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Rise Against: The Sufferer & the WitnessThe Sufferer & the Witness (2006)
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Reviewer Rating: 4
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Contributed by: AubinAubin
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The success of Siren Song of the Counter Culture, Rise Against's previous album, should have been a surprise, but frankly, I must admit that it wasn't. The single that broke the band was a simple contribution to a little compilation called Punk Goes Acoustic. But even then it was clear that it was a.


The success of Siren Song of the Counter Culture, Rise Against's previous album, should have been a surprise, but frankly, I must admit that it wasn't. The single that broke the band was a simple contribution to a little compilation called Punk Goes Acoustic. But even then it was clear that it was a little moment of greatness; a powerful hardcore/punk band channeling their emotion through a simple acoustic song, and when it was re-recorded and released on Siren Song, I knew that it would have an impact.

That's not to say that I even understood what happened when the band left Fat Wreck Chords and signed to Dreamworks; I loved the album that garnered them major label attention, but it seemed too honest, too dark and too real to be force-fed through glamorous MTV singles; they didn't have the striking image of an AFI, or the friendly snottiness of Green Day. But I had faith; the label might try to change them, but I knew they'd refuse, and for the most part, they did.

The one disappointment then, was that they were coupled with a talented hitmaker producer that unfortunately just didn't understand this genre of music. His influence resulted in an album that suffered in small but significant ways as he tried to force the band's gritty Midwestern sound into a slick modern rock package. To their credit, the band managed to keep things somewhat raw despite his influence, but it seemed clear to any fan that something wasn't right. It was a good album, but not as great as Rise Against could be.

With The Sufferer & the Witness, Rise Against has delivered an album that fixes those problems and surpasses Siren Song and their previous best Revolutions Per Minute handily and also expands the band's range without changing their sound. Lyrically and musically, this is a surprisingly dark record, and powerfully single-minded and cohesive. Tim's vocals are at the forefront, delivering scattered snippets of shout-along rage, interspersed through some remarkably strong and anthemic melodies, his voice conveying both abject despondency and earnest hope throughout.

Tracks like "Injection" and "Drones" are perfect ragers, delivered in Rise Against's trademark double-time, replete with apocalyptic imagery derived from very real fears. The first single, "Ready to Fall," with its devastatingly powerful video, is an escalating, complex track with a throat-shredding bridge, and a compelling chorus. Even the album's more unorthodox moments, like the mumbled opening lyrics of "The Approaching Curve," are carried by powerful choruses and an incredibly tight instrumental section.

The next potential single is also the dramatic "Roadside," in which Tim couples his increasingly confident vocals with the stunning voice of Holy Roman Empire's Emily Schambra; it's not an acoustic single and certainly not the graduation day parade of "Swing Life Away," but it's a beautiful song, driven by minimal instrumentation and tasteful use of strings. Closing the album is the anthemic "Survive," which sounds like the best of Revolutions with a shredding guitar riff and warp-speed drumming.

Production is another highlight of the record; having returned home to Bill Stevenson's Blasting Room studios, Sufferer sounds like Rise Against should. It's flawlessly recorded, but never sterile, and in many ways, Stevenson demonstrates how he is really the fifth member of any band he produces. The vocals are solid, guitars are warm and thick, and the rhythm section is driving but never dominant. Listening to Sufferer, it becomes clear how wrong any other producer would be for this band.

In my review of Revolutions, three years ago I commended Rise Against for their ability to convey emotion without succumbing to self-pity; with their ability to be catchy without writing pop songs, and with their reverence to roots steeped in hardcore punk. With Sufferer, the band maintains this virtue, while continuing to evolve as songwriters, musicians and as people. Another incredible effort from one of the finest outfits around today.

 

 
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BorgieBaby (April 20, 2012)

I think this one of the first cd's i really listened to that i got into, really good, even though I had the version with Survive censored, like wtf Rise Against, I thought you guys were punk, not conformists that listen to what their record company says.

