Gorilla Biscuits / Black Train Jack

Gorilla Biscuits / Black Train Jack: live in New Yorklive in New York (2005)

Reviewer Rating: 5
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About halfway through the Gorilla Biscuits set, Civ told the packed CBGBs crowd they were going to be playing everything...everything. So if you want a set list, look at the back of their albums because they pretty much played it all. It was nearly an hour and a half of pure bliss. Now don't get .

About halfway through the Gorilla Biscuits set, Civ told the packed CBGBs crowd they were going to be playing everything...everything. So if you want a set list, look at the back of their albums because they pretty much played it all. It was nearly an hour and a half of pure bliss.

Now don't get me wrong; GB broke up before I'd ever heard of them. From what I understand, Start Today came out when I was in 8th grade. I'm 30 now. A lot of the screamo kids with bad haircuts who went to the Warped Tour this year weren't even alive in 1989. So I'm proud to say later that night as I walked out of the club, I got my diploma. I graduated from middle school to old school.

I've seen a lot of punk and hardcore bands over the past 13 years or so. This was one of the shows you realize you made the right choice when you decided to listen to this genre of music in the first place.

When the horns came over the speakers, heads got stepped on. Then Walter played the familiar opening chord of "New Direction" and Civ ran out saying "New York Hardcore, this is for you." I don't think I've ever seen a more passionate crowd. All the glorious trademarks of a NYHC show were there...the finger pointing, the stage diving, the singalongs, pile-ons...it was beautiful.

Amazingly, after not playing together for all those years, the Biscuits sounded pretty tight. They tore through the classics with all the inspiration and fury you'd expect, barely missing a note. Civ may have had it easiest. The crowd sang just about all the songs for him.

Towards the end of the show, respect was paid to friends of the band and the scene who have since passed on, including Raybeez. From there, GB played an amazing version of Warzone's "As One." Absolutely sick. The crowd sang 95 percent of it. Of course, the closer was "Start Today" with Walter on the harmonica.

You should be jealous if you didn't see this show in person or on the Internet. It was something to behold and cherish. I'm forever grateful to Walter for allowing me to be a part of it and to the rest of the band for getting it together one last time to save the cathedral that housed it all.

A few other bands played that I didn't see due to a scheduling conflict, but I did catch some of Black Train Jack's set. I wasn't really too big on them back in the day, but they had a good amount of fans there and sounded pretty tight as well.


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Anonymous (December 21, 2005)

Just thought I'd say... I'm from Colombia, South America. I waited for 15 hours just to see those guys. What did I get? Gorilla Biscuits at CBGB's, front row... holy crap. I got to sing a few words on the mic. Then I lost about to hours in subway traffic cause there was no way to go to queens... do i regret it? no fucking way

Anonymous (October 29, 2005)

What the fuck, I'm 31 and saw biscuits twice....and I'm from the netherlands. This band changed my life!
Get me some info where i can watch the stream!!!

Lambretta76 (August 21, 2005)

Could someone e-mail the whereabouts of the Black Train Jack video? Last time I saw them was in Syracuse, NY, back in 1994, in an opening spot for Sick of it All. Great show, and BTJ had all the Earth Crisis kids going nuts.

Also, does anyone know if they're going to be any other shows, os was that a one-off for the CBs benefit?

stevejonestherealbones (August 20, 2005)

did they have fall out boy come on stage to help them with their songs?

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (August 20, 2005)

im sorry if you didnt get into punk rock until you were 25.
fucking poser

Anonymous (August 20, 2005)

"GB broke up before I'd ever heard of them. From what I understand, Start Today came out when I was in 8th grade. I'm 30 now."

can't you read? seems pretty clear to me.

Anonymous (August 19, 2005)

"how are you 30 yrs old and never heard of gorilla biscuits???"

he said they broke up before he was born, not that he hadn't heard of them. obviously, he has.

Anonymous (August 19, 2005)

i've got the gb's cbgb's set on my comp.
message me on soulseek Sir Nibbs

Anonymous (August 19, 2005)

how are you 30 yrs old and never heard of gorilla biscuits???
you dont deserve to write this review.
thats like being 16 and never hearing of britney spears.

Anonymous (August 19, 2005)

scroll down a bit...there's a link to where it was posted. i'm not sure if it still works, but it's worth a try. (it was also posted in the original news article about the GB show)

Flagjacket (August 19, 2005)

Man, did anyone record the GB set on their computer?

lushj (August 18, 2005)

Just heard the CIV song "Wait One Minute More" on a Nissan radio commercial. Yeesh. That was a great record though.

thetruman (August 18, 2005)

"We need to see the BLACK TRAIN JACK set so badly ... someone recorded it?!?! I`d kill for it!"

