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Sum 41 / Flashlight Brown

Sum 41/Flashlight Brown: live in Detroitlive in Detroit (2002)
Island Records

Reviewer Rating: 4


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Sum 41 is doing a tour of small clubs across the country, and Detroit was the first stop on the tour. I am not a huge Sum 41 fan but every time I have seen them it has been a fun show. The tongue-in-cheek humor associated with their songs and the fact that they only seem to care about goofing off .


Sum 41 is doing a tour of small clubs across the country, and Detroit was the first stop on the tour. I am not a huge Sum 41 fan but every time I have seen them it has been a fun show. The tongue-in-cheek humor associated with their songs and the fact that they only seem to care about goofing off makes for a good time. They appeal to the MTV crowd a little too much for my tastes; that Spider Man video was disturbing, and it ruined a funny song. Thankfully, this show featured none of that.

Part of that was because of the venue. I, nor anyone that I know for that matter, had ever heard of Alvin's before this show, and I spend a lot of time in the area. It is located on the outskirts of downtown Detroit, about one block from one of the most dangerous areas around. Needless to say I knew coming in there would be minimal teenie bopping. No parent in their right mind would leave their child there.

The show was not very well publicized either. Tickets were only available via internet, and those two factors made for a good lively crowd that was there to see the band and not just "the hot lead singer." (who, incidentally, is only about 5'8"…A fact I was not aware of prior to bumping into him)

Back to the venue, because it was stellar. The perfect place to see a show. The sound was great and it was intimate. Definitely better than the Shelter, but a little larger. I hope more bands come here. Tickets were only 10 bucks, too.

I arrived just before Flashlight Brown, the opening band, took the stage. They were one of the better opening bands that I have heard in a while. I had never heard any of their material before the show, but their energy and good musicianship definitely made me interested in checking them out. I apologize for not knowing what they played, but here is a link to their website here.. Worth checking out, in my opinion.

Sum 41 took the stage and opened with "Still Waiting" their current single from the new record. Their new material seems to be a tad bit faster and less poppy than their previous outings. They only played two other new songs, "Hell", and "Over my Head", during the set, and all three songs were pretty good. They blistered through their set, which featured a good mix from their previous two albums and the aforementioned new material. The band never missed a beat and played extremely well. Bizzy D was cracking tons of one-liners, and Dave Brownsound played a mean guitar. There isn't much you can say about a Sum 41 show, the music is not very deep but it is a lot of fun, with somewhat of a party atmosphere. This was magnified tenfold due to the venue they were playing in. They closed with "Pain for pleasure" not once, but twice, further proving that they do not take themselves very seriously.

Ratings:

Venue - 9. Great atmosphere. Can't say enough about it.

Set List - 7. They only played for an hour and 5 minutes. Here are the songs, in no particular order. Still Waiting, Hell, Over My Head, Nothing on My Back, Never Wake Up, Fat Lip, Motivation, Rhythms, In Too Deep, Heart Attack, Machine Gun, Pain For Pleasure, Machine Gun.

Performance - 7. Musicianship was sharp, even if they are basic songs, the band played them well.

Stage Presence - 8. Hilarious. These guys crack me up. Their antics and funny cover riffs of Avril Lavigne and The Strokes, not to mention the commentary, make good comedy.

Overall - 8. These guys deserve respect for going on this tour in small clubs charging only 10 bucks for admission. They also were selling their album at the pre-party for 5 bucks, meaning 15 bucks would get the new album and a concert. Not too many bands would do that. And everyone left the show happy, too. Isn't that what it's all about?

 

 
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Anonymous (December 1, 2002)

I saw these guys on last years warped tour and have heard other various things by them live, and I have to say the vocals don't impress me at all. It's too bad they can't run a filter through Deryck's voice live as well. They do put on a fun show though, and Flashlight Brown is pretty kickin as well. Must have been a fun show.

