to earlier efforts, but I have yet to regret purchasing an Alkaline Trio album and I still believe that they have gotten better with time. Not everyone stays perfect forever. So far, these guys have done a great job.

Although I sort of wish they would do away with the makeup.

this is their worst album... aka... even if you here resemblances of their old albums they are just ripping themselves off.... they need to go back to their old producer
best ever was the hwm split, the sound was simply amazing and the songwriting was ak3 at their peak...

p.s. matrix reloaded was awesome, revolutions was the one that bit

I have to say while this isn't "maybe i'll catch fire" this album is great, it really shows how they've grown up and how even with the change of musical stylings the lyrics remain dark with most songs. I think that's what this band origionally set out to do is to take really dark shit and scream it in a light way (IE: radio, stupid kid, this could be love, continental, prevent this tradgedy, and mercy me) and as for someone in here saying "there's no way they can reproduce the effects in concert" i can recreate them on a 120 dollar amp and i know they can because i saw them the opening night of their tour and i was even shocked when they played burn and it sounded so much like the album version, and in closing this album may not be their best but it is at least in the top 3 for me, and i think this album is proof that punks grow up fall in love and fall apart just like everyone.

list them**

wtf, why did i put listen...

ok...so this is how i feel...im not just gonna listen them...gotta backup your reasons..so thats what im gonna do..and now that i try to rank the cds, i really cant, so im just gonna show my opinion per cd

Goddamnit...got some classics, begins to show who alkaline trio really is and what they will become

Maybe I'll Catch Fire-great cd, loved madam me and radio, songs kinda blend in, but at the same time..their is also standouts...a 7-8.5/10

Self titled-meh, didnt like this that much, had a few good songs, and held some classics, just didnt like it all that much...

FHTI-id say half the songs were fucking insane, half were decent, private eye, mr chainsaw, take lots, stupid kid, bloodied up, im dieing tomorrow, trucks and trains and crawl were my favorites, they also had some poppy songs kinda in there, didnt like them but still stayed true

GM-love this album, from the opening guitar, this could be love, continental, and such were good songs, all around it was good, but still was missing something

Crimson-what they missed in GM was made up on this album, i regret that it is slow, BUT both of them got better lyrically, seems dan went a bit higher in his range, which was good and bad at points, but w.e, the lyrics were quite amazing/impressive. The cd was reminiscent of both the older alkaline and the newer alkaline

k,thx,bai

I came back here to say fuck all of you who are all like "Yeah this is shit because its not like their old stuff" or " They used special effects and that means they arent punk so i dont like them...haha I'm punk these faggits are retarded"

Go shit yourself or something you assholes. Alkaline Trio rocks and this cd rocks. Fuckl you fuck you fuck you fuck off you fucking loads of shit. Wow, some of the people on this site are so stupid

P.S. Good Review

Alkaline Trios my favorite band. Always will be. I love everything including olkd and new. The only album i dont have is Maybe I'll Catch Fire but i still have heard pretty much everything on it. Well I've spoken my part. I love it all

1. Goddamnit
2. S/T
3. Maybe I'll Catch Fire
4-6. Doesn't matter, none of them touch the first three.

The end.

-Scott

good mourning was over-produced, but it was still very good.

crimson is over-produced, but it is still the fucking shit.

it has taken a while for me to accept the relatively strict partitioning of dan and matt between each song in their old records. hearing more dueling vocals on crimson is the fucking shit.

if you consider crimson on its own merits, it's great. compared to the other alkaline trio releases, well...oh who cares.

this review is OK. comparing movie trilogies with anything besides other than movie trilogies isn't cool though.

matrix reloaded sucked ass.

who the hell wrote yoda's dialogue in revenge of the sith!?

i'm getting a new car next week b/c some asshole rear ended me and wrecked a car i kinda wanted to keep for a while.

holy shit.."fall victim" is a great song.

i think that's all i have to say. buhbye.

I hear you man...in reference to the guy before me. I'm starting to like this cd the more i listen to it and i do really like alkaline trio but this cd is just toooooo soft and processed. There is no way it will sound like this live with all these vocal effects. There are some really good songs on hear but it pails in comparison to the other releases in my opinion. Good mourning was way better i thought...at least it rocks and is less poppy. Back to hell is awesome, your neck is cool, mercy me is sweet, but burn sounds like nine inch nails!

goddamn, there is just NO flow to this record at all. i'm really disappointed. burn is probably the worst song they've ever recorded, and the production makes me feel like i'm listening to this through a wall. far too dreamy. and dan sounds like a ghost - way too much echo. it's killing me that the "old" alkaline trio is definately gone for good. sigh.

Does anyone remember when derek played with the suicide machines and tore mad shit up with his drumming. He was insane. I haven't seen any of that tenacity on this or good mourning. Still solid, but not the derek grant that blew me away in S.M. or telegraph. Album is weak, but definitely listenable.

I would totally blow Matt Skiba!

this review sucks.....a trilogy????? this would be the return of the jedi, episode 6. so in turn you are calling goddammit fucking phantom menace, you are a fucking turd sandwich. this is a great dics. you either like a band or you don't. i hate music elitists. get a life find something original to listen to. this disc is great, something totally new that sounds familiar, the alkaline trio are freaking geniuses. get over it. this band is fan-fucking-tastic.

"Right now, i don't need a blow job, a massage, or Jessica Alba licking my ears. What I really need, is another ranking of Alkaline Trio albums. That would really tickle my fancy."

oh how i feel your pain, brotha.

1)from here to infirmary
2)goddamnit
3)crimson
4)maybe i'll catch fire
5)s/t
6)good mourning
...hwm split is decent, byo split is forgettable...but im not ranking those with the full lengths.

Right now, i don't need a blow job, a massage, or Jessica Alba licking my ears. What I really need, is another ranking of Alkaline Trio albums. That would really tickle my fancy.

"from here to infirmary is shit so don't go saying its good cos it only has about 3 good songs on it"

Hmmm.....well spoken. Actually, most A3 fans would agree that Infirmary is twice the album Good Mourning is. It is also better than Crimson.

Here is the true order from best to worst:
Goddamnit
S/T
HWM split (only three tracks, but three of their best)
From Here To Infirmary
Crimson
BYO Split
Maybe I'll Catch Fire
Good Mourning

This isn't a knock on Good Mourning. I like all their work, but to me Good Mourning just lacked the creativity and originality of the others.

