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i got the wrong rating at the last post.

very good album. they did so much with so little and yes, i have to agree with Hein, the vocals, gotta love em dirty. haha

I totally love this album. I think it's got variety, yet every song still sounds like The Loved Ones. It's catchy but in a nice way. Melodic, but not in a pussy way. And yes I have to agree Dave looks like a pained sheep. But he's fucking brilliant! Really want to see them live.

does have highlights but not enaugh, arsenic might be the best punk song this year, but most of the other songs falls flat to me. decent debut, but i'll wait for the followup.

I don't know what it is about this album, but it just doesn't seem to offer anything new to me. The album is a good listen, but after a while it just loses you. There's just not any lasting appeal for me.

It just wasn't anything special.
Still a fun band to have seen!

dave hause looks like a lamb

the second i started listening to this album the loved ones were instantly one of my favorite bands. so fucking good it just blows me away. what music should be.

I like it but does anyone else think Dave Hause sounds like he is in pain when he sings?

I am so addicted to this CD. i bought it b/c i heard of them from some FAT comp and i loved the song Jane that i heard on Fuse.

Anybody going to the Philly show next month?

The latest effort by my home state of PA's band the Loved Ones is nothing short of amazing. I have to admit that lately I have been skeptical of anything that Fat Wreck puts out...but with new releases like this one, and from bands like Dead To Me, Fat Mike and Co. have redeemed themselves in my eyes :). Songs like "Jane" and "Hurry Up and Wait" are some of the more upbeat highlights. This album's sound just rocks and uplifts the listener. Positivity punk at its finest!

Good Album...I like

But this album is pretty freaking good!

I really love the Loved Ones, but I'm not sure I like where they're going. Fuse? All this myspace music stuff? I liked it more when all they had out was the EP and demo, and I was the only one who knew who they were.

This is a solid effort but I can't say it is a contender for best release of 2006.

Saw the Loved Ones last night @ 924 Gilman- they were pretty damn good. Paint It Black were charged up and really overshadowed them since it was more a fast/punk/edge show (Go It Alone headlined). Still, a stellar double bill, Loved Ones/Paint It Black!

As for the Philly summary below by anonymous, I've no idea if it's true but it made for enjoyable reading. Being a Philly ex-pat (left in 1989, way before any of these bands began), I just hear bits and pieces of new Philly bands over the years so I don't necessarily follow them based solely on their ex-band list. Old band played with Kid Dynamite, then the last band played with Paint It Black, so their live shows made me a fan, which made me buy the records. Loved Atom/Package & "The Philadelphia Story" comp, never got into Ink and Dagger or Lifetime (fuck, did I just get banned from punknews?).

Score is for the live show.

I bought this under the impression it was a really good pop-punk record. For someone who defines pop-punk as being something along the lines of the brilliant designs of the Descendents, I was really let down by this record... if this is how people define that genre now-a-days, then that really sucks.

Just got this today. Have been enjoying it emmensly so far. "Player Hater Anthem" rips.

--Steve--

"Hey! I was at that show. I was the person who was passing out."

I was the guy the lead singer from Ted yelled "fuck you!" because I cheered when he said they only had one song left.
Some chick in front of me kept taking hits out of her liquor flask and then puked into her hands.

Just got this, very good. Player Hater Anthem rips the melody from "under the sea" from the little mermaid which is pretty funny.

One week till the new Larry Arms.

Hey! I was at that show. I was the person who was passing out.

I made it to their show and they were pretty good. I feel like a hypocrite for saying those things about Lawrence Arms because they were fucking awesome live. It also heped that NOFX played the Decline.

I can't stop listening to this album..

awesome!

Spider is not gay. Being feminine attracts alotta women. He was almost dating my friend so hes definitely not gay cuz shes a hottie.

I originally gave this a 7 back when it leaked, but after more listens it gets better and better.

9.5

And is Spider gay? He has to be. Has anyone seen the Kid Dynamite DVD? He's gay.
I'd fuck him... if I was gay.

