"why not release the origional songs not some shitty half assed effort by some emo band
some 9ry old kid is still ganna like the emo bullshit played by the bands on the cd rather than something so good as what it could be"

Yeah well as much as I would have rather seen the originals do these songs, you don't sell a top billing game to kids without some names they recognize. If it were a solid marketing decision to have the original songs, then they would have. Unfortunately they're not catering to the message board suburb punk bitching about emo, so it looks like you're shit out of luck.

For what this compilation's worth though, it's not half bad. The only tracks I had a huge problem with was the Senses Fail and FATA ones. They just annoyed the hell out of me.

Tony Hawk has the best songs ever even if u dont like punk or rock the songs r tight

i think the games actully preety detailed .ive got it and its awsome

the thursday cover mde me realise how much i love minor threat
i realised how much tallent they actually had after the mediocore effort of the afforemetioned emo bollocks

why not release the origional songs not some shitty half assed effort by some emo band
some 9ry old kid is still ganna like the emo bullshit played by the bands on the cd rather than something so good as what it could be

adding a fucking solo to the misifts!
it will sounds notheing like the origional
the cover is fucking shit
there is no fedback n the guitars sound controled n bland
this is not how the misfits are meant to be heard and is a disgrace to my ears
i u were plannig on checking out the misfits(which is a rele good idea) and have never heard anything by them ignore thsi piece of gerrard ways molestored shit

Personally, i hate the music on this cd (love the original songs, hate the covers)...however i'd have to give some kudos for their ingenius manuever.

Look at this comment space...and basically everywhere that is covering this topic...All it is are people putting down the cd...and then people sticking up for it, and the cycle goes on and on....this creates a little thing called hype and media. When people who hate the new bands that covered these songs saw the soundtrack track list, i'm sure most of them were like "ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME!? THIS IS HORRIBLE"....but you know they still listened to it. They still were curious.

Personally i think the company used the whole punk attitude, elitism, and basically everyone's mind against them to sell a product.

Personally, if you hate it that much...there is no worse reaction than Indifference. If your angry about it...dont listen to it...dont comment on it...keep it to yourself and your friends that it totally sucks..and thats it. THe more you go out and bash it, the more publicity it gets.

thaw is the best tony hawk game ever

thaw is the best tony hawk game ever

yeah, because a whole generation of kids is going to say "wow, MCR did a great job covering that song...but we thought it was SOOO good that we dont like MCR anymore!!!" c'mon mabye 10 kids nationwide will do that at the most. The 13 year olds who love these bands are so closed minded that they arn't going to listen to anything else new...

Punk rock is cyclical, it has a coming around period of every ten years or so...right now it is dormant. This CD, as reprehensible as it may be to all the purists, may be the very tool punk rock needed to be able reclaim its genre from the "pretenders."

Bad bands happen, but good music is timeless. Take for example a hypothetical MCR fan who has never heard the Misfits before. He absolutely loves Gerard Way and everything MCR does and stands for...he buys this CD for that reason. When he hears MCR doing someone else's song he begins to wonder why his hero would even bother to sing another man's lyrics. he goes online and he Googles "The Misfits" and spends the next ten hours of his life aquiring an education in Punk Rock 101.

Gerard Way and the Emo generation may be able to fool the kids for awhile, but Bad music is Bad Music...And he has just introduced his fans to some real classics, bad move.

who ever thinks that this album is gay,i say SCREW YOU ALL!!!!!! IT ROCKS!!!!!!!

MRC ROCKS!!!!!!!!!

PUNK/EMO MUSIC ROCKS!!!!! AND THATS FINNAL!!

from the Z
(aka ZAK)

hey, this review is one of the best i've ever read. You told us about the album and didn't kiss any ass. Plus I loved the soundtrack and agreed with the 4 that you gave it. keep up the good work

What about Rise Against's cover of Journey's song "Any Way You Want It"? They did great on that song, in my opinion.

Saw this earlier and decided to put it here again at the top. This is perfectly true.

"Besides the fact that they were probably payed to, it's obviously an attempt (that you bought into) to look more credible. "Hey, even though our band is on a major label and we make more money in chain stores than anywhere else, we still like these old bands!!!"

// First: Paid not payed. Second What you're saying is if you're on a major label, you can't like old indie bands, and you especially shouldn't be able to record covers of song you loved from your childhood. I really shouldn't have to say anything about just how absurd that statement is. I LOATHE Senses Fail, but their cover of Institutionalized was awesome.

And, by God, why would anyone want kids to listen to groups you grew up with and loved? It makes no sense whatsoever. God forbid Dustin and Co. want people to listen to Minor Threat . BUT THRICE IS ON A MAJOR AND THAT'S NOT THE PUNX!!!!

You have no argument.//

How influenced by the Misfits are My Chemical Romance? Just because they dress up? Musically, the Misfits were fun, yet tough... Don't MCR just play crappy pop-emo with gloss production? And how much do you think Senses Fail were influenced by fucking Suicidal Tendencies?! Come on...

//Actually, seeing as how faux-violent Senses Fail is, I'd say hell yeah, they were influenced by the Suicidal Tendencies, and seeing how My Chemical Romance want to be both dark and fun, then I can easily say that My Chem was influenced by the Misfits. Plus, both (My Chem and the Misfits) groups are from Jersey. The Misfits may as well be in the water.

Hell, the Bouncing Souls don't sound like the Misfits at all, except for woahohohs and they covered a Misfits song. But they're "safe" to play a Misfits song.

As for Senses Fail, yeah, their lyrical themes about death can be drawn to the Suicidal Tendencies.//

These bands were influenced by two things: Money and fame.

//Your post was influenced by two things: ignorance and trying to be more punk than anyone else.

Do your posturing somewhere else.//"

my thoughts exactly. very well put. VVV

"Also, how is this tribute "paying homage?"

