Just because he's the singer of a well-known band doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to his own personal opinions about whatever subject he chooses. Who the fuck cares if he's a homophobe? How does that affect you, and why should it have anything to do with the music he creates?

Nice review, Brain. Lucky NJ bastard.

The bible doesn't promote homophobia, it's simply against it, nothing homophobic about that.

If there's any book that you should take at face value it's one written thousands of years ago by dozens of people attempting to interpret words/visions from a diety about topics they barely understood (You wouldn't believe some people's understanding of sex even 60 years ago). Then take these interpretations and put them through countless translations (some into languages that are now dead), until we finally get one in modern english.

We still can't even get 100% accurate translations of japanese movies, and people still try to use the Bible to promote homophobia.

The Bad Brains are not homophobic,although they WERE young over zealous Rasta youth back in the 80's and more likely to condemn such behavior ,but like anybody that "get's in to something" be it a group church,club,tatooing,anything, you start out a little "green"a little loud mouth ,simply over zealous,.. since those days the Brains have grown to understand more and tolerate homosexuality,I say tolerate because one doesn't have to agree,but certainly respect ,they have become wiser and more knowledgable about life in general as you/we all will as we grow older,.,the Brains understand that we are all JAH chiildren regardless of race,color.creed or sexual preference. so please cease the old played out homophobic talk and recognize the Brains for their true worth in this music scene you call Hardcore,the Brains have spread a message of peace and love to the youth and masses long before they embraced Rasta or this blown out of control myth,the Brains have paved the way of versitilty amongst the creative community with their brand of Hard/Punk Rock.so I say to you P.M.A not N.M.A check out the OG's for what they really help to pioneer for the youth of today, the concepts of freedom from race and class and the recognition of a oneness even in Punk Rock,there's more to it Youthman - and to all the haters and lovers of quarrel - If you live in a glass house ,...don't throw stones.. 1 - tha Iyatola

dat dude

"It's called progression. People SHOULD learn things after a while. There is no "cycle". Gay bashing has always been dumb, the fact that more people are realizing that is human thought progression. Hey, look, there was a time when black people were slaves and then discriminated against because of their skin. I'd hope that wouldn't go in a cycle. Eventually the majority of people realized how fucking stupid that was. In 5 years it'd be nice for the majority of people to realize that being gay is okay too."

True, but that depends on whether or not you believe that homosexuality is something your born with or a lifestyle choice. Its a huge debate with still a large number of people believing that its somthing you choose to adopt. Today people are learning to be tolerant of other people and the way they live their lives, but still alot of people see homosexuality as a conscious deviation of the norm. Me i say live and let live, but if you look at it in that way youll see there is a big difference between hatred for someone because of race,gender ect.. and not condoning someones personal choices in life.

That said homophobia is wrong. I just dont see HR as a hate filled person, just needs to be educated.

Oh Sideleau my dear friend. Tigers don't have arms, do you know what you are talking about? And why are you so bitter towards religion, Christianity in particular? It's just as wrong to say something hateful towards homosexuals, as it is when you go on your "I hate people with faith" rants.

Well, they edit the reviews, and my simile (not even a joke!) was removed. I guess because Benoit didn't kill anyone besides his immediate family, and because people have gotten used to crazy murder-suicides, but are still shocked by school shootings...

Did they censor your joke in a review or something? That sucks, you like Crass, you deserve better. (actually no sarcasm there)

Oh, c'mon, this guy can make a reference to someone being "Benoit'd", and I can't compare Dystopia to a school shooting three days after the VA Tech massacre? What the fuck?

I am happy that there was something in my review to start the kernel that was this nutty thread. Godbless.

Lets all fight!

"Did the Loved Ones announce that it's the same set list they've played every show for the past year? I love that band, but I've seen them around 6 times, and they have always played the exact same songs. Know how I noticed? Because they always play 100K and Chicken and nothing else off of the EP, and the only song I've never heard off of Keep Your Heart is "The Odds", which is one of, if not my favorite song of theirs.