The drummer looks extremely clockwork-orange-esque. Methinks he's bound to bugger the lovely devotchka in the background. The pictures in the cover are postively horrorshow.

I'm a dork.

I agree that Dans vocals are too produced on crimson...or too many effects or something. Ohhh...and people always bust on his songs on good mourning as being too happy compared to skiba...which maybe true...but the songs on crimson arent exactly dark...the are just as poppy! Actually...the entire record sounds very poppy despite the dark lyrics which i guess is kinda their nich. I thought good mourning sounds much darker and heavier...more songs in minor keys and his scrachy voice adds to the dark sound.

i prefer skiba to dan too, but I think dans songwriting has VASTLY improved since goddammit, and I do think they balance out nicely and compliment e/o

his shit on goddammit is just whiney and stupid and his voice used to be so out of key and terrible. 'this is getting over you' is painful on the s/t. horrible vocals.

his 2 songs on the OMA split were great, whatever track 2 was called was probably his best song to date

'i was a prayer' and 'the poison' are both phenomenal on here, better than any of his songs on good mouring save maybe track 11, whatever that one was called

paul

dan always sounds like a big fat baby let matt sing all the songs and id like this band alot more

1.self-titled
2.from here to infarmary
3.maybe ill catch fire
4.gd
5.crimson
6.good mourning

this album is pretty fucking good and better than any other band could do but whats with all the slating of good mourning? that album was fucking great. that and goddamnit are the best two albums they've done. from here to infirmary is shit so don't go saying its good cos it only has about 3 good songs on it

its not the way dan's singing its the production, too much compression or some shit

i have a problem with how dan sings on his songs on Crimson. it is really hard to understand what he is saying.

i love this cd though

The HWM/AK3 split is one of the coolest cds I ever heard in my life.

In fact HWM did Radio and Bleeder better than Alkaline Trio ever could, imo, on that disc.

I'd rank it at the top of my list.

"i have never understood how anyone could possibly think Goddamnit is their best album. both musically and lyrically, it is far inferior to the band's past 3 efforts. it just doesnt compare. "

Your the guy who actually buys sammy hagar records.

wyzo

you guys know that avocado and guacamole is like cocaine and the bands you listen to.

Maybe for the youngens on this website it is shocking, but you'd be better off to realize most bands are comprised of assholes, and drugs are everywhere.

Music doesn't make you a good person, selling a good person is easier though, as long as you have just enough anti-establishment attitude to market.

Not doing drugs, or doing them doesn't mean you good/bad.

But doing drugs, then coming out of your tour bus to find young female fans, and then saying you do it for the 'kids', thats bad. Gene Simmons bad.

Incidentally, despite their vagrant years making me nod off, I actually dig this record very much. Nice job.

wyzo

I made a list earlier but didnt include any of the splits or EPs because they are not full length albums. But fucking A...how can you go wrong with my friend peter....thats a classic tune as well as goodbye forever. The Hot water music split rocks ass too...some of my all time fav songs.....better than any of the new stuff in my opinion.

In defense of the trio, i was at conan that night and they sounded awesome, but when i watched on tv they sounded like shit. I guess you gotta be there when it comes to tv appearences.

"Skiba's been a coke head for a while now, but I don't think hes ever looked this bad."

I saw him the day before the performance. Looked fine. It was make up.

And, where do you get the info that he's a coke head? People always say this and yet I've never heard anything about it with proof that it's true.

Skiba's been a coke head for a while now, but I don't think hes ever looked this bad.

Everyone and there fucking lists...what about the HWM split? how come no one included that shit! The best 2 trio songs queen of pain and while your waiting..fucking get with it bull dykes

i have never understood how anyone could possibly think Goddamnit is their best album.
both musically and lyrically, it is far inferior to the band's past 3 efforts. it just doesnt compare.

anyway, this album is amazing.

Dude, Rich Harden, Vlad, K-Rod, Mark Loretta, Erik Bedard, and still no Guillermo Mota. My team has taken a fucking beating.

On the positive side Nick Johnson, Brett Myers and Cliff Floyd helped ease the pain. And now Thome is back. I could pull this off.

my ranking of alk3 albums

1. good mourning
2. maybe i'll catch fire
3. byo split
4. crimson
5. goddamnit
6. s/t

matt's pale because he's a fuckin' cokehead man

if i had to rank them..

1. self-titled (even though some of the really early stuff isnt so hot, the 2 EPs and "my friend peter" blow everything else away)

2. goddamnit (only one bad song "cop", the rest is great and fun and well-written and hints at being dark without going overboard)

3. good mourning (more dan songs than usual and thats a good thing to me. the return of fun songs. i wish they'd included the full band version of "blue in the face", though)

4. from here to infirmary (half good songs half bad songs. terrible artwork and sometimes good, sometimes awful lyrics)

5. maybe i'll catch fire (the dan songs are the only ones i can listen to. matt's lyrics read like a 5th grader wrote them. this record is bullshit)

6. crimson (worse than bullshit)

Down below I forgot Goddamnit.......put that inbetween the split and the self titled.

My ranking of their best cd's:

1. Crimson........far and away the best.
2. Good Mourning
3. From Here to Infirmary
4. BYO split.......songs 2 and 3 are outstanding.
5. Self Titled
6. Maybe I'll catch fire........this is far and away the worst.

skiba's voice is hit or miss live

at warped tour 2002 he sounded incredible

at their show in the fall he sounded like ass

paul

The more i listen the stronger the album is. 1 and 4 are incredibly catchy. Sadie is awesome, and 10 and 13 are incredible. It's just well-balanced with the catchy rockers at the beginning and the synth-drenched almost ballads at the end, and a bunch of solid filler (not in a bad way) in between. I still like S/T and Goddamnit better, but this is such a different band now that its hard to compare them.

"What the fuck is up with Skiba? His face was so pale, tight and thin, plus with all that make up all he needed was a long black wig and would've looked exactly like Michael Jackson. Fucking creepy!"

-HA i noticed that too, i think he had more makeup on than Conan...and thats saying alot.

I saw them on Conan last night too. It was really awful. I was sitting in my living room in shock at how weak Skiba's voice sounded. It could have been the set-up on the show but either way it was a horrible performance.
It really makes you realize how produced his vocals are on Crimson.

