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As I Lay Dying

As I Lay Dying: Shadows Are SecurityShadows Are Security (2005)
Metal Blade Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5
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Contributed by: crazytoledocrazytoledo
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As I Lay Dying's Shadows Are Security is one of the largest metalcore releases as of late, with a lot of hype from a lot of people. The question with hype is, "Do they deserve it?" As I Lay Dying deserves some of this hype, but otherwise, is a little overrated in the end. "Meaning In Tragedy" is.
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As I Lay Dying's Shadows Are Security is one of the largest metalcore releases as of late, with a lot of hype from a lot of people. The question with hype is, "Do they deserve it?" As I Lay Dying deserves some of this hype, but otherwise, is a little overrated in the end.

"Meaning In Tragedy" is another one of those metalcore songs with some Swedish death metal riffs to start it out, and while these riffs are all over, "Meaning In Tragedy" uses them perhaps the best. The song starts off with a nice introduction riff, but the entire song can't keep up with this pace, as most of the album fails to do as well. "Confined" is a rather boring song until the clean vocals kick in, which I really like, but overall, "Confined" is a rather medicore song. Though on tracks like "Confined," there is a nice contrast of clean/shouted vocals.

"Losing Sights" starts with some more Swedish death metal riffs with some rather nice drums and vocals and carries well until As I Lay Dying's biggest problem occurs. Most of the song's parts between the intros, clean vocals, breakdowns, and Swedish death metal riffs are boring generic metalcore, wih monotonous shouting. But once the songs gets back to what it does best, it sounds better, but a lot of those parts in between hurt this album a lot.

And then we have "The Darkest Nights." This song starts with the best riff, which also plays towards the ending; the verses are interesting and solid, with great vocals, and contrasting clean vocals that are the best on this entire album. "The Darkest Nights" is obviously the best song on the entire CD. "Empty Hearts" starts pretty heavy for As I Lay Dying's standards, but is a rather boring track throughout, especially after "The Darkest Nights." Then "Reflection" comes on and it seems to take a heavy influence from Darkest Hour and Dead To Fall; more of the former, though. And since Darkest Hour kick ass, then so does this track. The riffs come out well, and the shouting stands out on this track compared to other songs on the album.

"Repeating Yesterday" starts very mellow, and while the music never really picks up, the vocals do, which is an OK at best contrast, but you start to realize how hard they're trying to sound like Darkest Hour; from the vocals to the music work, it's screaming Darkest Hour. "Through Struggle" is another really good song with nice riffs in the beginning with some decent shouting, but once again, "Am I listening to Darkest Hour?" is the ringing question.

"The Truth Of Perception" and "Control Is Dead" sound generic and like every other song on the album, but "Morning Waits" sounds somewhat like "The Darkest Nights," another one of the best songs on the album because of its interesting riffs that stand out somewhat on the album. "Illusions" sounds a lot like older Dead To Fall and isn't the way to close out the album.

Overall, Shadows Are Security is a good album, but drags at times, is a little too generic, and doesn't sound really like their own band. I mean, every song sounds like Darkest Hour or Dead To Fall and even Atreyu with the Swedish guitar riffs and periodically clean vocals. This CD could have been better, but it's an okay buy for what it is. If you like this type of music, you'll probably like this. But if not, it probably won't convert you.

 

 
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teegz (May 17, 2007)

if youse HATE it sooo much why the fuck would you waste your time commenting about this awsome band??? bunch of dickheads...this coming from a chick: fuck off and go listen to simple plan whilst riding your skateboard trying to do sum gay arse trick to show off to your mates!!!
xx teegz
www.myspace.xom/pezxoxo

Satelliteyrs (December 28, 2006)

one of my fav

Anonymous (December 13, 2006)

how do people listen to this! emo metalcore sux and it tookover true hardcore. now when people say hardcore, the connotation is this emo metal bullshit. and yet another "die" name

crazytoledo (May 12, 2006)

Well this album has me going confused.