The band has one full release. How much change do you expect on a nightly basis?"

I thought I made it pretty darned clear that what could change would be them playing "The Odds" once out of 6 different dates in one year, but, hey, reading my entire comment before being sarcastic would be too much to ask of you, now, wouldn't it?

I never knew that this website was full of sympathizers of faggotry. Faggotry is wrong and it will always be wrong. Have any of you read the BIBLE! I swear everyone on this website needs to have a serious intervention with their pastor.

whoa, chill dude

Animals can't consent??? What are you? A fucking idiot? If a female lion doesn't want a male to fuck her she sure as fuck let's him know........the same goes for just about any animal. Actual "rape" in the animal kingdom (outside of humanity) is actualy very rare, because usually it involves too high a risk of injury which could, in turn, result in death to the male....even minor injuries (I mean, where's a male Tiger gonna go with his arm torn off? He's done for...). Consent has nothing to do with spoken words (to the idiot many below touting this bullshit). And, again, homosexuality is present in nature all over the place and it doesn't hurt anyone mentally or physically....so what the fuck is wrong with it? And who the fuck are you to say? What the fuck do you know? Obviously not very much. And don't give me any religious bullshit excuses.....the existence of "God" (in the conventional sense) makes about as much sense as the existence of Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny........which makes you about as smart as a 3 year old.

Kelly Clarkson's bassist? You mean like Mike Watt?

well they could still play Massive from the EP since thats a cool fuckin song

Did the Loved Ones announce that it's the same set list they've played every show for the past year? I love that band, but I've seen them around 6 times, and they have always played the exact same songs. Know how I noticed? Because they always play 100K and Chicken and nothing else off of the EP, and the only song I've never heard off of Keep Your Heart is "The Odds", which is one of, if not my favorite song of theirs.

The band has one full release. How much change do you expect on a nightly basis?

Did the Loved Ones announce that it's the same set list they've played every show for the past year? I love that band, but I've seen them around 6 times, and they have always played the exact same songs. Know how I noticed? Because they always play 100K and Chicken and nothing else off of the EP, and the only song I've never heard off of Keep Your Heart is "The Odds", which is one of, if not my favorite song of theirs.

ok torgo, i'll take your word for it, i just don't remember him saying that.

Maybe if you had sex with my severed head.

if i cut off your arms and cut off your legs would you still love me anyway?

If I cut your head off would you consider that more disgusting than gay sex?

Hey, it's your life, do what you want with it. That being said, there's still nothing more disgusting than gay sex....sorry.

"Animals can't consent"? My dog humps my leg all the time.

Have you ever heard of the Fireside Bowl?

"Benoit'd"? you're not funny

Just because he's the singer of a well-known band doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to his own personal opinions about whatever subject he chooses. Who the fuck cares if he's a homophobe? How does that affect you, and why should it have anything to do with the music he creates?

i can't believe some of the stuff being said here that is so blatantly anti-gay. i should really stop reading the comments. unless those posters are joking, this is ridiculous. any reasonable person should realize that it really doesn't fucking matter if two consenting men or women choose to love each other in their own personal lives.

christ, you're stupid. ANIMALS CAN'T CONSENT. Two adult men or women CAN. I'm not sure if you know this, but you can't ask a pig/dog/horse/alligator if they want to fuck. Completely different than being in a relationship with consenting adult who can communicate with you. You really don't get the concept, do you?

I'd have to say that beastiality is indeed wrong, gay people love each other, so what you're doing is more like rape instaed of making love.

Yes, hopefuly homosexuality will be accepted, then maybe beastiality, so I can exspress my love to my animals without having phobes tell me that I can't make love to my dog.

the only time bowling was allowed was during the bad brains because then there were no bands playing in the bowling alley. how the fuck could people bowl if bands were playing on the fucking lanes you idiot.

