does jello approve of this? he's part melvin.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

who cares? jello is a douche.

nike is really uppin' tha punx

I wouldnt I would pay half that, as I plan to do.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

even half is 4 times too much

/niveK82

180 dollar shoes are punx...i've already got two pairs

yeah way old news.

and second, who the fuck ever said The Melvins were "punk"? get over yourselves. i listen to Crass, i don't eat animals or animal bi-products and i wear nikes, kick me out of the scene.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

Done. You're out.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

thanks Bro!

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Someone (December 28, 2006)
You wear overpriced Chinese sweatshop child made shoes Where should I begin with that?

First, there was a Consumer Reports study were they de-constructed all of Nike's line and found that the design of the "guts' of all of Nike's shoes were the same, meaning the $200 and the $20 Nikes only differance was the graphics and marketing of the shoe.

Secondly, Nike used to be an American Union made shoe. Untill Mr.Knight figured out that he could Union bust by simply moving the plants out of USA and on to Chinese soil. If the Chinese workers get a little uppity about conditions, wages and benifits, the Chinese goverment is more than happy to toss the workers into their oh so very wonderful prisons where they preform medical experiments and other fun things in the name of Chairman Mao.

You see when Nike moved over to China, they started a wave of

show rest of commentYou wear overpriced Chinese sweatshop child made shoes Where should I begin with that?

First, there was a Consumer Reports study were they de-constructed all of Nike's line and found that the design of the "guts' of all of Nike's shoes were the same, meaning the $200 and the $20 Nikes only differance was the graphics and marketing of the shoe.

Secondly, Nike used to be an American Union made shoe. Untill Mr.Knight figured out that he could Union bust by simply moving the plants out of USA and on to Chinese soil. If the Chinese workers get a little uppity about conditions, wages and benifits, the Chinese goverment is more than happy to toss the workers into their oh so very wonderful prisons where they preform medical experiments and other fun things in the name of Chairman Mao.

You see when Nike moved over to China, they started a wave of American businesses closing their American plants to open new plants in China. Do you ever wonder what happens to American folks when their jobs leave towns? Well there's now no new jobs for those folks to have untill a WalMart or some other box store comes to town, and guess what they're not Union jobs. They have to go on public assistance to health insurance and to get food stamps because those jobs don't pay enough.

I have first hand seen American Union clothing plants close shop, and can tell you it's not pretty. I saw my dad's town go from thriving white picket fence Middle Class America slip into poverty pits with no tax base and everyone on welfare with health problems associated with poverty (drinking,drugs, cancer and diabities) You see when those towns don't have a local tax base, their schools loose funding, the schools loose funding, the next generation suffers and the only way out is going into the milatary.

It's your American choice to buy what ever you want to, but remember the Nike way of business screws alot of folks over in the long run. I'm not saying that you're not punk, but I will ask you to think about where your clothes come from, how those folks are treated that made your clothes and to ask your self if "slash and burn" capitalism is really good for America and for folks in China.
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Someone (December 28, 2006)

Well said.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

Converse are owned by Nike as well.

Just thought everyone should know.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

So are Airwalk, I believe.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

they sell airwalks at payless now....i don't think that's nike...i hear vans is though.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

Vans isn't owned by Nike.
Converse is and has been for several years.
Airwalk went bankrupt a few years ago. Not sure who bought them out, but yeah, Payless.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

If you're looking for a non-sweatshop verison of Converse, check this company's kicks:

www.nosweatapparel.com

I've bought a ton of stuff from these folks. The tshirts are cut really well and alot cheaper than American Apparel (and no creepy ads too)

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EyesLikeBombs (December 29, 2006)

Unfortunately, the shoes are shoddily made and will fall apart after half of year of strenous use, while sweatshop made Chucks last for years.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

Not the ones I have.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

One of the few lengthy diatribes I've seen on this site where it's actually well written and has a start, middle, end and conclusion! Well done!

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

Thank you Michael Moore.