How influenced by the Misfits are My Chemical Romance? Just because they dress up? Musically, the Misfits were fun, yet tough... Don't MCR just play crappy pop-emo with gloss production? And how much do you think Senses Fail were influenced by fucking Suicidal Tendencies?! Come on...

These bands were influenced by two things: Money and fame.

This has nothing to do with hardcore. It's ultra funny seeing people make the connection between Thrice and Minor Threat as I listen to Youth Enrage and Surf Nazis Must Die.

-Will"

This is total crap.
Imagine this.... If you started a band right now and tried to cover a classic punk song like these bands, you'd get shit on too. people would make these stupid comments about you, and they don't know you personally. So it's not alright to make assumptions about the band members' fucking childhoods. You don't know them nor ever will understand them. You should all support them, you don't know what kind of battle they're fighting in their own lives. I say anyone who posts after this comment to bitch about this album needs to realize they should be doing something else, like figuring out how to help those hurt in those hurricanes, etc. If you're all so fucking perfect, that is.

Quote: "In the soundtrack trailer at american-wasteland.com all the other bands are SHOWING RESPECT to MCR for the remake of "Astro Zombies". If you dont believe me go look for yourself."

Exactly. I agree. MCR, FOB, and the others arent getting the respect they deserve. From anyone.

Again, There is a line between voicing your opinion and shitting out of your mouth. You all need a reality check.

one of the most sickening thing i have ever heard of in my life
i just feel like puking right now
yea good idea way to ruin some real fucking sweet songs what a great idea
dirt bags

"thats their excuse for ruining these songs"... do you idiots get off on this stuff? yeah im sure thats what they had in mind by remaking these songs... "yeah lets mess up all these songs... itll be fun!" sure... fucktards.
Oh, and lets see you all do what Fall Out Boy has done by getting this popular. People need to stop being so fucking jealous.

hey person w/ those 5 coms, i agree. obviously, no one has the right to say something so retarted. tell that to my chemical romance

ROCKS! ROCKS! ROCKS! ROCKS! ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The punk/emo culture is all about making individuality a priority. They all made these songs with not only COVERING it in mind but also with making it feel natural, changing up the style of the song a bit so you can tell that they put their own touch to it."

You're a fucknig homo. That's their excuse for ruining these damn good songs. Fall Out Boy doesn't deserve to listen to the Gorilla Biscuits

Now since I havent heard the album yet, I can't say whether its good or not but I do have these 5 things to say:

#1. Fall Out Boy is a damn good band. I knew of them BEFORE they were very popular. They were never meant to become popular. Basically it was a good accident and word got out. Dont say that they are just in it for the fame, as a lot of people say. That's total bullshit.

#2. My Chemical Romance is a band that went through hell to get where they are. Gerard way nearly died, almost overdosed on Xanax pills. He has kicked that habit and has made sure that his band's music is up to par, just as good as those before, but not imitating anyone. They are very individual just like most other punk/emo bands today. If you dont like their music, This is the one thing said that I 100% agree with: "Fall Out Boy. Taking Back Sunday. Hawthorne Heights. Dashboard Confessional. So on and so forth. They're no 311, they're just making music. Crappy music to some, and meaningful art to others. Like I've said a million times over, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but there's a line between voicing an opinion, and just shitting out of your mouth." - someone up there^

#3. Obviously most covers arent as good as the original. So shit on the people who remade the songs? I think not. The punk/emo culture is all about making individuality a priority. They all made these songs with not only COVERING it in mind but also with making it feel natural, changing up the style of the song a bit so you can tell that they put their own touch to it.

#4. In the soundtrack trailer at american-wasteland.com all the other bands are SHOWING RESPECT to MCR for the remake of "Astro Zombies". If you dont believe me go look for yourself.

Finally: If you dont like a song, dont go and shit all over the band for making it, because that just makes you look stupid. I dont like country. Its not my scene. but it doesnt suck by any means. its not my style. Thats all you have to say.

I WILL rate this album a 10 because any album with all of the artists it has is a MUST OWN.

Sucks

Not surprisingly the My Chemical Romance cover of "Astro Zombies" is fucking terrible. How do you listen to something like that seriously? It's so bad it's almost a joke. The singer sounds like a little bitch. That band needs to just give it up.

BSD must have pictures of himself all over his house with a know it all attitute like that. What a fucking loser.

I don't think people have figured out that Mitch's comic up there was making fun of all the people who were (and continue to) bitch about this comp.

"My Dischord record collection wont be going anywhere soon even when the whole drive-thru catalog is sitting in the bottom of some landfill in New Mexico right next to ET."

nice rant but ET was dug up and burned when people were searching for the landfill in the desert and dying.

"Is Will aware that MINOR THREAT wore Nike trainers and drank gallons of Coca Cola?"

Hahahaha

I drank about 6 liters of coke today and I drank them all out of a gold plated air jordan.

Cmon guys, you cant avoid everything corporate. Thats slightly hypocritical but we cant just wander off into the wilderness and fend for ourselves, now can we? Besides that, back in the grey days of the 70's-80's there was no internet or anything like that to get your non-child-manufactured shoes. Dude just needed something to walk in.

And no one can deny Coca-Colas deliciousness so that ones a different story...

311 and tool are so much worse than anything on this comp.

Hellfest was canceled, by the way. Dunno if you guys heard yet.

-Scott

OH FUCK NO, I'VE NEVER SEEN PIX OF THEM BEFORE.

Okay, now that you said that, I'm guessing they actually were actually JUST LIKE the bands on this comp!

You idiot.

-Will

SELLOUTS

-johnny sellout

Is Will aware that MINOR THREAT wore Nike trainers and drank gallons of Coca Cola?

classic bands listed above
hah.

Uhhhh... This generation's 311's? This be too easy.

-Will

I want to have sex with a pumpkin.

I'm only posting to defend the bands here. Argue if you must, I'm just defending the few I know and like.