That would be right except half the lanes were open and you know, people were bowling while the bands were on.

"When the Bad Brains were homophobic it was different times. Then it was cool to be a homophobe. Now its uncool. Who knows, in five years it might be cool again. These things go in cycles, and I dont think they should be faulted. Look at crime numbers... Gaybashing has diminished every year since the 1980's. It became faux paux to do that. As long as faggotry exists in this country there will be homophobes."

It's called progression. People SHOULD learn things after a while. There is no "cycle". Gay bashing has always been dumb, the fact that more people are realizing that is human thought progression. Hey, look, there was a time when black people were slaves and then discriminated against because of their skin. I'd hope that wouldn't go in a cycle. Eventually the majority of people realized how fucking stupid that was. In 5 years it'd be nice for the majority of people to realize that being gay is okay too.

the only time bowling was allowed was during the bad brains because then there were no bands playing in the bowling alley. how the fuck could people bowl if bands were playing on the fucking lanes you idiot.

punknews seriously needs to stop posting every review that gets submitted. i mean look at this crap.

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 30, 2007 at 2:10 PM (EDT)

ok maybe gay sex isnt [i]that[/i] bad, but think about it: if we legalize homosexuality, whats next? polygamy? legalizing insest? beastiality??
its a slippery slope - you have to draw the line somewhere.
i say draw the line at homosexuality.

This is a joke, right?

No, ashtraymonument, he said EXACTLY "when bush lied no one died." The whole impeached thing was a different talking point.

Consensual sex takes age into consideration. A mother and son may be wrong morally, but if the kid is over the age limit that is his issue. If he is under age it is definitely wrong.

to the person below me: if a mother and son consent to having sex in the privacy of their home, is that ok?

gay sex isn't bad at all. If two people consent I don't see a problem. THis site is full of dolts.

"As long as faggotry exists in this country there will be homophobes."
Do you think it is going to stop?
Fuckin idiot

ok maybe gay sex isnt [i]that[/i] bad, but think about it: if we legalize homosexuality, whats next? polygamy? legalizing insest? beastiality??
its a slippery slope - you have to draw the line somewhere.
i say draw the line at homosexuality.

getting benoit'd? way to try to stretch a joke. you couldn't come up with anything else?

I think HR is dispicable. The faggotry that exists in this country is none of his business, and homophobes are assholes.

When the Bad Brains were homophobic it was different times. Then it was cool to be a homophobe. Now its uncool. Who knows, in five years it might be cool again. These things go in cycles, and I dont think they should be faulted. Look at crime numbers... Gaybashing has diminished every year since the 1980's. It became faux paux to do that. As long as faggotry exists in this country there will be homophobes.

also jello didn't say "when clinton lied, nobody died" he said something along the lines of how fucked up it was that it took lying about a blowjob to get impeached, where starting a unneccessary war that kills thousands of innocent people doesnt'

anybody else enjoy nunuchka in the lanes? they were crazy

Anyone see Hunchback's guitarist impale his leg on a toolbox on day 1?

but Torgo, they weren't FUNNY

If anyone couldn't figure out, here it is: The HR and Benoit comments were JOKES, you know, funny haha. Break it up a bit with some homophobia, why not?

The Benoit comment was extremely tasteless. So were the 12 or so comments in a row, which were obviously all done by one guy, and should be deleted.

...evildeadalive

Lucero played really well in my opinion. Souls kinda ended on a boring note, and Bad Brains could have been a lot better

This review is more painful than Manos! The Hands Of Fate!

Damn you Torgo!

i saw bad brains a few years ago when they toured as "Soul Brains." it was easily one of the weirdest things i've ever seen. HR sat in a chair on the stage the whole set and kept looking at a bird he had brought on stage in a huge cage. that and he had a giant duffle bag under his arm the whole time.

I think it's important to call people on their hate. That said, I think that sentence in this review was a cheap shot. Hope that's clear.