Oh well, Rise Against never really seems to dissapoint me when it comes to their actual music. Mainstream punk that is actually good.

majorthreat (October 29, 2011)

What punk band would allow their album to have a parental advisory sticker on it?

TommyGonzalez (October 1, 2011)

This album is the real deal for Rise Against. Some songs such as: Injection, Prayer of the Refugee and Drones are the main reason I listen to music.

Baxter (February 15, 2011)

This cd really opened my eyes to the Punk genre. Prayer of the Refugee sort of got me a feeling of independence and also a feeling for a desire to change the government. Rise Against is my inspiration

madeincanada422 (June 27, 2010)

Undoubtedly, Sufferer is the best album I've heard from Rise Against. Being a drummer, Brandon's part in the band really sticks out to me. The percussion in Sufferer is more creative than in past albums and Appeal to Reason. I also like the way the lead guitar doesn't push the rhythm guitar into the background. Instead, they remain equal for the most part, with each one becoming more pronounced at certain times. Also, Sufferer focuses more on life and less on politics.

ndSpaz (September 6, 2008)

It's great! Ten stars!

thomas7155 (August 13, 2008)

Really good record, but I think "Appeal to Reason" is going to top it.

thedudeovethere (August 2, 2008)

soory this is my note

thedudeovethere (July 31, 2008)

After listened to them older alubm i think that this one is them better for now. I listened it so many time that i'm getting bored but in a few month i think that i will re listen it, that's a good cd to buy, really.

crayZsaaron (May 24, 2008)

Bill Stevenson did a really good job on this album. It has a very "full" sound. The songs are fierce and they never slow down, save "The Approaching Curve" and "Roadside". The lyrics are amazing responses to the problems of today's world.

This album is a 10.

PromisesLeadToLies (May 19, 2008)

I got "The Sufferer & the Witness" nearly two years ago for christmas and I still listen to it almost everyday!! I was really able to relate to what they were singing about, well most of it anyways.

sumblinkkid (February 10, 2008)

great album, amazing band anyone who likes any of their previous albums will definitely like this one.

thomas7155 (August 31, 2007)

yeah, this is a solid album. its not their best, but its solid. hell, at times its more hardcore than Siren song.

Derek99 (August 22, 2007)

woops i ment

Derek99 (August 22, 2007)

good solid cd. i got it the day after it came out and its still brilliant

jimmyjjackamoose (June 10, 2007)

fuckit, i'll listen to this all summer the same way you 30-ish types did pennywise in 96!!! punk will never die!!

jimmyjjackamoose (June 9, 2007)

favorite band, but there's something about this CD, be it lack of screams/solos or just mainstream-ness that prevents me from enjoying this.

RadiantCountry (April 28, 2007)

I cant stop listening to them. There so fucking good!

nybaseballa2142 (March 8, 2007)

each album gets better and better so fuck anyone who doesnt think so

tjrocks12 (February 13, 2007)

pretty damn good. i just hate major labels and this is clearly them trying to retain their Punk Rock roots, which i find acceptable. its just that the punk rage isn't there anymore. its kinda like major-label bad religion but worse. but their first two records kinda changed my life, so its hard to bitch. i mean, come on, a P.R.M.C label on the front!?!?!?!

Anonymous (February 9, 2007)

pretty good album, but its mad lame that they are touring with MCR.

Anonymous (December 19, 2006)

i wanna fuck all the band members slutty wives up the hershey highway

seanstrummer (December 12, 2006)

it's a grower, but a very good record.

Anonymous (December 6, 2006)

The Unraveling = good,
all their other albums = shit.

cannsaw (November 30, 2006)

Favourite album of the year so far, Chamber The Cartridge is a song I liked straight away, it took a while for me to get into the rest, as one night I realised how amazing Under The Knife, Prayer Of The Refugee, Drones, Behind Closed Doors, Worth Dying For and The Approaching Curve were, and later got into Survive followed by The Good Left Undone and Roadside.

