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Terrorhawk is an album that really reveals the fundamental shortcomings of the English language when trying to talk about music. In this case, I could describe it as a record that incorporated singing and screaming, melodic and aggressive moments and you'd walk away expecting something very different. In fact, while the band does embrace those things, Bear Vs. Shark takes it in an entirely different direction. The heavy moments don't need metal breakdowns, and the softer ones don't play into nü-emo clichés; there are no nasal, autotuned vocals or songs coldly calculated to enamor pre-teen girls.

Bear Vs. Shark comes from that older tradition of hardcore and emo when the two terms had more to do with the lyrical content than the sound of the band; the kind of aggressive, sensitive music that taps into melancholy rather than anger. This is gentle music, but it is also visceral; it is angry, but also self-concious. It is exactly what a solid modern emotional hardcore band should strive for.

“Baraga Embankment” begins with piano, with vocalist Marc Paffi very nearly crooning over a horn section which undulates between a brash big band and John Zorn squeals; “Catamaran” contemplates a crackling, stacatto riff to build tension before the shouted chorus. The band continues its creative streak with the simple two-note bass line which accompanies the verses of “Entrace Of The Elected,” simple but deceptively.

While a disparate range of influences bubbles up through this record, particularly on the mellifluous “What A Horrible Night For A Curse,” Terrorhawk is nonetheless anchored by its punk and hardcore roots, both in vocal style and in its emphasis on simplicity; so many other bands with this kind of songwriting prowess would have favoured overblown and silly arrangements; instead, Bear Vs. Shark concentrates on wringing as much power out of that two-note bassline, or the burst of feedback that leads out “I Fucked Your Dad.”

Terrorhawk is an anthemic, creative and impressive record and brings Bear Vs. Shark to the forefront of the Equal Vision roster. People loved Right Now You're In The Best Of Hands, but they're going to love Terrorhawk more.



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    Posted by treos on 2006-10-25 15:34:52
    My Score:

    One of the best cds ever. period

    Posted by DenBez on 2006-07-08 11:50:06
    My Score:

    Hot damn!

    Posted by 13013 on 2006-06-13 15:23:05
    My Score:

    still the best album ever put to tape.

    Posted by etwiels88 on 2006-06-02 23:36:38
    My Score:

    Still a great fucking album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 8, 2006 at 4:39 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I think the two BVS albums will become some of the most important albums of the decade. It may take a while for them to get their footing. Screamo like Hawthorne Heights will become the hair metal of the 00's while BVS will maintain as actual artists. Shortlived unfortunately, but... kick ass music.

    Posted by BlackSheepBoy on 2005-09-30 01:27:46
    My Score:

    What? A rock band that actually engages the listener and demands them tune in to what is going on in each song? 15 tracks with no filler?? A lead man who sings like he's got a pair??

    Crud, that sucks, I just like.... wish they would have gone for the whole screamo thing this time around......

    Excellent album. Certianly one of the best this year. Kudos.

    Posted by darkstarm on 2005-08-13 18:26:25

    this is the record of the year so far, only thing i've heard that's up there is bloc party.

    Posted by tristan on 2005-07-14 01:52:01
    My Score:

    Well-written review, cool album and, indeed, snazzy album design. I know it just came out but, seriously, how are they gonna follow this one up?

    Posted by EMOHOLOCAUST on 2005-06-20 17:53:57

    how about weed vs pot??

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 2:41 PM (EDT)

    You fools who argue on internet message boards are cock-mongers.

    And this band fucking KILLS people live. I'm not kidding; it's not that they're really good, they actually kill a fan on stage every night, usually with a hammer.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 1:02 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This album is pretty damn good and that's coming from someone who has been down with the scene longer than any of you little kiddies. My cock is huge too. So there you go.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 6:18 PM (EDT)

    "Posted by Anonymous on 2005-06-15 22:25:31
    My Score:
    _I think Bear vs Shark are overrated...I really don't see what's so great about them..._
    Dumbass! Fishing for a response? Well there you go, dickbreath.