I think this album is great, apparently many people here find it to be mediocre, although I risk crucifixion for saying it, I like this record alot better than fat's other major release for this month, "Oh! Calcutta!".

this sounds more pop punk than straight up rock. after every listen it doesnt sound as good as it did the time before. catchy yes, i doubt ill be listening to it in a months time.

Philadelphia has too many bands with too few people/ideas going on right now.
So kid dynamite ended and reunited twice but they became 2 bands with names that confuse the shit out of everyone. First was none more black who's first 7 inch got me hyped about 4 years ago and took a not so subtle dig at kid dynamite. Then they made a boring album. Then came paint it black and the question "why the fuck did they name their band that when the other kid dynamite ex-member band was none more black?" annoying, but philadelphians are smart and we dealt with it. So they played their first show at the church with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. seriously the yeah yeah yeahs, no joke. So we all left kind of laughing at yemin's henry rollins impersonation. Around the same time they put out a demo with four songs that was neat but kind of dullingly angry. Also the curse were playing around and stealing the show from both bands. Their demo and ensuing EP dominated and they stole the show on the sound of philadelphia ten inch. at this point 3 years ago(?) the curse were really the band to watch and to tell the truth knives out were out doing both black bands, but they fell apart shortly after their "dieing in a snow storm sucks" tour. hey became tokyo who were also good but couldn't get their asses in gear. around this time paint it black got too boring for a good portion of the city to stand and the curse, the band that we were all banking on, called it a day. this led to the loved ones, which had a pretty dope 3 song demo about 2 summers ago and a nice ep, but aren't living up to their potential in LP form. So it sounds like philadelphia really has it going on, but the sad fact is that too many of these lineups overlap and are the same old suspects. people rightfully go check out their early shows and grab up their demos and ep but their albums never live up to the hype. look at yemin's latest effort armalite. just like the black bands, tokyo, the curse, knives out, the loved ones, etc they have long "member lists" but not many great ideas. the red flags should have gone up years ago when early highlights of curse and knives out shows were semi surprise reunions of their old bands stepahead and i hate you. in top of that there are too many kill the man who questions alums kicking around. they weren't that great of a band to beggin with. so it looks like philadelphia has it going on with the punk rock and hardcore scene but to be honest we are bored with most of the bands that outsiders fawn over. its the same ten people making half assed albums. paint it black is almost parody and the rest are mediocre. lets have the curse come back and yemin focus on lifetime only. atom and the armalite crew can go home.

Just you wait until the Sainte Catherines album comes out.

That will be album of the year.

Yeah I should look at what score I'm giving a little more closely.

On my first listen through I had it at a 6. Just didn't grab me the way the EP did. Listened to it a few more times and now it's in regular rotation. 8/10. Solidness.

Cries in Vain - Bullet For My Valentine
go

I think that "New Zealand is like Canda for Australia" call was hilarious

No trigger >>>>>>>>>>>>> the loved ones

prediction for the future:
everyone is going to rave off tap about the new no trigger cd because quite simply its the best punk cd out so far this year...... Yes...... Even better than the lawrence arms..............

Just listened to this all the way through. Not album of the year, but 4 star worthy.

More like Vaginatown.

-Chinatown

After the indescribable show they put on with the Lawrence Arms and NOFX up in Ft.Lauderdale, this album HAS to be worth it.

I agree with Chinatown.

These guys are amazing song writers. People don't often get praised for the ability to write a catchy tune but I'm giving praise to this band for just that reason!!!

Chinatown?

More like Gaytown.

Amirite?

-sirens

Latterman is the most overrated band in the history of this website. They're slow and just not catchy. Plus, their overly positive attitude comes off as contrived.

-Chinatown

(kind of like Latterman, but maybe a bit better).

WTF?! Is this a knock on Latterman? Latterman OWNS.

after 3 listens i'm liking this even more, outstanding album, yet another awesome fat signing in the vein of NMB, lawrence arms, against me, rise against, etc.

is anyone else disappointed with the new bigwig? every song sounds the same and it lacks the 'fun' of their past 2 albums...where'd the poppy shit go? whats up w/ all the 'war' songs? to me its just like political wilhelm scream done not as well or something.

what do you think?

Paul

What you just did, museum, take gigantic balls.