Injection and Bricks took longest, Injection is now one of my favourites, but now although I like Bricks, I'd say it is my least favourite on the album.

istapledmyfoot (August 10, 2006)

Maybe it's because i'm like, all smart and arty now but I bought this album out of nostalgia and was kind of bored by it. RPM is still pretty kick ass every now and then, and this sounds almost exactly the same.. but it just doesn't quite do it for me. The production is super clean, and the whole presentation is just too heartfelt for it's own good, like they could take themselves slightly less seriously, i.e. that kick ass Journey cover. Oh well.

rejectedbyrequest (August 8, 2006)

Rise Against is one of the best punk bands out there, anyone who says otherwise doesn't know a fucking thing about music. This is an amazing album, best songs being "Injection, Prayer of the Refugee, Drones, Chamber of Cartridge and Behind Closed Doors". The female vocals on "Roadside" take the song much farther, and anyone who can't understand the cover art shouldn't talk about it. Bloody amazing.

treos (August 6, 2006)

Fuckin great cd, my favorite by rise against yet. Only gripe is that ready to fall doesnt carry the hardcoreness from the chorus all the way through, it gets a bit poppy but other than that FUckin A!

Hezza (August 1, 2006)

Heard it twice on the way to work cant wait to knock off, makin the drive worthwhile

Poison_Operation (July 17, 2006)

Okay, this album really has grown on me. There is not a bad track on here. The only real complaint I have is the opening track. While "Chamber the Cartridge" is a great song, I just wish Rise Against would've opened with one of their more hardcore numbers, like they did with "Siren Song..." I like openers that knock me in the teeth.

Good thing I listened to this before I broke out Refused's "The Shape of Punk to Come," or I might have not gotten to this until two months from now.

Anonymous (July 13, 2006)

Good review, but a question for aubin:

If you consider this "an incredible effort from one of the finest bands today," and you think this is their best album, why only four stars and not five?

Poison_Operation (July 11, 2006)

Yeah, this will definitely have to grow on me. I'm on my third time listening to it, and it's literally growing on me one track at a time as of this writing. Oddly enough, the songs that have grown on me include "The Approaching Curve." Weird, I know, what with the spoken word and everything. The other two that have grown on me thus far are "Roadside" (in which I agree with Aubin: this song has single written all over it) and "Chamber the Cartridge." I'm hopeful, though, as it took me a while to really appreciate and enjoy each of Rise Against's previous albums.

I'll post my score sometime in the next two weeks, when I can form a full opinion on it...if I remember...which I probably won't...

Anonymous (July 9, 2006)

Almost as great as RPM, and definitely better than Siren Song...

I can feel this growing on me for sure. All in all, fucking excellent songs from one of my all-time favorite bands.

Anonymous (July 8, 2006)

Soooo stuctured and predictable, this record is BORING
Seems like half of the album is strictly choruses....

Anonymous (July 8, 2006)

I guess I might have to let this grow on me. It's nothing special and I'm confused why everyone is busting a nut over it. Better than Siren Song and not as good as RPM. It's hard to take anything this band says about "the man"--and their general take on politics seriously at all. Can anyone say top ten TRL radio rock band? Blah. Too many generic chorus/verse songs lacking the energy that RPM had. The single isn't that great and I'm already sick of it.

But then again, I like my "political" punk to be angry and include scathing commentary on politics and the "scene". Not huge radio rock choruses and MTV audience pandering.. Propagandhi, please!

Waffles (July 8, 2006)

obviosly some of the members here do not understand how songwriting goes. you dont try and write songs in a certain style of music. when the band came out with their album titled "Revolutions per Minute", thats who they were. and for "Siren Song", when they wrote "Swing Life Away", thats who they were. bands dont write songs to please the public, before you can please the public you must first please yourself.

but back to the new album. it is my favorite of the four and it stays fit with Rise Against's politically charged style. its a great follow up to "Siren Song" by one of the greatest punk bands today.

Anonymous (July 7, 2006)

This band is on top of the punk world right now!!! This is easily going to be in my top five of the year.