I did like it, then I didnt really care for it, then I recently listened to it non stop, now I'm kind of 'who cares?'

Anonymous (May 8, 2006)

I'm not sure who comes off as sounding stupider, the band's supporters or the band's detractors. "Ride your skateboards off a fucking cliff"? Haha, wow, please don't have kids, the gene pool really doesn't need to be dilluted any more than it already is.

Or how about reviewers who won't stand by their own opinions once they realize that lots of people don't agree with them? Say what you want about your tastes changing, you'll still come off as a wishy-washy pussy.

Anonymous (May 3, 2006)

"I gave it a one, and it doesn't even deserve that, I'll give it a -100. Their name alone was enough for me to think twice about even giving them a listen in the first place. So I listened to them, and I hated them, then i saw every little fuckwipe in my school wearing the exact same hoodie of the band, and I decided that they, along with hawthorne hieghts, and pretty much every screamo/post hardcore band out there, is what is wrong with music these days. I'm sorry if you're over the age of 13 and still listening to this shit, and if you are... jump off the fucking bandwagon, and pick up some Lagwagon"

lagwagon are shite. shitty eaerly 90's shite shite punk shite that everyone seems to love cos its old n shite.

good album

Anonymous (April 17, 2006)

to all the punk kids who talk shit about as i lay dying........
Go ride your skateboards off a fuckin cliff, and take all the pussy anti-war punk bands with you :) good day!

Anonymous (April 7, 2006)

You guys are a freaking punk website so you can't say crap about a freaking post hardcore band ass holes!!!!!!!

Anonymous (March 26, 2006)

These comments are so boring, if you dont like as i lay dying why bother to write about them.

Shadows is one of the best metal albums in years.

I cant understand why people dislike metal bands that have positive lyrics, is so much better than listening to slipknot or some band that dosent back what they sing about. Is anyone from Slipknot in jail or on death row for murdering anyone yet....I mean be honest they live in luxury sing about stuff they dont live by...Its just so boring..

Anonymous (March 26, 2006)

what the hell? i *&%^ing love this band, too!!

Anonymous (March 25, 2006)

Personally, AILD is my fav band, they fucking rock..I saw them with Unearth and Slipknot and they just played like fucking mad it was a sick show. This CD is fucking awesome and to all you fucking fags trashing it go back to listening to your simple plan shit.

Anonymous (February 24, 2006)

if you dont like metal, get off this forum.
seriously, people like you make me sick.
you have nothing better to do than insult certain peoples' music interests. you aren't always right, and grow the fuck up. this site is designed to allow fans/spectators to review the kind of music they like and to point out to good and bad parts of the album.

now for the part for the people who actually like metal. yes, it does follow a type of formula, but then again doesnt every genre of music? so why worry who or what it sounds like. if you like it, you like it. the best tracks are: the darkest nights, meaning in tragedy, through struggle, and repeating yesterday. thanks.

and seriously, if i see any more piss ant pussbags on here insulting this genre or this band without any REAL backup to their point, im going to hunt them down and feed them my fist.
- Ben

Anonymous (February 13, 2006)

blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,i like this band!!!!!

thejewvolta (January 30, 2006)

thats really lame of you to like this record at all

crazytoledo (January 30, 2006)

O Rly?

Anonymous (January 24, 2006)

what the hell? i love this band so *&%^ing much

Anonymous (January 17, 2006)

Good Album

could have been better.

but still worth the money.

Anonymous (January 9, 2006)

I think this cd is better that their last ....i mean they did take out a few more breakdowns which does suck cause breakdowns fuckin kick ass....but the addition of singing in some songs the singing gives the songs dynamics. and the sound quality is better, its got more bass and hits hard as fuck with the subs pumbin.. Confined is their best song to date in my opinion....either way this is a fuckin great band.

thejewvolta (December 21, 2005)

have you guys seen
The Ok GO video
where they dance?
cause its cool
cooler than As I Lay Crying

Anonymous (December 15, 2005)

crazy good ... dont care what anyone says .. this band is one of my favorites .. i almost completely disagree with the whole review ... i guess they're just not seeing the true greatness of AILD ..

