Midtown - Living Well Is The Best Revenge (Cover Artwork)


Midtown: Living Well Is The Best RevengeLiving Well Is The Best Revenge (2002)
Universal Music Group

Reviewer Rating: 4

Contributed by: maverickScott
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Ah, Midtown. How I missed thee. I've been a fan of this band since "back in the day," before they got signed to Drive-thru or anything. We used to exchange emails all the time, and they even linked to my old band on their webpage [and vice versa]. Those guys even kept the link up even after they.
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Ah, Midtown. How I missed thee. I've been a fan of this band since "back in the day," before they got signed to Drive-thru or anything. We used to exchange emails all the time, and they even linked to my old band on their webpage [and vice versa]. Those guys even kept the link up even after they hit it big, touring with Blink 182 and the Warped Tour. They are by far the nicest guys in rock that I've ever met; and it definitely shows in their music. That can be a good and a bad thing.

On one hand, the music contained on this, Midtown's second proper full-length and major label debut, is easy to swallow, and unlike some bands, leaves no bitter aftertaste. This band is sincere in every note they strum and every harmony they sing, no matter how many times Pro Tools was used. On the other hand, the album doesn't have much of an edge to it. If you're looking for agressive, in your face punk rock, move on. This is music that your little sister could get into. This is music that your parents wouldn't mind letting you put in the car stereo on a long trip. Most importantly, this is the music of Midtown.

It's obvious that Midtown are just all-around nice guys - first off, their last album was called "Save The World, Lose The Girl." If you look at the lyrics, you'll understand my point even further. Sure, the majority of songs are about girls [what pop-punk band's songs aren't?], but whereas some bands abuse their lost loves in song [see: Alkaline Trio, Dashboard Confessional... well, most of Vagrant Records], Midtown's lyrics represent that well-meaning but socially-inadequate kid at the high school dance, trying to win over the prom queen. Trust me guys, we're all pulling for you [although with their pretty boy looks, I doubt they need any help scoring gash].

Musically, if you liked the band's older material, this is right up your alley. The album kicks off with a triumverate of rock, with "Become What You Hate," "Still Trying," and "Get It Together" packed to the brim with big hooks, lush harmonies, and enough "Yeah!"s to sink a ship. The band lays out their card right away on this album: their goal is to rock you.

The album continues on with the presumed first single, "Like A Movie." It's a bit more dumbed down than most Midtown material, it's more pop-punk than the band usually is, but hey, whatever breaks the radio market, right? It's still a good, hummable song. The album then slips into a bit of a rut for the next 4 songs, ending up sounding like background music for the next teen sex comedy. Nothing too memorable sticks out until track 9, "A Faulty Foundation" rolls around. This is the hardest and fastest song on the album, and it's quickly becoming one of my favorite Midtown tunes overall. It's a classic story of love lost ["What if this had not happened, woah-oh / What if she hadn't gone"] that only Midtown can tell. The album continues to finish off on a bang with "In The Songs" and "Find Comfort In Yourself." The former is a shoutout of sorts to all their friends back in New Jersey for supporting them through the years [aren't odes to fans done only by boy bands? Oh well.], and the latter is another uptempo emotional punk number that has guest vocals from Vinnie of the Movielife. It's a great album closer, and another definite standout.

The production on this album is crystal clear, and it will come to no surprise that Mark Trombino produced this album. He makes the band sound as loud as possible but he still leaves space for the band to grow, which they definitely will. Midtown's major label debut isn't perfect, but it's as good as the band can get right now. I won't mind hearing this on the radio next to Jimmy Eat World, the Strokes and Dashboard Confessional - at least it's not Puddle of Mudd or Hoobastank. If this were any other band, I would give this a lower score, but because I know this is Midtown, I know that this is as sincere and as honest as the band can get.


Get It Together
Still Trying
Like A Movie
Become What You Hate
Find Comfort In Yourself


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Anonymous (May 31, 2005)

Great Album!!!

Anonymous (May 12, 2004)

why is it that there is always a link to the words pill and car now?

