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GG Allin and Antiseen

GG Allin and Antiseen: Murder Junkies [reissue]Murder Junkies [reissue] (2006)
TKO Records

Reviewer Rating: 0.5
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I've always thought of GG Allin as once of those artists who is fun to like in theory, but in fact isn't very likeable at all. He's great to throw on during a whiskey-fuelled party, but not so much on a first date. There was never much that was nice about Allin and unfortunately, the more shocking a.
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I've always thought of GG Allin as once of those artists who is fun to like in theory, but in fact isn't very likeable at all. He's great to throw on during a whiskey-fuelled party, but not so much on a first date. There was never much that was nice about Allin and unfortunately, the more shocking aspects of his personality -- of which there were plenty -- are what he is largely remembered for.

Murder Junkies was amongst the last of his recorded material, originally released just a few years before his death in 1993. With Antiseen backing him up it is one of his strongest releases despite the tempos being slower than in some of his more popular work. While the original release had 20 tracks featuring spoken word tracks as well as songs, this re-release narrows it down to just the 10 original songs and four additional bonus tracks. Murder Junkies has some of Allin's most notorious (since "best" is a tough label to apply to anything he does) songs, including "Violence Now" which turns up twice (once as a single version) and "Layin' Up with Linda," a bonus country track.

If you take Allin's music out of context there's nothing worth listening to. Antiseen's backup music may prove to be slightly redeeming, but if you want sloppy street punk, you can find better stuff elsewhere. Despite a few people who hold him up as one of the only true punk rockers, Allin was interesting only as a freak show. There are better avenues through which to discuss Allin's complex politics and lifestyle. However, his politics and lifestyle are virtually inseparable from his music. There might not be anything punk about rape, but Murder Junkies is an accurate representation of the life Allin chose to lead and if you're looking for that in record, then you'll be pleased. However if you aren't very familiar with Allin, his recorded work isn't the best place to look. The Hated DVD would be a better place to start as it portrays him in a much fuller sense and includes his last concert, which like most of his, was cut short. If you're already a fan, then this would be worth picking up.

I for one, won't ever be listening to this again, but his fans know who they are and will eat this up. So why then does it get a half-star? Any song that glorifies rape deserves the lowest score we've got.

 

 
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sk8brdr4life699 (February 7, 2007)

Some of this comment is fowarded to "moneenerd"

I want to start off by stating i am by no means a die hard GG Allin fan one of his "Followers". However, you made several wrong statements. Gg Allin was nto signed to a major record label, if anything he would have shit on a major record deal and ate it. He also did not make a lot of money and was not a freak show like Gwar. GG i will admit had issues, i can not fully respect a man who rapes people. To masturbate on stage is somewhat funny- if its for an act. But GG was not an act, i do like the guys music, however his lifestyle is just to real for me. People like GWAR should not even be compared to GG, gwar has a lame ass story on the begging of there band somehow tied to the devil or soem gay ass shit just like ICP. Ill tell you write now the worse thing they do is shoot fake blood at there crowd. Where as GG would cut himself, fight with his audience, be fucking trippin on so many drugs, and so much more on and off stage. Like I said i dont respect him for his actions because i dont agree with them (they are funny) but i damn well respect the man for beign real... something very few ppl are these days. i try to be honest and real and not conform to society's vision of happiness as did he, however, to take it to the extreme he took it to was ridiculious. His reasoning on why he did things was completely irrational, however if he wanted to i give him and his fans 100% respect cause they knew what they were getting themselves into. The truth was, his actions could never help bennefit people, rapping cant make ppl stronger, the real "Streets" arent filled with guys like him. But i do like his music, and i do think he was a great speaker.

Anonymous (January 15, 2007)

anarchys cool man

Anonymous (January 15, 2007)

If you enjoy listening to this, you are fucked.

lushj (January 15, 2007)

Score's for the record- GG's music really went downhill after the stuff with the Scumfucs/Texas Nazis somewhere in the mid-late 80s. When he started getting into the slower, more rock stuff- like this- is when I lost interest in his studio records but stayed fascinated by his life and live show. The person below who said he had sunk into self-parody by the time he died is right, at least musically.