LaidToWaste (December 14, 2005)

well it isn't Frail Words Collapse but it is't a terrible follow up album. they are still an amazingly talented band who can bring forth some good ass kickin metal!

warningdevice (December 10, 2005)

I gave it a one, and it doesn't even deserve that, I'll give it a -100. Their name alone was enough for me to think twice about even giving them a listen in the first place. So I listened to them, and I hated them, then i saw every little fuckwipe in my school wearing the exact same hoodie of the band, and I decided that they, along with hawthorne hieghts, and pretty much every screamo/post hardcore band out there, is what is wrong with music these days. I'm sorry if you're over the age of 13 and still listening to this shit, and if you are... jump off the fucking bandwagon, and pick up some Lagwagon.

Foaming_97 (December 9, 2005)

this cd would be awesome if they took the shitty vocals... and then made them not shitty

crazytoledo (October 2, 2005)

AILD = Overrated, generic metalcore crap

If you think they are awesome then I would suggest listening to more music, considering I can name a 100 metalcore bands better than them and then 500 better metal bands.

K-Dizzle (September 29, 2005)

This CD kicks ass and sure it may not top the old cd, but its still awesome. And don't even say that all the songs sound the same fuckers, have you even listened to it? Tim Lambesis's vocals on the new cd are great and theres no effects on them at all. And who cares if they are a christain band what does that matter, you dont have to cuss and talk about bad stuff to be a bad ass band. And if you have seen ALID live, they do not suck at all. If you think they suck then you may have something wrong with you.

crazytoledo (September 25, 2005)

Only good band on your list is old Sinai Beach.

Russe11 (September 23, 2005)

Metal-core is either metal influenced hardcore, or hardcore influenced metal. For a metal influenced hardcore band check out Most Precious Blood or Terror, and for a hardcore influenced metal band check out maybe Hatebreed, or early Sinai Beach.

drummadict (August 31, 2005)

track 9 is good, but track 10, better, b/c the singer from zao is in it.

Anonymous (August 25, 2005)

more of the same from this metalcore band that stands above most of the million of em out there these days, with guitars in the tradition of melodic metal and drumming that's even better than their previous work. Track 9 is my particular favorite on this one.

Dyrwen (July 22, 2005)

Frail Words Collapse was beautiful, great to listen to over and over, and damned unique in how they sounded.

This CD is just generic, they sound like other bands rather than the voice on Frail Words and a lot of their riffs are the same throughout the CD. It's an okay record, but certainly isn't at all good in comparison to Frail Words Collapse, which is sad to have to say, since they certainly have the ability to be that good.

Anonymous (July 8, 2005)

i still dont see the logic behind christian hardcore or christian metal-core.

crazytoledo (July 5, 2005)

Revised Score for AILD

With all those people credited with special appearances, Im doubting the clean vocals in the beginning are of AILD's vocalists, especially since their different and the way its mixed with shouts, its either done pretty stupidally or someone else...

Anyone else see that the one dude from throwdown had an appearance somewhere here...

notes everyone hating this album...

Anonymous (July 5, 2005)

Track 1 through 8 absolutely rip..this cd hasnt come out of my player for like 5 days straight..Darkest Nights on repeat "for days" but fuck you for sayin to bitch about city of evil...that cd is probably my favorite of the year and for years to come...actually read the lyrics..and listen to the music you ignorant asshole..i bet the lyrics mesh with 90% of our lives.A7X fan for life...and Shadows are Security kicks ass too!!!