See, this is why anonymous posts are no good. If you had an id, I could tell you their set was video taped, and I could tell you when and how it can be available.

Anonymous (August 18, 2005)

she's not even into them. she think she'll be able to stand there and enjoy the show. she doesn't know what she is in for.

Anonymous (August 18, 2005)

"how so douche bag?"

um...thas a pretty fuckin sexist comment. let her do whatever the fuck she pleases. she has just the same right to see KD as you.

RinjoNjori (August 18, 2005)

I only saw the stream, but other than everyone looking older ( I imagine) and weirder (Wally?) things were no different back in 1987/88 in terms of stage presence and the "mob" going wild. Gorilla Biscuits used to get a lot of heat back in 1987/ 88, but I am glad they are getting the tremendous amount of respect they earned and rightfully deserve.

thetruman (August 18, 2005)

My score is for the show, not the review. Why did you even put Black Train Jack in the review heading when you didn't even see them? Here's my review of the show:

First, I video taped the line waiting to get into the show, asking if any of them had tickets, all of which didn't. I knew full well that they'd get to see GB one way or another. Then the hurricane rain set in. I got soaked outside while watching kids wrestle in puddles on the side of the street. Everyone on the guest list still had to wait to get in,and pay the 30 bucks. I didn't mind waiting, just wish I brought an umbrella!

Got in toward the end of the first band's set. Don't remember the name, but they were screammetal core anyway. The First Step was decent fast hardcore, a band that totally fit in for the show.

Now, I'm probably a little biased about BTJ, since Brian and Rob are my friends, but what a great fucking set. I'd say the only thing that went wrong was when Ernie tried to play the harmonica part on "the struggle" Aside from that, fucking great. They played: Time, Mad Doll, Guy Like Me, Leapfrog, Doesn't Matter, Someday, Handouts, The Struggle, Lottery, Regrets, and of course, No Reward. And when they hit the sing along for No Reward, the crowd was going nuts, including me.

After the show, Brian said he felt like a kid again, and would totally do more shows if everyone else did.

Now that was a pretty good spot on GB. But failing to mention how Civ was all over the stage, making sure everyone, whether in front or to the side of the stage got sing along. And made sure everyone got some water too. Amazing show. GB did indeed play EVERYTHING. My personal favorite being him dedicating a song to our friend Nicole,and then playing "Slut" Classic. Starting with "New Direction" and ending with "Start Today", perfection!!!

This show was definately what hardcore is really about. Having fun, sing alongs, and doing it for the people that matter, the kids!

Bonger (August 18, 2005)

how so douche bag?

Anonymous (August 18, 2005)

Hahahaha... You're an idiot.


Bonger (August 18, 2005)

Is CBs about the size of Maxwells??? Going for the KD show on Monday...just curious because a girl is coming with us and I dont think its a good idea. The place is going to erupt and I think she can get hurt.

gladimnotemo (August 17, 2005)

I'd take a trip to Toronto just to see Career Suicide and Fucked Up play. Two of the best newer hardcore punk bands I can think of.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Score is for the "finger pointing" in the NY scene. I don't like people pointing at me, personally.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Not only do those areas of OUR country produce hardcore more competent than that fucking H20 bullshit, just take a look at Sweden and Japan right now.. admit it toughguy, NYHC is general pretty weak stuff.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

I am the "fucking idiot," and I say good "harcore" or whatever rife misspelling you chose comes from:

Toronto, Ontario (just tell me that Fucked Up suck)
Austin, TX (ditto w/ World Burns to Death, Spazm 151)

I just pulled those three titans outta my ass, since I am at work and cannot dedicate much more than a millisecond to dispense of your silly rebuttal.

Yes, I'd add Minneapolis and Oakland as well to my list of cities that produce competent hardcore.

I used those older bands as examples, and I will add a band a bit more recent for you edification: Inhuman. Worst fucking meathead band ever, possibly.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Score is for sentence fragments.

- Little Guy

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

score is for the fool who had never didn't like GB because he had hyped them up too much in his head before he heard them. go and listen to motion city soundtrack you fuckhead

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Exactomundo! Not to mention, Minnie's Extreme Noise is probably the best hardcore music store in the midwest, if not the whole fuckin' country.


gladimnotemo (August 17, 2005)

The Midwest and Minneapolis (especially Havoc Records stuff) has the best hardcore punk/crust I can think of. Just look at:

Caustic Christ / Aus Rotten / Behind Enemy Lines(Pittsburgh)
Brother Inferior (Oklahoma)
Damage Deposit (Minneapolis)
Destroy (same)
Code 13 (same)
Civil Disobedience (Michigan)
Nine Shocks Terror (Cleveland)
Assembly of God (Oklahoma)

for examples. Finding bands like this made me like hardcore a lot more than I used to - the effort of weeding through bullshit metalcore and tough guy paid off.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

PS- How can you deny how great Minneapolis' scene is?