Did anybody see them on Conan last night? They sounded pretty horrible but I guess I wasn't really expecting anything better.

What the fuck is up with Skiba? His face was so pale, tight and thin, plus with all that make up all he needed was a long black wig and would've looked exactly like Michael Jackson. Fucking creepy!

i saw matt skiba having sex with a dog. i won't ever play into this band again, in fact anyone want to buy my two old cd's for like a dollar S/H? I have goddamnit and maybe i'll catch fire, excellent condition cuz i never listen to this garbage i kind of just aquired it.

OK I lied, i used to like those CDs but still. 50 cents.

I think Matt's vocals on Good Mourning were awesome! Although they were "scratchy" they really added a raw element to a very produced album. His voice has always been a little scratchy and on Good Mourning they chose to bring that out.

Catch Fire's the only one I'd buy again if my collection got stolen.

OC

i have goddammit last because of the context of which i got the alk3 albums

i got FHTI first...so its my fav, i mean its what hooked me on them

i got goddammit last, maybe even after good mourning! so it just sounded so primitative. i busted out laughing hearing 'cop' for the first time and that acoustic dan song is just god awful. granted, if i had gotten it first or second my opinnion might differ, but i really only like 3 songs on there...its just too simplistic and immature and raw. its like listening to nofx 'punk in drublic' first then hearing 'ribbed' last...its just god awful, classic album or not.

paul

after about the 7th listen or so it grows on you..the strenghty of skiba's voice and the new ground they broke in the songwriting really makes it outshine 'mourning'

good mourning was jjust FHTI part 2 w/ shitty vocals, and dan singing lvoe songs that fucked w/ the flow and feel of skiba's dark songs

paul

I can't stop listening to "Burn."

goddammit
singles collection
from here to infirmary
maybe I'll catch fire
good mourning
crimson

I've only heard crimson twice all the way through.. maybe it'll grow on me

1. From here to infirmary
2. Maybe I'll catch fire
3. Good Mourning (despite scratcy vocals)
4. Goddammit
5. Crimson (Maybe in a month i would put crimson higher?)

Back to hell is the best song on crimson...your neck has grown on me too

Back to Hell is awesome. i cant get that song out of my head

Godammit last?

Wow.

eh...

1.from here to infirmiry
2.crimson
3.good mourning
4.singles collection
5.maybe i'll catch fire
6.goddammit

i can dodge any rocks you throw!

paul

hey sciulli, i agree w/ you 100% on those 2 songs, definately 2 duds and settle for satin is the worst song on the new one

paul

overall, this is a great album though, and definately the biggest departure from their sound...its light years different. i'm staying on for the ride, but i can see a lot of old school trio fans getting off right about now. and not sexually.

oh, and Burn is fucking awesome.

Just picked this up today. LIstened to it about 4 times through. I'll probably listen to it some more tomorrow...hell, this one is going to be in the CD play for a while. It really is a fantastic album.

Gob is my favorite character on Arrested Development.

i really want to like this. but i just can't.

when you think about it, the older material is probably more radio friendly than this stuff (Maybe Ill Catch Fire is about as hook filled as you can get)

I don't know what it is, but "Settle For Satin" just rubs me the wrong way. It may be the only Trio song I don't like (actually, "Donner Party" from Good Mourning isn't that great).

uhhh...actually it is different. But it is good i think.

mellow little kiddies...it's no different than any of their previous albums...they continue a stellar run

hey if anyone cares, punkrockvids.com just posted "mercy me" from alkaline trio's "secret acoustic show" in london.

i'm now a believer that matt's voice has come back.

Hey Rawls:

""Wookie," whether singular or plural, is a species not a proper noun. We don't capitalize apes or giraffes or spiders, do we?"

Can we compare Wookies to spiders? I dunno. Do we not capitalize Earthly ethnic groups like the Magyar or the Teutons or the Choctaw? We sure do! I've used two different spellcheckers and both capitalize Martian, so there we have it. From now on, Rodian, Twi'Lek, and all other galactic races shall hereby be proper nouns!

Yo ElVaq:

"Road Warrior was the only one in the Mad Max trilogy worth watching at all. Go watch Death Race 2000, it's better than all three combined."

Stay your tongue, infidel! Say what you want about Thunderdome, it wasn't terrific, but it did have the dude from Rose Tattoo. The first Mad Max however is not only one of, if not THE, punkest movie of all-time, it was also a cinematic milestone. I read something that it was the most profitable movie ever made. Meaning, they spent like a 100K to make it, and it grossed like 50 million. Pretty impressive for an indie film with a lot of nasty scenes. All that changed when Blair Witch came out though, cuz that thing cost 25 bucks to make, but that's neither here nor there. The moral of the story is, the first Mad Max was both amazing and hugely influential.

I agree with you that the Road Warrior is the best of the three...

Everyone seems to dislike from here to infirmary. I thought it was a very good cd...actually its always been my favorite. I love bands like NO use, lagwagaon, face to face and so on...and From here to infirmary is the most similar to that style in my opinion. Songs like Mr. chainsaw, take lots with alcohol, and armageddon are awesome melodic punk songs that are reminicient of classic punk like the misfits, damned, ramones and the like. The song crawl is one of their best with great lyrics, raw, emotional and hard driving. Sure stupid kid is really poppy but overall that record rocks with loud guitars and a basic and raw kind of recording quality. I really like the earlier stuff as well but its more emoish...and i do apologize for using that term.

"Not as good as the first 3 albums."

Are you counting the singles collection? If so, I agree, but I think this is definately the best thing they've done since signing to Vagrant (well, this and "Warbrain").

1. Maybe I'll Catch Fire
2. Crimson
-singles collection
3. Goddamnit!
4. From Here to Infirmary
5. Alkaline Trio S/T
6. Hot Water Music split
7. Good Mourning
8. One Man Army split

you were close...but the singles...wow

I wish there was a view counter, I want to know if this or The Mars Volta's new album review has been bitched about more.

Views
Swisher was hitting only .218 before the injury and likely won't be an everyday player immediately upon his return. Bobby Kielty has finally found his groove at the plate and appears to be over his rib injury, so most of Nick's playing time will come in left field. His fantasy value will be on the rise if the trade rumors surrounding Eric Byrnes come to fruition and he is sent out of town.

Th guy acouple post down who ranked the albums is fuckin right on.

