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Propagandhi

Where Quantity is Job #1 (1998)
G7 Welcoming Committee Records

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Contributed by: punky
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Published on May 14th 2002

'Where quantity...' was released in 1998 by Propagandhi's own label g-7 Welcoming Committee, and it basically is as the cover states 'Old, out of print, hard to find, unreleased,live, demo and otherwise painful and embarassing crap. Not new crap. Proceed with caution.' If you are familiar with Propagandhi, then you probably know that they are one of the best political punk bands of all time.They don't fall in the same category as those 'Fuck America' and 'Fuck the system' type of political bands.They really try to narrow everything down with more intelligent and explanatory lyrics.

The CD starts with 'Mutual friend' which is 45 second punch in the face with angry vocals by Chris.Which then moves on to 30 second instrumental thats not even listed as a song at all. 'Utter crap song' or 'Possibly the worst song ever written' (it has two names) is Propagandhi's rare song that does not contain social or political commentary, it is more of a broken friendship anthem. 'Okay everywhere' is one of the best songs, in my opinion,that they've ever written.With lyrics like: ''How valiant, how white oppressor makes allowance for calculated gestures of insurgence (all tightly tethered to their purses)'' you just cannot hate this song. Fast melodic punk continues with 'Firestorm, my ass' a demo version of 'Nailing descartes to the wall/(liquid) meat is still murder' with completely different lyrics.
'White, proud and stupid' is an attack to nazi bands. ''Nazi skins and aryans pollute our land, skrewdriver (dead), white pride (broken up) and warzone (not nazis) and other nazi bands, they're a bunch of 'fag'-bashing goons, nationalist buffoons, and they don't even know what they're talking about at all.''

Is it just me or does 'Fine day' sound a lot like 'War is peace, slavery is freedom...' from Live Fat Die Young? I was somewhat dissapointed when I've heard 'War is peace...' because of that. 'Bent' and 'Degrassi jr high dropouts' were recorded in 89. It does not have the best sound or production value, but it is always good to see where a band comes from, and how much they have musically progressed over the years. 'Bent' is a song about straight edge with lyrics like ''Your life's controlled by other's rules, forget it man, be yourself'' you know where they stand on that issue.

Live songs include 'Anti-manifesto' and 'Ska sucks' from their first album, which to be honest do not sound that good.Other live songs include 'Pigs will pay', 'Laplante song', 'Government cartoons', 'Gamble' and 'Less talk, more rock', which also in my opinion aren't the best presentation of their live sound, it just has this annoying feel to it and the sound is 'almost' terrible.
There is also a cover of Venom's song 'Stand up and be counted', demo versions of alread released songs 'and we thought that nation states were a bad idea', 'Haillie does herbon', 'Resisting tyrannical government' and one more instrumental 'Contest song'.

I would advise you to get their other proper albums instead of this if you want to hear quality and Propagandhi with better produced music. But this is a must for every Propagandhi fan, and if you like them as much as I do, you'll appreciate this record as much as I did.

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bornagainstcrackhead (October 11, 2006)

This album might be as good as how to clean everything.. You got a hairy ass haha

TIGHT (May 24, 2006)

ehhh, some songs are not as good as others on this album but overally, this is still an essential

Anonymous (January 28, 2004)

Uhh, sorry but this is one of my favourite Propagandhi albums. It is a shit load better than 'How to clean...' and comes pretty close to 'Less talk...'. And I resent the comment that all the songs from LTMR are inferior, 'resiting tyranical govts' is better even though they only added a 5 second intro to it. I also think 'refusing to be a man' benefits from the extra verse.
Furthermore, the live tracks are great. Especially some of the covers they do, I really like 'gamble'.
I say if you're a big fan (it's a contest don't you know!) then you'll like this album.
Oh yeah, I noticed a bunch of spelling mistakes and am currently compiling a petition to have your balls removed so that you can't spawn young'uns! Nah that would be petty.

plutocracy (January 13, 2004)

The liner notes of this record are often pretty hilarious, especially when they give themselves abuse for writing bad songs during their early days. There are a few gems on this disc ("Mutual Friend", "Hidden Curriculum", "True") as well as inferior yet interesting versions of songs from "Less Talk, More Rock". The record paints an effective picture of Propagandhi's history and development over the years. Unfortunately, a lot of this history and development sounds like shit. This is not Propagandhi for beginners, but strictly for nerds like us.

Anonymous (April 22, 2003)

The first few songs on this album, which are from the 'I'd Rather be Flag Burning" split with I Spy, are amazing the rest of the album consists of crappy or live versions of their masterpieces. Still worth owning for any Propagandhi fan. A note to the reviewer: the song is called "Oka Everywhere" not "Okay Everywhere" The song is about a native revolt in Oka, Quebec in 1989.

lunk (March 2, 2003)

I got this a couple of months ago. I love Propagandhi, and so i had to get it. yeah, it's old shit, and most of it sucks, and the live bit at the end is just boring for the most part, but damn there are some good songs on there! if they had just cut the last bit of the album out it would have been really good. as it is, it's just good.
bye it only if you love propagandhi, have all their other shit, and still want more.

punky (July 29, 2002)

''Nazi skins and aryans pollute our land, skrewdriver (dead), white pride (broken up) and warzone (not nazis) and other nazi bands''

Read that part again before you comment!
Also if you own this cd, then you must know that they've only included warzone in as a joke-it says so in the liner notes.

Anonymous (June 23, 2002)

Yeah, Propagandhi are a great band, but really why are they calling Warzone nazi's. That's bullshit. Ray never bashed anyone and accepted everyone into the scene. Yeah, he was in the U.S. army for a time, but that doesn't make him a nazi or a racist.

Anonymous (May 25, 2002)

"Warzone did used to be a racist band way back when, before they found the error of their ways and the hardcore straightedge scene came out in NY."

wow that's one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard....warzone was never a rascist band and ray was edge in the early 80's but he never was while warzone was around

Anonymous (May 24, 2002)

"Homophobes are just mad cause they can't get laid" is the best song in this release. Yep i'm a bisexual male who is in the punk, hardcore, and ska scene. THERE I SAID IT!

Anonymous (May 15, 2002)

Warzone did used to be a racist band way back when, before they found the error of their ways and the hardcore straightedge scene came out in NY.

Anonymous (May 14, 2002)

how dare they talk shit on Warzone
Don't forget the struggle don't sellout and dont' forget your roots

Jake BLues

maverick (May 14, 2002)

Punky-
I did edit your review, you're right, because we're trying to be more "professional" around here. The stuff about the album never being review before really ain't important, sorry.

And dude, please start capitalizing stuff. I spent like a half hour making sure all your grammar and punctuation and stuff were correct. =)

-Scott

Anonymous (May 14, 2002)

I'd have to agree that oka everywhere is one of the best songs they've written.

Anonymous (May 14, 2002)

quantity is number 1.
hense quality isn't.
hense this album blows
but there is a shitload of songs, that suck dick.

punky (May 14, 2002)

Some extra stuff that I wrote is missing...probably because it was useless crap, I know...

Anonymous (May 14, 2002)

I love Propagandhi, but this collection wasn't too good. There's a good reason for not really releasing this stuff. But damn, have they improved from this point.