    Maybe one that would have reasons why the band are getting so much hype and why their music deserves a chance...but of course, instead, I got the unintelligent rebuttle that you would only expect from another poster at Punknews.org"

    Oh no! insult anything but my intelligence! Where are they getting any hype? Yeah, I just saw them on MTV every fucking hour for three days straight. No wait that was shithole music like Good (for shit) Charlotte! Maybe they deserve som hype for lyrics that are less Emo than Plath or Sexton. And maybe they should get some hype for being non-screamo on a shithole screamo lable. And maybe they should get some hype for having an original sound and not being some Thursday clone or poppunk reject. Or perhaps they should get some hype for putting more energy into one single show than most bands put into an entire tour. Now stick that up your self-absorbed, condescending, close-minded ass!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 11:59 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    boners galore!

    Posted by jamespastepunk on 2005-06-17 12:34:48

    I know I've got the popcorn.

    Posted by psychoos231 on 2005-06-17 04:06:48

    I want the BSD/ Anchors match to continue
    ROUND TWO............FIGHT!

    Posted by jamespastepunk on 2005-06-17 02:49:42

    I actually want to see Pitchfork review Bane, for the sole reason to see how laughingly wrong their assesments are.

    "Well, the guy can't sing, and there's breakdowns. Give it a 1, slap some one-liners on it, and we'll call it a day."

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 1:14 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    1.) Thanks to this numerical system, our arguments can be better understood and brought up in court at a later date.

    2.) I don't respect either of you.

    3.) Terrorhawk is a fantastic album.

    -benz

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2005-06-16 23:23:46

    Pitchfork has a deeply insightful, if insultingly half-baked review of the album.

    http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/b/bear-vs- shark/terrorhawk.shtml

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 9:49 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Original, unexpected and rocking - this album isn't quite perfect, but it deserves a '10.'

    OC

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 7:47 PM (EDT)

    BSD sucks. ######## sucks almost as much. ###### rules. word to anchors.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 7:25 PM (EDT)

    Who is the bigger tool? Anchors or BSD?

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-16 18:42:54

    1) Most people don't even acknowledge the Ramones albums of the 90's, it's barely even the same band. Chaos UK did change a good deal, but over the course of 20 some odd years. I'm talking about the time period they were actually relevant. So no, you can't gauge the progression of a band like Jerome's Dream, who put out minimal material.

    2) I also never said bands like The Ramones copied the Stooges, and I never said punk rock wasn't a "big deal." What I did say is the liklehood that bands such as the Ramones would have existed is less, if The Stooges, Mc5, and others didn't come before them.

    3) Lastly, the spectrum of music I enjoy excludes nothing besides contemporary country, such as Tobey Keith, and that sort of bullshit. I don't listen to music based on supposed arty pretenses, because if that was the case, would I like Alexisonfire, as you have pointed out time and time again? Very much unlike yourself, I don't consider any sort of music to be "beneath me," I may think it sucks, but I don't consider myself above any specific genre or style.

    Keep trying, touchass.

    Posted by Kenjamin on 2005-06-16 18:37:28

    Envy were invited to the UK by Mogwai and if they happened to play one show with Funeral for a friend then so be it. Sorry for my assumption that you were talking about the US of A. As for the Slipknot fans at a Funeral Diner show, you said it yourself. The show was in fucking Denmark! Those kids don't have the luxury of US kids who can choose among 8 shows everynight. If a show comes to a smaller country or any place that doesn't get shows often, the kids go, regardless of whether or not they are big fans of the band playing.

    quit acting like you zinged me.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 5:16 PM (EDT)

    The Lawerence Arms B sides album is great!!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 3:37 PM (EDT)

    "envy have done 1 US tour and they did not open for funeral for a friend. And who did Funeral Diner play wih?, which might have something to do with the slipknot fans...hmm."

    1. There are other countries and places in the world than the US, this was in uk, and they were invited by funeral for a friend themselves.
    2. No one. They were the only band on. It was extremly strange, in it was in fucking denmark.

    So. Just shut up.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 3:16 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    like you, hypocrite. why don't you try writing a review for a change? btw, inspection 12 sucks ass.

    twat

    Posted by Inspection12e on 2005-06-16 15:13:12

    I would totally miss Anchors more. He writes good reviews. BSD just listens to crappy bands and complains alot. We already have enough people who meet those specifications.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 2:25 PM (EDT)

    "Neither Chaos UK or the Ramones sound changed substantially, which is what you insinuated in the first place, or at least enough to make any sort of note of.