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

people should lay off scott for not liking Face To Face because they are boring... he's just being honest, hell i think fuckin ska gets boring, and i agree F2F gets boring, i also think pennywise is repetitive which also gets boring... dont get pissed at someone for their opinion it is their own

Anonymous (March 18, 2003)

this shit is sad.

degenerate (January 26, 2003)

I dont wanna hear the strokes on the radio man. their music is like a sleeping pill and can be dangerous to listen to while driving.

punkboy_1 (January 12, 2003)

this is catchy as hell.

soulbleed (December 4, 2002)

I hate people who automatically think anything that doesn't resemble the Velvet Underground or the Ramones isn't punk: it is. Punk evolved, you retards. As much as you want to stay in the rut you're already in (we want you to stay there as well, if it's any condolence), it's impossible to ignore this. Midtown built their musical directions off the original punk definition, and while it's not annoying and actually contains harmonies, it's not very far from the original thing. So if you're going to say negative things about the band, at least say things that have a BASIS for something.

Sure this isn't the best album in the world, but it's a mighty fine pop-punk record, and I'm proud of my fellow central jersey comrades. All you idiots are just jealous

Anonymous (November 13, 2002)

i had higher expectations for this album, i thought it would be good, but i was let down. they sound like a more mature band, but they dont sound as aggressive as they did on save the world. but i guess i can say its an okay pop rock cd. stand outs were faulty foundation and one last time

MrVeryDrunk (October 24, 2002)

I was right. Midtown was dropped from MCA

Anonymous (October 9, 2002)

Is selling out the "Punk" thing to do these days. It's really a shame people think emo is punk.

I saw these guys play live. They sucked almost as much as Movielife. People in the crowd were making fun of them. One guy was yelling "punk rock" over and over again during there slowest song and a small chant of "you suck" broke out. I don' t know what the fuck they were doing opening for Face to Face (another band that fucked up and signed with a major label nearly ruining there carreer. They learned from their mistake and managed to survive) Midtown wont have to worry about losing punk credibility. They never had any. They will have to worry when they get dropped from their label though. They don't stand out at all. There are to many bands that sound just like them.

Anonymous (September 22, 2002)

1) i like this cd a lot, i like midtown a lot too, and i enjoy most of the stuff on dtr. so i guess im not punk :(

2) im all for individual thought and i agree w/fat mike in saying that george w is an idiot son of an asshole. but wait...the ideals are there...so... i am punk?

there ya go. the paradox that is more commonly known as "punk". chill with the arguing. its abstract nowadays and can mean different things to different people. deal with it.

3)to that jackass who spent half his life writing an essay about punk being sacred in a weak attempt to appease a bunch of people he doesnt know, will never know, and ultimately mean nothing to him: shut up and stop trying to be the "jesus christ savior of punk rock".(btw, run-on sentences are punk)

listen to whatever you want to listen to.

Eddie (August 16, 2002)

Great CD, and superior to "STW, LTG" by half a star. But what's with the new version of "Get it Together"? The original (on Warped '01) was much better, I think.

Anonymous (June 9, 2002)

Who the fuck cares if it is punk or not. If you like it just listen to it. Yeah I like Midtown...I also like blink-182, Snapcase, Thursday, Nofx, and the smashing pumpkins. It is all about what you like and not caring what other people like. Besides its just fucking music..not a life or death situation. Give me a breaK!

Anonymous (April 29, 2002)

punk is a sacred thing

why dont you cry about it
have fun in your new country by yourself

Anonymous (April 28, 2002)

Why are we still calling these guys "PUNK". theres nothing at all punk about them. they don't even resemble a punk band. And I don't even necessarily dislike them. Just cuz you like a band, doesn't make it punk. There's nothing wrong with liking pop music every now and then. everybody is so ashamed and reluctant to admit that they're pop. there are decent pop bands out there. they play their own instruments, so I'd give them POP-ROCK, but not POP-PUNK. thats just unfair to actual punk bands. think about how they feel when kids come to a show expecting blink style music, but get real punk instead. i mean, calling them punk, and other bands like them punk, is hurting the actual punk scene. nobody knows whats punk and whats not anymore. and it does matter. its not an elitist thing. its just that punk music has a message and an emotional link that affects so many people. why are we continually tainting something we claim to love so much. punk can be defined. punk is not a vague thing. punk is a mentality. its not an attitude. its not clothes. you can't turn punk off or on. its always there or not. it hurts me so much when little kids think this is what punk is. punk is a sacred thing. everything else in this world is ruined, so why stop. somebody has to fight for punk. the true meaning of punk is washed out and faded and just doesn't mean as much as it should to people. girls with shirts that say BLINK ME aren't punk. they're human. they might even be decent people, but GOD DAMN! LEAVE SACRED THINGS ALONE. It kils me. We've got this joker of a president pretending to run the country, when he really needs to be in a playpen or a sandbox. Some place that suits his intelligence level. He's setting us up for the apocolypse and free thought is discouraged everywhere you go. if this is punk, then punk is truely dead. i may need to come up with a new word for INDIVIDUALITY AND FREE THOUGHT, cuz its seeming like punk isn't the right word anymore. Shit like this makes me want to quit. I don't need a community to be punk, but it'd be nice to be amongst people who accept me and think the way i do, to an extent. obviously, if everybody thought exactly the same that'd be dumb, but I mean I'd like to be with people who have independent thought that isn't determined by the media or the pope. fuck em. Is it to late to break away from the union and start a new country? who's with me?