Oh yeha.....does anyone know where to get an advance of No Use's new CD??

best albums:

1. Maybe I'll Catch Fire
2. Crimson
3. Goddamnit!
4. From Here to Infirmary
5. Alkaline Trio S/T
6. Hot Water Music split
7. Good Mourning
8. One Man Army split

Best Alk3 album yet next to Maybe I'll Catch Fire

The only French Connection that mattered was Rene Robert, Gilbert Perreault, and Richard Martin.

Viva la Sabres!

The French Connection II is better!!!

Its getting better the more I listen to it...i figured that would happen. Matts voice is awesome just maybe too much vocal layering on EVERY chorus. And I am not sure why everyone of Dans vocals has to have all those effects on them...it sounds like a flanger or chorus effect for those who play guitar....people always rip on his voice but i always thought it was pretty cool. Prevent this tragedy is a pretty good song once you get past the synth intro. My least fav track is burn...its very catchy but i does kinda remind me of linkin park as someone said earlier.

Not as good as the first 3 albums.

The voiceover on "Sadie" is glaringly atrocious. It's awfulness is worth commenting on as it is the single worst aspect of an album I have heard in years.

Record isn't really anything special, but maybe it'll grow on me. What kills me is the layering/effects on the vocals on almost every track; I hate that shit.

yea man, i'm not saying its necessarily the age thing, but i think its more of where they are in life, just not depressed anymore. dan's married, matt's engaged, i heard matt has really toned down his party/drug/drinking life, theyv'e become successful, makin money, etc.

paul

and derek's drumming is kinda boring on here, but its what he wants to do

his best was still in the suicide machines : )

Derrek's drumming sucks on this record, and he's one of my three favorite drummers around today. He has so much more talent than is displayed on Crimson, just look at the Alkaline Trio's DVD.

Getting older does not equal slowing down or becoming less edgy. I realize that as musicians they want to experiment as playing the same style must get old from their perspective. I just whish more of the songs were a little harder with more emphasis on loud punk style chainsaw riffs like on basically every other record they have recorded...i guess thats just one of the qualities i have always liked about them. And just because you're approaching 30 does not mean you have to start listening to the postal service and the killers and all that indie 80s sounding music. I'm 29 and I still prefer punk such as social D, face to face, misfits and nofx...i guess i am immature.

The art work is trash. GREAT ALBUM! Shitty photography. The lyric booklet is thick, but their is nothing to it. I don't mind the album cover, but the rest of the artwork can hit the road...

I too have gotta give props to Temple of Doom. It wasn't great when it first came out, but it's certainly gotten much better with age! Classic 80s flick, despite some annoying chracters.

For fuck's sake... they ripped a guys heart out!!!

this record blows
this is their worst and most blatant attempt at being "dark" and "epic" and it fails miserably. the guitar riffs are reminiscent of corny metal. the piano intro is terribly unnecessary and lame. the lyrics are also terrible, but they've been terrible since maybe i'll catch fire.

what happened to the great, fun band that wrote goddamnit and the EPs? i want them back

yea, i see your point, i too commented earlier that i think they get a little too caught up in their 'dark' image and lyrics but the problem is, the sheer awesomeness of their old lyrics came from how fucking angry they were. skiba is like engaged, has money, probably a decent place, gets steady ass, drinks wine, turns 30 soon....its just not the same, i do like their old lyrics better, and i do think the music is better than the lyrics on this album, but its still a progression from good mourning and i think its as solid of a 6th alk3 album that i could expect. most bands don't even make a 5th album.

paul

and those of you asking why its missing the 'punk edge' or its edgyness or 3 chords and breakneck speeds

its cuz they aren't 21 anymore. they're late 20's, whats skiba, 29 now? i mean people change, music preferences, attitudes etc, especially in their 20's. shit i'm 25 and i'm TOTALLY different than i was 5 years ago, in terms of what i listen too (well theres some overlap, but i'm not nearly as into skate punk/epitaph punk type stuff than i was back in 99-2000) and some shit i listen to , like the postal service, i wouldnt even have touched 5 years ago.

paul

Me again.
Also, "I was a prayer" is very good. In fact, I don't have a big problem with any of Dan's songs. Poison is one of my favorites of his.

That was me right above Paul. I'd like to clarify, I don't think most of the lyrics are silly. There are just an abnormal (for the Trio) number of subpar lyrics.

See, some of us care about intelligence and thought going into our music. Music is equally important, I'm just attacking the lyrics on this album because it is far more musically sound than lyrically sound.
Similarly, I can't like a band just for the lyrics if the music is bad. They're BOTH important.

silly lyrics? anyone who thinks the lyrics to 'i was a prayer' are silly is a fucking pretentious (theres the word we all love) piece of shit. fuck you. hanson has silly lyrics dickbag.

paul

Fuck the lyrics, listen to the music. I'm sick of all these people who are into all this lyrical quality shit. Alklaline Trio has sillly lyrics but they play great music.

Great band, good album, poor album art.

not to be an ass, but i believe you meant thinking. maybe you and skiba were on the same page.

Actually, i've been told there are subtle differences between minor typos and singing poor lines. Maybe the same book, but most definetly different pages.

Just because it's better than Good Mourning doesn't make it good. It's good mourning with shitty synth parts.

Anyone remember when Alkaline Trio had cool lyrics with hints of dark imagry and not just really corny "dark" lyrics? I also hate the slick production of all of their vagrant albums. Meh. I used to love Alk3 but this isn't cutting it at all.

"Worst lyric EVER:

"I'm lost at sea you see"

I'm not quite sure what he was think, but i keep cringing when i hear that line."

not to be an ass, but i believe you meant thinking. maybe you and skiba were on the same page.

Huh. I downloaded this on a whim (expecting it to suck), and was actually pleasantly surprised. I mean, it's not great, but every song is listenable.

I thought the song "your neck" was pretty bad when I first heard it, but after a few listens it grew on me and is actually kinda like a modern misfits song...like children in heat...but way more overproduced since the misfits sounded like they were recorded with a tape recorder. Overall crimson is a 7 out of 10.

polished production is for pussies, you stupid college boys

I too think its a bit overproduced and I guess that makes me gay for thinking that. I still like the record and actually dont mind the lyrics or the actual songs and shit. There just seems to be less edge and less of a punk rock sound to it. I guess thats not a bad thing to everyone. The reason I 1st got into the trio was for their 3 chord, loud guitar sound...i feel that sound is almost gone from this album. I have always like pop or melodic punk like face to face and No Use but alks new cd is much more poppy..ohh well. Its still worth getting i think.