The reviewer said it perfectly "the ability to be catchy without writing pop songs," that is exactly what Rise Against is and what every punk band should strive for.

kill_fftl (July 6, 2006)

one of the best albums this year

neo_reloaded (July 6, 2006)

Score was supposed to be 3/5, not 3/10.

neo_reloaded (July 6, 2006)

What is the deal with all the pops on this album? Major label albums usually are pretty damn smooth... I can't imagine how all the random clicks passed everyone's inspection. This isn't some low-fi indie band, so I doubt they're trying to simulate vinyl...

Some of the songs on this album are pretty good. Chamber The Cartridge, Injection, Drones. I really like The Good Left Undone, one of Rise Against's better songs. But some songs, like Ready To Fall, strike me as extremely repetitive and watered down.

And that The Approaching Curve is ridiculous. I like spoken word - "Everything you ever wanted to know about silence" by Glassjaw is one great way to do it. I fucking like William Shatner's album, that's some classy shit. But this is cheesy bullshit. I never want to hear the word "cadence" again.

Anonymous (July 6, 2006)

hott

iconoclast (July 6, 2006)

punk is dead...

what does that even mean?

there still is, and always will be bands that maintain and keep alive the "punk ethic." yes, it has become watered down thanks to majors and mainstream pop culture, but it will never completely die. have you become that jaded and cynical???????

feeeding5000 (July 6, 2006)

...And I have nothing against major labels, just something against a band that calls an album "Revolutions Per Minute", and then does a safe, cutesy acoustic pop song.

feeeding5000 (July 6, 2006)

You know, I am too much of an immature idealist. But...cynics don't change anything. I'll try to be more sensible, and give fewer knee-jerk reactions, but I'm still going to be an eliteist asshole. Everyone OK w/ That?

Anonymous (July 6, 2006)

"Wow noone likes rise against now? I thought this album was good...I dont think they are very comparable to other bands around today. They sound too much like 90's punk, but everyones too dumb to notice that."

Anyone who gives this 4 stars shouldn't talk of intelligence.

Anonymous (July 6, 2006)

rise agaynst

nikko (July 6, 2006)

Wow noone likes rise against now? I thought this album was good...I dont think they are very comparable to other bands around today. They sound too much like 90's punk, but everyones too dumb to notice that.

sirens (July 6, 2006)

laaaaaame

Anonymous (July 6, 2006)

Selloutz?

...Selloutz.

SlowStupidHungry (July 5, 2006)

Hahaha. Another major label shit band releases some crappy record and feeding has to make the cliche "punx iz dead!" statement.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

This is a good record, but the review is kind of off-putting, with a sycophantic tone. And the stuff about the video just seems like too much adulation.

thefineprint (July 5, 2006)

I like this album, but I can't fucking stand that Roadside song. It sounds like I'm listening to a cheesy Staind nu-metal slow song.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

givemeamuseum answer is soooo good...thats exactly what I thought

jamespastepunk (July 5, 2006)

baxter (from chi land) was much better.

Bullshit. I actually own the baxter 2 disc disco and it's not nearly as good as you say.

dietcokeofpunk (July 5, 2006)

Is this the greatest rise against album? no Is it still pretty damn good? HELL YEA

GreenVandal (July 5, 2006)

That was deep dude. DEEP.

feeeding5000 (July 5, 2006)

Simply put, melodic, semi-heavy pop-punk that isn't really anything special, yet manages to sell millions of records based on some shitty acoustic song that every summer camp counselor will play at campfires. Horrible, horrible music. One of the "new wave of fucking sellouts". Punk IS dead, and now we're just raping the maggot-eaten corpse.

"Huh - 4 stars. My version of the album must be different because it sure didn't sound like 4 stars to me."