Anonymous (April 28, 2002)

i want to fuck gabe

Anonymous (April 28, 2002)

I love this album. Vocally they have grown so much from "Save the World.." Anyways,every time i've met them the band has been nothing but super nice and friendly..

Anonymous (April 25, 2002)

this album rocks!! i love it...it may not be as good as "save the world, lose the girl" but its still awsome.....for those of you who say midtown is a bunch of assholes, i met em this past weekend and the skate and surf fest and they are some of the coolest guys ive ever met in a band....

Anonymous (April 25, 2002)

Les stitches r crazy

steviesaintpaul (April 25, 2002)

Regards to my statement:

"Punk" was a fashion statement in the media before it was a sound."

( in regards to what was being exploited. Punk wasn't featured on the news or on television when the sound was started with R. Hell and The Voidoids and The Ramones. They were minding their own business in shit clubs until it was blown up in England by the BBC and exploited. Punk was looked down as a big fucking joke fad that was even more embarrassed by New Wave. Exploitation.)

steviesaintpaul (April 25, 2002)

"Just as "punk" was exploited by the media in the late 70's."

Did you ever see late 70's footage of downtown London after the punk hit England from New York? People were walking around with "PUNK" spray painted on their dress shirts. That's as cool as someone spraypainting "Swing" on their three piece suit or "Polka" on their St. John's Bay cardigan. "Punk" was a fashion statement in the media before it was a sound. If that's not exploitation I don't know what is.

Anonymous (April 25, 2002)

"Just as "punk" was exploited by the media in the late 70's."
dude i would say punk was invented in the late 70's not exploited

poopoopeepee16 (April 23, 2002)

Before hearing "Living Well..." I thought that Midtown was one of the most unoriginal and untalented bands I had ever had the displeasure of hearing. But after hearing their latest release, I think they are even worse. They haven't matured as songwriters one bit. It's been nearly two years since their Drive-Thru debut "Save the World, Lose the Girl" and they sound like the same old lame-ass band that is trying to cash in on the Blink-182/Sum 41/NFG sound. Not only that, but has anyone ever tried to speak to Gabe at a show before? I saw them play with Thrice a year or so ago and was actually surprised that Midtown put on a semi-decent show, I was hanging out outside the venue when Gabe passed by. I said something to the tune of "Hey man, great show." He didn't even turn around. He raised his hand in a half-assed way and mumbled "yeah, thanks". After that shit, Midtown would have to put out the most amazing album in history to even get me to listen to it twice.

Anonymous (April 23, 2002)

the dude w/ the anti midtown website is a fuckin herb

Anonymous (April 23, 2002)

the beginning of track 9 sounds just like pennywise till it get to the chorus listen for yerself

Anonymous (April 23, 2002)

I agree with some aspects of the post below me. That is what is going to happen with 'emo'.
I just need to mention that not all bands on vagrant are how you described. It also has to be said that f2f did change their sound for themselves, and thought the fans might like it too. IIB, an amazing album. They learned the hard way. Their fans shit on their heads and turned their backs on f2f. So? Obviously too many close minded music fans out there, so they said, fine vote for the songs on the next one. Fans voted and they released one of the shittiest albums........A N D then the fans shit on their heads. For a musician, its a barrage of constant bitching by their fans. When they get bigger the old fans bitch more and the new ones confess their undying love for the band. Until they aren't cool anymore, and then some of the old fans begin to like them again.
In this case its not the same.
Midtown sucked ass to begin with and they suck ass even more.

