i can't stop listening to this album. definitely going to end up in top 3 for 2006.

hey obvious ex-band member who's pissed off...
let's check your shit out shall we?
www.myspace.com/wiv

ouch

That first Grey Flight podcast had a new Whale|Horse song on. Good stuff, anyone got any demoes or something they wanna yousentit/me?

yeah...

whalehorse is pretty great... i saw them once on a field trip to chicago...

as far as moss goes, he's one of my favorite people in chicago... yeah, his bands tend to fit into genres that are getting attention at the time, but that can be said of many people... he could be playing a dozen other kinds of music right now and you could say the same thing, so that point seems void to me...

more importantly, it seems that whatever style he takes on, he does it right... his lyrics are always phenomenal, and the music is always top notch...

so, ummm...

here's to brian...

667

anyone else heard the new many members of the honor system band whale horse?

fucking great. speaking of chicago.

wyzo

It's very much decent and better than his other stuff. Brian Punknews can prefer Brian Moss' hook laden electropop, but this is a much more mature release, playing up the alt-country aspect.

Great country rock vocal harmonies reminiscent of Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead.

And as for Moss himself, the man does more to keep Chicago music alive and kicking than anyone esle. The guy basically heads the South Arts Place or whatever the hell it's called and also turned his apartment into a venue and promotes and books shows all the time. The guy is aces in my book.

I haven't heard this, but that Trust Foundation ep Brian Moss and Steve Choi put out a couple of years ago was fucking awesome.

for people who've had problems with brian, it should be noted that if you read the lyrics the man has written their is a HUGE portion of them that are very self-conscious about critics, and having something done with no expectations being torn apart by fans, critics, and anybody for no reason.

One worrying thing about the last Ghost LP was that it seemed almost a preoccupation, like the criticism got to him, and I would say paralyzed his attention. Almost Every song was self-aware about it being listened to and judged as a song, with his guard up, very defensive. I felt sorry for him because it seemed like "they" won, he didn't want to care about what people thought to the point all he sung about was not caring what they thought, very tense, but great record.

So I imagine he may be somewhat reserved to just put himself out their to every person who expects to be entertained or be pals. He's human.

wyzo

I think hurricane is the singer

hurricane is pathetic and in love with the singer

get over it. play or create on your own. the public eye is a funny and envious entity. in the big scheme of things all of this comes of as comedic and entirely unimportant. although I greatly appreciate the people that contribute to this site and provide it, the commenting and anonymity is pathetic. worry elsewhere and contribute something other than petty complaints.

funny how this guy's bands have basically followed the trend of whats popular, ska, punkish, more hardcoreish, postal service ripoff, folk indie. and he was kind of a dick to me when i saw him play

These guys put on a good show, and Brian has never been pretentious on the many occasions that I have met or ran into him in Chicago.

"should have seen him when he played in the bay area ska band Alien Spy. But I'm sure nobody remembers that."

your right. nor care.

talk about holding a grudge. you were in some random ska band over a decade ago that your still holding a torch for on the internet?

cmon man, go to a meeting, see a movie, what the hell are you doing with yourself?

Incidentally, this gets 3 stars for redundancy to the 6 for the new NOFX EP which is pure formula. the world is a strange place.

wyzo

Brian can be a bit of an ass, but the record is still amazing. Far better then the first one and without a doubt one of my favorite records of the new year.

thick records..please..you once gave me hope with haymarket riot, blue meanies, and various other kick ass bands. this pansy fest must stop. thank you.

Though I can't comment on the guy below me on Brian Moss personally (as I've never met him) the Hanalei bio mentions he's a Bay Area transplant.
Besides I doubt many people would connect him to an old local ska band. Tons of Bay Area bands (esspecially in the late 90's) go around with no one knowing of them outside of the Bay Area. Spishak, Anti-45, ULC, The Jocks, P.O.P.S....Ah, High School. Admittedly, not as into local music as I was. Something about going to shows at the YMCA with a bunch of 15 year olds loses it's appeal.
-Dante

I don't like drum machines, so I think I'll like this album much more than the last. Despite that, there were some very enjoyable songs on that release, so we'll see.

sad

Brian Moss in an overly-pretentious twit. You should have seen him when he played in the bay area ska band Alien Spy. But I'm sure nobody remembers that. I played with him in another ska band callled the Gangstas Of Love. The Wunder Years were cool but everything after that has been pretentious crap with shitty out of tune emo-shit-fit vocals. If he was smart he'd have somebody else sing at least. His vocals sound like two cats having sex, but far less appealing.
I think he moved to Chicago (a town he claims although he was raised in the berkley area of CA) to avoid the embarassment of being in a band like Alien Spy and to evade his reputation for being an overly-controlling asshole with anyone hes ever played with. Don't even waste your time with this release.

Hmm, any other opinions on this? I love the first album. Really looking forward to this.