Seriously, though that shit is true. And pretty fucking sad. Mr. Knight has claimed in the past (in an interview with Mr. Moore actually) that he'd move plants back here but, "Americans just don't want to make shoes."

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

Americans like stuff like, benefits, pay and decent working conditions. I do remember MrMoore going to a few towns that claimed they wanted a Nike plant and then getting the residents to rally. He then tried to show Mr.Knight the footage, and he refused...

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Someone (December 29, 2006)
you don't think i don't already know all of that information? i've been "punk" or whatever you want to call it for a pretty long time, so i know just about everything about coporate america and it's evils. this is where i stand, after so many years of trying and doing whatever "I" can do i realized it doesn't matter. what "I" do personally only benifits myself. me not supporting Nike or any other huge corporate shithole isn't going to do anything except make me feel better about myself. there are so many other assholes in this fucked up wolrd supporting that kind of shit that if I stop supporting a huge corporation it doesn't matter to anyone but myself. call me fucked up, i am, but i just don't give a shit anymore. i like what i like and that's that. don't think the thought doesn't my mind ever, it does, but like i said not everyone is going to change their ways to actu

show rest of commentyou don't think i don't already know all of that information? i've been "punk" or whatever you want to call it for a pretty long time, so i know just about everything about coporate america and it's evils. this is where i stand, after so many years of trying and doing whatever "I" can do i realized it doesn't matter. what "I" do personally only benifits myself. me not supporting Nike or any other huge corporate shithole isn't going to do anything except make me feel better about myself. there are so many other assholes in this fucked up wolrd supporting that kind of shit that if I stop supporting a huge corporation it doesn't matter to anyone but myself. call me fucked up, i am, but i just don't give a shit anymore. i like what i like and that's that. don't think the thought doesn't my mind ever, it does, but like i said not everyone is going to change their ways to actually make a significant change, and i guess i'm "buying in" or whatever the fuck you want to call it. i frankly don't give a shit about too many things now a days. like someone else said in a comment in this same thread Converse is also made by Nike in a sweatshop in China. now let me ask you this, what kind of shoes are you wearing right now? i'll take a big guess and say... yeah, it's the same fucking thing.
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Someone (December 29, 2006)
All I asked you to do take in my information, you're an adult, capable of your own making up your own mind. I respect your free choice of what you want to wear and eat. I find that putting your money where your ideals are at, has been a family tradition for several generations of my family and what I think is right. You have to come to your own verison of right and wrong, no one else can do it for you.
I just don't like "slash and burn" capitalism, that's all. You should question everyone and everything, it proves you're alive and thinking, including me.

As for my choice in shoe, right now I have a pair of Red Wings on and as for my sneaker, I wear NoSweat's NotChucks. My pants, Ben Davis, American Union made, my socks, American Union made from Bangor,ME. The rest of my clothes, the same, sweatshop free.

I'am going to go crack a beer n

show rest of commentAll I asked you to do take in my information, you're an adult, capable of your own making up your own mind. I respect your free choice of what you want to wear and eat. I find that putting your money where your ideals are at, has been a family tradition for several generations of my family and what I think is right. You have to come to your own verison of right and wrong, no one else can do it for you.
I just don't like "slash and burn" capitalism, that's all. You should question everyone and everything, it proves you're alive and thinking, including me.

As for my choice in shoe, right now I have a pair of Red Wings on and as for my sneaker, I wear NoSweat's NotChucks. My pants, Ben Davis, American Union made, my socks, American Union made from Bangor,ME. The rest of my clothes, the same, sweatshop free.

I'am going to go crack a beer now, you should too.
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Someone (December 29, 2006)

there you go. i respect you and that whole post. i think i'm going to have to wait a little bit for the beer though, later tonight it's on!

and second, who the fuck ever said The Melvins were "punk"? get over yourselves. i listen to Crass, i don't eat animals or animal bi-products and i wear nikes, kick me out of the scene.

Let me see if I understand this... you won't eat meat, but you'll wear shoes made out of leather?