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Well, I thought we were talking about hardcore...

The Midwest is fucking IT for hardcore, right now. And I'm not talking about Metalcore. Actually, now that I think about it, the East Coast has a lot of great bands.

I don't think you should rule thrash out as for what you "don't like"... It's the underground answer for people who don't like metal or grind... Precision chops just sound annoying to some.


sickboi (August 17, 2005)

Oakland? Minneapolis?

Let me guess, some thrash bands playing music that no one but you and 11 other kids like?

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Philly is a fucking joke, just like the Eastern Seaboard. Minneapolis, MN and Oakland, CA are where it's at.

NY isn't all meathead "shit", though.You're thinking of bands from 15 years ago then declaring them crap.


sickboi (August 17, 2005)


Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

for the last comment.. ok asshole, where is all the good harcore coming from theese days? fucking idiot

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

Y'know, without getting nostalgic, NYHC is pretty lame, the good Leftover Crizzack aside. most of that shit is stupid meathead stuff. Think Warzone, Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, Murphy's Law.... lame. What is it with you NY/Boston dudes, that you can't come up with competent hardcore?

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

I think it's a pretty good review, just lacking comment on the opening bands.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

A monumental show featuring one of the most legendary hardcore bands ever, a one time only reunion which took place as part of a historic effort to save CBGB's, and this is the review you posted?

Pathetic review.
Pathetic choice.

Anonymous (August 17, 2005)

We need to see the BLACK TRAIN JACK set so badly ... someone recorded it?!?! I`d kill for it!

PillsAndAdvice (August 16, 2005)

I was at this show. 16 hours in line, but definitely worth it

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

My score is for whoever posted the link to the .zip file of the GB set. Thank you, my friend.

Now, if someone can provide links to the Kid Dynamite/Lifetime shows when they become available...

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)


Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

so fucking amazing i wish i could relive that night every night.

i dunno if it still works or not but here is the stream http://www.naroni.com/~nick/GB/

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

attention revelation records: please release this on DVD. take all of the profits and put it back into CBGB's.

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

Is the set available for download anywhere?

joeg (August 16, 2005)

watched then downloaded the webcast. yes sir.

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

Man, even the webcast was fucking amazing. It was like, More then an hour long, and I thought perhaps it would drag through someparts, but it didn't, it would've been awesome to be there. The pit looked brutal, straight out of the oldschool, with a bunch of sweaty kids packed into club with a low cieling.

moos (August 16, 2005)

fistchode: maybe you just suck!

fistchode (August 16, 2005)

I downloaded the webcast, and when I watched it, it really didn't do much for me. Perhaps because before that I've never heard their music before? Or maybe I hyped them up in my head too much.

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

I would of loved to seen this.

But I'd love to see a Quicksand reunion tour a whole hell of a lot more. C'mon Walter!

bizzlebrizzle (August 16, 2005)

So, how was Black Train Jack?

sickboi (August 16, 2005)

Something about a 30 year old using the phrase "sick" seems odd...

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

This review should just read "Fuck yeah." and leave it at that.

moos (August 16, 2005)

oh, and no score for this review. you suck for not being able to review the almighty BTJ.

moos (August 16, 2005)

all fine, but you can't graduate on a reunion. that is sucky.

longshot (August 16, 2005)

i never pumped my fist in the air while sitting in front of my computer until i saw this webcast.

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

I saw the webcast, so amazing, anyone who was there, consider yourself lucky, you witnessed a once in a lifetime show.

Now hopefully they will do this with KD

Johnny_X (August 16, 2005)

i saw this on a web cast. i was sitting in front of my comp in the middle of the afternoon(i live on the w.c.) shouting along to all the songs. It was great. I am very jealous of you.

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

Rebirth of hardcore pride!!!

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

Holy fucking shit! Everything, hmmmm....

I saw a setlist for a Descendents show in 95 or 96 with about 36 songs!

And that during their re-union show, which made it all the more sweeter...

Well, bittersweet, 'cuz I wasn't there. Time flies when you're conducting major state fiscal policy analysis.

Tom McClintock
California State Senator
19th District

Candidate for Lieutenant Governor


etwiels88 (August 16, 2005)

The stream is incredible. Terrific show.

psychoos231 (August 16, 2005)

i wished i saw that show

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