Not everyone had the chance to grow up with Pink Floyd, Green Day, Nirvana, Rage Against The Machine, or groups/artists that have defined an entire genre.

To compare today's emo genre to that of classic bands listed above is fucking ridiculous, especially coming from some of the damn good arguments I read below.

What you're hearing is pop-rock/punk of today, covering bands you grew up with. Classic bands, legends, heroes of the genre, whatever you'd like to call them, that's what they are.

Fall Out Boy. Taking Back Sunday. Hawthorne Heights. Dashboard Confessional. So on and so forth. They're no 311, they're just making music. Crappy music to some, and meaningful art to others. Like I've said one million times over, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but there's a line between voicing an opinion, and just shitting out of your mouth.

Now, since I LIKE most of the bands on this album, I think I'll more than likely enjoy it. I've seen almost all of the bands on this album in concert, and enjoyed all the concerts (except MCR).

Yes, these bands are "paying homage" to the legends who've come and gone before them by covering their music, so in all honesty, you can't expect more than that: A COVER. It's not an exact replica of The Misfits, Minor Threat, or Suicidal Tendencies. There's only one original. These bands can't come close to the sound and amazement created by the original creators of these songs, but they can decide "Hey, we love your music, so we're going to not only cash in on this oppurtunity, but we're going to show how much we like your music by playing covering one of your songs for this soundtrack."

Silverstein, Hawthorne Heights, all of the emo bands and pop-punk bands of today are this generation's 311's and Tool's and what not's. Unfortunately, they're not as amazing as the bands before them, but for what it's worth, what they do, they do good. They follow a formula or define their own sound and they do it damn good, so they should get some kind of credit for that.

i also think GreenVandal summed it up better than i ever could. though i can't say i'm gonna play Fire Emblem, hopefully we'll have a nice SNES Mario Kart tournie a little later.

and WIll, all this niceness is getting to be a bit much, but don't worry, i'll still bust your balls in unfunny and annoying ways as often as possible in the future.

Yeah basically was to what GreenVandal said, I think he summed it up pretty well.

Yeah, basically. These bands (with the exceptions of Hot Snakes and Alkaline Trio who are broken up and well past their prime respectively) have never seemed to me to put the same raw honesty of emotion as the bands that they're covering. It's true most people get introduced to the broader spectrum of punk rock via cheesier more mainstream bands and this comp may get some of the lip piercing myspace crowd to listen to the real deal and perhaps get a broader musial base but on a more principled level it seems slightly insulting, much like the "Major Threat" Nike campaign.

The bottom line is these bands have every right to over whomsoever they like but by no means will I support classic songs being put through the wringer of bad bands to become more "artificial life in the marketplace". It's not the end of the world or the most disgraceful thing to happen this year or anything but I don't feel like supporting it in any way.

i love a gang bang, oh yes i will
because a gang bang gives me such a thrill
when i was younger and in my prime
i used to gang bang all the tiiiiime
but now i'm older and turning grey
i only gang-bang twice a day

knock knock
who's there
extincts
extincts who?
extincts like fish at the gang bang...

I dont see how you guys can argue against Will on this one. These bands are just a bunch of cogs in the music machine and I bet they dont even realize it. Bands like Thrice are well intentioned, but ultimately have almost no perception of what they are actually doing. I bet covering Minor Threat seemed like a great idea at the time to them, but in retrospect it is just the exploitation of a anti-corporate bands history for corporate means.

I dont see any of these bands as knowingly exploiting their idols. They are just the means being used for the end. Just a bunch of puppets on strings. Seeing any of the bands "honored" on this comp reduced to that is just depressing.

I dont know very much about the history of punk and I probably never will. I'm not too interested in how we got to where we are. But I can tell who is the real deal and who is just going to be swallowed up by the media machine. I dont think I could see myself listening to a single one of these bands in 10 years. I'll defend Thrice but even I know that they are fleeting and insignificant.

The ones that are fighting for their own way and are totally uncompromising of what their vision is are the ones who will always be remembered. My Dischord record collection wont be going anywhere soon even when the whole drive-thru catalog is sitting in the bottom of some landfill in New Mexico right next to ET.

Punk is a genre of ideas and debate. A free forum for a bunch of confused people who no longer know what is right to try and figure out what the fuck is going on. I always felt displaced as a teen and now that I am 22 I feel even more so and trying to find what it is that leaves people like me feeling so used by the world is what makes this music special to me.

I dont know how i got on that rant but the point is that this comp is garbage and Will was right on this one. Even when I think he is wrong it is at least nice to see someone who can articulate his ideals and defend them as vciously as he does. Thats something most "punk" fans seem to be missing these days.

I'm gonna play Fire Emblem for 4 more hours now.

heres the deal, i think i have maybe posted one comment on this website for the year or so that i have been reading it, well, i think everyone who argues over these comments is fuckin retarded, and ppl oh ur a mallpunk, ur not punk, hes not punk, hes not hardcore blah blah blah, quit trying to classify people/bands all the time, who gives a fuck, if u like the music good for you, if u dont like the music, good for you just dont bitch about it, and it may seem like im being a hypocrit for posting a comment, i just need this one comment to post about how gay everyone is for posting comments, and i will never post another one, peace out

Listen here you racists fucks, I'm having sex with this here CD and ain't nothing your hate can do about it!
-Dante

Also, Bolt Thrower was the only band on that list that had fantasy-based lyrics... The rest of them were political. They are on there because their early albums defined the sound of the time.

-Will

"Maybe in your demented little world - to everyone who was listening to punk at the time these bands were one of the first waves of metal spin-off bands. They were easily distinguished from punk hardcore bands by their goth fixation, lyric focus and troll-like personas."

Maybe to you. Since I'm 17, I can look back and easily say that they were the most exciting bands happening at that time. They were kind of the intelligent response to "crossover," I think, since they had an even more extreme sound, but didn't get watered down with crappy lyricisms.

I also forgot to mention the overwhelming influence of peace punk, and of course Nausea, America's first real crust band (at least in the time line).