Great GG bands: Jabbers, Cedar St. Sluts, Jabbers, Texas Nazis.

"As far as I'm concerned, if you deliberately support a racist, sexist, violent rapist like GG Allin, you support ALL racist, sexist, violent rapists, no matter how "truly punk rock" his fuckin garbage music was."

This makes no sense, unless you're still living at home and the world is black and white, with no shades of gray. It's about as dumb as the generic "GG IS GOD" comment.

P.S.- "Street punk" is oi, not Antiseen.

Anonymous (January 14, 2007)

The fact that you make this comment:

"Antiseenís backup music may prove to be slightly redeeming, but if you want sloppy street punk, you can find better stuff elsewhere. "

..proves that you have no clue what you are talking about and should not be reviewing records. Regardless of whether you like this or not, AntiSeen and GG Allin have ZERO to do with "street punk". Street punk is under a true definition bands like Oxymore, Swingin Utters etc. On this site I would even give it a broad enough reach to cover all that unlistenable mall crap like Roger Mirets Disaster and the Street Dogs. There is no way you could ever connect those bands with this release unless you think TKO is a "street punk" label and therefore everyone thing on the label is part of that genre. That would obviously be stupid since there are hardly any bands on that label anymore that would even fit the loose definitions of that genre I mentioned above.

My score for your review and knowledge of the subject matter: D-

ben_conoley (January 14, 2007)

He went to prison for sexual assault and claimed to rape people

Anonymous (January 14, 2007)

I don't know too much about GG, but he did he ever actually rape someone? If he did and then sings about it and gets money for doing that, that's wrong. But if not, I don't see a problem with singing about it. The Misfits sang about that kind of stuff all the time, and it was great. And sometimes I'll get in a mood where I really want to hear The Bronx's "History's Stranglers." That doesn't mean that they advocate murder or that I do. It's just MUSIC.

Also, categorizing what exactly advocating violence through art means is a slippery slope. Tons of people wanted Bret Easton Ellis' American Psycho banned and claimed it advocated rape and murder, when really it does the opposite. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to, but art isn't going to hurt anybody.

Anonymous (January 14, 2007)

"Hey, Ebro from Charles Bronson was on Springer."

So was Justin from The Locust. The difference is, GG Allin could provide enough material for a weeks worth of episodes just by being himself. Plus, he has no talent.

Anonymous (January 14, 2007)

hahahah
throwing gg on during a date
funny thing is i've actually done that before

Anonymous (January 14, 2007)

i don't know about this album, but gg allin with the jabbers is fucking amazing.. one of the best punk albums of all time. you gotta understand gg was a smart and talented individual but mental illness and drug abuse lead to him being viewed as trash... confrontational music is awesome

Sick_Nick (January 13, 2007)

Why was Ebro on Jerry Springer?

Anonymous (January 13, 2007)

I'm giving this record 5 stars because it glorifies rape.

SlowStupidHungry (January 13, 2007)

You could argue lots of things are part of punk. It doesn't make them interesting or good.

FuckYouOiOiOi (January 13, 2007)

...and whats wrong with attention-baiting? thats part of punk.

SlowStupidHungry (January 13, 2007)

"It's all done for money and media attention, and appearing on a hugely popular show like Jerry Springer only supports that."

Hey, Ebro from Charles Bronson was on Springer.

People take all of this a little too seriously. Saying that the lame 14 year old punxors who listen to GG to piss off their parents are supporting all racist rapists everywhere is total bullshit.

That said, I am totally lost on anyone over the age of 15 who would find GG Allin appealling. It comes off as total hick garbage. Not to say violence and blood have no place in music- Iggy and the Stooges/Black Flag shows prove that wrong. But the fact is that GG made pretty bad music and his live shows don't come off as anything but attention-baiting.