Why does it say live in South Hackensack when the festival was in Asbury Park?
anyways awesome festival, on both days, well mainly the 2nd. The Weakerthans and the Ergs! were the only good bands on day 1

Benoit'd? What, you got the Crossface Crippler? You got on some steroids? You committed double murder-suicide?

I'm straight and gays don't make me "nervous"...perhaps that's because I'm secure enough in my own sexuality not to worry about a man attempting to shove his gizmo in my backdoor. Many of you have some serious soul searching to do.....what two men do in the privacy of their own home is none of your damn business anymore than it is what you do with your girlfriend behind closed doors, nor is it any of your fucking business if those same two men (or women) want to get married and actually call it marriage. And don't tell me marriage is only a religious ceremony....last time I checked Atheists, Agnostics and all sorts of non-homophobic religious people still get married. Homophobes (and racists) really need nothing more than a swift kick to the ass.

Well I don't hate gays, or anyone for that matter. But gay people do make nervous, the very thought that another guy may want to stick his penis in my butthole is enough to make me cringe. As it would be with any straight, twat loving man.

A homophobe is a person who fears or hates homosexuals and homosexuality.

Just to clear it up for everyone.
If you think being a homophobe is alright you are a dumbass.

1. Lucero played and you didn't watch?
I didn't because they suck.
2. There was no bowling allowed during the band performances inside Asbury Lanes - no one likes a liar.
All you had to do was ask...
3. Bad Brains were terrible. Just because they're the Bad Brains doesn't mean you have to pretend you liked a shitty performance.
I thought they brought the funk. Guess I had my head out of my ass.
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it's hard to take this review seriously when the facts aren't right.
south hackensack? that's almost an hour and a haly away from asbury park.
bowling? not from what I saw.
get your shit together holmes.

Jesus, yes there was bowling, and Punknews fucked up the location, not me.

Yeah, the Benoit thing was kind of in bad taste

Wow, you don't see your comment as intolerant towards people who don't agree with homosexuality? It's a matter of principles...beliefs, everyone is entitled to their own, it's life.

There is something wrong with not agreeing, it means you are intolerant and you think they're wrong for their own choices, which makes you a homophobe.

yes it was definitely a cheap shot... and good call with the Danzig and Johnny Ramone thing too

Why are you glad that it's brought all the time? The guy simply disagrees with the homosexual lifestyle, there's nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with people who are homosexual or agree with the lifestyle.

I kinda agree with the "cheap shot" comment below, even though I'm glad it's brought up on a regular basis.

this is the same bouncing souls setlist as the last review. i hope they just hang it up. they are boring now. same old song and dance.

"I guess being 25 years older and turning into a homophobe will do that to you"

What a lame FN cheap shot man. So the dude doesnt like gays and doesnt agree with homosexuality. We all know this, its nothing new and having to throw a homophobe crack in every time someone mentions HR is just weak. If he was still going on a anti-gay tyrade then fine, but that noise has been dead for quite some time. Dont hear as many people getting all up in their shit bout guys like Glen Danzig or Johnny Ramone with their racially charged comments or guys like Phil Alselmo being a blatant racist prick. How about Lee Ving's homophobic comments regardless if he ment what he said or not. Shit is said and done and we're over it! Misfits, Ramone, and Fear were amazing bands despite their veiws/comments same goes for Bad Brains. How many other 80s HC bands had anti gay sentiments in their songs so comon get over it. Unless HR came to the show spitting hate and anti-gay comments you should stick to the facts about the show itself.

oh and as far as Bad Brains in 07 goes....see them for novelty purposes only.

ill shut up now

Yeah, I mean you never see that, especialy on punknews.

thank you so much for calling out the homophobia of bad brains. too many people let that shit slide.

Even funnier is making a connection that being a homophobe make you mentally unstable.

it's especially funny seeing as calling someone a homophobe isn't racist.