-Will

hi,

i'm here for the gangbang

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

will-

quit life

-johnny

"Bolt Thrower, Carcass, Napalm Death, Doom, Extreme Noise Terror and others not only formed the musical backbone of the new wave of hardcore"

Maybe in your demented little world - to everyone who was listening to punk at the time these bands were one of the first waves of metal spin-off bands. They were easily distinguished from punk hardcore bands by their goth fixation, lyric focus and troll-like personas.

Will, I don't really get why you post here but just to let you know, you can be into DIY hardcore and still get drunk and sing Get Up Kids lyrics at the top of your lungs with your friends occassionally.

I don't think so at all. I think the network might be a little weaker, but on average, I think most cities have more fans of underground punk than people think. They are represented on web sites or in AMP, so crust, thrash and other underground musics are often typified as dead.

I think the mid-80's hardcore violence and turmoil made guys like Ian MacKaye kind of move into post-hardcore- much like late 70's UK, where violence destroyed the scene and forced punks to form softer "post-punk" bands.

The thing is, if you look at underground hardcore circa 1985 from the popular viewpoint, you'd think it was dead- but a lot of kids survived the violence and still stood against major labels and their tactics. This is where crust punk comes in. At the time, since most American hardcore was dying out, crust punks took more to the UK underground. Bolt Thrower, Carcass, Napalm Death, Doom, Extreme Noise Terror and others not only formed the musical backbone of the new wave of hardcore, but also the diehard DIY ethics and anarchist politics.

A lot of people cite bands in the Youth Crew ordeal as "reviving hardcore"- and while that's true to a certain extent, that was more or less a 3 year fad. It's much more accessible than "crust" and its accompanying subgenres, but really was not as diehard. That scene killed itself with macho bullshit and good intentions acted upon poorly. Even vegan, anti-establishment bands like Earth Crisis were badly executed.

So a decade and a half has gone by, and underground hardcore is still here and strong. Just the other week I saw Asschapel and the Body with a hundred other kids. The idea of an underground network on this level is intimidating at first, but also really rewarding. Next friday, I'm seeing the Regulations in Lawrence. Punk isn't going anywhere. You just have to find it.

-Will

yea, BSD always pisses me off, but he's very well spoken. i begrudgingly admit i respect him.

as far as the DIY bands of today, i know music exists outside of this website, i'm just saying that the movement has been more or less 'dead' since the late 80's early 90's. i'm always very impressed by anyone who can stick to their beliefs, i just find it to be harder and harder these days.

While I can't say I agree with everything you said, Will, I have to say your arguments, reasoning and writing all really impressed me. I really like this rational, thought-out side to your posts. Good work.

The problem with these bands covering classics is not that they are necessarily covering the songs, but the fact that they obviously didn't get anything out of the bands from the past except the music. Minor Threat is amazing, timeless, etc, but Dischord's ethics attached to the music make it even more better. Same goes for most, if not all, of the original bands on this comp. They could all back up their music and lyrics with their actions.

DIY to bands like Thrice and Senses Fail is "We'll sell 5,000 CD-Rs by ourselves, and that's credibility! Punk!" It's something you do in transisition to your record deal with "gives you a living" and allows you to tour 10 months out of the year, while real DIY bands are working to save up to go on tour for a month.

There are. Ian MacKaye still operates outside the mainstream. Felix Havoc was a DC hardcore kid and Havoc Records have been around for a long time. Steve Ignorant still has the Crass commune. Jello Biafra is kind of weird these days (but the dude's been through everything, so that's understandable), but I think he still has his ethics in line.

For most people, punk is a short term thing... But that's true with almost every subculture. I also think that the "extremist" sect of underground rock I dig on is probably breeding people with a lot more comittment than the burn outs from the past. It's not just about being young, pissed off, and playing fast anymore... It's about going along with the beliefs and ethics.

-Will

I don't wanna speak for Will here, but there are hundreds of thousands of bands that hold true to DIY ethics. If you think the only activity in the "punk scene" is featured on Punknews, you have some serious issues.

Will, you always make good points, though i usually think you're a little mislead. it's good to see you admit to being something of a hypoctrite, but some things are unavoidable. i've said before i used to be a lot liek you, but i just gave up, i didn't see the point anymore. maybe i'm a pussy, but i just realized that i couldn't make a difference, even as far as music was concerned. don't you think there's a reason that there's no oe around anymore that truly have the ideals of those 80's bands?

Show you evidence? The lack of evidence is what proves my conviction...

By the way... Senses Fail want to be Suicidal Tendencies? And you say you are a "more discerning listener?"

Clearly outta your league. I don't feel like quoting you and responding to every misinterpretation and idiotic remark you made; I'll sum it up by concluding that you are simply a young kid and don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you will in a few years. Good luck.

AlmostPunk, I am not strictly anti-corporate... I am when it comes to a lot of things, but I'm realistic enough to know that once I'm out of my house (in less than a year), I'm not going to be able to afford the expenses of living a guilt-free lifestyle. I buy clothes for as cheap as possible, often times they are the product of cheaper out-sourcing. I don't know what to say about that. While there is an extent to which I could be miscast as a hypocrite, all I can say is that when I can afford to, I stand against the multi-nationals when it comes to buying stuff. Idealistically, I wouldn't support them at all. They represent greed and depravation. So when it comes to stuff that people have more choices about, like music, fuck the majors. When it comes to punk, especially, I don't support it just for the music. I support it for the ideals. Minor Threat, GI, and other distinctively UNDERGROUND bands of the 80's stood against consumerism and corporate greed. As far as I can see, these bands exist for those things. It pisses me off to see great music maligned by fakes.

-Will

This is a completely pointless disk
the idea of a cover song is to hear a band put their perspective on a classic song. none of the bands on this cd did that. for the most part, they just reproduced the songs note for note. (although, considering how badly some of these bands suck, that might not be a bad thing)
either way, it was a pathetic compilation.