    And it honestly wasn't that adventerous, not when compared with things Iggy & The Stooges, among others, did several years before that.

    And how does having a particular sound keep a genre from having influences? Screamo may not be as varied as punk is, but it had it's influences. And your argument about "old punk" is moot, because I didn't say it wasn't varied, I said it didn't have a lot of inlfuence to draw from because of how young it was at the time."

    To clear it up, I'm talking about actual screamo, ala Orchid and Crimson Curse.

    The Ramones' sound did change over the years. Compare their first record to their third. Then compare that to one of their mid-80's records. Then their 90's records. Joey's guitar playing got better, and the band as a whole started taking more acid rock influences (as strange as that sounds, it's completely true. This side of the Ramones is just not the one that is most popular).

    Compare Chaos UK's first record to their second. Notice how they went from thrashy hardcore to more industrial sounding. Then compare that to their split with Extreme Noise Terror. Compare that to their modern crap.

    Unless you have to change styles completely to "change substantially", these bands both changed a lot throughout their careers.

    As for your argument about how punk rock wasn't a big deal because The Stooges and bands like that "did it first":

    1- Late 70's punk was certainly influenced by proto-punk bands, but you really must not have ever heard the Stooges to think they sounded anything like The Ramones, or worse, Chaos UK. The Stooges, The Velvet Underground, The Who, The Sonics, and others were certainly big influences to many punk bands, but you honestly cannot say any punk rock bands sounded like copies of those bands.

    2- If old punk rock was nothing adventerous, then screamo certainly wasn't and isn't. It's mostly a hundred carbon copies of about five bands that genuinely were original.

    I mean, you can't honestly do this because you simply haven't HEARD any of this stuff. You choose to dismiss it all as "beneath you" since it's not made with overtly arty pretense.

    You really can't gauge the progression of most screamo bands because most of them broke up after one record. So there.

    -BSD

    Posted by Kenjamin on 2005-06-16 13:04:10

    envy have done 1 US tour and they did not open for funeral for a friend. And who did Funeral Diner play wih?, which might have something to do with the slipknot fans...hmm.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-16 10:14:10

    I pressed enter too soon.

    Tack "I got it, but it was still fucking confusing." at the end of that last part.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-16 10:12:14

    "Well, i saw envy open for funeral for a friend and 2 weeks ago when i saw funeral diner the crowd was full of kids with way too big slipknot shirts."

    That was the most confusing sentance I have ever read.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 9:47 AM (EDT)

    "Is BSD thinking of the corruption of the Screamo term (Funeral For A Friend, Hawthorne Heights) or the actual definition (Envy, Funeral Diner)"

    Envy and funeral diner is the defintion of screamo?

    Well, i saw envy open for funeral for a friend and 2 weeks ago when i saw funeral diner the crowd was full of kids with way too big slipknot shirts.

    Posted by etwiels88 on 2005-06-16 09:40:50
    My Score:

    Yeah, it's amazing. Score's for BSB!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 7:42 AM (EDT)

    one time i saw this man spill out of his wheelchair and flop around on the floor. he was crawling around on his elbows, really helpless and vulnerable. i think i was in a mall or something. anyhow...i'm having a similar reaction reading this. in some sick way, it was funny at first...then i thought the whole situation was fucking pathetic, and a bit sad.

    anyone hear the backstreet boys have a new record out?
    -TOBB

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2005-06-16 04:03:43

    Is BSD thinking of the corruption of the Screamo term (Funeral For A Friend, Hawthorne Heights) or the actual definition (Envy, Funeral Diner)

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-16 01:49:14

    Neither Chaos UK or the Ramones sound changed substantially, which is what you insinuated in the first place, or at least enough to make any sort of note of.

    And it honestly wasn't that adventerous, not when compared with things Iggy & The Stooges, among others, did several years before that.

    And how does having a particular sound keep a genre from having influences? Screamo may not be as varied as punk is, but it had it's influences. And your argument about "old punk" is moot, because I didn't say it wasn't varied, I said it didn't have a lot of inlfuence to draw from because of how young it was at the time.