steviesaintpaul (April 23, 2002)


.... I must be the idiot, I know it, or are bands in this day of age being perpetually marketed like designer imposter colognes? OR SHOULD I SAY CLONES? Blasphemy!
I was reading the Village Voice the other day and strolling past the music section was a GIGANTIC fucking add for this new Midtown album.(MCA has a remarkable advertising staff I might add, sirs) The headliner? Emo Hardcore Pop Punk Straight Outta Jersey. Doesn't that just tickle you? When Midtown's first LP on Drive Thru came out, I swear there was a sign in Virgin Megastore on Times Sqaure titled: "Do you like Saves The Day? You'd love Emo Pop Punk newcomers Midtown...$17.95"


"Emo" is going to be the early decade's (or MTv's) next big thing. Guaranteed. Just as "punk" was exploited by the media in the late 70's. Real "emo" bands won't tell you that they're "emo". They just wanna rock, or yell, or cry and so on. And this is what they'll tell you if you ask them about being dubbed "emo".
Vagrant is nothing more than a fat camp for striving and once talented bands and if anyone is going to tell you that the bands that just signed aren't changing their sound they ARE FILTHY FUCKING LIARS. (Excluding Dashboard, because the acoustic has been sequential) Is it me or has every Vagrant debut release been leaked into the veins of MTv 2? "Selling out" has been disappointing many trusting fans for a while and leaves others feeling glad for them. I've been half and half on this for years but I'll tell you this: I get perturbed when a band makes it big and changes their sound(which in most cases is required), but I feel a lot better hearing real TALENT (if it is) on the radio than any of this other shit.
Never mind the fucking genres and keep fucking rocking.

Anonymous (April 23, 2002)

the best track on the album is #8 One last time sung and written by tyler. tyler has the best voice and he should sing all the songs fuck that whiney bitch GAYbe.

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

best cd of the year. SO much better than their last one. best pop/punk/rock mix i've heard. Great voices, not whiny like all the other bands in their genre.

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

I made the post before about how i hate midtown i hate midtown i hate midtown... i dont hate the music that midtown plays but i hate them because of the bullshit that has come up lately regarding them and drive thru. Midtown is a band full of assholes and i hope they dont make it big just so they would wish that they were still on drive thru when MCA drops them or they break up. I gate gabe he is a piece of shit... i saw them this weekend and when i came back to find out all this shit was going down i was sickened by the fact that i actually sat through their performance at Skate and Surf Fest

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

...........but the cover is lame.

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

I like em. So fuck you.

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

you're the bigggest moron ever

Anonymous (April 22, 2002)

I hate midtown i hate midtown i hate midtown... I ever put a page up on my website about how much i hate midtown i hate midtown i hate midtown... click here to find out why!

Anonymous (April 21, 2002)

I find it funny how some people read a letter written by drive thru and the think that it's all true, I think drive thru was pulling a lot of that shit out of their ass. If you knew what most of your favorite bands said about making money and whatnot you'd despise them, this just got blown out of proportion

Anonymous (April 21, 2002)

Drive-thru suxs ass
Midtown cool for talkin shit about the label who's turned punk into a joke

Anonymous (April 21, 2002)

i couldent care less if its a hobby to gabe, he probly spent lots of money for college and wants to live a comfortable life. THey bashed drive-thru and hot topic U cant beat that

AtarisHeyKid84 (April 20, 2002)

This CD stuck with the roots of good old midtown, but showed their maturity in song writing and how diverse they can be. They show a lot of talent without changing their style.

Anonymous (April 20, 2002)

bottom line should ready "because I'm sure you wouldn't..."

Anonymous (April 20, 2002)

I honestly don't listen to too much music like this. I don't own any albums put out by drive-thru. I bought this album cause it was 7 bucks at best buy and it's worth it. You guys are getting all worked up because you expected Midtown to come out with London Calling or something. It's nothing ground breaking, but it's a solid album that is easy/fun to listen to. Get over yourself, I bet if you listened to it with an open mind you would like it, or at least not bash it. Just don't tell any of your friends, cause I'm you wouldnt want to lose your cred. but listening to midtown.