Anonymous (July 3, 2005)

what are u blatant retards moaning about man this is re-god-damn-diculas "as i lay dying - shadows for security" is fuckin solid its easily one of the top albums this year followed closedly by devil drivers new album and i think chimaira will blow them both but if u wanna moan about an album just listen to city of evil.....xxxxx

crazytoledo (June 24, 2005)

That was the worse part. It's sad that the middle was kinda filler vocally and the music in between was filler ish repetitive, it ruined the clean vocals, swedish metal riffs, and solos, ok purchase for like $6 thanks to the Replay Card at Media Play...

Anonymous (June 22, 2005)

Music's sweet, backup vocals are catchy, but one thing I really didn't like about this album was the main vocal patterns. It's like he wrote the lyrics before they wrote the music and he's trying to make it fit. There is almost NO variety in his voice.

crazytoledo (June 21, 2005)

Some metalcore is good but AILD isn't in that top precentile...

rkl (June 20, 2005)

hey crazytoledo, what exactly is metalcore? what are the parameters? what makes it different from metal aside from a bunch of scene kids thinking that theyre too cool to listen to metal?

crazytoledo (June 17, 2005)

"Man, I hope there's a wizard or dragon on that back cover."

Also, there is nothing having anything to do with "hardcore", as you call it, on this record. This is metal.

No wizard just a shitty background and this is not metal, it''s metalcore.

hey the best buy link lasts only 30 seconds what the hell?????

Not from like beginning of June till the 12th, they were full then...

saying this band is generic is like saying nirvana was generic because of all the bands that sounded like them. as i lay dying is leading the pack, and this is the best metalcore cd ever made. yeah, i said the best ever.

Leave and never ever, EVER COME BACK. IM ALREADY IN SHIT FOR GIVING this CD too high of a score, as I anknowledged.

How can you lead the pack when you sound like your ripping off a band in the same genre that sounds like a version of another band and so on. When listening to this CD I get a vibe of, that sounds like (insert metalcore band here)

It's good, but not original and can't lead the pack for that reason alone. It's not even a 7, I really should have gaven a 5 or 6.

it's still pretty impressive

I can think of many bands that are more impressive and AILD are tyring to rip off these bands.

Save your money for Darkest Hour's "Undoing Ruin" and "Sleep In Your Grave" Manntis if you need more than 1 metalcore CD now. I'd rather buy the reissue of "The Curse" by Atreyu than suggest this, thank god I decided to only pay like $6 for it.

aubin (June 17, 2005)

I just got this today, and even though it hits a lot of the "metalcore" cliches pretty hard, it's still pretty impressive. While I doubt any metal/hardcore hybrid is going to come close to Undoing Ruin, I think Shadows Are Security is still one of the better releases this year.

Anonymous (June 16, 2005)

saying this band is generic is like saying nirvana was generic because of all the bands that sounded like them. as i lay dying is leading the pack, and this is the best metalcore cd ever made. yeah, i said the best ever.

SkolarX (June 16, 2005)

to the dude below me, yes they are, though they aren't annoying about it like haste the day or anyone else on the solid state roster
they are fucking great live though. the cds have been a little touch and go but live they always come through.

Anonymous (June 16, 2005)

I went to go see this band, and they were good live, but I was trippin'...

... but i've always kinda wondered, are they christian or not? I mean, I don't think they are, but I have heard otherwise. And yes, it matters.

etwiels88 (June 15, 2005)

See: Across Five Aprils.

Hahaha.

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

naming bands after books it just the coolest! So is melodic metalcore! So is Blatant sarcasm!
----Travis

Kenjamin (June 15, 2005)

anyone ever see that video clip of buddy rich schooling Animal on the drum set? Beautiful.

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

hey the best buy link lasts only 30 seconds what the hell?????

unconcerned (June 15, 2005)

does something overly generic really deserve a 7?

i'd reserve anything over 5 for something that i found to be rather good (5 is the middle and if you think about it is like a C)

I'd give this overhyped piece of garbage a 3 on a good day

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

nice cover art. no really.

bonham owns.
-TOBB

Anchors (June 15, 2005)

Not as much as John Lennon.