    Shut up.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 1:28 AM (EDT)

    "The Clash could pass for some musical deviation"

    you'd be hard pressed to find a band that went through so many musical genres in such a short time, with the obvious exception of the beatles.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 1:16 AM (EDT)

    I meant "adventurous"

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 1:04 AM (EDT)

    "If a one can exist (which I'm sure you'd rate Alexisonfire as), than so can a 10. And the question of how many there would be in the world is completely, and totally irrelevant.

    Ramones didn't play the same type of thing forever? You'd have a hard time telling me that the Ramones were a musically adventureous band. The Clash could pass for some musical deviation, but not the Ramones, not the Sex Pistols, not Chaos UK."

    The Sex Pistols' career lasted a whole 3 years, so I don't see how they apply... Chaos UK started out as a superfast hardcore band and have changed a lot since then, dabbling in crusty hardcore type stuff and recently making some really mediocre crap. The Ramones' sound went from raw to more poppish and glossed.

    The Ramones were musically adventerous. To play what they played at the time that they played it was adventerous. Just because people ended up liking it doesn't mean it wasn't crazy music for its time.

    The whole argument that screamo has "varied" influences doesn't make any sense, because you have to admit that "screamo" describes a particular sound. "Old punk" describes an era. By "old punk", I don't mean bands that sounded like the Ramones, but bands that formed with the same musical ideas as them. Television, The Damned, Buzzcocks, The Dead Boys, The Heartbreakers, The Dictators, and Crime hardly sound the same.

    Stay out of musical arguments, please.

    -BSD

    Posted by Kenjamin on 2005-06-16 00:34:57

    Shut up shut up shut up. Go release some dopemeine or something, anything.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 12:14 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Bsd writes

    "I didn't agree with the scoring guide. Music is music, not rate-able on a number scale. Something is either good or bad. No 8's, no 6's... "

    come on man...youre saying that all bands albums that you enjoy are all equally enjoyable? you dont have one record you like more than another? you dont know of one record you hate more than another....

    it seems you hate alexisonfire alot....maybe even more than other cds you dont like?

    you realize 90% of the shit you type is literally shit

    - the one who names the butcher

    Posted by jamespastepunk on 2005-06-16 00:13:22

    If Anchors and BSD continue, we can charge admission.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 12:00 AM (EDT)

    Awesome. I loved it.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-15 23:39:11

    I was aware that you're thick headed, but to say you've outdone yourself is an understatement if anything.

    Let me first address my position on staff, which, as indicated by the yellow mark on my reviews, is not pretend. About the time I was asked if I wanted to be on staff, I had written probably about 13-14 reviews, so only a few more than you've done. The difference is, people actually liked my writing. So from now on, try and do your best to keep those little fits of jealousy to yourself.

    Next up, is your claim that the stuff you're reviewing was being forgotten or overlooked. If that really is the case, there's a fucking reason for it. And I hardly doubt anybody is forgetting about The Sex Pistols, Black Flag, or The Ramones. And don't start with philosophical garbage about a "10" record not existing. If a one can exist (which I'm sure you'd rate Alexisonfire as), than so can a 10. And the question of how many there would be in the world is completely, and totally irrelevant.

    Ramones didn't play the same type of thing forever? You'd have a hard time telling me that the Ramones were a musically adventureous band. The Clash could pass for some musical deviation, but not the Ramones, not the Sex Pistols, not Chaos UK.

    And screamo and old punk aren't as far from each other as you're trying to make them seem. Old punk bands didn't have much more of a leg to stand on as far as borrowing from influences because many of those bands were the ones paving the way. Screamo draws influence from bands like Heroin, Shotmaker, Embrace, Dag Nasty, and old school hardcore as well, so don't give me a bullshit line about them not having any influences.

    "More sad than that, is the fact that I think in literally ever arguement I've had with you on this site, you bring up Alexisonfire, as if it's insulting to me that I like them"

    Apparently, you neglected to read that portion of my rebuttal. Well geuss what, my stance hasn't changed in a day's time, I still like the band, and I'm still not embarrassed of that fact, especially not by some blowhard who thinks he's the Ken Jennings of punk music. Get off it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 11:36 PM (EDT)

    "Screamo, as your adopted music, is far less varied than old punk."