Anonymous (April 20, 2002)

Just to add to the guy's comment three down about the money issue... In the letter that drive thru wrote about midtown (which can be viewed at http://www.punkbands.com/news) they explained how Midtown was gonna call it quits if the money didn't come in... Gabe said that it's his "HOBBY"... not his life... so yah bro, your totally right with that one.

Anonymous (April 19, 2002)

complete waste of money. this album is without a doubt the worst cd ive ever heard. And fuck midtown for spreading lies about drive-thru. Get American Paradox.

Anonymous (April 19, 2002)

midtown r far from nsync bro
i saw them last night they were fuckin loud and the looked like bums

Anonymous (April 19, 2002)

Midtown suck. Plain and simple.
I can't really seem to find anything 'punk' about there music. It sounds more like pop to me.
Take out the guitar riffs and add keyboards. A couple of chimes here and there and voila you have the 'alternative' version of the nsync, or backstreet boys.
Guys come on. I thought this was a punk site. Punk isn't just about music its about a way of life. Midtown doesn't seem to cut it. It sounds like they are in it for the money, and when thats gone, surely they'll be gone too.

I think this site should be renamed to Pop and Emo news. Thank god that this type of music is only a fad. And hopefully on its way out. I'd rather the kids today be listening to new kids on the block than midtown.

Anonymous (April 19, 2002)

Know what would make Midtown better? Fire. And lots of it.

sickboi (April 18, 2002)

I never really listened to much of Midtown...they seem to sound like every other Drive-Thru band. I just saw them open for Face to Face in DC and boy did they suck. Every song sounded the same. What a bunch of pretentious turds. God-awful.

whendovescry (April 18, 2002)

Man Scott, are you ever getting torn a new one.

I doubt if you read the comments after you write the review, but this is some stuff, I'll tell you.

How come people don't get this heated about my review of CURSIVE or Q AND NOT U?

The world may never know.

Midtown reminds me of the feces that slips from the anus that has been penetrated too many times, but another solid review Scotty.

Anonymous (April 18, 2002)

Damn. After reading that WHOLE response, I think I have completely formed a different opinion of midtown.
Instead of thinking they suck shit, I now know that they suck shit and are too ignorant to realize. I actually didn't think there was anything 'punk' about them to begin with.
A bunch of wankers if you ask me. Time will give us the true answers though. Let's see how long this band lasts as all the little girls get older and start listening to better music (ie; backstreet boys next album....I am guessing it'll be better than this)

Anonymous (April 18, 2002)

less fighting more oral!

Anonymous (April 18, 2002)

I'm sorry but i don't like Midtown... just never got into them. I listened to the albumn and didn''t enjoy it that much, but that isn't what I came on here for.

I think all of you should check out this interview that midtown did with punkbands.com totally cutting up Drive-Thru... then read the interview that the owners of drive-thru wrote clarifying the whole situation. It is deffinitely something to read.

check it out at http://www.punkbands.com/news

it's under the heading Midtown vs Drive Thru

lou-s (April 18, 2002)

i dunno if anyone is still reading that far down, but i mentioned HATEBREED in my last comment, and i dunno if anyone took in the wrong way, i have nothing against hatebreed, i listen to 'em sometimes... i was just using them as an example because some guy below me said that "emo" kids wouldn't last in a hatebreed pit, and i was just proving a point about stereotyping ppl... sorry hatebreed fans

Anonymous (April 18, 2002)

Y dont u all cry about it

Anonymous (April 18, 2002)

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Once you do that some people are going to go off the wagon and start comparing band hating scene hating comments as things that should also be removed.
Just start blocking ip's. Its simple.
Racists and facists fuck off right? I say 0 tolerance, and someone posts something like that, they should be blocked from the site.

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Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

holy shit
i thought after reading the review midtown would be good. Just another op-punk emo band. Shit, after such a harsh f2f review I thought this guy was the know it all of good music. Guess I was wrong.
Midtown sounds like the cousin of blink 182. Thank god I didn't buy the album and I can happily delete the mp3s from the hard drive.
If you like punk DON"T WASTE YOUR TIME downloading this album.
All you retards complain about simple plan being so cheesy, hope none of you listen to this band.
What happend to punk bands playing with a bit of speed????? Everyone is now using shitty slow ass 80's rock beats. If I want that I'll listen to BON fucking JOVI

wyzo (April 17, 2002)

cmon. your own petty prejudices have no place in a record review.

it has not been proven your born christian either, you don't see an army of gay men and women trying to 'change' christians do you?


Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

ludacris is a gay nigger

Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

ludacris your born black
it has not been proven u are born gay

Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

I hope you mean "abuse" as in "not in reference with good intentions" opposed to "too much", because Alkaline Trio never do anything too much.

Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

I think the album is good, 4 songs after like a movie aren't forgettable Scott, but rather the song like a movie is forgettable and the rest of the CD kicks ass. One last time should be the single, as for the interview, sweet, as for the signing to MCA, fine MCA gives us cheap punk CD's, as for bashing Face To Face? Scott you are a girl. I guess they are too hard for you, you probably hate Avail or Sick Of It All, maybe even Rise Agaainst cause they are too hard for you, or too much punk. I'm out...

ludacris (April 17, 2002)

what wrong with being gay? why don't you call me a nigger too.

Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

i hope its not dudes complaining about the cover cause if it is u must be gay
cause there nothing ever wrong with a cd cover w/ hot chicks
or maybe your just into the busted punk chicks

degenerate (April 17, 2002)

great cd, maybe a liitle 2 soft on the ears. oh and why the fuck hasnt their first cd been released in the uk, ive had 2 download it. just wondering, did u americans get the bonus song 'make this right' thats track 12

ludacris (April 17, 2002)

this is for the interview. damn, i didn't know drive-thru fucked u guys like that. fuck em.

Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

Reading through the shit at the bottom, who's to say that hatebreed fans can't be, or aren't midtown fans?
i know plenty of hardcore kids, and i'd like to consider myself one of them, who dig pop-punk and core.
by the way, i held my own at both hatebreed and midtown shows recently.


Anonymous (April 17, 2002)

i havent heard the whole cd, enough though to know its Midtown like it always was and thats fine with me. and enough with the bitchin, come on, what the hell does punk promote?? anyone? yeah diversity,some prefer hatebreed, strung out (older stuff) and circle jerks and the like, and some may dig blink (personally nah..) but thats cool with me, have preferences, punk is like a buffet and its all you can eat variety style. midtown is band that can be appreciated/or not at all, but you cant deny the fact the still make music, they still rock out (in many peoples opinions) and they must not be gettin as much puss as you think if you happen to notice alot of the songs are about heart breaks, call it emo, call it poppy punk, call it your savior, whatever, its punk in someones eyes and thats all that matters to them. sure they have whoahs, but harder bands have blahs and stick it up your asses, thats the beauty of punk. your girlfriend dump you? chill to some dashboard. you getting psyched for a road trip? listen to midtown. wanna tear shit apart? listen to hate breed. punk is about rockin out, but its also undeniably about emotion, you cant have one without the other. rockin out without emotion= yonnie. rockin with emotion and goinn crazy with tons of energy=midtown (ive seen them live, trust me, theres energy there to spare). so youd like to see f2f fans last in a mosh pit at hatebreed? well id like to see you last in an 8 hour car ride listening to jock jams. long stuff short- get the cd if youre into it, otherwise dont diss what you dont dig. personally i dig it, i pretty much dig all punk, not a crime, i love it all, proud to say that punk has ruined my life.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

If the bouncing souls stopped doing odes to fans and friends, they would have to cut out almost half of thier songs

maverick (April 16, 2002)

To the guy 4 posts down:
Face To Face used the *exact same recording.* At least Midtown rerecorded the song [same with "A Faulty Foundation].


Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

i saw midtown with f2f last week (f2f blew them off the stage btw), but thats not what i had a problem with.....do those guys fucking bathe? jesus christ, i thought that one guitar player was gonna try and wash my windshield or ask me for change or something......good fucking god, what a bunch of dirtballs

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

The records ok
but midtown get's mad puss so i think they care less if they were punk or not
and if any of you were geeting puss u waouldent care about being punk either

ludacris (April 16, 2002)

sorry.the music sucks just as bad if not more than the cover. happy?

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Just thought I would quote your F2F review for a sec here, "To add insult to injury, the band includes "Fight or Flight" on the album - this is the exact same version that appeared on their split CD with the Dropkick Murphys only two months earlier. I liked the song before, but including it on another release? Bad form, boys."