And since I just know I actually have to say this, that was sarcasm folks.

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

John Bonham man, he really sucked

Anonymous (June 15, 2005)

ok, first off, I heard the wanker drummer for this band uses a trigger pedal for double bass stuff. That is weak.
Second, some fuck on absolutepunk said that travis barker's chops were better / fills were harder than KEITH MOON'S! I had to leave the website, never to return.

I hate ignorant pricks that don't respect where rock and roll came from. Moon and Bonham practically invented rock drumming, not to mention buddy rich could whoop all of these fruits asses.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

"Screamo is emo with metal influence."

Well....what band does that? I havent heard that one yet. And Im not even trying to be a dick, I would seriously like to hear that. Im sure its terrible...but who knows.

Ooooh, Atreyu? But doesnt everyone call them metalcore? Are they screametalcore? Cant we just shorten that down to shit?

Dizzying really.....

But in all seriousness I dont hear a hint of metal in what the kids are calling scremo now. And when everyone namedrops the supposed "real" screamo bands, Rites of Spring or Hot Cross usually comes up, they just sound like plain old hardcore bands with a bit less testosterone. Is it really necessary to make a new genre everytime the formular is tweaked a little bit? Is Refused electrocore or something?

-!GreenVandal!

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

IN all honosty, I enjoyed As I Lay Dyings last album quite a bit but I just can't get into this new one... too bad

bizzlebrizzle (June 14, 2005)

Metalcore isnt a real genre. And neither is scremo. Screaming in emo songs doesnt make a new genre, and adding a breakdown into a metal song doesnt make it a new genre either. This 1 1 = NEW genre meshing shit has to stop. Man Im on a roll today.

-!Greenvandal!

According to some:

Screamo is emo with metal influence.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

I forgot that plus signs dont get shown here. oops. You kids are smart, im sure you can figure out where it goes.

-!GreenVandal!

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

Metalcore isnt a real genre. And neither is scremo. Screaming in emo songs doesnt make a new genre, and adding a breakdown into a metal song doesnt make it a new genre either. This 1 1 = NEW genre meshing shit has to stop. Man Im on a roll today.

-!Greenvandal!

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

"Man, I hope there's a wizard or dragon on that back cover."

hahahaha

Also, there is nothing having anything to do with "hardcore", as you call it, on this record. This is metal. I know this is 2005, and Victory records wants us to believe that they are both the same thing, but they arent. This is metal. Paint it black would a be a hardcore band. Listen, compare, and reflect.

hmmm

-!GreenVandal!

SophiaTheRad (June 14, 2005)

Well then. This is only my second post on this site and it seems evident that hardcore kids or fans of the music aren't treated with any respect at all. That's alright anyway...

The album.
I actually just listened to it today. A friend of mine has a friend that is a cousin of Norris and I guess he received a copy a couple of days earlier. I listened to it in my health class and was glad to hear that their sound, style, and quality didn't diminish over the years - not to mention their songwriting. I enjoyed it just as much as Frail Words Collapse, and maybe a little more with the exception with a few more softer songs than on the last album. Anyway, this is purley my opinion. Feel free to rip it apart.

crazytoledo (June 14, 2005)

Anyway, just more of what ElVaq said, that your score doesn't really reflect how it seems you felt about the album. I wouldn't really give that high a score to something that is seemingly so copied from other bands and styles.

It's because I really, really like "The Darkest Nights" That's what got the CD that score...

Anchors (June 14, 2005)

It's the kids first review, cut him a break. It's no wonder people are scared to submit reviews on here, it's because if they aren't incredible, they get ripped apart.

