I started with A Flight and a Crash, and it took a while to get used to, but now their one of my favorite bands.

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mattp330 (November 14, 2008)

agreed. same for me

I've got 4 albums and that is the one I'm having a hard time getting in to so maybe. It took me a long time, like everyone says, to get it though. I literally force fed myself No Division for 2 weeks thinking 'how could this many people possibly be wrong?' Then one night I was in bed listening and not even really paying attention cause I was playing texas hold'em on my ipod and next thing I know I'm moshing with myself.

I started with Caution and hated it. After a year of ignoring it, I went back and fell in love. Month later I got No Division and that's one of my all time favorite albums... ever. Eventually I got into all their albums. It's acquired, I think.

Inb4 Matt says "No Division" for the fortieth time.

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Inb4 John agrees

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

you'd have pulled it off too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their damn mattramone

By overwhelming popular demand, I will persevere with Hot Water Music. Thanks guys.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

Won't regret it.

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dev (November 13, 2008)

You'll be growing a beard in no time now.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

HWM has been one of my favorites for three years now and i still can't grow a beard.

I should also note that I absolutely love Chuck Ragan’s solo stuff. That’s the reason I wanted to hear more HWM. All I’d heard of HWM before buying the album were a couple of songs from my old Punk O’ Rama comps.

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kneel (November 13, 2008)

did you get the chris wollard album?

so fucking good

Holy fuck, I don't think you could've started with a worst HWM album. Caution rules, but I think to really hear some of their best work you'd have to go with No Division.

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

That first sentence is really fucking wrong.

Wow. I fucked up hitting the reply button.

Fuel For The Hate Game, absolutely. Caution is OK, but I don't understand all the love for it. Their earlier albums had such a weird and awesome sound, why did they fuck with it?

Also, this is probably the 1,000,000th time this argument has been had on this website

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

I get bored playing the same thing for a week, couldn't imagine playing the same way for years.

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wolfshirt (November 13, 2008)

mikexdude are fucking sellouts. Whenever I go see them, they never play any early shit and the audience is full of bros

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MattRamone (November 13, 2008)

Comment of the day.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

We don't have too many of those anymore, do we?

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

that is my favorite also. there is something epically elemental and unfiltered. Like the raw scream of a soul, without being filtered through a personality and all it's attendant window dressings.

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

and not in a gay afi way like I made it sound.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

But I don't like this; afi rules

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

I like them ok too. but you have to admit there are gay aspects. Just like between you and baldsteve. not that there's anything wrong with that.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

Baldsteve is a great guy, I almost feel bad for the shit I say to him.

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

He sure doesn't. amirite?

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

I know this- in a steel cage he will mess you up.

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mikexdude (November 13, 2008)

I like the way you put this.

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

that makes me happy cause when I first got it I spent a lot of time trying to figure out just what 'it' was and I ended up with something like that.

caution

That's what she said.

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

To whom? You? She sees mine fine.

That's a shame, Dancing for Decadence is a fantastic album.

More bands should do this!

but did they tell you the score?

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Shine my shoes!

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Shine my shoes!

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Fuck you, Ok! button!

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

ok, christ!

let me go get my shinebox.

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MattRamone (November 13, 2008)

Billy Bats?

The conversation was probably, "I can't believe kids in the US like this garbage, too!"

I always think they look extremely comfortable when I see people with them but I never think to buy one.

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jacknife737 (November 13, 2008)

same here

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MilesQToast (November 13, 2008)

yeah I'm tellin' ya, it's one of those few products that actually works as well as you think it might.

Those things are great.

I had one that smelled really bad. But then again, I drool a lot, and the two are probably related.

I need an mp3 or something of that. I always heard rumors about it but never heard it. Internet, you will send me the solution immediately!

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MattRamone (November 14, 2008)

e-mail me at mattramone@hotmail.com and I will hook you up as soon as I get back from my job interview.

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Spazner (November 14, 2008)
Whoa, I'd never heard about this before, but I just found the story here. For those too lazy to click:
And then there was the Voodoo Glow Skulls debacle, which began a feud between the two bands. Hickey opened a show for VGS at the request of opening act Los Rudiments, only to find out upon their arrival they were too punk rock for the show. Frank, the singer of VGS, told them to get out, but they had driven far and they hadn't even gotten a shot at a deli tray. In turn of these events, Hickey, ever the mischief makers, took justice into their own hands in the form of trumpet liberation and sped off into the night. That night VGS went to play the show only to find they were missing a key element to their sound. after many questions asked the culprits were ratted out and Los R

show rest of commentWhoa, I'd never heard about this before, but I just found the story here. For those too lazy to click:
And then there was the Voodoo Glow Skulls debacle, which began a feud between the two bands. Hickey opened a show for VGS at the request of opening act Los Rudiments, only to find out upon their arrival they were too punk rock for the show. Frank, the singer of VGS, told them to get out, but they had driven far and they hadn't even gotten a shot at a deli tray. In turn of these events, Hickey, ever the mischief makers, took justice into their own hands in the form of trumpet liberation and sped off into the night. That night VGS went to play the show only to find they were missing a key element to their sound. after many questions asked the culprits were ratted out and Los Rudiments were thrown off the tour. From that point on things became comical. Pissed off, Frank finds Hickey's phone number and begins leaving death threats on their answering machine. Rhetoric such as "You better buy a bar of soap and wash your asshole out because i'm coming to San Fagcisco and i'm going to fuck you in your ass, Faggot." and "No matter where you are you're on Epitaph time and Epitaph money. We've got the deli tray with all the ham and turkey and shit."

Hickey's solution: release the messages as a split 7" while they play the trumpet in the background and then return the trumpet, but only after they had filled it with pudding and slapped a fake vagina on the horn. And so it goes.