Posted by fletcher70 on 2006-10-19 02:48:49
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intense punk rock....

He's probably talking about crust or thrash.

And to us crust and thrash fans, Champion and Hatebreed are the same monster.

-BSD

ken, list some bands from the other hardcore universe. i never liked the throwdown/hatebree/etc crap and i'm interested

Please, please don't compare Hatebreed and Champion. I'm not saying that Champion are amazing or anything, but to be compared to Hatebreed is insulting in the highest degree.

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 23, 2005 at 3:21 PM (EDT)
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It simply cracks me up that the average "hardcore" fan will never in their lives actually listen to, let alone see, a real hardcore band. I exist in an alternate universe where hardcore music is intelligent, political and challenges the many sacred cows of modern society.

THIS kind of crap, Snake Eyes, also called ironically "hardcore" appeals to the lowest common denominator in our world, those seeking reinforcement of their own lives through fantasies of revenge and the imagined violent struggle to stay alive (even though many are over-privaledged rich kids from the US).

I used to try to get people who were into bands like Hatebreed and Champion to check out bands from the "other" hardcore universe, but I've gotten way too jaded at this point. I guess I'm just writing this to tell anyone who likes this kind of band that there is a whole world you are missing, and at countless basement shows and rented halls around the world you are being laughed at. But you most likely don't care and are gonna "jock" me for backstabbin' you.

In closing, I hope your friends continue to look out for you like famileeeeeeeeeeee. 'Cause you've been strugglin' since you were three and everything. Bye!

-Ken

haha. like that one guy said. hilary duff>black flag. hands down.

Posted by GreenVandal on 2005-07-21 22:59:48
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Hillary Duff. She sells more then both of them. I think that says something. Shes one angry bitch.

the fact that you want to fight bsd and (probably) like what you think of as hardcore just proves BSD's point. Sure I dont aggree with everything BSD says, but he is entitled to his opinion and says whatever the hell he wants. thats respectable to say the least. the problem with modern hardcore is some of the bands that label themselves as hardcore attitudes are the antithesis of those who pioneered hardcore in the first place. If ian mackaye is, in fact, "the godfather of hardcore" then all these hardcore bands with their crews and shit like that are the opposite. ian, above all, encouraged individuality. the whole tough guy attitude is a complete bastardization of what hardcore was meant to be. so you cannot excuse hardcore as progressing. hardcore today is like MTV and MTV2. MTV started as "24 hours of music" back in the day and thats what it was. but today the music aspect of mtv is now secondary in the form of MTV2. the same with hardcore. what is currently being labeled hardcore is for the most part tough guy "spit my rage in your fucking face" shit, while those who stay true to what hardcore is all about have been pushed to the sidelines. think about it, who sells more records? Terror or champion?

You kids need to grow the fuck up (yeah, I'm 18 and YOU should grow up) and open your eyes to a lot of shit.

(after school of course)

Meet him at the flagpole.

i will travel anywhere in the united states to fight bsd. i'm not kidding. give me a time and a place and i will come and i'll fight you.

Yeah, they were, so eat fuckin' shit.

-Georgio Moroder

i guess they were fools to even call themselves punk/hardcore then.

No, I was pointing out how they are not, in fact, "old school" hardcore, as everyone hails them to be. Sure, they're from the late 80's, but they formed after the movement had been around for more or less a decade.

-BSD

so bsd are you saying gorilla biscuits isnt hardcore???

"if this isnt real hardcore than either is agnostic front, the cro mags and black flag. because if one had actually listened to this you would see those 3 influences are very apparant in this bands music."

well, see, hardcore to me is about doing new things. those three bands did. this band isn't.

Posted by RondoMondo on 2005-07-19 22:26:38
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You people are ridiculous. Hardcore just like every other genre has progressed. You can't expect every band to sound like Youth of Today or Gorilla Biscuits. Hardcore ended up progressing and being carried on through bands like Terror and Throwdown. I admit these bands are ridiculous with their "crews" and other bullshit, but just because the music's changed you can't go on saying that they're being fake and that there's no sincerity behind the music.