Worst lyric EVER:

"I'm lost at sea you see"

I'm not quite sure what he was think, but i keep cringing when i hear that line.

and to the dude below me, i actually think the 'drive yourself insane' line in mercy me is one of the best in the album

i do think they get a little caught up in their image and lyrics kinda like afi do, but its still great. derek looks like he really is loving being in this band though haha.

paul

great album. they've grown more since 'good mourning' than they have between any other 2 albums. very different. much more dramatic, slower, more songwriting effort. really, the core sound is there, but this is a VERY different trio than the one that released 'from here to infirmiry'. the lyrical content is still clever and dark, but it is more abstract and the drinking references are gone (this bums me out, but they're being honest...as they near their 30's and get married i'm glad to see they aren't early 20's depressed boozehounds anymore).

some of it sounds liek classic trio...i think 'mercy me' or 'back to hell' have a classic feel to them, while 'burn' and 'smoke' sound nothing like anything they've done before and niether song could be construed as having a 'punk' soudn at all. the drum beats are much more varied througout the album. not everysong just drives that punk pace out of the gate, a lot of slower tempo's and time changes are used.

'good mourning' was really just 'from here to infirmiry' but weaker...no real evolution, this album sounds like it had a lot more effort put into it. its also nice to not hear Dan singing his love songs that seemed to fuck w/ the flow of 'good mourning' so much. i mean one minute w/ had skiba talking about being 'fatally yours' then we get dan doing a few numbers about how in love he is...that was just not them, it was dan writing dan songs, now he's back to writing trio songs...ambigoous and dark.

paul

Nobody said the Blink-182 album was overproduced because there's a difference between produced well and overproduced. Blink-182 is far poppier and wrote songs that fit that production better.
And everybody makes comments about production these days because we're finally at the point where bands on labels can afford to make the album sound exactly like they want to. Therefore, if the production is bad, it's a choice that was made, not an inevitably due to the cost of good recording.
And why has noone commented on the fact that these are the worst lyrics the Trio has ever written? "Drive yourself insane tonight, it's not that far away, and I just filled up your tank earlier today"? "You live and you burn"? The entirety of "Your Neck"? Spelling Deathbed as "Dethbed"?
Or the fact that "Burn" sounds like a Linkin Park song.
Nonetheless, I enjoy this album. Just saying, it's not up to par, especially after the phenomenal split EP.

March of the wooden soldiers
C-cypher punks couldn't hold us
A thousand men rushin in
Not one nigga was sober
Perpendicular to the square
We stand bold like flare
Escape from your dragon's lair, in particular
My beats travel like a vortex, through your spine
to the top of your cerebrum cortex
Make you feel like you bust a nut from raw sex

RZA owns you.

The production is a big part of an album, its the difference between songs recorded, and songs performed live, you ignorant, retarded fuck.

-sickboi

(and don't talk shit on the RZA)

hey i'm just commenting on the production of the vocals because i think they sound shit. why would i comment on the production 'just to be cool'?

oh yeah, fuck you too.

I love how everyone feels the need to comment on production these days. is that the cool thing to do? is everyone the fucking RZA all of a sudden. fuck anyone who makes a comment on production. you're ghey.

"because in my opinion if they can pull it off live then how is it overproduced"

...because the vocals dont even sound real. they sound too perfect and soft and electronic.

i just picked this up and i am actually suprised at how good it is. i wasnt expecting it to be that special after good mourning didnt make me feel it was special. this is a really solid album in my view. it doesnt hold a candle to maybe ill catch fire or goddammit! but id reccomend it anyway.

After the byo split with one man army, i thought i would give this a chance.... Not bad... Nothing groundbreaking by any means but a good pick up-oldpunker-

Nope. No one has ever said that.

i'm sure this has been said a million times before but bands change. you have to look at this release seperately from their asian man work (which WAS amazing) and know that this is now their third record (it's been five years?) since they did their first vagrant release. bands can change a lot in five years. however it's still alkaline, unfortunately the super corny-yet extremely personal feel from their early stuff isn't going to work the same as it used to. so they have to change it up a little bit. the term "over-produced" is so fucking tired to me. again, you're all saying this is overproduced compared to a release five years old. for some bands this record would be considered bland in the realm of production. i'm going to wait till i see some of the new stuff live before i say if it's overproduced, because in my opinion if they can pull it off live then how is it overproduced? you can only just record guitars, bass, drums and vocals for so long. most of the piano work on here is pretty good and the strings are a nice touch. nobody was giving the last blink-182 record shit about being overproduced. or maybe they were. i don't really care, this is a GOOD release.

i love sadie for the record. that song is fucking gorgeous.

y'know, I really wanted to like this album. But seriously, I couldn't find a single thing on the entire thing that was remotely interesting, innovative, or even new. It's just really, really boring. It's like Alk3 said, "Oh, we need to make a new album, don't we..." and just shrugged and out popped Crimson.

boring.
-TOBB

Some fairly decent songs, but the production is retarded. Someone tell Jerry Finn to leave this band alone.

this album is so boring. and the vocals are sooooooooooo over-produced. one of the best things about their old albums is the sound of their voices. now it sounds like they've been passed through about 50 vocal filters.

"that's supposed to say
6) One Man Army BYO Split"

What about the HWM split? I know it's only three songs, but three of their best IMO.

i hate goth punk bands like these flakes and AFI. go away, away i tell you

When you read all these comments about how good this record is, you realize most people on this site don't know anything about music.

that's supposed to say

6) One Man Army BYO Split

1) Goddamnit (best cd of all time in my opinion)
2) Crimson
3) Self Titled
4) Maybe I'll Catch Fire
5) From Here To Infirmary
6) One Man Army
7) Good Mourning

In my not so humble opinion:

Raiders > Temple Of Doom > Last Crusade
Empire > New Hope > Jedi
Matrix > Reloaded > Revolutions
Good Mourning > Crimson > Infirmary

another victory for the undead.

this album is pretty good. I purchased it and will probably like it more as time goes on but i am a bit dissapointed. Alkaline trio is my fav band and i realize no matter what they do some fans will not like it. I think the problem is with the producer...Jerry Finn. I like the songs, the lyrics, and Matt's voice sounds great. I think the record sounds a little too soft due to too much vocal harmonies and effects, the guitars have been lowered in the mix making it seem less punk, the addition of lead guitar is kinda cool but its on like every song sometimes making the songs less edgy, and the whole keyboard thing...not sure about that. Overall its good though...a bit of an experiment for them...which as musicians i'm sure they need to keep it interesting. I whish I could take all of these songs and mix them the way From here to infirmary was mixed....More guitar, less glossy overdone choruses, and less keyboard. Ohh...and i think Good mourning was a pretty good cd too...the only thing that hurt it was Matts vocal problems. If they recorded the songs now with his current vocals it would be a great cd in my opinion.

