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System Of A Down

System Of A Down: Steal This Album!Steal This Album! (2002)
Sony Music Entertainment

Reviewer Rating: 4.5
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Let's get a few things cleared right away. System Of A Down isn't exactly a punk band (or at least maybe they aren't in some people's eyes). They cross the boundries between metal, thrash, folk, jazz and hard rock and make into one huge eclectic sound, if you try and box this band into a genre, they.
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Let's get a few things cleared right away. System Of A Down isn't exactly a punk band (or at least maybe they aren't in some people's eyes). They cross the boundries between metal, thrash, folk, jazz and hard rock and make into one huge eclectic sound, if you try and box this band into a genre, they will shock you and turn around and do something else. They are politically charged and say what they want, when they want and don't hide their feelings. They refuse to to censor what they say and if you don't like it, tough cookies. This band is always willing to try something new whether fans like it or not.

Hmm...maybe they are more punk than people give think. Or sure as hell more punk rock than Sum 41 or Simple Plan, thats for sure.

I wasn't a fan of System Of A Down until about 6 months ago. A friend of mine played a few songs from their first album and my response was "eh, it's alright". He then played some songs off "Toxicity", once again I was "eh, it's alright." I borrowed both cd's and sat down with an open mind and listened to both in entirety and I soon found myself hooked on this band. They have quickly become one of my personal favs. So, with this being said, I suggest that you all keep in an open mind to this band. You don't need to like them, but as long as you are open minded, I'll be happy. It took me a while to figure out what this band was about, and I don't expect everyone to fall in love with this band nor this album right away (or at all). With these things being said...

"Steal This Album!" is one of the best albums of the year, in fact, I think this is their best work and one of the best albums to come out in a very long time (which is saying a lot considering what's been released as of late)

The actual cover (or lack of) get's creative points for me. The actual disc has 5 differant designs, 4 done by the actual band members, each who designed the album. The other cover is a simple disc that looks like a blank CD you'd buy in a store with the words "System Of A Down" and "Steal This Album!" scribbled across the disc thus making it look like you actually burnt it. There is no booklet, if you want lyrics and credits you need to go to the back of the album case, type in a special address to access them.

The first song off this album is "Chic 'N' Stu" which is something that came out of left field, both lyrically and musically. I wasn't expecting this type of song to open. I was shocked by the song and this is always a good thing. Crazy song to say the least.

You are then taken on a roller coaster of a ride through this album going through the more radio friendly single "Innvervision" to the angry, anti-war "Boom!", the Knight Rider influenced (for lack of a better term)"I-E-A-I-A-I-O" to their slower songs at the end "Roulette" and "Streamline". It's quite a trip when you listen to the album in it's entirety, words can't even describe it.

The actual politically charged songs contain the topics of advertising, war, starvation, television, and the overall influence of politicians and the media.

What some of you may or may not know is that these are all outtakes from both their previous works. Despite this, the songs still feel refreshing. This album stands above not only any other metal record, but also most records released this year. SOAD has been quoted in saying that this is "the link" from Toxicity to their new album. All I can say is that their next record will be huge. And after this, I will have very high expectations about future works.

The things that may turn fans off is the complexity of the songs. While most bands are fairly straight forward, these guys are not. These songs are everywhere and will catch you by surprise, which may turn off people. The songs range in differant styles and go from loud to soft and then back again. The singing is another issue. Serj is quirky, witty and can be just as loud as any metal singer and be as soft as a pop singer. You either love it or hate in my view. Political issues are mentioned in almost every song and that too may turn people off. Like I said earlier, this band isn't one to be shy of their feelings. You don't need to like what he says, but at least respect the fact that they refuse to lay down and dumb down their lyrics.

But, overall, these leftovers definitely fill fans and may even bring some new fans on board.

The album is creative, simply put. Don't expect anything from this, because if you expect anything, you shall be dissapointed. Just sit back and go with the rollercoaster that is System Of A Down.

This album gets a well deserved 9.

 

 
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gordopunk (August 29, 2011)

Para todos os brasileiros fĆs de system of a down vo deixar a minah mensagem aque

system of a down a melhor banda de heavy metal do mundo

red_eyed420 (January 29, 2007)

system is for sure the first band that started it all for me.. they rule

Joe_The_Gurl_aka_Sam (June 3, 2005)

soad of a down..is deadly..this album was kinda political and dat..but hey its still good..cant wait for mezmerized to come out!!!..i think thats waht its called anywho...

Foaming_97 (March 5, 2005)

Ok quite simply System of a down kicks ass. I have spoken

toma (July 3, 2003)

hearing weird al sing chop suey was the best thing i've ever heard

1000_good_intentions (January 8, 2003)

This album is a good System of a Down album. I like how the songs cover a range of society's problems while staying on pace with their other albums.

However, this was not a good punk album and I have no idea why it is on this web site.

I do not care what is mainstream, "emo", ass or whatever new term people want to brand a group with. Just listen to the songs and the lyrics and if you agree with them, listen to the music.

Anonymous (December 27, 2002)

An album of System of a Down outtakes gets 4.5 stars?

Not to mention the rest of the utter crap that gets 3, 4, and 5 star ratings here. I'm glad I don't read the reviews on this site for anything other than amusement; I'd be really fucking pissed off if I bought an album based on most of these reviews.