Anyway, just more of what ElVaq said, that your score doesn't really reflect how it seems you felt about the album. I wouldn't really give that high a score to something that is seemingly so copied from other bands and styles.

punkcorekid (June 14, 2005)

yes, the goo goo dolls used to be on metal blade

Whoa! I didn't know that. That's pretty sweet.

gladimnotemo (June 14, 2005)

Man, I hope there's a wizard or dragon on that back cover.

crazytoledo (June 14, 2005)

About the review sucking? What do you expect. I did it while I was bored at the libary and just felt like reviewing it to see my review somewhere and to review it before release.

It's ok at best and my review could have been more of a 6 (3 stars), but It could grow on me.

While I like some metalcore, I do prefer to listen to a variety of metal (Swedish Death Metal, Thrash, Death) and hardcore. I like a variety in my music...

ElVaquero (June 14, 2005)

Yeah! where'd they think of a stupid emo name like that. Every band has the word dying or death in it these days.

...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/067 973225X/qid=1118777213/sr=8-2/ref=pd_csp_2/103-6219555-6003842?v= glance&s=books&n=507846

crackpotdemagogue (June 14, 2005)

Fuck this band.

i give it "1" for the comedy value of their name!

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

Yay! more shit!

ElVaquero (June 14, 2005)

Overall, Shadows Are Security is a good album, but drags at times, is a little too generic, and doesn't sound really like their own band. I mean, every song sounds like Darkest Hour or Dead To Fall and even Atreyu with the Swedish guitar riffs and periodically clean vocals. This CD could have been better, but it's an okay buy for what it is. If you like this type of music, you'll probably like this. But if not, it probably won't convert you.

This paragraph makes me think you should give it a 4 or 5. 6 at the max. I don't think I'd be that nice.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

Score is for the reviewer. Probably the worst written review i've read since becoming a regular visitor to Punknews. Either you're stupid, or you just reflect the demographics of the kind of person who listens to this garbage.

Sally_Field (June 14, 2005)

i'M noT gOinG to evEn ReAd tHe reVieW bCuZ tHe GenrE is soooooo GaY11!1

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

this band sucks. totally over rater. all their songs sound the same and singer is just barking into the fucking mic.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

the goo goo dolls released 6 cd's on metal blade in 88-95.

i havn't even heard em.

xmidipunkbastardx (June 14, 2005)

yes, the goo goo dolls used to be on metal blade

slippy (June 14, 2005)

Better.

slippy (June 14, 2005)

"Fuck this band"

Seconded.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

it's good, but not as good as their first. Its like they went and listened to a bunch of It Dies Today and Killswitch Engage cds and thought "hmm, we're metal-core aren't we? We should try and sound more like this". They achieved it but it isnt for the better. still a good listen though.

fallingupwards84 (June 14, 2005)

I am so tired of metalcore.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

"this cd sucks

every song sounds the same"

But if they all sounded different the metalcore kids would get confused...

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

As soon as I read "metalcore" I stopped reading.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

Metalcore deserves to die.

theundergroundscene (June 14, 2005)

this cd sucks

every song sounds the same

and it's identical to frail words collapse

fuck this band

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

10 years after Slaughter of the Soul and lame bands are still ripping off the ATG formula. This band sucks and they suck live. And they're CHRISTIAN.

dudehq (June 14, 2005)

revised score!

dudehq (June 14, 2005)

the goo goo dolls used to be on metal blade, didn't they?

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

One of the better cds I have ever bought not quite as good as Frail Words Collapse but in my book no cd ever comes close so thats not saying anything. Too many good songs and not any bad ones lets me give this cd what it deserves a 10. If you dont buy this you are seriously missing out. Exactly what metalcore should sound like and thats why As I Lay Dying is my favorite band right now.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

most cds do....

jamespastepunk (June 14, 2005)

This CD needs more cowbell.

Anonymous (June 14, 2005)

i havent heard this cd yet, but if you're copying darkest hour you know you're unoriginal. DH wouldnt exist if it wasnt for 'slaughter of the soul'

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