Who the hell cares if he likes fall out boy? It's even more pathetic that he actually tries to cover it up.

The only unwritten law album i like is the latest one.

There you have it, the worst comment ever.

i did respond to what you wrote, dumbass. you thought your broad taste in music was something great. i pointed out the fact that it's not true and did so by giving an example. i didn't respond to the last part of your idiotic accusation because no where did i claim that this album is better than it actually is.

Or someone with a different opinion than you. Amazing, I know.

I'm anything but an AP.net plant. I don't listen to Hawthorne Heights, Panic!, Good Charlotte, MCR, or the rest of the girl-pants mascara wearing scene. My favorite band is The Living End. I listen to punk, pop-punk (not screamo), rock, alt, folk, and jazz.

I love how only one person out of all the responses to my comments has actually responded. Do any of you even remember how to discuss something anymore, or do you just trade insults and dismissals?

Look at historypeats's comment history. This douche is obviously an AP.net plant.

-Chinatown

Eh, what I've heard from these guys is just so terribly average that I can't envision buying this. In my head, I have an image of 13 3-minute mid-tempo pop punk songs that all sound roughly the same (kind of like Latterman, but maybe a bit better).

-Chinatown

That's fine. You clearly aren't the kind of poster I'm talking about.

" I think people are overrating it because the members were in better bands before forming The Loved Ones, instead of judging the CD on its own merits"

I don't listen to any of the members' former bands. I love this CD for what it is.

fft is the best ff

"history pants, it's not that you have a more broad taste in music than swingline, it's just that he doesn't listen to the same shit bands that you do.

and what's up with all the bigwig/lawrence arms/loved ones hate? sorry that the majority of the commenters that come to punknews.org like those bands. deal with it.

personally, i've been a fan of the loved ones since i saw them three years ago with alkaline trio. great album."

Ha, nice one with the name. Ironically enough, swingline and I listen to a lot of the same bands.

Also, I wasn't "hating" on Bigwig or TLA. I just pointed out that what they play isn't markedly different from a lot of the stuff that gets criticized around here. I also listen to their music, just like I listen to the Loved Ones, demos and all.

Seriously, is what I'm saying that hard for people to understand?

Ha, the server ate my first comment because it said I took too long.

No, swingline, I don't listen to Top 40 radio, or watch MTV, or what have you. I liked Take This to Your Grave, but I've been listening to it for years, whereas I doubt you ever have. It's not my favorite CD, and pop-punk isn't my favorite genre. I listen to a lot of different kinds, and therefore like a lot of different bands. The fact that I liked a Fall Out Boy CD before they became a buzz band doesn't mean I don't also like some of the bands listed in your Last FM page, or that I don't have the right to point something out. Finally, it's not like I'm some blind Fall Out Boy whore/fanboy; I saw their live show once, didn't like it, and haven't bought anything of theirs or seen them again since.

Anyway, I like Keep Your Heart, but think it's only worth a 6 or 7 (TTtYG would be a 6). I think people are overrating it because the members were in better bands before forming The Loved Ones, instead of judging the CD on its own merits. It's not revolutionary, it's just decent pop-punk.

You could have just responded to what I wrote instead of pulling an unrelated quote, since you really didn't invalidate my statement about site members' tendency to fetishize stuff that really isn't markedly different or better than the music they hate.

is this a lucky boy's confusion side project? it must be, cuz i like it!

this album is a little disapointing, but it grows on you.
arsenic is better on this album then on the demo, but i dont know about jane. they sound too similar, but it's all good.

they do a fucking song from the curse on the album. if you don't know who they are suck my dick and eat my load.

PHILLY'S FINEST.

hey, historypeats, broad taste in music means good taste in music, right? kinda like top40 radio? right?