QFT.
Seriously, am i just fucked up? Because the record i have sounds like a bunch of badly recorded bland, vaugely skate punk inluenced songs with all the energy sucked out of them.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

This band hasn't been any good since "The Unraveling"

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

baxter (from chi land) was much better.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

man why do these bands bore me so much

skolarx (July 5, 2006)

hey sickboi, i hate you... that sounds like a much much better show. it was really messed up to see rise against playing in front of 11,000 people after the years of seeing them playing in front of 100-400 people opening up for bands like the business and boy set fire for so many years

coffinfullofnails (July 5, 2006)

Its' not rpm but its damn good. I wasnt that impressed first listen through, but it definately grew on me.

sickboi (July 5, 2006)

Skolar-

We got one of those here, but I think it was right after SSOTCC came out....but...

It was 3 bands.....in a small club...FOR FREE

Rise Against/The Explosion/The Loved Ones

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

Great album.

skolarx (July 5, 2006)

funny comment about how big they got and the weirdness involved. last christmas rise against played the local alternative radio station x-mas thing with coheed, fall out boy, 311 and I think our lady peace. there were some other bands but that doesn't matter. what I found funny was these little sorority girl types singing rise against songs, songs blatantly about revolution to their boyfriends like they were love songs. comepletely weird to witness

Razor_Crusade (July 5, 2006)

Best Rise Against album yet, though I don't know what could have possibly compelled them to keep The Approaching Curve in there. Nearly ruins the flow of the entire album and just isn't interesting at all.

William_David (July 5, 2006)

Great review. I don't think it surpasses RPM, but it's still an amazing album.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

The Approaching Curve reminds me of a Thought Riot song on Sketches.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

The approaching curve is pretty lame, haha.

But there are stand-outs on the album - injection, the good left undone.

I didn't get that much from the single. Maybe you have to see the video with it. To be honest, with a band like this, there are only so many songs they can make that aren't going to sound like something ripped off of a previous album.

The guy's got his voice down, now they just have to work on the instruments.

jockmcbored (July 5, 2006)

pasha - 27/07

if you're in Europe use the proper date format!!!!

pasha (July 5, 2006)

"Is this already out in Europe? I tried to get this today and the dickhead in the record store told me it's not gonna be out till 07/27...fuck, i need this"

order it. That's what I did.

TheOtherSteveJones (July 5, 2006)

Its better than Siren Song, but nowhere near Revolutions. Its got some really amzing songs, but then it has some horribly bad songs. Its just so missmatched. Maybe I just need to "get used to" the bad songs, but its going to take awhile.

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

"i havent even gotten thru the 1st go around with this and i enjoy it much more than Siren Song."

looks like you havent gotten to The Approaching curve or roadside yet...

Anonymous (July 5, 2006)

i havent even gotten thru the 1st go around with this and i enjoy it much more than Siren Song.

jumptheshark (July 5, 2006)

Really, really goddamn good album

dazed (July 5, 2006)

Am I the only one who after my initial stokedness on RPM wore off just got really bored with it (esp. the "hardcore" songs) and for that matter most of what they've done since The Unraveling?

PINT (July 5, 2006)

dude i picked this album up today and i've already listened to it 4 times. I think my favorite track would have to be the Prayer for the Refugee. That song kicks some serious ass. And yeah, i'll have to agree with the people who dont understand why everyone hates SirenSong. That's the cd that turned me on to Rise Against in the first place. (Even though RPM is better than it, i think this is about as good as Siren)

TahoeJeff (July 4, 2006)

This is the best $7.95 I've spent all day!

Not-To-Regret (July 4, 2006)

These guys just don't do it for me anymore. I can't get into that zone, even at their heaviest and catchiest, which I do still give them credit for. Regardless of image and politics I can make the same criticisms about these guys that many can for Anti-Flag. Inspired, fast, catchy, sing-alongs, but somethings missing for me in that arena...

cantsitstill (July 4, 2006)

fuck this shit.

the new Latterman is grrrrrreat!

jamespastepunk (July 4, 2006)

Why do I get the terrible, terrible feeling this is gonna tank?

Great CD.