Posted by GreenVandal on 2005-07-19 21:50:55
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I know what I was trying to say at the end of my last post. The question is...do you?

Posted by GreenVandal on 2005-07-19 21:50:12
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"did you even listen to it? the way you talk about this would lead one to believe youre talking about girl jeans and eyeliner wearing metalcore shit, which would lead one to believe you didnt in fact listen to it.

if this isnt real hardcore than either is agnostic front, the cro mags and black flag. because if one had actually listened to this you would see those 3 influences are very apparant in this bands music."

Actually, it looked more like he was making fun of the "mosh-core" 90's victory records breakdown bro and crew era of hardcore. Ya know. Like Hatebreed or Throwdown. I havent heard this yet. But I sure dont like any of the bands the former members are from...

"This is not hardcore. This is marching music for the clone army of homoerotic (yet homophobic) schoolboys of the fauxcore scene. All this does is damage the reputation of music that CAN be good."

did you even listen to it? the way you talk about this would lead one to believe youre talking about girl jeans and eyeliner wearing metalcore shit, which would lead one to believe you didnt in fact listen to it.

if this isnt real hardcore than either is agnostic front, the cro mags and black flag. because if one had actually listened to this you would see those 3 influences are very apparant in this bands music.

*shit eyes* ????

i will admit this demo is a little weak, but that "insult" was even weaker.

as soon as i read "ex-members of carry on" i knew i had to check this out. it's alright, definitely nowhere near as strong as carry on, but then again, what is?

i'm gonna wait til i hear the full length and can get a lyric sheet before i really make up my mind about these guys. it's definitely better than most "hardcore" out there.

Pure crap.....all those bands all sound the same.

we need more bands like paint it black and champion representin' "true hardcore," not this jockcore, pseudo-metal shit.

Posted by LevitateMe on 2005-07-19 05:45:40
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"I said snake eyes, yeah. It's a gambling term...or it's an animal term. Alright."

score is for mitch hedberg. rip.

"why? dont you like to read?"

i like to read, alot actually. novels should be as long as they need to be to tell the story, but when it comes to reviews, i like them short and to the point

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

"These are the vocals Bane should have instead"

Oh yeah, so that they sound like another cookie cutter tuff guy band. As if that isn't already their fan base.

Idiots with camo shorts and sideways baseball caps will cream themselves over this Shit Eyes music, orgasming about how "old school" it is.

This is not hardcore. This is marching music for the clone army of homoerotic (yet homophobic) schoolboys of the fauxcore scene. All this does is damage the reputation of music that CAN be good.

But as long as bands like this are revered as "true hardcore" (mostly by people who have never heard any hardcore made before Youth of Today or Gorilla Biscuits, or worse yet, Terror and Hatebreed), there's no hope for the subculture to be anything more than a stupid, immature fad. Lyrics as cliche as that should be banned. Enough of this shit about "hunting people down". Enough of this shit about being "stabbed in the back".

They ask why they aren't accepted? It's because no one besides little gay boys in denial wants to listen to this cliche shit.

-BSD

why? dont you like to read?

sally writes the best reviews as far as i'm concerned...i have read a few complaints in the past and whatnot...but i think its about time punknews had a staffer that can write a review in a couple of paragraphs

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

what i heard from these guys was good. 1917 records also has Guns Up!...good stuff.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 12:57 AM (EDT)
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Bane's vocals are good the way they are.

-JL

Posted by stevejonestherealbones on 2005-07-19 00:12:18
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score is for GI Joe, not a snakes actual eyes and not what happens when you roll two ones...score is for gi joe

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

it's not bad. It's nice and fast. What more can you expect?

-kliph

These are the vocals Bane should have instead