A number of things need to be addressed:

"wookies should be capitalized, no?"
- "Wookie," whether singular or plural, is a species not a proper noun. We don't capitalize apes or giraffes or spiders, do we?

- Love the album, and aside from the standard fodder, the board banter has been equally as good. At one point, though, some suicidal tried to drag us all into a "This is punk and that is not punk" intellect drainer. He was quickly put in his place, though, and kudos to whomever jumped on that landmine.

Finally, "Views: Boone's average is as depressing as the fact Ashlee Simpson can earn a living as an entertainer. His other offensive numbers and the fact he may be eligible as a second baseman means he has some value in some AL-only leagues but not in combo ones."
- Actually -- no matter what type of league you play in and no matter where he qualifies -- if Aaron Boone is gonna make or break your fantasy team you are destined for the cellar. This guy might make my AAA fantasy team, if there was such a thing.
Quick, how many times has Boone scored or driven in more than 100 runs, had more than 160 hits, 280 total bases or hit over .295? Never. Nothing but goose eggs all around. By the way, his OBP this year is .215. Just the fact that you mentioned his name tells me that you must be an Indians fan. In the future, if you're gonna talk Boone, it better concern Ray, Bob or Bret.

Score is for the album. Thank you AK3. I hope I am as pleased with new No Use.

I wasn't too happy with this album when I first heard it, but as the days and weeks went by, I found myself having a hard time keeping it out of my headphones, car, computer, etc. "You grew on me Err!" This is a nice step forward, even if some of the songs feel more like trips in the right direction - "Burn" being the biggest one.

Next time - let's get more dual vocals and more songs from Dan - he has easily progressed into the better song writer of the two.

This album is fuckin' sexy. The best songs are "The Poison" and "Dethbed."

Fav band apart from Strung Out. I'm very happy with this, especially "Burn"

-Bemused-

stupid goth

Alkaline Trio sucks, but they're playing with Riddle of Steel in St. Louis. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. Riddle of Steel rocks!

"The Humungus" in Road Warrior is possibly the best movie villain ever.

"Just walk away..."

Since sequels / trilogies were mentioned in the review, here's something odd. The movie "Blue in the Face" is a sequel to the movie "Smoke," both starring Harvey Keitel. The names of the last songs on Alk3's past two albums are "Blue in the Face" and "Smoke" respectively. Coincidence...or conspiracy?

Oh, yeah - good album.

Worst review ever. Aubin's really missing the point I think, in my opinion. Of course there is no right answer. Personally, I don't know that this album is a masterpiece. It is quite good, definitely a departure for them, but done so really well. One pretty off-putting thing is the far overdone pseudo-dark lyrics and imagery we saw tastefully in other albums. Crimson is way too produced and poppy to be compared to Maybe I'll Catch Fire. Dan's songs on this album have gone way downhill, I find. The Poison especially. Matt's songs are all spot on. All in all, a pretty darn good album.

Anyone else notice the beginning of Burn sounding so similar to the beginning of that Good Charlotte song? 'Somethin isn't riiigghtt' or what have you.

Road Warrior was the only one in the Mad Max trilogy worth watching at all.

Go watch Death Race 2000, it's better than all three combined.

"People get too worked up over this band, on both sides of the spectrum, idiots."

ditto.

First of all, "wookies" should be capitalized, no? My biggest beef with this review is that the author overlooked the Mad Max trilogy. They're certainly more worthwhile than the Matrix movies.

Great record though...hell toupee, very funny.

this album is waay better than Good Mourning, but I don't think it had poor production at all....and yes, now that I think about it, the lyircs were rather "fratish"

i like alk 3's old stuff but my score is for their song on the radio, whats up with bands becoming mainstreem

loved the movie trilogy comparison.

thank god the trio's back.

Views: Boone's average is as depressing as the fact Ashlee Simpson can earn a living as an entertainer. His other offensive numbers and the fact he may be eligible as a second baseman means he has some value in some AL-only leagues but not in combo ones.

dan andriano's songs on maybe i'll catch fire are by far the worst alkaline trio songs in existence.

they added strings to sadie, slowed it down, and changed around some harmonies. dummy.

i dont know yet. im still a little warry about this one. i really like dethbed though, thats a catchy as hell song. i didnt like the way they threw sadie back into the mix though. they did nothing to change or "redo" the song like they said that they would, which upset me a tad. plus the fact that i need to give this my full attention. i also feel that finn is trying to drown out dan's vocals a little too much. just because he sings deep doesnt mean the guitars need to overplay him.

just like the recent weezer cds, if this band hadn't put out a couple amazing records to start their career then everyone would realize how shitty every thing they have done since has been.

The music is far from totally awful, but I'm so sick of these self-loathing bullshit lyrics that cry for some recognition as "deep".

-BSD

an eight

exactly what I would have given it

when i first saw the cover, I thought it was a Prince album.

"It seems that everyone cares way too much about being "punk" enough."

Virtually NO ONE has said anything about ALK3 being punk or not punk. Instead, most of the criticism posted has been based on the quality of the music.

The cd rocks, and that's that.
I have always loved the Trio since day one. Why does everyone get worked up about them...who knows, but overall, Crimson is a major progression regardless of the haters who don't like it.

People get too worked up over this band, on both sides of the spectrum, idiots.

Good Mourning > This album. Still good shit, regardless.

This CD fits in so well at Hot Topic, next to The Used and New Found Glory. Rock on, brothers.

Rock the pseudo-gothic images. Rock them. Rock them.

Boo.

"Worst cover art since Nelson's "After The Rain" album."