What?! no comment for Midtown who includes "Get It Together" to the album. A song from the Millencolin split released on Drive-Thru and Burning Heart in 2001.

Bad form my friend, I hope you have a day job, so you can quit writing pointless reviews for albums created by bands you know so little about.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Great record. I usually hate this kinda stuff, but I can't get some of these songs outta my head. Nice work boys!

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

this cd is so great, it is just one of many great cds drive-thru will be releasing this year. all you jackasses giving it one star don't know music, why don't you go listen to your supposedly "good" music Hatebreed, and just so you know yea Midtown might explode and you hate them for that but look at Hatebreed, i think they suck, but they could be on the radio soon so go suck a fatty

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

yea that last comment was weak.....and a review for the guy that got all "punk" on us....you need chocolate city in yr life expand, brother.

Josip (April 16, 2002)

"If this were any other band, I would give this a lower score..." hm, sorry, but that is kind of poor...

lou-s (April 16, 2002)

"If you guys are what punk is about, I think I would rather castrate myself with a rusty spoon then be a mentioned in the same sentence as any of you!"... on one hand, i think that debate is good, and people expressing their opinions is what makes message boards such as this interesting... on the other hand, i have to agree with this comment, because people resort to petty name calling, vulgarity, and stereotyping, there's no real validity to their opinions (i.e. from a few posts down - pop-punk ppl wouldn't survive at a HATEBREED show! RAR!... a stupid and unnecessary comment that i wasted seconds of my life reading)... and i hate how people have formed their own little cliques and all they do is talk bad about people and bands outside their clique... i think it's a little childish guys..... oh yea as far as the cd goes... i haven't heard the whole thing yet, what i heard was ok, nothing amazing .... ps - i don't wanna hear bands play music that is insincere, if someone uses the word "emo" because of this, go shove a bannana up your urethra

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

not as strong as lose the world but its ok


Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

You guys are such assholes! What a scene we have! Just a bunch of arrogant backstabbers!!! If you guys are what punk is about, I think I would rather castrate myself with a rusty spoon then be a mentioned in the same sentence as any of you!

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

my thats petty of you...to judge an album on its cover...thats pretty superficial...if you dont like midtown and you dont like the cd then say it...dont pull stuff out of your ass like the cover is shit....

ludacris (April 16, 2002)

whoever posted like 5 down from here is right, that cover sucks.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Dear Scott,
I will start off my post with a quote:
"You must make your reputation by being fair and brutally and unmericfully honest" -Lester Bangs
A problem with many zines and even bands is that everyone wants to be P.C. and no one wants to be honest. It has become and industry of "cool" and not about good music. Everyone wants to be friends with the "hot" bands who can get them backstage so they can get ass. No one has the guts to say that certain band's music is trite and boring. If you like Midtown, that's your own problem. I personally have hated this band since they were playing VFW shows and I don't give a shit that they play to thousands of kids. I do have a problem with softening one's comments because you know the band. If an album sucks, say so. It is your responsibility as a writer to say the truth, not what the bands or record labels want to hear. Maybe then we wouldn't get a million bands that all sounded the same. Maybe we would get a new breed of great bands or underrated bands getting the time in the spotlight that they deserve (cough..gameface,garrison,error type 11, cursive...cough) Getting big is not the problem...Hell why WOULDN'T A BAND LIKE MIDTOWN GET BIG!?! They play the most non-threatening music since Wham! Just don't write shit because you're expected to. it makes your reviews hold very little weight.(ps.Scott only the review stuff was towards you, everything else was towards the inane comments left on this review)

Hein (April 16, 2002)