"It took 27 years for racism to finally rear its ugly head at bad brains - shame on punknews ,.... As a vet of rock and roll in general it's sad to see the lack of journalistic knowledge - you guys don't know what it means to be punk- i'll explain:

punk is to express your self within your own capabilities,speaking out on issues that concern you.. Not so much jumping off stage,or even being in tune ,shame on your reveiw of the bad brains show, this only proves that punknews is probaly owned by fox or cnn,
all i can say is shame on the haters,and we the bad brains will not give up our quest,and will continue to thrive to bring you proggressive music regardless your rookie blinded comments- d. Jenifer"

There is NO way that Darryl Jennifer wrote that. It's funny when people pretend to be one of the band members. Very sad.

JohnGentile, its a completely different song. I think it sounds much better than the Black Dots one actually

Jello played California Uber Alles and another DK song with the kid band backing him, it was so F'n awesome. Lucero was great too but they got there a little late. Bad Brains was still amazing despite a lazy HR, but just like sex when its bad its still kinda good.

torgo is a faggot

togo likes it in his ass

torgo is a homo

asshole review

the guy/kid who reviewed this is a fuck.

god didnt create faggots.hahahahha

long live the mother fucking bad brains

the reviewer sounds like a little kid. you suck.

dont eat no fudge bums

eat fuck you dirty faggots

id love to beat the fuck out of the reviewer

fuck the reviewer

fuck this review

Benoit'd? that's fucked up man

"I guess being 25 years older and turning into a homophobe will do that to you."

THE WORDS OF A PHOBIC HOMO,

It took 27 years for racism to finally rear its ugly head at bad brains - shame on punknews ,.... As a vet of rock and roll in general it's sad to see the lack of journalistic knowledge - you guys don't know what it means to be punk- i'll explain:

punk is to express your self within your own capabilities,speaking out on issues that concern you.. Not so much jumping off stage,or even being in tune ,shame on your reveiw of the bad brains show, this only proves that punknews is probaly owned by fox or cnn,
all i can say is shame on the haters,and we the bad brains will not give up our quest,and will continue to thrive to bring you proggressive music regardless your rookie blinded comments- d. Jenifer

I heard that Jello was going to do some music with some of ther kids at that show. Was that true and what songs did they play?

Also, does anyone know if "Send you know flowers" off the new Bad Brains album is a different version than the one on the Black Dots album?

"I guess being 25 years older and turning into a homophobe will do that to you."

you're an asshole

that sucks that they only played one song from the new album.. it'd be cool to hear a couple other new ones

it's hard to take this review seriously when the facts aren't right.

south hackensack? that's almost an hour and a haly away from asbury park.

bowling? not from what I saw.

get your shit together holmes.

"What are some examples of bad band names in Jello’s eyes? Gym Class Heroes, These Arms Are Snakes and Total Chaos just to name a few."

When you're pushing 50 & still go by the name "Jello", you're not really in a position to be putting down anyone's name.

Lucero, Bouncing Souls, Bad Brains, The Loved Ones...

holy cow...GREAT show!

They need to tour.

1. Lucero played and you didn't watch?
2. There was no bowling allowed during the band performances inside Asbury Lanes - no one likes a liar.
3. Bad Brains were terrible. Just because they're the Bad Brains doesn't mean you have to pretend you liked a shitty performance.

no surprise about HR....I've lost all hope that he will return from the dark side of physical retirement (I lost hope long ago that he'd regain his sanity). Hell, today even Danzig says his "perfect day" would be sleeping in late and watching a movie.....what the fuck happened to you guys??? Are Henry Rollins and Jello Biafra really the only pissed off 40 punkers left?? (not to say Bad Religion aren't stil great NMOH is their best album since No Control....but they aren't what I'm talking about here).

great job by the reviewer- just disappointed with what he had to say, mainly about bad brains

It was in Asbury Park, not South Hackensack, not sure why that's there.