GreenVandal (July 4, 2006)

Incredibly boring.

cuapunkradio (July 4, 2006)

the first two songs and the last song are great. the res is really forgettable. a dissapointment. sorry tim

Skankur (July 4, 2006)

I'm digging this album alot.

My favourite tracks:
- Drones
- Bricks
- Prayer For The Refugee
- Chamber The Cartridge
- Worth Dying For.

But I think it's nice that Rise Against lets four year olds draw their album art, such nice guys!

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Which live track does Target have? Best Buy's is Give it All.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Is this already out in Europe? I tried to get this today and the dickhead in the record store told me it's not gonna be out till 07/27...fuck, i need this

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Target is offering a half assed live track as well. I was hoping for the b-side "built to last". But for $7.99, it's more than worth it.

A solid improvement over Siren Songs but not as good as the first two releases.

crazytoledo (July 4, 2006)

I got a Rise Against shirt for $2.47 (gotta love half-off clearance prices) today (at the mall of all places).

And this cd is really good. One of the best this year.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Did anybody get this at Target? There's an exclusive track and I want to know what it is, if it's a totally new song or if it's some half-ass live song like Best Buy is offereing.

Anyways, great album.

BrixtonGunman (July 4, 2006)

I honestly think this is their best work yet.

wannabepunktony (July 4, 2006)

Huh - 4 stars. My version of the album must be different because it sure didn't sound like 4 stars to me.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Rise Against Albums in order of awesomeness:

1. The Unraveling
2. RPM
3. Sufferer
4. Siren Song

Congratulations Rise Against, you finally made an album that isn't worse than the one that came before it!

el_matt (July 4, 2006)

This is the first whole album i've heard by this band, and it is pretty solid. Give it All is a great single, but my favorite songs would have to be Bricks and The Approaching Curve

kingofsuck (July 4, 2006)

" 'roadside? what happened to the hardcore?'

hey moron, they've never had 100% hardcore songs on any of their records. listen to The Unraveling again and you'll hear plenty of slow songs"

The Art of Losing? To the Core? State of the Union? yeah those arent hardcore at all. They may have had slow songs before but at least they still maintained a punk spirit, this P.O.S. is so cheesy and melodramatic that it could have been made by any of the generic MTV bands out there. Dont try and be a smart ass if your not going to be smart about it.


P.O.S.? hahahaha

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

this score is for the cover art

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

"Strangely, the album cover reminds me of "Paris 1919". Same colour scheme I guess.

Terrible band, anyhow.

- blade-runner"

Okay, you've made sure everyone knows you're cool enough to listen to John Cale, now you can leave.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

" 'roadside? what happened to the hardcore?'

hey moron, they've never had 100% hardcore songs on any of their records. listen to The Unraveling again and you'll hear plenty of slow songs"

The Art of Losing? To the Core? State of the Union? yeah those arent hardcore at all. They may have had slow songs before but at least they still maintained a punk spirit, this P.O.S. is so cheesy and melodramatic that it could have been made by any of the generic MTV bands out there. Dont try and be a smart ass if your not going to be smart about it.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

also anyone else hate 'The Approaching curb' as much as I do....sooo sooo cheesy

Scootz_McNasty (July 4, 2006)

great record, but i still say that Revolutions Per Minute is their best work, hands down.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

This is certainly better than Siren but I can't see any competition between this and RPM.
TO whoever said the Killing Tree were better....don't be a silly-billy....
I like this album although I did initially hate it.....

It's amazing to think that when everyone first heard about Rise Against going major, a lot of people felt they wouldn't meet the record label's demands and be dropped quite quickly. I feel as if this album is going to prove all those people (myself included) wrong and do very very well

iconoclast (July 4, 2006)

another excellent review, but better than RPM???

Flowbee (July 4, 2006)

I've had this record for a few weeks now and I can't stop listening to it. I too liked "Siren Song..." quite a bit when it first came out but after a while I'd reach for something else, usually "RPM," when I wanted to hear some Rise Against.