*nose grind*
*frontside 360*
*shits on game and soundtrack*
*parallel reverse-super sideways kickflip quarter pounder out of review*

Ey! Why'd my comment get deleted? I was just stating the name of an African nation...

rabble rabble rabble rabble

Will, in all seriousness, what are you trying to accomplish by being so anti-corporate?

Ugh, I'm absurd? It sounds like you didn't even read what I said. If you want to cover Minor Threat, fine. If you want to cover the Misfits, fine.

But using old music to shill out as an album for mall punks like you is wrong. Using corporate strategies and the overground to whore out the past for MONEY is fucked up.

//I'm only going to say this once more: THE GROUPS INVOLVED like the songs and want people to listen to them. Again, you have provided NO EVIDENCE for your argument. I'm going to do what you won't: On many occasions, and in his second podcast, Vagrant owner Rich Egan talks about how all the groups involved, and speaks specifically about Senses Fail and their cover of the Suicidal Tendencies. As circumstantial evidence, many zine editors who otherwise hate SF liked that cover. It's not shilling out the music. The recording artists on the comp probably want you to listen to the original artist. That's probably why they AGREED TO DO IT.

By the way, you haven't provided evidence for your argument. Just because you say so doesn't make it true.//

If your friends in Thrice and Senses Fail loved these bands so much, they wouldn't be on major labels making the music they make. They wouldn't be playing the safety game for your attention.

//I don't know SF or Thrice. I had sit through Senses Fail to see Millencolin, and I wanted to choke SF. As for Thrice, their live show is top notch.//

This isn't posturing.

//Show me evidence to the contrary.//

You evidently are so oblivious to what it means to have an anti-corporate stance (even if only in music) that you'd like to relegate me to being a wannabe-punk. Get a fucking clue before you try to tell people that their beliefs are all a pose. Do you think Level Plane Records or Jade Tree care about "upping the punks?"

//This has nothing to do with Jade Tree or Level Plane. This has everything to do with you trying grow your e-penis or e-breasts by saying that bands on major labels shouldn't like and shouldn't be able to cover groups that they listen to. Additionally, I bet you believed you could come on here and talk a bunch of shit, and get away with it.

These groups went into it wanting kids to listen to the artists they covered on the off chance they'd buy a CD of the artist they covered.//

Do you have a bias against DIY music or something where you can't understand that it can be and mostly is much more intellectually stimulating than your mall punk.

//I have nothing against DIY punk. I gladly tip bands a little extra for gas and bring them food at shows when I've got extra money. What I do have is something against you.//

-Will

PS- It's okay that you got mad. I hope daddy brings you home the new Thrice soon.

//Oh, elitism and classcism. I'll be honest, I never saw that coming. I got the Thrice from my college's radio station.//

PPS- The fact that you find a connection between the teenage persecution and angst of Suicidal Tendencies and the goth, macabre pose of Senses Fail only preserves your place in mallpunkdom alongside your good friend Jason Tate.

//No, it makes a discerning listener. Senses Fail want to be the Tendencies, but fail miserably. There's a connection, but one end is much stronger than the other. As for Jason Tate, this has nothing to do with that primadonna. This is between me and you.//

2 star tops.

Emanuel, The Bled, Thursday, ALkaline Trio did good covers.

Senses Fail fucked upo Sucicdal Tendencies but cant ruin it...

Theres afew generic who cares covers?

The rest really suck.

what i want to know is why it's okay with all of you jackasses to trhough around the word "fag" like it's a beachball but you prtest "nigger" as soon as it shows up. It's the same thing, fucking hypocrites

I saw MCR in concert and they did the Astro Zombies cover and it was OK. I am a HUGE fan of the Misfts and i love that song, but MCR totally changed it, in a sort of good but more on the bad side. But anything that has to do with the Misfits is fucking awesome. Fall out boy? What the fuck...theyr not even close to punk if you want real punk listen to Anti-Flag or The Heart Attacks...Fall Out Boy? I think they play that shit on Disney...

Gay. MCR buried the already dead Misfits, Rise Against fucked up the Black Flag song, Suburban Home/I Like Food (w the hell? 2 songs in one?) sounds stupid. The Bled fails as a band, DKM tries to do something else, but do crap, and so on, so on. This is the worst Tony Hawks soundtrack EVER.

"Second What you're saying is if you're on a major label, you can't like old indie bands, and you especially shouldn't be able to record covers of song you loved from your childhood. I really shouldn't have to say anything about just how absurd that statement is. I LOATHE Senses Fail, but their cover of Institutionalized was awesome.

And, by God, why would anyone want kids to listen to groups you grew up with and loved? It makes no sense whatsoever. God forbid Dustin and Co. want people to listen to Minor Threat . BUT THRICE IS ON A MAJOR AND THAT'S NOT THE PUNX!!!!"

Ugh, I'm absurd? It sounds like you didn't even read what I said. If you want to cover Minor Threat, fine. If you want to cover the Misfits, fine.

But using old music to shill out as an album for mall punks like you is wrong. Using corporate strategies and the overground to whore out the past for MONEY is fucked up.

If your friends in Thrice and Senses Fail loved these bands so much, they wouldn't be on major labels making the music they make. They wouldn't be playing the safety game for your attention.

This isn't posturing. You evidently are so oblivious to what it means to have an anti-corporate stance (even if only in music) that you'd like to relegate me to being a wannabe-punk. Get a fucking clue before you try to tell people that their beliefs are all a pose. Do you think Level Plane Records or Jade Tree care about "upping the punks?" Do you have a bias against DIY music or something where you can't understand that it can be and mostly is much more intellectually stimulating than your mall punk.

-Will

PS- It's okay that you got mad. I hope daddy brings you home the new Thrice soon.

PPS- The fact that you find a connection between the teenage persecution and angst of Suicidal Tendencies and the goth, macabre pose of Senses Fail only preserves your place in mallpunkdom alongside your good friend Jason Tate.