-Will

moneenerd (January 13, 2007)

Good review. I also like how you gave him a star for every inch of talent ol' GG actually had. It's all shock rock garbage. No different from GWAR, or Slipknot, or whatever marginally talented, white trash rock band to come out, sign to a major, and say "I do whatever the fuck I want", and somehow get away with it without anyone calling shit on them. It's all done for money and media attention, and appearing on a hugely popular show like Jerry Springer only supports that.

As far as I'm concerned, if you deliberately support a racist, sexist, violent rapist like GG Allin, you support ALL racist, sexist, violent rapists, no matter how "truly punk rock" his fuckin garbage music was.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

oh well, I guess that I hate GG Allin so much that I don't want to make him happy. So, in order to prove that I really hate him, I guess I can't hate him anymore.

Whatever. Thriving off the hatred of others is no excuse for being a douchebag who eats his own feces and sings about raping chicks.

FuckYouOiOiOi (January 12, 2007)

antiseen sucks but this record is good. and for all the shittalkers who hate GG Allin- thats what he woulda wanted.

life sucks scum fucks!!!!

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Buy the first GG and the Jabbers album featuring Dee Dee on guitar. Has the great "Don't Talk to Me" on it. Snotty as diseased shit!

Archangel (January 12, 2007)

Excellent.

feeeding5000 (January 12, 2007)

Ha! I thought it was gonna be FuckYouOiOiOi too! Anyway, I'm not gonna flog the dead horse, as it were, about GG. What I will say is that antiseen are also a bunch of right-wing, chauvinistic, violent redneck horse's-asses who make shitty "southern punk". Fuck them. Seriously.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

score is for teh anonymous d-bag who tries to bash left alone for something they didn't do every other day on this website.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Petro, I couldn't agree more....the Jabbers stuff is excellent..i also have a wierd facination with the Aids Brigade album also...Hanging out w/ Jim is a great song!

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Come on, not all of GG's music is bad...GG and the Jabbers were straight up good, and a couple of their songs(especially 'Don't Talk To Me') were up there with the best of the Pagans and Dead Boys. I dig the hell out of his early stuff....not as big a fan of his shit eater stab stab kill kill stuff, but I dn't feel a bit sorry for people who went to see him in that era and got hurt...because they knew what they were getting into. Thay could have stayed home.

~Petro B. Pettson

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Score is for the first statement of the review.
I'd love to say that I'm alla bout GG Allin, in fact it seems to be expected of me, especially with the music that I myself write.
But I find Allin's recordings to be boring for the most part, the live show videos are enjoyable... in the same way as watching "World's Wildest Police Chases," or those NASCAR crash vids on Vs. are.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

This is a great review. I clicked on it expecting a high-star review glorifying Allin for somehow being the epitome of punk rock, and thankfully I was wrong. Kudos for looking past the romanticized notions of Allin that exist and on seeing him for what he was - a violent, sexist, pathetic jackass.

Ianw (January 12, 2007)

Dude, there is no line.

All responsibility in art is on that of the beholder.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Score is for Allin.

Allin simply never understood that your personal freedom ends where someone else's begins.

For him being 'punk' and 'free' was to do anything and everything he wanted, taking amounts of drugs sufficient to kill whitney houston then cutting himself onstage, eating his own shit and spitting it at people, getting into fights with his audience and punching women in the face. His whole musical output is garbage, but for his fans I guess he just personified an idiotic idea of freedom that wasn't for anyone except himself.

Fuzzy (January 12, 2007)

The line between shocking artist and useless filth is often blurry.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

G G Allin sucked harder than anybody has ever sucked before.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

I'm invariably bored with the reviews (and the bands being reviewed) on this site. But this review is definitely commendable, a cut above the usual dreck. heck, it's miles above the usual dreck.

The reviewer really gets to the heart of it. Sorry, but Mr. Allin's "music" just isn't much. And it's impossible to review any of his recordings without regard to his actions, lifestyle, and (lack of) politics.

I know quite a lot about GG Allin. At one time I had a bizarre fascination with him. One of my bands actually opened for GG & The Murder Junkies in 1991. I shook his hand (before the show, when he was clean).