"Yeah, I have File Under Black. It's exactly why I fear they're an EP band. If you took out all but like 6 songs, it'd be freaking amazing. The rest bog it down, though.
Oh, no. We like a band a lot that you don't get. Must make us fanboys. This is not just competently played pop-punk. These guys sound better than Green Day does after a decade and a half, and that's coming from a dyed in the wool Green Day fan. Some of us prefer power chords and awesome lyrics, coupled with hooks that put AC/DC or Cheap Trick to shame.
And just because its not artsy or confusing doesn't mean it's not challenging. Go listen to CDs by the bands you listed, specifically the Lawrence Arms' "The Greatest Story Ever Told". Really listen to it, not just give the so-called telephone song a spin. Analyze it. Listen to the way the production actually becomes a part of the song. How Chris blends actual chords with power chords to create a warm yet heavy sound, unlike most guitar tones I've heard on albums. Actually read the lyrics (more Chris's than Brendan's). Recognize the improbably mix of loud and angry punk and restrained subtlety. Try and think of another band that's written anything that sounds like that."

No one puts AC/DC to shame.

eh....the first cut is catchy.

Fatty Arbuckle-
It's my site. Just for contact info. Not a fucking band's. So I'm promoting nothing. Thanks for the wise words though. Fucking think before the lecture.

The Loved Ones - Keep Your Heart
Posted by historypeats on 2006-02-21 01:57:45

The fetishizing of this record, and of certain others, is yet more proof that this board is just as dominated by a group of fanboys as any other. The Lawrence Arms, Bigwig...Jesus, guys, they don't play phenomenal or special music. They play average-to-good songs, and for that a lot of people fall all over themselves trying to praise them.

to the dude a few posts down who's whoring out some shitty band's Myspace site: don't do that. we don't go to your favorite website and shit all over it. don't do the same to us.

no one was hating on bigwig.

dude... ffIX sucks.

history pants, it's not that you have a more broad taste in music than swingline, it's just that he doesn't listen to the same shit bands that you do.

and what's up with all the bigwig/lawrence arms/loved ones hate? sorry that the majority of the commenters that come to punknews.org like those bands. deal with it.

personally, i've been a fan of the loved ones since i saw them three years ago with alkaline trio. great album.

I've seen these guys a few times in the past year and have enjoyed their set each time. Sounds worth picking up.

www.myspace.com/mrkenzington

Captain Crackhead indeed.
If anything, skip the NOFX part and stick around for TLA.

So I'm just loading this on my mp3 player using musicmatch and the genre defaults to Gospel...
How about we change Melodic Hardcore to Gospel-Core....

Not as bad as when I loaded In Reverie though......it came up as Avant Garde....lmfao

I get to see them friday night with NOFX and Lawrence Arms, I wish they could play before NOFX so I could skip the Lawrence Arms set altogether.

This record has all kinds of feeling and substance. Did you read the lyrics?

I think it just has similar production. At least the drums. I don't think the song itself is very similar at all, cause American Idiot sounds like Doublewhiskeycokenoice. Speaking of which, I agree with the guy below, we need a new D4 record.

100k sounds a lot like american idiot

despite having that against it, these guys are still pretty sweet

After reading this review, I immediately downloaded this from Itunes. What a great album. I don't see this leaving my rotation any time soon!

I agree with most everyone posting here. This record/band is fine and good. Defintely not the album of 2006. Not all that great. It's Lacking some kind of feeling/substance. Any band of able musicians could have made this. I'm still waiting on a new D4 or Social D record.

FFIX is my second favorite FF. Quality game. Now that we've agreed VI is the bomb diggity... uh... this Loved One's business is pretty alright. I think I'll get the cd. I might have said that already. Whatever.

Yo, swingline, my taste in music is broader than yours. Get the fuck over it, and quit overrating average songs and bands because you're desperate for Punknews-cred.

score is for jones the bones not commenting

Excellent album!
Can't wait to see these guys on Thursday!

damn...this is a very good album based on one listen. kinda like a more heartfelt explosion mixed w/ a more raw hot water music and maybe some lars fredrickson styled rancid in there. i dig it. fits on fat perfectly. cant' wait for the nofx show. a very solid 8.

paul

call me crazy, but i love ff9

I had planned on buying this today, I decdided however, to wait for the show tommorow evening. I do like this band quite a bit, however!

I love FF4-6, hate everything after 6 (never beat 7, lost interest). 6 is easily my favorite rpg ever.

definetly FFVI. I cant wait till that is released for the GBA......I wonder i f a 3D DS remake is out of the picture....look at FFIII for the DS!