    What the...? Have you ever listened to old punk? It's all "oi oi oi, mumble mumble, oi oi oi, mumble mumble, fuck the state, mumble mumble, oi oi oi!"

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 10:52 PM (EDT)

    Anchors:

    So you're basically accusing me of liking records that most people who like the same type of music agree are classics.

    In regards to "fanboy gushing"... I don't work for the site. I know you like to pretend you do because you got "staff" (as re-imbersement for the pathetic overflow of reviews you chose to write), but you don't, either. I didn't agree with the scoring guide. Music is music, not rate-able on a number scale. Something is either good or bad. No 8's, no 6's... I chose to review what I reviewed because I thought they were good records that were either being forgotten or overlooked. Of course my concluding paragraphs were nothing amazing. They were supposed to be a summation of who, in my opinion, would like the record.

    What is a "Ten" record? How many would there be in the world? Perfection is wholly impossible, really. Especially in DIY music. If you disagree with me rating things as a 10 just because I think it's "really good", you re-review Extreme Noise Terror and give them an 8 or whatever.

    As for how sure you are that I like bands that have been doing the "same thing forever"...

    1) Most of the records I reviewed were by bands that broke up while they were still relavent. The Ramones and Chaos UK being the only exceptions, they didn't keep playing the same kind of shit forever.

    2) Screamo, as your adopted music, is far less varied than old punk. The limited influences themselves narrow down the bands' sounds way too much to make it a good genre to tote.

    3) You like Alexisonfire. This officially bars you from all trashtalking.

    -BSD

    Posted by etwiels88 on 2005-06-15 22:34:37

    Posted by Anonymous on 2005-06-15 22:25:31
    My Score:
    _I think Bear vs Shark are overrated...I really don't see what's so great about them..._
    Dumbass! Fishing for a response? Well there you go, dickbreath.


    Maybe one that would have reasons why the band are getting so much hype and why their music deserves a chance...but of course, instead, I got the unintelligent rebuttle that you would only expect from another poster at Punknews.org

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 10:25 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    _I think Bear vs Shark are overrated...I really don't see what's so great about them..._

    Dumbass! Fishing for a response? Well there you go, dickbreath.

    Posted by bemused on 2005-06-15 21:43:07

    One of the only albums I have genuinely been excited about hearing this year. Their last album was fantastic

    -Chris-

    Posted by etwiels88 on 2005-06-15 21:20:06
    My Score:

    I think Bear vs Shark are overrated...I really don't see what's so great about them...

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 8:49 PM (EDT)

    this album is very, very good. (very).

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 8:33 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    i think this is a very good cd. i also like the cd itself...old school style.

    this is the album of the week of june 14th at least

    - the one the only the great

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 7:20 PM (EDT)

    true....

    ----Travis.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-15 19:17:03

    Deep Elm, Jade Tree, and Level Plane also deserve praise.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 7:01 PM (EDT)

    didnt insult no idea...it's under the praised..ehh whatever dont feel like fucking explaining myself.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 6:51 PM (EDT)

    You insult No Idea, you insult yourself.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 6:48 PM (EDT)

    Fuck:
    equal vision
    trustkill
    ferett
    victory
    eulogy
    bridge 9
    Praise:
    Alone
    No idea
    Polyvinyl
    Caulfield
    --------------Travis.

    Posted by Archangel on 2005-06-15 17:50:28

    "In terms of who this site would miss more, me or Anchors, I would win, of course."

    False.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 5:40 PM (EDT)

    HTB and BVS are scheduled to do a show in dekalb il on august 11th...so yeah

    Posted by Big_Guy on 2005-06-15 17:06:35

    They forgot the lyrics in this booklet

    Posted by CherryColaRain on 2005-06-15 16:42:29
    My Score:

    I like alot of Equal Vision bands. Oh well, anyways, I had expectetions for this record to be a little bit less powerful than "You're in the best of hands..." but i must say I'm gladly impressed that it didn't only meet my expectetions, it way surpassed them. Really good record and I have no complaints.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 3:33 PM (EDT)

    "Great album. Great band. And they are playing the east coast in the late summer on HORSE THE BAND'S
    THE CIRCLE TAKES THE SQUARE, AN ALBATROSS, #12 LOOKS LIKE YOU, AMANDA ROGERS, AND BEAR VS SHARK ARE ALL HUGE PUSSIES TOUR. Maybe. God I hope that Baltimore date comes through."

    none of the listed bands are playing with HTB, i talked with marc of bvs about the tour and he said they had talked with HTB about 4-6 months ago about a summer tour and never heard back from them, then posted the dates without talking to anyone from bvs or evr. while bvs already had their dates with posion the well.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 1:05 PM (EDT)

    What about Bars, Liars Academy, Black Cross, and Give Up the Ghost?