At the show, his antics, which seemed "funny" in theory, angered me. Sure, he was "wile" or whatever. But at the show I saw the first thing he did was kick a guy straight on in the face after running about ten feet, and he had cowboy boots on. From there on, he attacked many females in the audience and did the shit schtick, which (predictably) smelled foul in the way that diarreah/shit from the bowels from an AIDS infested junkie/alcoholic can.

Sure, you can do the old, "well, if you went to a GG concert, that's what you get" routine. But we're talking about real people here.

I think GG's fans (including myself before the show) were/are misguided teenagers with delusions of anarchy, worshiping a blind idiot god in the personification of GG.

I've seen many, many interviews with GG, and it's obvious that his intellect was, at best, limited. He had some vague justification for his actions (his "war") that was totally empty.

The truth is that GG was a pathetic, insane individual who had to resort to eating shit to gain any attention. And he didn't get that much attention as a shiteater.

His antics were basically infantile tantrums. Unfortunately, this misdirected anger at himself and the world has resulted in a twisted kind of postmortem sainthood.

I still have a weird interest in Mr. Allin, but not as a musician. Ultimately, he was a pathetic excuse for a human being. I'm sure his life was hell.

Now, back to the review. While the Antiseen sessions were some of the more coherent later period GG, that's not saying much. Allin had run out of ideas and become a parody long before he died.

Did he ever have any ideas?

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Today I saw a license plate that said Pwned. So in case anyone wanted that, it's taken. it's in New Jersey

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

Here is why you can disregard people who say rape isn't wrong: once you breach someone else's rights, you no longer have any. Sure, that sound kind of circular, but the person stating "I like to rape, and I don't see a problem with it!" has pretty much voided themselves from any form of freedom because they openly take it away from others. This makes them a threat to any human who supports others' freedom to exist. Once they are no longer a part of the social construct, what use are they? I don't really care what happens to people like that, just as long as death comes upon them swiftly.

Besides, what is a logicaly cohesive statement that makes it okay to rape someone? The only ones I can think of pay no attention to the human animals reliance on a social structure, and any theory that ignores that is just a bunch of babble.

kingofsuck (January 12, 2007)

So, who all saw this review and clicked on it assuming it was going to be written by FuckYouOiOiOi?

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

"personally, i believe rape is bad, but that doesn't make it wrong to everyone."

Your a fucking sicko. Like those dudes in Left Alone.

SuperRad (January 12, 2007)

Score is for this review.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

If punk means being a degenerate waste of skin that eats his own poop, then sign me up.

livelouddiefast (January 12, 2007)

moral relativism

Badger_Legion (January 12, 2007)

"personally, i believe rape is bad, but that doesn't make it wrong to everyone."

You're a fucking idiot.

MikeStupid (January 12, 2007)

"personally, i believe rape is bad, but that doesn't make it wrong to everyone."

What a retarded statement. Score is for GG.

livelouddiefast (January 12, 2007)

i thought being punk and all that what-not was about being open minded to alternative lifestyles and such. alt lifestyle being everything from your gay friend to your kkk neighbor to gg allin.

gg, in my book, sucked real bad at music. however, i commend him for going with his amoral self.

personally, i believe rape is bad, but that doesn't make it wrong to everyone.

if someone isn't a humanist does that mean we discriminate against them?

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

fuck gg

Ianw (January 12, 2007)

this cd should come covered in poo, blood, and vomit. You know, for authenticy.

Badger_Legion (January 12, 2007)

"Any song that glorifies rape deserves the lowest score we've got. "

True, but the problem is that you're suppose to be reviewing the whole album, not one song in particular.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

What a big surpise, every hunk of shit of indy and emo gets 5 stars on this joke of a website but GG allin gets nothing. Brilliant.

Anonymous (January 12, 2007)

"Any song that glorifies rape deserves the lowest score we've got."

I couldn't agree more and commend the reviewer for sticking up for principles.

Godfather (January 12, 2007)

this guys music isn't nearly as bad as what is about to erupt in this thread

freesandwich (January 12, 2007)

lol

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