Use a racial slur TOWARDS THE WRONG RACE once, and the entire pseudo-punk community feels like it got a large cock rammed up its ass.

Reading the comments under this review is worse than those under any news article involving Anti-Flag.

God-awful.

- Kirby

Hearing this guy call people "nigger" and think its funny and then say he has a bunch of black friends as justification really reminds me of how some people think George Bush really cares about black people [insert Kanye West joke] simply because he has Condoleeza and Colin Powell hanging around. There is no justification for using "nigger" in the context of a conversation unless you want to highlight how unfortunate and terrible a word it is.

I just get the feeling the anonymous poster is the kind of guy who'd go to Africa and be like, "Wow, lot of minorities here."
Really I just wanted to use that joke.
Besides if you have to use the "I have black friends" deffense you're already screwed. Seriously though, some of my best friends are gay Asain midgets so I can make jokes about those three minorities.
-Dante

Besides the fact that they were probably payed to, it's obviously an attempt (that you bought into) to look more credible. "Hey, even though our band is on a major label and we make more money in chain stores than anywhere else, we still like these old bands!!!"

// First: Paid not payed. Second What you're saying is if you're on a major label, you can't like old indie bands, and you especially shouldn't be able to record covers of song you loved from your childhood. I really shouldn't have to say anything about just how absurd that statement is. I LOATHE Senses Fail, but their cover of Institutionalized was awesome.

And, by God, why would anyone want kids to listen to groups you grew up with and loved? It makes no sense whatsoever. God forbid Dustin and Co. want people to listen to Minor Threat . BUT THRICE IS ON A MAJOR AND THAT'S NOT THE PUNX!!!!

You have no argument.//

How influenced by the Misfits are My Chemical Romance? Just because they dress up? Musically, the Misfits were fun, yet tough... Don't MCR just play crappy pop-emo with gloss production? And how much do you think Senses Fail were influenced by fucking Suicidal Tendencies?! Come on...

//Actually, seeing as how faux-violent Senses Fail is, I'd say hell yeah, they were influenced by the Suicidal Tendencies, and seeing how My Chemical Romance want to be both dark and fun, then I can easily say that My Chem was influenced by the Misfits. Plus, both (My Chem and the Misfits) groups are from Jersey. The Misfits may as well be in the water.

Hell, the Bouncing Souls don't sound like the Misfits at all, except for woahohohs and they covered a Misfits song. But they're "safe" to play a Misfits song.

As for Senses Fail, yeah, their lyrical themes about death can be drawn to the Suicidal Tendencies.//

These bands were influenced by two things: Money and fame.

//Your post was influenced by two things: ignorance and trying to be more punk than anyone else.

Do your posturing somewhere else.//

If you think using the word "nigger" is ok.....according to your twisted logic, then I guess it's ok if I make fun of the people who died in the WTC.....afterall it's only words right??? You fucking idiot. Oh....and this album blows.

"i am in no way a racist, get that straight. I have multiple friends that are black and they honestly don't care if I use the word around them and to be honest, i don't."

I have a hard time believing a racist jackass like you has friends at all. That said, the fact that you claim you don't use the word around them implies that you know it's wrong and inappropriate.

As for someone like Dave Chappelle using it: you might notice that he usually uses it to make a legitimate social/comedic point. Not to be a pretend punk badass on an anonymous web board.

""So...Can we have sex with this CD?
-Dante"

If you can fit your tiny dick through the hole go for it..."

but what if i have a vagina?

paul

"this comp is total shit, and taking back sunday is the worst band ever"

now come one. you don't believe that. i know you dont . thats preposterous. 'total shit?' no way, i have WAY worse comps than this, jesus , have you ever heard a local punk comp? we have em here in pittsburgh and they're god awful. at least this is intriguing.

TBS is the worst band ever? come fucking on eileen. no way. no fucking way. now i'll admit i'm not a fan, but 'worst band ever'? no fucking way.

please stop making these blanket statements. you freaking fags.

paul

Will comes accross as a fag on the net. oh wait...wait are we saying fag? i can't remember if we're saying fag or gay homo anymore.

steve jones?

for now, please say 'n word jim' when considering use of the 'n' word.

penis!

this comp is total shit, and taking back sunday is the worst band ever

oh and give me a fucking break on being a 'racist'. the reviewer probably isn't even black.

its one thing using the word as a joke. i know if i said 'nigger' while quoting dave chappelle, most of you wouldn't even fucking THINK of bitching at me for being racist.

i am in no way a racist, get that straight. I have multiple friends that are black and they honestly don't care if I use the word around them and to be honest, i don't.

seriously, its amazing how shocking you all think the word 'nigger' is.

"I think that the smug attitude of that sentence and the opinion-as-fact vibe that he gives off sums up a lot of what is wrong with punk music, or the scene, or whatever today. I mean, there's no way he doesn't realize how dumb he sounds in text."

No, honestly it's funny. Listening to Rorschach then reading people argue about a Story of the Year album's depth.

-Will

2) Nietzsche:This town consists of probably 85% minorities
If they make up 85% of the town, when do they stop counting as minorities?

i dont have an account, i was on Nietzsche's comp.
and they stop counting as minorities once they exceed the population of whites in the entire country, not the state.

"I'm sure if you ever met him, you wouldn't throw a punch."

That would be assault - maybe even battery. A better reponse to racists is to make sure that everyone in the community is aware that someone is a racist.

Imagine the poster trying to find a job in his "85%" minority community once people know what a jackass he is. Or imagine him going to school with his "85%" minority peers.

Racism may still be tolerated in some homes and backwards regions, but it's death when it becomes public... just look at what happened to Trent Lott.

Three things (read what you like):
1) If you can fit your tiny dick through the hole go for it...
That's what the Auger is for.