I'm still wondering if that will happen of a few months of listening to this album. I don't think it tops "RPM" but it might be close behind it. You have to admit, the hooks on this record as as catchy as ever, I can't get some of these songs out of my head and it's starting to piss off the people around me because I keep singing them at random.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

they always bored me...they still do...

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

I can't decide if I want to buy this or the new Johnny Cash album tomorrow...

Maybe I'll go for both... And just when I thought when I thought I was becoming financially wise.

Jenningstheanesthetist (July 4, 2006)

Solid improvement over Siren Song. Tracks like Good Left Undone and Prayer of the Refugee are on par with,if not better than, tracks on RPM.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Who produced Siren Song? Was it GGGarth? I thought it sounded great and exactly the way it should have: a well-produced big rock album.

Again, fuck you punknews.org for not working on Firefox 1.0 for Mac.
--Cos

onegirlarmy (July 4, 2006)

Great album, I like it way more than Siren Song, and for the record I didn't hate that album either. I still think RPM is their best, but this one is followed closely in 2nd place for me.

miniblindbandit (July 4, 2006)

Well I kind of meant favorite in addition to "Blood-Red, White, and Blue" and "Halfway There"

Fuzzy (July 4, 2006)

This album feels just like recycled choruses and riffs from RPM. I get tired of the veeerse CHOORRRRRUUUUUS (with baaaacking har-mo-nies) that they do on every single song. It's better that Siren Song, but that's mostly due to the production. Pretty disappointed.

sickboi (July 4, 2006)

Hey Aubin-

If you think this is better than RPM, why is RPM scored higher?

sickboi (July 4, 2006)

I actually agree with Aubin. Every song on this album display's the band's range as musician's, and the amazing vocal abilities of Tim. The screaming intermingled with his singing doesn't sound forced in the least, and they seem to finally have developed a trademark sound, as opposed to previous comparisons to a plethora of bands.

And Wyzo-
The Killing Tree is 1000000000000x better than Rise Against, we all know this, but I think the possibilities of getting another full length are pretty much slim to none. Though with what Tim can do with his voice now, can you imagine how amazing it would be?

coldwaffles (July 4, 2006)

"Behind Closed Doors is my new favorite Rise Against song."

I don't know about favorite, but I LOVE that track.

R3venge_Therapy (July 4, 2006)

kingofsuck
Is it a nice hat?

It's my Strung Out hat, so to me, yes it is a nice hat.

Cue someone saying "Strung Out sucks lol"...

mclz (July 4, 2006)

i have the unmastered version
with some different songs on it too
its really good
probably their best record yet

notfeelingcreative (July 4, 2006)

I'm one of the few people who liked "Siren Song" more than "Revolutions Per Minute"! Now, i'm tired of both albums and mainly just listen to "The Unraveling" when I'm in a Rise Against mood. I'll go out and pick this up in a minute and see what I think of it.

miniblindbandit (July 4, 2006)

Behind Closed Doors is my new favorite Rise Against song.

hvmyselfabear (July 4, 2006)

I haven't heard the whole album, but the video for the single that I saw on Fuse the other night did not sound good to me, the vocals were way too slick and the instuments were nowhere near as brutal as RPM.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

i enjoy this, but it loses half a star because of the 2 girls that were in front of my at the cd store also purchasing this along with angels & airwaves.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

not what i had hoped for, its ok but seems forced-oldpunker-

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

RPM was tolerable, but since then they've become a joke. This sounds like Bush trying to play Rage Against the Machine songs. Really disappointing stuff that won't age well at all.

boba_fett (July 4, 2006)

its good, but i disagree with aubin about it being better then revolutions. revolutions is still their best.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Can I ask why most people didnt like Siren...??

I have loved all 4 albums, but it seems most posters on this site liked the other 3 and not Siren, was there any particular reason, as I dont think they have changed their style that much on each album. Whick I think is a good thing!