Solid record, it does get kinda old though and isn't that memorable... a solid 8.

On the topic of FF8, let's get down to business here, people. Best Final Fantasy?

I say FFVI.

Good album
But far away from being great

I just bought it from iTunes.

in the coming minutes i will be ordering this.

"The re-recording of Benson and Hedges is nowhere near as good as the original from The Curse EP and the fact that they removed all swearing from it suggests to me that they're aiming this particular record at a much wider audience - one whose mummys and daddys might not like them listening to such 'rude' lyrics."
You...must...be....joking.

so yeah, these guys are pretty good, I don't see what everyone is gushing about though, its solid stuff but nothing amazing.

not bad. but not great either. although i saw them live and they were alright. i'm confused.

great album.

just got it, and i wanna give it a full listen before i give it a rating, but i fucking love the ep.

I can't help but think "playing cards from Final Fantasy 8" when I look at that cover

okay, but seriously.....i can think of about 900 million bands that are more interesting and envigorating than the loved ones. not that they're a bad band. they're fine. but come on! how could this possibly be the best record of 2006???

Wait, is one of you homos talking shit on the lyrics?

The lyrics are some of the best parts!

If you haven't heard it already, you can listen to the whole album here, .

http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds?defaultTab= 11

This is the kind of music Midtown would right if they weren't such huge pussies.

I would give this a 7 because I had very high expectations for this record and i was a little disappointed. I'll give the vinyl 1.5 more because it is on black marble and it came 2 days after i ordered it.

The EP was one of those records where I would enjoy if I had it on, but it never jumped out at me when I was flicking through my stuff. I don't know if I'll bother buying this.

this really is the definition of punknewscore

In a good way or a bad way?

"my mind works in spectacular ways and it makes sense in mine"

This should be the slogan of Punknews commenters everywhere, myself definitely included.

the band sounds really good and is best experienced when you can hear the vocals, but can't decipher the mundane lyrics. repeated listens allow the listener to pick up more lyrics and the songs decrease in quality quite a bit, but damn, listening to this for the first time was goddamn envigorating.

of course i knew that kirby...that's why i put commenters and readers, and not just readers. maybe it still doesn't make sense to you guys, but my mind works in spectacular ways and it makes sense in mine

"Of course, the fact that this band includes members that formerly had been playing with Kid Dynamite, the Curse and Paint It Black didn't do them any bad for that matter, either. You can say they grew up in the right neighbourhood."

After reading those two sentences, I figured out that the album isn't worth buying.

But we need a review so that we can all comment on it. :)

Also, about the question of the cussing being removed from Benson And Hedges. I have no idea why, but it wasn't removed from Arsenic, and the lyrics to that song would probably offend most parents before a few swear words would. So I'd venture to say there was another reason Benson And Hedges was changed.

why even review this record? i think its pretty clear that 90% of commenters/readers are in awe of this band and the other 10% think they sound like every other pop punk band out there.

That doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if you know this or not, but the amount of people that comment the contributors are no signs of the plethora of people, bands, record labels, etc. that actually read PNdotO.

- Kirby

why even review this record? i think its pretty clear that 90% of commenters/readers are in awe of this band and the other 10% think they sound like every other pop punk band out there.

"The re-recording of Benson and Hedges is nowhere near as good as the original from The Curse EP and the fact that they removed all swearing from it suggests to me that they're aiming this particular record at a much wider audience - one whose mummys and daddys might not like them listening to such 'rude' lyrics."

Yea I'm sure they met in the corporate boardroom and started talking target audiences and the effects cussing have on sales and image.

anyone saying that the demo versions of "jane" or "arsenic" are better is probably just saying it to sound hip. the demo versions have so many unnecessary parts (which the band obviously realized) and the LP versions are so much more concise and to the point.

so i'm "hip" because i liked the way the lyrics were written for The Odds in the demo version a little bit more than the album version? don't make stupid-ass assumptions, please.