2) Nietzsche:This town consists of probably 85% minorities
If they make up 85% of the town, when do they stop counting as minorities?

3) I eat up scene points like fucking Pac Man.
-Dante

Nietzsche - it's not "an awesome sounding word," it's a racial slur (especially in the context you used it in).

That leaves you as either a racist, a moron, or both.

I'm sure if you ever met him, you wouldn't throw a punch.

Everyone shut up.

This album is ghey.

Bet you think you're a "big man" because you can call somebody else a "nigger" huh? So nice and cozy from behind the comfort of the internet.......lucky for you, because any other time you'd be beaten to a bloody pulp by somebody like me for saying such a stupid fucking thing. Let's see just how "big" you are without the comfort of a DSL connection wise ass.

fixed tags.

fixed tags.

I'm convinced that BSD is just here to spout bullshit and piss people off.

This has nothing to do with hardcore. It's ultra funny seeing people make the connection between Thrice and Minor Threat as I listen to Youth Enrage and Surf Nazis Must Die.

I think that the smug attitude of that sentence and the opinion-as-fact vibe that he gives off sums up a lot of what is wrong with punk music, or the scene, or whatever today. I mean, there's no way he doesn't realize how dumb he sounds in text.

"Its amazing you follow up calling someone a nigger with calling them a MORON, as if that's on the same plain.

And your calling someone a nigger because your more than likely rebelling against your parents right now, and you think preaching subjectivity is rad. You could be using nigger to reclaim its value from its racist use, in which case my gentrified neighborhood thanks you for doing it 'for them', and wants to beat the shit out of you and take your shoes.

wyz"

Way to take the word 'nigger' so seriously. It's just an awesome sounding word. Oh and next time spell 'plane' the righ way.

And for the fucking record, i live in paterson, new jersey. Don't give me bullshit about your fucking gentrified neighborhood. This town consists of probably 85% minorities.
------

"Ok well let me go back to check other reviews that were "originally posted on ________." I just wanna make sure you can call them niggers as well, you know..just to cover all your bases. Take care dude."

at least they wrote "orignally posted on ____". And to my knowledge, that barely ever happens anymore.
----
k pwnd two birds with one stone, kthx!

"im calling you a nigger for posting your review on two websites.
MORON."

Its amazing you follow up calling someone a nigger with calling them a MORON, as if that's on the same plain.

And your calling someone a nigger because your more than likely rebelling against your parents right now, and you think preaching subjectivity is rad. You could be using nigger to reclaim its value from its racist use, in which case my gentrified neighborhood thanks you for doing it 'for them', and wants to beat the shit out of you and take your shoes.

wyzo

Also, how is this tribute "paying homage?"

How influenced by the Misfits are My Chemical Romance? Just because they dress up? Musically, the Misfits were fun, yet tough... Don't MCR just play crappy pop-emo with gloss production? And how much do you think Senses Fail were influenced by fucking Suicidal Tendencies?! Come on...

These bands were influenced by two things: Money and fame.

This has nothing to do with hardcore. It's ultra funny seeing people make the connection between Thrice and Minor Threat as I listen to Youth Enrage and Surf Nazis Must Die.

-Will

This isn't really all that good to be honest. I'm not a Thursday fan at all but I think they did an okay job of The Buzzcocks, and the Dropkicks one is decent but otherwise..meh.

Joe

"So how do you know all these groups motivations for covering old punk rock songs?"

Besides the fact that they were probably payed to, it's obviously an attempt (that you bought into) to look more credible. "Hey, even though our band is on a major label and we make more money in chain stores than anywhere else, we still like these old bands!!!"

It just completely backfired and made me hate them even worse.

-Will

"So...Can we have sex with this CD?
-Dante"

If you can fit your tiny dick through the hole go for it...

I agree with Will. No one should be trying to justify these god-awful covers. This goes beyond simply trying to be "punk," and goes into the fact that the trendy, lookalike bands of the day are butchering artists who were actually original.

This is wrong on principle, I don't care if the bands on this originally got down with hardcore or not, what they're doing now is completely for fame and fortune. That's what matters here.

Shouldn't you be upping the punx?

Anyway, I really, really doubt any of the groups were doing it for fame and fortune. It hardly helps Thursday make a buck covering the Buzzcocks. So how do you know all these groups motivations for covering old punk rock songs?

no shit.
im calling you a nigger for posting your review on two websites.
MORON.

Ok well let me go back to check other reviews that were "originally posted on ________." I just wanna make sure you can call them niggers as well, you know..just to cover all your bases. Take care dude.

the actual soundtrack on the game is so much better, they have fucking PIG DESTROYER and FAT LIP.

too bad they didnt put that on cd.

no shit.
im calling you a nigger for posting your review on two websites.
MORON.

thou art a nigger.

http://scenepointblank.com/modules.php?op=modload&name =Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=593

That's me, moron.

This soundtrack is the lamest thing I've ever seen. Almost as lame as Hawthorne Heights, which I'm surprised by their abscence of. They probably would've let them do Cretin Hop or something, those Vargrant Records bastards.

thou art a nigger.

http://scenepointblank.com/modules.php?op=modload&name =Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=593

The guys who created this should be killed.

Wow, I bet you thought you were really cute and clever with the "ahem" thing. Just because I object to this doesn't mean I'm an inarticulate, cred-hungry "punk." It means that the music these bands made resonates with me, and you obviously can't say the same for yourself if you overlook the motivations of said bands to the extent that you buy into everything they wanted to destroy.

I don't know where any of you people are coming from... This is wrong on principle, I don't care if the bands on this originally got down with hardcore or not, what they're doing now is completely for fame and fortune. That's what matters here.

I can't believe I even have to voice that opinion. It's just so fucking obvious... This is just a joke.

-Will

how can the soundtrack not be the actual songs on the game. STUPID!!!!STUPID!!!!STUPID!!!!STUPID! !!!STUPID!!!!

Dante,

i'll go get my auger

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

I can't believe you people can defend this shit.