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

i'm do not live a vegan lifestyle, but i do not consume animal products or bi-products. we can get into symantics if you want.

Because I know the person who had the shoes made and he loves the Melvins. You have to remember Nike is based in Oregon. Seeing as to where the Melvins are from, they have a big fan base up there.

you fucking racist.

shut the fuck up
the first hardcore punk band in history was a black band

asshole

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

hahahahhaahahahhahahha. NIGGERCORE!!!

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BrandonSideleau (December 28, 2006)

This is pure flame bait....but still, just in case.......fuck you white-trash piece of shit.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

Shut up! Fifty years ago, we would've had you upside down with a fucking fork up your ass!

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Dusticles (December 28, 2006)

50 years from now that is where i hope you are.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

The fork says "I'm done!"

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

I had read a lot about lynchings and and crossburnings, but it wasn't until Kramer that I learned that upside down anal-forkings were a popular racist intimidation technique.

Take your hate speech elsewhere, Hitler!

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

The holocaust wasnt real.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

Seriously. Those jews are just a bunch of attention whores.

I hope you get shot by Young Jeezy.

Eh, Nike is big amongst the hip hop scene, but that doesn't mean it is exclusive to that scene. It's probably the biggest shoe company there is, so while the blingy thugs are out there buying Nikes, a lot of other people are too.

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usversusthem (December 28, 2006)

The model in question, the Dunk, is bigger with the mostly-white skater crowd than with the mostly-black baller crowd.

Black people have better taste than to wear those.

Hey man are you new to the scene. Dunks and records are where its at. ROCK VEGAS BABY

I thought 50 Cent had some Reeboks.

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daved4 (December 28, 2006)

god help us

Reebok made 50 Cent shoes years ago.

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giant_robot (December 29, 2006)

g unit shoes. i'm getting some for my son.

pierre bouvier?

gtfo

Black Vans with red trim.

You win. That made me laugh!

where can you find atleast a fucking picture, Ive searched EVERYWHERE for them.

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Someone (December 29, 2006)

http://www.skateboards.com/images/Products/PAAAIADNDKNAHADM.jpg

It's news because it wasn't reported yet, and the majority of those posting weren't aware of them. Sorry for not being as up-to-date on the latest Eastbay catalog as you.

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punkbytheounce (December 28, 2006)

I love it when PN staffers go on the offensive.

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AphasiacIIC (December 28, 2006)

they really should.. great staff but shitty ass regular posters

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Archangel (December 28, 2006)

Weak excuse.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

you make the worst videos ever. EVER. fuckin dbag

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skaboom (December 28, 2006)

Looks like someone didn't get their allowance this week.

again, who said The Melvins were so fucking "punk"?

did you know they were on a major lable for half a decade? is that "punk"? dipshits.

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rkl (December 28, 2006)

and they werent on a major for the decade before that.
dipshit.

They get paid and I'm pretty sure they're not forced to work. Thus: not slaves.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

is this sort slavery ever going to end?

don't like it, don't support it. all you can do is personal, nothing you ever do is going to be anymore than that. there's no use in bitching about it because you and i both know that it's not going to do anything and any kind of corprate greed/slavery is never going to end.

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Someone (December 28, 2006)

Hey can you ask your unicorn to drop me off at the magic castle, I want to see the rainbow.

When they were released back in 1986, they were a basketball shoe... but as technology since then has made them obsolete on the court, they've been adopted by skaters and nike now markets them pretty exclusively to this demographic.

Yeah? Is it called Nogales, Mexico?

Link to where you can buy them?

How do Melvins shoes out price those of jason Kidd , Michael Jordan, and Lebron?

exactly. theres so many other punk bands, or bands in general, that should get a shoe before these guys.

the melvins don't really give a shit about anything. This is just another notch on the list. They do what they want and make good music. I'd rather not call them hypocrites because they played the instruments to Jello's ranting ie Jello Biafra AND the Melvins.

very true very true