Here's something for you all to drool over about. When I organised a Midtown show last year over here in Belgium I had the pleasure to talk to Gabe (head-vocalist) about their future. He confessed that they wanted to make money out of this band. If that wouldn't work out in a short while, he would quit the band and look for a decent job. I'm sure all the so-called real punks in here will start grinning when they read this and call it a proof as for them being another sell-out band. But let me tell you this: I agree with them. It's easy for us people who see this as a hobby, maybe even a lifestyle. But damn, it's these guys' lives you are talking about. They studied, they can do something else with their lives if they wanted to. They just give it a shot to earn money with the one thing they love doing and that is playing (punk)rock-music. Maybe they don't have a politic message to spread, maybe they are not interested in that, but they sincerely love doing this. I'm pretty sure of this, because it just shows when you hear their music and see them on stage and meet other people.
Another thing I was just reflecting on: why is everyone always bragging about yet another band that tries to sound like the next Blink 182 or New Found Glory, etc... Isn't that pretty normal? I mean, why would so many people buy their stuff you think? It's because people love that kind of music and I think it's pretty obvious that people that play in a band adore that kind of music so much that they want to sound like that. Ever thought about that? You always think it's because of the big money that is involved with it, couldn't it just be the fact that they like playing sounds like that?
Anyway, I'm not too crazy about Blink 182 or New Found Glory although I don't dislike them either, but this band is really the top of the league in my eyes. If you want to find out how I reviewed the album you can check it out at my own website punkupdates.com.
A 33 year old who loves Midtown ___ unbelievable no?

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Whatever, I love F2f, from back in the day till now, I love Midtown from back in the day till now. These guys do rock!!! Why else would Face to Face ask them to support them on their tour. Why does Jimmy Eat World ask Midtown to support them on their tours. If you naysayers only knew. Your just slobbering over the reflection of yourself that you see in others, see the light and get off the band wagon. By the way, I have the new LP and it is incredible, the sonics are amazing and the songs even better. I like the rocking ones better too but I dont feel like Midtown is doing anything else other then what they want to do. I know them well enought to tell you that they are sincere and real as they come.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

I just got the LP today and it rocks! I loved Midtown's last release and I like this one even better. Sounds incredible and honest!

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

That has to be the shittiest album cover ever. They even have a midtown poster in the back ground. How fucking gay. They look like a bunch of pretty boys trying to be all old school punk and jaded on the back cover but to me, they lok like a bunch of posers. The music inside is pretty good though and I guess that is all that matters.

ludacris (April 16, 2002)

i give these guys a 2. id give em a 1 but their from my state so that gives them something.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

nice spelling on the name too scott.....another stellar job

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

terrible band - bigjerk

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

lol... i'd like to see this band on one stage with hatebreed. i'd like to see their fans share the same pit with hatebreed. i'd like to see they mosh with hatebreed's fans. or toxic narcotic is fine.

hell, that goes to all blink-pop-related so called "punk" bands. enjoy your own blood.

it'd be funny.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

i like midtown and i think face to face is boring as shit, also. these guys are still playin' the same rock as from before the major label, not many bands can say that. thumbs up.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)


Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

so.....you hate face to face, you consider them boring.....but you love midtown? wow, you really are a jackass aren't you

-frank stallone

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

I heard this album on some webpage... it was ok. I never liked Midtown all around but there more edgy stuff appealed to me more ("Just Rock and Roll" and others). This album is definitley full of a bunch of songs that in a month or 2 i will be skipping over and around to get to the rock. But I give Midtown credit because I know this is what they want to play and they are not changing for anyone.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Wait a minute, you like this but you dont like face to face.... Quite sad. -oldpunker-

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

Stop suckin' Midtown's dick. These guys are nothing special, but you act like they are because you knew them "back in the day."

These guys are only getting attention because they're another "punk" band who've signed to a major.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

From what I have heard of Midtown, they are pretty damn solid, but of course they sing about girls so they must suck like Blink, right? Don't all of you "real punkers" get tired of posing and slamming everything from Blink to Midtown to NOFX to BR to F2F and on and on? Enjoy the music and stop taking yourself so seriously. Oh, and Scott, you keep dropping those names, and we'll keep trying not to trip over them.


Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

i hate midtown with a passion, but it was an alright review. and to the guy who says music is not about sincerity you must listen to blink,cause i dont wouldn't like to "rock out" to a bunch of insincere assholes.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

If this were any other band, I would give this a lower score, but because I know this is Midtown, I know that this is as sincere and as honest as the band can get.

Bullshit. Music isn't about sincerity, it's about rocking, and Midtown doesn't rock. They suck, sincerely and severly.

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

scott's a girl, i know why he hate's face to face now

Anonymous (April 16, 2002)

the next 4 songs after like a movie are forgettable? did you happen to just skip over "one last time"?? its a fucking power ballad, maybe the most solid track on the album.

wyzo (April 16, 2002)

Good review. But scoring gash? Scott scott scott....

thanks for giving me no room to say anything new in my review.


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