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 12:40 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Everyone trashing equal vision made me want to defend them. Then I went to their site and realized almost all of their bands are trash.

    Then I was gonna say, "What happened!?"

    Then I realized that when I dug Equal Vision I was a freshman in high school.

    Bear vs Shark is awesome, but Equal Vision doesn't really impress me.

    -benz

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-15 09:56:46

    The crayon is magenta, thank you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 8:25 AM (EDT)

    Anchors - well said, but you should really just ignore him.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 7:40 AM (EDT)

    wow. a couple of retards fighting over the red crayon. i come here for the entertainment.
    -TOBB

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 5:27 AM (EDT)

    Nicely put, Anchors. Picking holes in BSD's arguments is like shooting fish in a barrel, but that was really well said.

    Posted by CorpseOfMyMotivation on 2005-06-15 05:13:38
    My Score:

    I just saw them again for the second time in a week. God, they're great.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-15 04:27:46

    I don't remember ever commenting on anything pertaining to Subhumans tour dates, but if I did, it was to get a rise out of people, and if you're still remembering that, and bringing it up now, it's really pretty sad.

    More sad than that, is the fact that I think in literally ever arguement I've had with you on this site, you bring up Alexisonfire, as if it's insulting to me that I like them. Same goes with screamo. At least screamo bands did something different, rather than the same fucking tired formulas that God knows how many punk bands have used in the last 30 years. Not every punk band applies to this, but a good amount, and I'm sure plenty of the ones you listen to.

    And I remember some of your reviews, they all were about 250 words, all 10's, and were all fanboy takes on whateve record you were liking that week. Let's take some snippets from some of your reviews for evidence of your command of the english language, and overall writing mastery.

    "For anyone who is a fan of punk, or rock in general and doesn't think lyrics have to be "socially aware" 100% of the time, order this or whatever."

    "Anyone who likes real hardcore (no wankfest solos or metal riffs) that they can pogo around to should pick this up."

    You know what, enough already, I can't take any of your "real" punk or "real" hardcore lecturing bullshit. Shut the fuck up. I don't know who died and made you the worlds leading authority on punk and hardcore authenticity, but until I see their obituary, cut the shit.

    Kudos on the ass raping joke, by the way, clever, really, probably the first joke I've ever heard about gay sex. Get the off your high horse, because you don't know half as much about music as you egotistically think that you do.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 3:51 AM (EDT)

    You claimed that them getting cancelled tour dates was "good news". The fact that you prefer screamo to actual hardcore is telling enough of your general music tastes, but to parade Alexisonfire as a good band while dissing the Subhumans is just... Disgusting.

    I suppose you wouldn't understand.

    It's kind of like if someone said they prefer Taking Back Sunday to The Swing Kids, to put it in your bland 90's context.

    As for reviews? I used to review stuff. I'm in cahoots with a reviewer.

    Maybe the next time you get an ass raping from Peter North, they'll record your screams and splice them into the next screamo hit from Alexis. Until then, don't take the dissapointment out on my point of view.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-15 03:37:34
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    BSD, oh where do I begin.

    A) I've never, ever claimed to be that big into "old school" hardcore. I'm more into, as you said, screamo such as Portraits Of Past, Heroin, Funeral Diner, ect. So wrong on that account.

    B) I don't recall ever dissing the Subhumans, you probably have me confused with somebody else, just as you tried to tell me I like Terror a while back, because you know, I don't know exactly which bands I do and don't like.