-phdecontrol

I’m not sure if this music is "2006 enough" for the younger kids, who according to me seem to prefer either the harder (emo) hardcore or the more mellow, cleaner work

you mean "2001 enough?"

anyone saying that the demo versions of "jane" or "arsenic" are better is probably just saying it to sound hip. the demo versions have so many unnecessary parts (which the band obviously realized) and the LP versions are so much more concise and to the point.

great review for an oustanding record. best pop punk record to come out in a LONG time.

that was a really horribly written review...i mean awful

i really wanna check out the album though cuz i hear it's excellent

Swingline - Way to treat that mother-fuckers LIFE.

Fact of the matter is that the nu-emo/hardcore trend will die out, just like any other trend does. And the labels that are pumping out that shitty music will probably go under as well. Fat Wreck on the other hand, is putting out good music that is timeless.

Imma pick this up.

boring and generic.

That comment was a reponse to two different people if that's not clear. Haha! Sorry.

Yeah, I have File Under Black. It's exactly why I fear they're an EP band. If you took out all but like 6 songs, it'd be freaking amazing. The rest bog it down, though.
Oh, no. We like a band a lot that you don't get. Must make us fanboys. This is not just competently played pop-punk. These guys sound better than Green Day does after a decade and a half, and that's coming from a dyed in the wool Green Day fan. Some of us prefer power chords and awesome lyrics, coupled with hooks that put AC/DC or Cheap Trick to shame.
And just because its not artsy or confusing doesn't mean it's not challenging. Go listen to CDs by the bands you listed, specifically the Lawrence Arms' "The Greatest Story Ever Told". Really listen to it, not just give the so-called telephone song a spin. Analyze it. Listen to the way the production actually becomes a part of the song. How Chris blends actual chords with power chords to create a warm yet heavy sound, unlike most guitar tones I've heard on albums. Actually read the lyrics (more Chris's than Brendan's). Recognize the improbably mix of loud and angry punk and restrained subtlety. Try and think of another band that's written anything that sounds like that.

I don't know, it's a catchy album, it's an improvement on the EP, but I don't know. I still think this is really average pop-punk.

OMG!@! The original version of "The Odds" is better!!!!111111111

Kidding.

I really like this record, but it is missing something with me. I think it maybe a bit too glossy and the re-recording of "100k" is a perfect example of what is holding the album back from my favorite record of the year.

- Kirby

The re-recording of Benson and Hedges is nowhere near as good as the original from The Curse EP and the fact that they removed all swearing from it suggests to me that they're aiming this particular record at a much wider audience - one whose mummys and daddys might not like them listening to such 'rude' lyrics.

It's good, but not that great. I'm not a Loved Ones hater. I love seeing Dave Hause and company live. I guess it didn't blow me away like it did with everyone else.

Regardless, it's a solid punk record. But see them live. There lies in the treat.

Ramo

This may be the best record of the year, I don't think that anything could really top this.

Can't wait to pick this up.

I wonder if it will be available on iTunes tonight.

The redone "100K" is OK, and the demo version of "Jane" is probably better, but overall I love this.

i'm sure this is good, but in no possible way does stuff like this deserve a 9.

this really is the definition of punknewscore

Player Hater Anthem sounds like Under The Sea from the Little Mermaid.

Good stuff. Good review, Hein.

Fucking awesome album for sure.

great record. it will be on my best-of 06 list. "breathe in" is a fantastic song. i'll take these dudes over any one of the generic emo bands cluttering up music right now.
-TOBB

I like this and I wouldn't give it more than a 6. Ludicrous.

classic comeback!

Re: Fall Out Boy plan "From Under The Cork Tree" reissue (Score: 1)
by historypeats on Thursday, February 16, 2006 at 1:03:29 AM (EST) (User Info)

Coming clean:

I loved "Take This to Your Grave" when it came out a couple of years ago, and had high hopes for this, but never got around to it - I was turned off by a combination of their poor live shows and overzealous bandwagoners.

However, I might pick this up, even though the stuff I've heard off it so far makes me think that the prior album was better. So y'all who insist no one who comes to this site likes them can shut up now.

(and I'm not going to list a bunch of punk bands I like to try to gain credibility/avoid flames, so deal with it)

shut up.