HaHa! At least it wasn't narcissistic with the band on the front... oh wait, that's the drummer. Nevermind.

"--I can't wait to download your album two months before its released too."

so true. i had decided this sucked back in february when it was still in demo form.

It seems that everyone cares way too much about being "punk" enough. It may be cool to hate on the trio, but theres nothing wrong with listening to music because it's fun. This record isnt monumental or groundbreaking, it's just fun.

"The thing that really bothers me about this record is that it seems like it is an attempt at becoming mainstream"

Wasn't it attempted a long time ago?

this is not a good album. anyone who said this was their best needs to be put away in prison because they obviously have no perception of right or wrong.

why would anyone pay for this when you can get music for *free* off the internet?

--I can't wait to download your album two months before its released too.

Worst cover art since Nelson's "After The Rain" album.

why would anyone pay for this when you can get music for *free* off the internet?

Still not sure what I think about this one. Definitely overproduced, but I don't think the production necessarily ruins it. "Mercy Me" and "Fall Victim" are among their best ever. Tracks like "Your Neck" and "Death Bed" are too poppy. The thing that really bothers me about this record is that it seems like it is an attempt at becoming mainstream.

And as for "Time To Waste," the intro is great and the chorus is great, but that opening line is AWFUL. "Blow you a kiss?" Did Skiba actually write that? What has happened to this guy......I think the teeny-bopper crowd is warping his mind.

This CD is no good. I'm a fan of most everything else Alk3 has done, but the weak lyrics and weak production really ruin this release. This album just sounds like a band that's run out of gas. It's very uninspired. It's also very campy. Not recommended.

what, these guys are still making rekkids? i cant believe it, they already lost it. i once liked, but now sounds like the same stuff.

These guys should have stopped after Maybe I'll catch fire.

I would have to say this is definitely Dan's weakest album with the Trio.

I just listened through once, and pretty damn solid. I think "Mercy Me" or "Saide" should be their next single.

Good Mourning was super-boring. This one's pretty easily the best record this band's ever made.

here's my score

incase anyone is confused, in the review he said reloaded was BAD, not the shit. and temple of doom is definitely not as good as the other two. that kid is truely annoying. as for this cd, i've had a burned copy for about a month now, if not more, and I like it a lot. it's infinitely less boring than Good Mourning. They experiment a little, but overall, it's just a good alk 3 release. really good. seriously, give it a chance. very few good records are instantly likeable.

Incredible? C'mon guys. Stop that shit. It's more like not credible. The songs I've heard off of this record make me think that Jerry Finn heard the new Killers record and called up the Alkaline Trio and said "you guys wanna make a record?"

Solid album, however, its gonna take something amazing (NMB - I'm looking at you) to take away my top spot from 7 Seconds right now.

-sickboi

Great review, but I disagree with your conclusions. ALK3 has been nothing better than a glorified singles band since they signed to Vagrant. While it's great to have a couple of really amazing songs per album, the lows keep getting lower (a little like their hit-or-miss live shows). While I look forward to a great "greatest hits" collection at some point, after listening to their latest I can't imagine buying another album.

OC

this is a good album, but I disagree with the good mourning bashing. Still, this is solid stuff

An upcoming cd will have to blow me off my feet to have this cd not be my CD OF THE YEAR!!!!

This is a wonderful album. Perfect mix of melodies that give you goosebumps with sing along choruses that get stuck in your head for months.

Mercy Me(song 4), song 10(forget the name) and Back to hell(song 11) are my favorites right now.

I was the one who wrote in an earlier topic that I had heard "Burn" and "Time to Waste" and was not impressed. Well the rest of the cd was much more than I had ever expected. A true A record.

while the goodness of movie sequals can be debated, i don't think there is any debate on this album.

all bands evolve and change. no one would want to listen to the trio if they sounded the same on every record. i saw them play in convington, kentucky a few weeks ago and they played some songs off of this album. they sounded AMAZING live. soooo good this band is and this release.

If you like Alkaline Trio, you will like this cd. This band has never put out a bad album. The only one that isn't that great is the one with cassette on the cover. Seriously this album is sooooooooo good.

By the way how the fuck is "The Empire Strikes Back" overrated?

Can i be up da punx too?
Me hates thees stof.

-Up da punx boi

Your Neck is an awful, awful song, but the rest is pretty damn good.

I was gonna buy this today but i'm gonna wait to see if they add extras tracks or something.

So apparently, I'm into pop now simply because I like this CD. This CD takes a couple of listens. It sort of grows on you slowly. But now I can't get enough.

i only liked a couple of songs, but overall this album is pretty bad.

Oh, and Aubin, I agree with your assessment of Temple Of Doom, Last Crusade, and Empire. However, a bad Indiana Jones is still watchable many times over. Can't say the same for the Trio.

Good review.

Bad CD.

Alkaline Trio sucks.

While I mostly agree with this review, the over-production and excessive number of studio effects really ruined this release for me. Thank god I had a month or two to let it settle before it actually came to release.

"Don't believe what most of the posts here say.
This album sucks."

Yeah, it does. Just look at the cover art.

Yeah, I thought this album was pretty mediocre when I first heard it, but it's really grown on me.

It's definitely the best album they've released on Vagrant.

I mean comparing sequels in cinema and record industry

The discussion about whether the sequel is good or not reminds me of Scream 2. I bet the reviewer saw it. By the way I don't see the point. Shitty review.

I personally hate how reviewers have to apologize for pop-punk to ease the anger of all the 'hardcore' readers. Sometimes in listening to an album don't think the entire way through, "why would I hate this album". Instead, try thinking, "Why would I like this album".

truth.

"When they started releasing manufactured dog vomit, I turned it off. And any deeper meaning you hear people discuss is complete bullsh@t. The gathered intelligence of these three men, melted down to a liquid form, couldn't fill a small condom. "

I love it when people who have absolutely no talent themselves try to talk like they are the smartest people alive both musically and intellectually and show no way to back that up. So what if you don't like it, you don't have to try to be a badass and question how smart the band is because they don't have the same taste in music as you do. I personally like Alkaline Trio and like this album, but if this was a review of a new Pennywise album or something that I don't like I wouldn't come on and say that they're retards or something. I just don't think that people should be impressed by people think they're better because they don't like "manufactured vomit" when in many ways all independent labels record pretty much the same way and nothing is much more manufactured than others.