Moo

socrates (July 4, 2006)

excellent quitarwork, excellent vocals. the lyrics maybe aren't their best, but this is by far their best album. I mean, look at the perfectly balanced complexity of the song structures and the way the guitars are used to complement eachother, all of the songs have so many layers. awesome.

mcgregor107 (July 4, 2006)

this has to be a top 20 of the year.. atleast!

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

well, im halfway through it and unlike Sirensong, which I listened to twice and threw on the 'meh' pile (by my cat, but he's always been right before), this is already a clear shot better and a keeper. Good background tunes for the summer, even for senior citizens like myself.

wyzo

fallingupwards84 (July 4, 2006)

"roadside? what happened to the hardcore?"

hey moron, they've never had 100% hardcore songs on any of their records. listen to The Unraveling again and you'll hear plenty of slow songs

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

when is the killing tree going to pry tim away long enough to write more dental plan shredding riffs?

If they don't release another album, our missile shield will never stop north korea.

wyzo

pasha (July 4, 2006)

Great, great album...

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

I see you said that this cd surpasses RPM, yet im looking at your review of RPM and you gave it a higher score.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

"and surpasses Siren Song" yes

"and their previous best Revolutions Per Minute handily" no

"The next potential single is also the dramatic “Roadside,” i will lose so much respect for them if this happens

"without writing pop songs" under the knife?

"Tracks like “Injection” and “Drones” are perfect ragers" yes

" without changing their sound" RPM to TSatW = huge difference

"band maintains this virtue" roadside? what happened to the hardcore?

MrStylson (July 4, 2006)

Great review.

Even better album.

Every band has an album or two where things aren't as good. Most bands just never recover from it.

Rise Against recovered.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Strangely, the album cover reminds me of "Paris 1919". Same colour scheme I guess.

Terrible band, anyhow.

- blade-runner

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Is it a nice hat?

It IS an ass hat.

fallingupwards84 (July 4, 2006)

great review
one of my favorite releases this year so far

almostpunkenough (July 4, 2006)

i'll go as far as saying "The Good left Undone" is an excellent song.

kingofsuck (July 4, 2006)

Is it a nice hat?

R3venge_Therapy (July 4, 2006)

Good review, and I agree for the most part. I just don't think they've outdone Revolutions Per Minute because that record is so fucking good. This band hasn't released a bad record yet, and the day they do, i'll eat my hat.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Some of this is really good, some is just ok.

For the people that DO shop at big-chain stores, Best Buy is going to have it for $7.99, and Circuit City will have it for $6.99.
Also, new Johnny Cash album: BB- $9.99, CC- $8.99.

I'm going to give in, and take a trip to Circuit City tomorrow. Sorry Ma and Pa.

kingofsuck (July 4, 2006)

SalsaShark, I agree with you. Also, the fact that someone was essentially kicked out of the band because of their hair has probably stuck in the back of my head and prevented me from getting into this band. I think they're a pretty good band, I've just never been as into them as a lot of people have been.

SalsaShark (July 4, 2006)

I don't understand why people dig this band so much. They're alright but don't feel like anything special to me. Maybe I'll get "it" some day.

whatchokesbegin (July 4, 2006)

This album is thoroughly excellent.

MikeStupid (July 4, 2006)

This will easily be in my top 5 best of the year.

colin (July 4, 2006)

also, that cover art is beautiful. i'm hoping the interior is just as nice.

i gotta go with "the good left undone" as best song on the album, though.

someone-yeah (July 4, 2006)

This band has redeemed itself in this cynical internet nerd's eyes.

Anonymous (July 4, 2006)

Great band, great album also great re view wow great overload!!!

burningfeeetman (July 4, 2006)

I may be the only person in the world that is actually waiting until tomorrow to get this, but I'm confident that it's going to blow me the fuck away.

kingofsuck (July 4, 2006)

I think I'm the only person on this site who hasn't heard this yet. I need to get around to that soon.

colin (July 4, 2006)

although i hate that "approaching curve" song, this album grew on me a ton and will probably be one of the best releases on a major this year.

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