Anonymous (November 29, 2002)

good review. i like your style.

i really wish i couldve caught this when it came through philly. sum is pretty good live, and to see them for $10 would've been a steal.

-reeko

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

"These guys deserve respect for going on this tour in small clubs charging only 10 bucks for admission. They also were selling their album at the pre-party for 5 bucks, meaning 15 bucks would get the new album and a concert. Not too many bands would do that."

Not too many bands have made the money that Sum 41 has

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

I don't think anything sucks about only having one opening band. It's fuckin boring as shit when shows have like 5 opening bands and yuo couldn't give a shit about any of them but the headliner.

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

Totally, I see nothing wrong with local bands playing. Even if the headliner sucks, all the more better for the locals.

BostonMusicGuy (November 26, 2002)

"Its like them saying "ok who is good enough to open for us" and not like "oh hey local band want some extra exposure?". "yea not really at all actually. They are asking mostly bands that are local to the city they are playing in. I definitley think its cool that they had small bands play with them instead of taking some cheap ass pop punk band that they support like Not By Choice or something along with them for the whole tour. At least they are trying to support a local punk scene and getting the kids that normally wouldnt ever hear the openin gband because they arent on MTV a chance to get their name out there. If you ask me this is wuite possibly the coolest thing an "MTV punk" band has ever done.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

They've been on a club tour for over a month now actually. Down south and then the east coast before going to Detroit.

Just to clarify.

Get fucked

GregSka (November 26, 2002)

Flashlight Brown rules, I hope they make lots of $$$ and show up sum 41 at every show

Melvyl (November 26, 2002)

atleast they're not doing a big fucking arena tour, which they easly could do, comeon, give these guys a chance. Instead of playing with bands like anti-freeze they actually play with great bands.

evildeadalive (November 26, 2002)

I was in Toronto for 2 days like 4 years back (I live on the west coast so this is very rare for me), and I was lucky enough to be in town for a Planet Smashers and Flashlight (there was no 'Brown' back then) show. Amazing. Two great ska (and punk in the case of Flashlight) bands, and a whole lotta dancing!! Good times.

Oh yeah, Sum 41 suck...

drewcifer (November 26, 2002)

the first guy was right, "raining blood" is the last track on the album "reign in blood"

adam (November 26, 2002)

Flashlight Brown is great. Guelph punk rock represent!

adam

AstroVince (November 26, 2002)

You know, I used to hate 'em. But now, I would much rather see those idiots on MTV than any "garage rock" band.

waste_elite (November 26, 2002)

"I heard Sum 41's publicist cite the band as "The Beatles of punk rock"."

good god, that "publicist" deserves to be shot. apparently the man has never even heard a punk band.

"and 0.01 stars for Sum 41 for opening with a Slayer cover of "Raining Blood" at an outdoor festival a couple years ago."

it's reign in blood

WussEmoRock (November 26, 2002)

I really like that new song they have, "still waiting." I was always a pretty big fan of their first release, but all killer was just bad!

*****Wuss-Emo-Rock*****

oh yeah, good review

Dubar (November 26, 2002)

not to bash sum 41 (even though.. ugh) but.. I think its totally uncool of them to do these 2-band shows. Its like them saying "ok who is good enough to open for us" and not like "oh hey local band want some extra exposure?".

Just my 2 cents

Anonymous (November 26, 2002)

I feel sorry for Sum 41 as Flashlight would blow them off the fucking stage every night. Lucky for them they're not playing with them every night. Its like Bob Marley and the Wailers opening for Sly and the Family Stone.
So much potential for this Guelph/Toronto band. I've been a fan almost since the get go, and know they have the ability to go far. A solid live band that's never let me down, more than I can say for Sum 41.
On a side note, I heard Sum 41's publicist cite the band as "The Beatles of punk rock".
I'll let you guys discuss that disgracing statement...

*side note - the 4.99 stars are for Flashlight, and 0.01 stars for Sum 41 for opening with a Slayer cover of "Raining Blood" at an outdoor festival a couple years ago.

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