With all that being said, I am the smartest man alive. Einstein ain't got shit on me.

Temple of Doom was awesome, Empire Strikes Back is way, WAY over-rated.

--Cos

I bet more people would of hated this if it was stil named "Chuch and destroy" or whatever.

And wind up the killilng machines, because here comes the war...

listening to it right now. it's quite good. infinitely better than good mourning, and has a few things on from here to infirmary. obviously anyone who's a fan of the goddamit/maybe i'll catch fire days will never truly get used to this kind of stuff but it's still good. i know because i think goddamit is the epitome of ass-kicking chicago pop-punk.

Don't believe what most of the posts here say.
This album doesn't suck.

Unlike most people, I have not been blinded by the idiocy that is Alkaline Trio. I used to be a fan (I bought a few CD's in the '90s), but Good Mourning completely lost me. I never forgave Alkaline Trio for that garbage, and this follow-up has nothing for me either.

When they started releasing manufactured dog vomit, I turned it off. And any deeper meaning you hear people discuss is complete bullsh@t. The gathered intelligence of these three men, melted down to a liquid form, couldn't fill a small condom.

This CD, like their last, is a total waste of time and money. Don't do it. Repeat: don't do it.

This is the first CD in a long time I managed to hold off on listening to and then bought on its release date. I figure if I did it with Good Mourning I could do it with this.

It seemed a bit white noise-y to me on first listen; it definitely seems like something that needs to grow on you. They're -- gasp! -- seemingly experimenting a bit in some tracks. And no, by experimenting, I don't mean some piano usage. But anyway, it does seem more complex in spots, which is pretty interesting in itself.

Why not mention the horribly funny lyrics and song titles?

I swear, Skiba and co. sat in front of a PC reading Live Journals and listening to Evanescence while writing for this album.

The guy a number of posts below was right - this album is ass.

I had really low expectations for this, it's not as bad as I expected.

After their last split CD with One Man Army, which wasn't bad, but is my least favorite release by them, I was slightly worried. Then i heard some of crimson leaked on the net and I was blown away. The cd starts off with the single "time to waste" which begins with a soothing piano intro and explodes with buzzing guitars and fast drums. "the Poison" is next and is my favorite song ever written by Dan, it sounds like the Misfits mixed with The Smiths. "Burn" shows the experimental side on the album, it's great and unlike anything the bands ever done. "Mercy Me " is next and reminds me why alkaline trio is such a great band, and why I have their logo inked on my arm. The band continues to slightly experiment with keyboards,piano,strings, etc and it works ( like blink182's last album did). "Fall Victim", " Dethbed", and "I was a prayer" are other stand out tracks. Lyrically this album is up to par with the alkaline trio of old, while musically and artistically it's their best work yet.

Don't believe what most of the posts here say.
This album sucks.

I ran out and bought this album first thing this morning even though I've been streaming it everyday for a week online.

Decent review, but I thoroughly enjoyed Matrix Reloaded and Good Mourning. I really don't understand why everyone didn't like Good Mourning. Regardless, I love the new album. "Mercy Me" and "Smoke" are some of the best tracks that this band has ever done.

If you in any way enjoy this band, this is a must have.

I love this CD. The songwriting and performances are spot on as is Jerry Finns production which helps take the sound to a whole new place that for the first time suits the band perfectly. Their best sounding recording ever coupled with some of their best songwriting. Who could ask for more? Crimson has style, substance, and it's dark as fuck. Viva la dark side! : )

I like this album, it's really catchy. I also liked Good Mourning though, and despite the poor production/Matt's crappy vocals, I thought it was a killer album.

-Seth

I've only listened to a handful of AK3 songs, never really bothered.

This cover reinforces my apprehension.

This might be one of the best reviews I have ever read on this site. Very well written.
I like Crimson, It's not my favorite but it makes sense within the progression that this band is making. Can't be angry teenagers forever, no matter how much we want them to be.

i definitely dig this album. mercy me and sadie rock.

good mourning isnt as bad as most people think it was; it had some really catchy tracks.

temple of doom was not great like the other 2 indy movies, but it wasnt horrible either.

and the only matrix movie worth watching more then once is the original. the 2 new ones have nothing on it. nothing at all.

Album is incredible. Can't get the songs out of my head...

"With Crimson, Alkaline Trio has written the album most bands try to write their entire careers"

ahahahahaha
You have to be 11 to write things like that you know.
Alkaline Trio is a terrible band. According to me they're just really bad and this album doesn't make them better, far from it.
Their music is neither creative, skillful nor ambitious, it's just boring.
Please try to understand that and it'll be a big step forward.

temple of doom slayed

I'm buying this today

Fantastic, period.

"one that wonderfully punctuates their trilogy of major releases and produces a perfectly accessible record that manages to do so without abandoning anything."

With all due respect, is this some kind of joke?

this band has yet to write a bad song.

best alk 3 record since catch fire, spot on review. a lot of people give infirmary shit, but i really enjoy it. but this is even better.

"cruft"?

this album's absolutely fantastic.
Burn is the best song on the cd, and there is no doubt in my mind that it will be HUGE once it becomes the next single

Although, From Here to Infirmary was great.

This album makes me want to strangle myself. I miss the Asian Man days.

i didn't have high hopes for this album. everything i heard around the rumor mill was negative. ...but now i'm curious. damn you. good review.

Empire Strikes Back>other Star Wars films combined
and oh yeah, Crimson is fucking awesome!

Temple Of Doom and Good Mourning were both good, man.

it's wookiees

This is easily one of the best releases of 2005. I really dig "Mercy me"

People don't give Temple of Doom enough credit.

Damn you Aubin. I'll put up with a lot from you, but I'm not gonna let you shit-talk "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", you sonuvabitch.

Reloaded was the shit, are you crazy?

This website sucks ass.

an incredible album...one fo the best albums of the year hands down

cruft?

I can't wait to buy it tonight and hear the true sound of it.
Hopefully it sounds better than my ripped copy.
Good album though. Dan is the shit!

I love this band, but this album is definitely nothing special. I was a bit disappointed. It's the first time I haven't played a new Trio album non-stop for weeks. But, still better than the vast majority of bands out there

This band is NOT over rated.

Very good shit.

alkaline trio are so over-rated

this album is so BORING

i don't get the fucking hype

at all