    C) I fail to see how anyone, and I mean literally anyone would miss you. I contribute a decent amount of reviews, and while you may not like or agree with them, it's sure a hell of a lot more effort than you put in, as 4 or 5 different people have said, all you do is bitch.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 3:16 AM (EDT)

    equal vision IS a horrendous label. but bear vs. shark is okay.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 2:35 AM (EDT)

    In terms of who this site would miss more, me or Anchors, I would win, of course.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 2:02 AM (EDT)

    Which makes you a better person?

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 12:53 AM (EDT)

    Yeah, but knowing a lot about mid to late-90's screamo makes Anchors a better person.

    The funny thing is that he claims to like "old school" hardcore when I believe I remember him insulting the Subhumans... Who he probably assumes are a "stupid street-punk" band because they formed in the 80's and aren't from Washington or Boston.

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at 12:49 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    The booklet is cool.

    I feel that this is just where punk rock should be these days. Too often, punk bands just make dumb music. This CD, along with their last one, is intelligent and artistic -- and undeniably punk rock.

    At times I felt like I was listening to Sonic Youth or vaya-era At The Drive-in. Bear vs Shark has done it again, made an art-punk cd without the pretention.

    And the production is absolutely perfect.

    -benz

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 7:48 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    someone told me they kinda got some rocket from the crypt riffs in there, so i checked it out. its not amazing, but they seem to know what they are doing. i give them a 7, keeeep it live.

    Posted by hein on 2005-06-14 19:40:31
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    Indeed a terrific album. At times (in some songs) reminded me a bit of Jade Tree's Despistado. Equal Vision released OK albums recently, but this one is really terrific. Passionate yet energetic with good vocals and some intense, poignant guitars. Definitely one of the good albums in 2005.

    Posted by bloodbrothersburnpiano on 2005-06-14 19:35:03
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    equal vision is probably the best label out there. it has a small, personal setting, and doesn't have to use major label distribution, but still manages to promote it's bands incredibly well and get their cd's into alot of major stores. not to mention has very good taste in music in signing great bands like bear vs. shark, fear before the march of flames, fall of troy, armor for sleep, bane, etc. who are all among my favorites. i hope they sign horse the band next, which i have heard may be a possibility.

    that tour mentioned below would be fucking incredible, and one of the best shows from top to bottom i would ever egt to see, but unfortunnately it's a joke. just read what the site says right after the text your pasted. "(That means we're not touring with any of them.)"

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 6:42 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "Terrorhawk is an album that really reveals the fundamental shortcomings of the English language when trying to talk about music."

    ????

    Maybe you just a limited vocabulary.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 3:58 PM (EDT)
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    do these guys actually play to anyone outside of detroit? they certainly don't draw here. i'm sure the cd release drew some people but 9 times out of 10 there will be like 15 people at their shows. that said didn't like the ska band that most of them were in and don't like this band either. the singing is bad, not emotional

    Posted by maverick on 2005-06-14 15:47:00
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    I'm surprised no one's commented on the awesome packaging. What a cool booklet.

    -Scott

    Posted by VitusTinnitus on 2005-06-14 15:07:43
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    I had heard two of their songs from what I believe was a mp3 of the week a while back on this site and liked it, but when I saw them two days ago in austin it cemented my feelings towards this band. the vocalist puts so much emotion into what he does that he drew me into the show and i really came to like this band. i'll be picking this one up as soon as i get some money.

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2005-06-14 14:30:06
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    I have fallen in love with this album over the past couple weeks, really fantastic. The first album of the year that made me think of Top 10 lists. It's going to be somewhere in the top 5.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 2:21 PM (EDT)
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    The best part about this band is that they always sound like they mean what they are saying. There is no overproduced, cleaned up, pro tooled garbage on here, it's pure emotion.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 2:20 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Great review, not overly complimentary, but dead on. This is a great album and 8/10 is nothing to sneeze at.

    Posted by corpseofmymotivation on 2005-06-14 14:09:49
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    Equal Vision is a terrible label.

    -Chinatown


    Besides Bane, Fall of Troy (sometimes), and, of course, Bear Vs. Shark, I'll have to agree with you.

    Posted by fritobandito on 2005-06-14 13:43:32
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    I'm so stoked that this album doesn't suck. In fact, it's actually REALLY good. Don't know if it's as good as their first release, but it is certainly awesome in it's own right.