"dance dance, you fall out boy loving puppet"

I love pathetic retorts.

Shit. I forgot this came out today... I'd better get to ordering it...

...evildeadalive

really good, but not as overly solid as the EP. it woulda helped to come out in warmer weather too.

"this page is a bunch of fan boys nad even though i don't really like the bands you mentioned (larry arms/ bigwig) nah... had nowhere to go past that. fuck those bands. this one, kid dynamite ok, but those two.. fuck anyone who likes them, including my roommate. they have shitty taste"

dance dance, you fall out boy loving puppet

mr or mrs, historypeats i agree

this page is a bunch of fan boys nad even though i don't really like the bands you mentioned (larry arms/ bigwig) nah... had nowhere to go past that. fuck those bands. this one, kid dynamite ok, but those two.. fuck anyone who likes them, including my roommate. they have shitty taste

"[100k] really was, and still is, a marvel, and without any doubt helped them getting signed to Fat Wreck Chords."

See, there really isn't much difference between 100k and most of the melodic/pop-punk out there. It's played well, but so is most of the stuff on the radio. It doesn't break any new ground, it doesn't challenge you - it just treads old ground very competently.

The fetishizing of this record, and of certain others, is yet more proof that this board is just as dominated by a group of fanboys as any other. The Lawrence Arms, Bigwig...Jesus, guys, they don't play phenomenal or special music. They play average-to-good songs, and for that a lot of people fall all over themselves trying to praise them.

Keep Your Heart is a good record, but it won't change the world, and it definitely isn't near-perfect (as a 9 would indicate).

"Let's hope the Falcon and None More Black can impress me similarly this year."

Scruffy did you somehow miss "File Under Black" by None More Black? That is a scortcher of a full length, especially for a debut full length. The EP was a step up from it, but that record proved they can put out a solid LP.

Record release show in Philly is going to be fun

Great disc. Fat's really on a roll this year with Randy, this, and Larry Arms as their first three releases of 2006.

Hey Scruffy are you serious? Because I felt the exact same way about the EP, that overall it was mediocre.

The EP only really had 2 great songs. It was all sweet, but the 3rd song was a HWM ripoff, the 4th was all acoustic, so it didn't have as much "umph!", and the last song seemed to center around just one riff. The first two were what made it. This CD has 13 songs as good as those first two songs, including a song that sounds kinda like Lifetime (Over 50 Club).

EP was way better.

That first sentence was meant to be a question. It sounds rude as a declarative statement.
Anyway, didn't he? Someone know? I'm too lazy to dig out the booklet.

McTernan did the EP as well, didn't he. So it's not his fault that 100K might seem lackluster, though I think it's just as awesome as the original. Definitely not a step up, but some changes of the kind that any of us might sing it differently when we're bored and alone in the car. Definitely for the fans who know the EP version.
And so what if the lyrics are kind of a downer? Most artists tend to use their art to exorcise their demons. I know I do. It's not that life always sucks or things are so bad, boohoo me. It's that, when things are down, not only is it very inspiring, but one of the best ways to work through it is by writing. And, when you're writing, the hope that maybe whjat you're writing will help someone else going through the same thing someday helps you out as much as the confessiopnal nature of songwriting does.
This album is awesome. I was worried before I bought the album today that The Loved Ones would be more of an EP band, and that a full-length would drag on too long. Not so. Let's hope the Falcon and None More Black can impress me similarly this year.
My only complaint with the album is, as Hein mentioned, that so many songs start the same way. Vocals over guitar for half of a verse and then the drums and bass kick in. If the next album has the same thing, it could be bad, but for these few songs, it works.
This is the first album I've bought this year that will be on my best of 2006 list.

You forgot to mention ex-Trial By Fire.

This album sounds really sweet so far. "Sickening" is so good. I can't wait to hear these new tunes live when I see them in a few weeks.

I listened all the way through this album for the first time today, and I'm pretty into it. Before today, I really didn't understand all the hype behind The Loved Ones, but I think now I'm kind of starting to. I'll give it a solid 8.

i think this album drops a star every 2 weeks of consistant listening.