"aubin makes a good point. u may hate some of these bands, but most of them probably ARE as big if not bigger fans of these old school bands they're covering as we are"

Thats assuming a lot isn't it?

Either way, the Fall Out Boy cover of Start Today is probably the most contrived piece of shit I have ever heard. Here are my reasons, nicely listed:

1. The singer sounds like he is trying out for american idol, not singing for a punk band.

2. The backround singing on the chorus.

3. The little tough scream bullshit at the "breakdown," if you can call it that. I'm sure all fall out boy fans blew a hot, fall out boyly load when the heard this.

4. No harmonica solo! Seriously!

In conclusion, this cover sucks. Don't give me that " Fall out boy is down with the core!" or "Some of them were in race traitor!" sass. Plenty of people who are down with the core still suck. Chubb Fresh anyone?

I don't know how I feel about this. A lot of bands I dislike covering a lot of my favorite bands. Why not just release a compilation CD of the original bands doing those songs?? I feel it's just dumbed down. The Bad Brains cover takes away the points that made the Bad Brains great(HR's voice and Dr. Know's solos). I AM happy that Bill Stevenson will get a big well deserved check for Suburban Home being on TV all the time.

who is it thats covering "suburban home"(descendants)? ive heard it on the commercial, and it really does depress me.

Way to not mention a whole bunch of songs people might actually be interested in hearing about, like the Descendents songs (whoever did those I forget) and Thrice covering Minor Threat...

Oh well if you couldn't be bothered to I'm not going to either. Go download it illegally (like i did) give it a listen and then delete it all (like i did).

I hate to say it, but Taking Back Sunday's versions were good.

Even the "sassy" screams couldn't kill those two great songs.

i think i'm going to get this. all i've heard was the misfits cover, im a BIG misfits fan, and i think MCR did a good job w/ it. ive heard many local punk bands butcher the shit out of it by comparison.

aubin makes a good point. u may hate some of these bands, but most of them probably ARE as big if not bigger fans of these old school bands they're covering as we are

paul

also, i doubt the senses fail singer is that pissed off. when he was young, his mother caught him with hot girls and miller light.

dude the 360 is goingto be a lame ass peice of shit like the psp is. maybe my tastes have changes, but when i dont like samurai, sports and action/adventure games. give me my DS back

has anyone played the game yet??? i'm waiting to get it on the 360.

i like the alk3 tsol cover a lot... and the senses fail institutionalized is pretty good too... i'm most surprised at how good the saves the day dead boys cover was...

fall out boy can bite a dick though. i'd like to find that singer and take that lame-ass hat of his and shove it down his throat. but i digress.

Oh jesus christ. My Chemical Romance covered "Astro Zombies"? I have to fucking hear this.

This reads like a third of a review. You only mentioned 5 songs out of 14. What about the Dropkicks, Alkaline Trio, TBS, Thrice etc...

This CD divided so many people's opinions, it needed a really skillful reviewer to handle it.

It didn't get one.

"Those "sassy" vocals on the TBS song make Millo seem like he should be getting his ass kicked in high school."

milo probably did get his ass kicked in high school.

I never wanted to listen to this more than once. Just made me want to listen to Milo Goes To College.

score is for mitch clem.

Somehow I couldn't stand the Thrice's contribution to this. I had to skip it. But the rest of this stuff was pretty good. I think I liked the Senses Fail and Saves the Day ones the best. Lets not get into what these bands originally stood for though. Atleast they're all getting paid royalties.

but seriously, the taking back sunday cover is really really good. i cant believe it

Wow... I never thought the day I could listen to Taking Back Sunday would come. I dont know if I want to look into their catalogue, but I give them props on Suburban Home.

I have to say i didn't really like the institutionalized cover by senses fail. I just dont like the guys voice, but it was a decent cover. I was surprised to hear the singer not sound like a pussy. didnt know he could do that. good job.

My favorite song on this CD is Thursday's cover.

It's not like the original Nervous Breakdown is brimming with anger and emotion.

Blasphemy.

Those "sassy" vocals on the TBS song make Millo seem like he should be getting his ass kicked in high school.

So...Can we have sex with this CD?
-Dante

"Paying tribute, but at the same time, putting a unique spin on a song that may have changed their lives, and the lives of too many others to count"

-i listened to all the songs and while for the most part the bands did a decent job, a lot of them were simply carbon copies of the originals. how is that in any way a "unique spin" unless you count the extra sassy vocals in the descendents cover?

"Rise Against’s version of it seemed to come off quite bland, lacking any sort of anger, or any other emotion for that matter."

It's not like the original Nervous Breakdown is brimming with anger and emotion.

for the most part this makes for an interesting listen

although the institutionalized cover is too much of a carbon copy for me

I thought TBS fucking blew ass on Suburban Home, but almost completely redeemed themselves with a naaaasty nasty rendition of I Like Food at the end.

I liked Dropkick doing the Adolescents. Thursday's cover was good too. the Saves the Day track I'm halfway on. I don't like how Conley went about those verses but he made the chorus to Sonic Reducer way catchier than I ever could have imagined it being.

liked the thursday song
alk3 grew on me, was decent

enjoyed thursday

taking back sunday's song was better than their entire last alubm which was mediocre at best

fuck fuck fuck fall out boy

I think a lot people's objections to this stemmed from the concept, far more than the execution. For the most part, these are faithful, reverent covers of songs.

Most of the people playing the songs on these CDs probably love these bands as much as we do.

What was good:

TBS covering Descendents(AND I FUCKING HATE TBS)
Thursday covering The Buzzcocks(AND I HATE THURSDAY)

The rest was mediocre at best.

Fall Out Boy covering Gorilla Biscuits is horrible, but not nearly as bad as Fall Out Boy covering Jawbreaker.

Fuck this review, this shit sucks.

Seriously an awesome CD. High points include the Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, Thrice and Thursday songs.

-Scott