    Posted by xmidipunkbastardx on 2005-06-14 12:06:54
    My Score:

    great record.

    and anchors, BSD knows his shit, chaintown doesn't. that's the difference.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 11:59 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Yeah, it's been nice lately, Jones and Chinatown haven't left any annoying shit for a while.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-14 11:42:22
    My Score:

    Oh, and this album rips.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-14 11:42:10
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    Figures that the only negative comment on this entire thread comes from Chinatown.

    Nobody missed you or your whining when you were gone, you jackass, you and BSD might as well marry.

    Posted by inagreendase on 2005-06-14 11:41:41
    My Score:

    HORSE THE BAND'S
    THE CIRCLE TAKES THE SQUARE, AN ALBATROSS, #12 LOOKS LIKE YOU, AMANDA ROGERS, AND BEAR VS SHARK ARE ALL HUGE PUSSIES TOUR


    I think Horse the Band were simply calling these bands pussies, and not actually touring with them all at once.

    Which is too bad, because that tour would absolutely rule.

    Posted by kirbypuckett on 2005-06-14 11:21:27
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    This is so damn good.

    One hell of a live band too!

    - Kirby

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 10:22 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Equal Vision is a terrible label.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by slippy on 2005-06-14 10:21:07
    My Score:

    This is the shit right here.

    Posted by dungmason on 2005-06-14 10:19:16
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    Great album. Great band. And they are playing the east coast in the late summer on HORSE THE BAND'S
    THE CIRCLE TAKES THE SQUARE, AN ALBATROSS, #12 LOOKS LIKE YOU, AMANDA ROGERS, AND BEAR VS SHARK ARE ALL HUGE PUSSIES TOUR. Maybe. God I hope that Baltimore date comes through.

    Posted by Bosco on 2005-06-14 09:56:42

    I loved their last one, totally forgot the new one was out today. I'll have to pick it up after work.

    PS - They got some radio play up in my area (Syracuse), I couldn't believe it.

    Posted by cronophrog on 2005-06-14 03:37:35
    My Score:

    Score's for the turd in my pants the first time I heard these guys.

    Posted by dudehq on 2005-06-14 03:10:48
    My Score:

    so good.

    Posted by lou on 2005-06-14 02:43:12
    My Score:

    Right Now You're In The Best Of Hands owned. if only i had the money to buy this with...

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 2:17 AM (EDT)

    Haven't heard it yet. But I dug their last album a ton, and the mp3 I heard from this one has me sold still.

    -benz

    Posted by CorpseOfMyMotivation on 2005-06-14 01:59:03
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    Their live show is incredible, and so is this album. I'll be seeing them for the second time this week tomorrow night.

    Posted by Archangel on 2005-06-14 01:47:24
    My Score:

    Good review, but why only four stars?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 12:31 AM (EDT)
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    Looking forward to this.

    OC

    Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2005-06-14 00:27:41
    My Score:

    Somehow this band just keeps getting better and better. Fairly new to Bear Vs. Shark, but i really didn't think they could surpass Right Now, You're in the Best of Hands.

    ...thanks for proving me wrong.

    Posted by Anchors on 2005-06-14 00:25:59
    My Score:

    If I miss this band live one more god damn time, I'm killing the people that talk to me about them first.

    Don't say I didn't warn you.

    Posted by swingline on 2005-06-14 00:25:14
    My Score:

    ehhh.. meh.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 12:23 AM (EDT)
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    I totally agree with this review, the vocalist has a very unique voice. Great review, however one negative thing about this band is that I can't see them gaining a huge following. That really sucks because this band is catchy as hell and deserves to be more popular.

    Posted by acclaimedpunk on 2005-06-14 00:16:02
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    yeah, the first two tracks are killer although i thought 6 and 7 were very strong as well. overall, i'm glad to see that other critics are digging this disc.

    Posted by inagreendase on 2005-06-14 00:11:11
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    Nah, this album is better than the Bane disc, though I look at this as:

    The first two songs - 9/10
    The last few songs - 7/10
    Everything in between - 6/10

    Posted by jamespastepunk on 2005-06-14 00:08:12
    My Score:

    Someone's gotta say it:

    Bane is at the forefront of the Equal Vision roster, and nothing short of death is moving them from that spot.