And to the people discussing Rhapsody: Rhapsody is at least amusing, which is more than System of a Down has going for them.

clevelandhardcore (December 27, 2002)

System of a Down is the only nu-metal band worth listening to. Well, Chimaira is kick ass too. Anyways, the reviewer needs to have some higher standards for claiming a band is in his/her "favorite bands" list. Sounds like the reviewer is a TRL fan and likes whatever metal band is popular. I would hate to hear his opinion on the worst metal band on the planet 'disturbed. The Dillinger Escape Plan is my Favorite band. It took years for them to dethrone SOAD. Support hardcore... Nu-metal sucks. Who wants to see a band at an arena for $35? i don't. hard core shows are $10 and the bands actually show up at the merch booths to bullshit with people. enough... i don't actually want people to like h/c. god damn i hate seeing Disturbed shirts at Throwdown shows...

Anonymous (December 27, 2002)

Rhapsody sucks

Anonymous (December 27, 2002)

This album is crap.

Buy a Rhapsody album if you want to rock out to metal, don't fall into the whole nu-metal scene.

Anonymous (December 27, 2002)

i just wanted to congratulate the person who wrote this post that i have pasted below.
maybe im just a lamer but it seriously made me laugh my ass off for a while.
System Of A Down - Steal This Album!
Posted by Anonymous on 2002-12-20 20:01:02
My Score:
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I want to rip the beard off the vocalist.

i dont exactly like this band but im not rating them on that. ive heard the CD at my mates place its actually not bad, personally its not my type but it is good for the ppl who like it and they have made it how they wanted. 8/10

Anonymous (December 26, 2002)

i dunno if anybody else has said this or not, cuz i was too lazy to read all of the reviews. it's called steal this album because someone who's a big fan of theirs was in the studio while they were working on toxicity and released all of these onto kazaa or whatever prematurely. it's a joke, it's called steal this album because it had already been stolen before it was even in production.

evildeadalive (December 26, 2002)

Ha, someone stuck up for me... Yeah, as for being a computer geek, I barely know how to turn this fucken thing on.
And yeah I realize my point never really came out til the end, but I was kinda trying to make it, and piss people off at the same time, knowwhatimsayin?

Anonymous (December 26, 2002)

I don't get why people get all up in arms when a band that is not categorically "Punk Rock" gets a review in the site. As a lover of all music, I welcome the occasional Metal/Hip-Hop/Country western review...Ok, maybe not country western, but you get the point.

Anonymous (December 26, 2002)

Evildeadalive, arguing over this is stupid, but your point didn't really seem to come out to the end.

Anonymous (December 26, 2002)

to the guy who posted this
System Of A Down - Steal This Album!
Posted by Anonymous on 2002-12-25 14:52:27
My Score:
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EVILDEADALIVE = COMP GeeK STOP GOING TO THIS SITE AND COMMENTING, GET A LIFE

ok
1. u r a fuckhead
2. y the hell would u go and write sumthing like he is a computer geek and get a life when u r actually using one right now to write that comment. i think u r a lamer who needs to shut his mouth and learn how to not look like a wanker with ur stupid comments.

evildeadalive (December 26, 2002)

Wow, I thought I'd get a GUK comment way sooner. Basically, what I am saying is labels are shit. No one who actually appreciates music gives a shit about labels. They are for the masses of sheep who haven't got a clue. There are way more people who think they Get Up Kids are emo, than there are who say they are not. Therefore they are emo. Do I think they are emo personally? Not really, but I don't fucking care what they are labeled as. I like music. Not categories. Does that make any sense?... Maybe... What I am saying is people who want labels can decide what's what. Ok, bye.

Anonymous (December 26, 2002)

to the guy who said guk are emo just cause everyone says so, no their NOT emo anymore, and everyone thinks bush is a good pres., does that make it true?

Anonymous (December 25, 2002)

Can't wait till this band calls it quits.

-JAM

evildeadalive (December 25, 2002)

haha, and a merry festivus to you too!

Anonymous (December 25, 2002)

Evildeadalive = comp geek stop going to this site and commenting, get a life

Anonymous (December 25, 2002)

nu-annoyingcrap, I like that, the scores for that

evildeadalive (December 24, 2002)

that's kinda what i was saying too... peace?

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

hehe. sorry i called you an ass. that argument was just dumb. soad is whatever you think they are. and besides, labels suck anyways. we should know that with the hundred different labels in punk nowadays.

evildeadalive (December 24, 2002)

dude, i was talking about the 98 degrees comment. obviosly i did not go and pick up a teen beat, or go to boybandnews.org, i saw interviews with them on tv. as for system of a down, fine, they are not nu-metal. you win. they've got their on genre, nu-annoyingcrap. how's that?

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

yea, now you're definitely an ass. you take what tv tells you and digest it.

evildeadalive (December 24, 2002)

I didn't read it, it was just something I saw on tv.

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

I've never heard any real publications say SOAD was Nu-metal and I've read 3 or 4 interviews with them. Besides, these magical people who called them Nu-metal were obviously wrong and just because they said SOAD was, doesn't make there opinion correct! that's all there is to it. If it doesn't sound like Nu-metal, then it's not Nu-metal. That's how I judge it, not by what some dipshit tells me what it is.

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

You read an interview with 98 degrees? Wow...

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

did you know that the guitarist in this band has a 3 inch penis!? bet ya cud figure out how i know that.......

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

What does it matter if a band is played on mtv? So what if they were small time before someone at mtv realized their greatness and decided to play some of their videoes on there? If punk is an attitude then SOAD definitely punk. I'm not supporting everything they say or do (like saving the environment and going against science) but they're still a really good band in my mind. I think you people should lighten up a bit and try to be positive towards some band that actually worked hard and somehow made it to become famous. For years before they got signed onto a big record label they were working hard so they could get heard by everyone someday.

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

I really like this band and I think they have a real good sound going for them. But they shouldn't really be on this site because they aren't really punk except some parts of some of their songs sound a bit like they should be one here. I'd say this album isn't as good as the first two but still is really good. I don't freak out about if their album name is original at all because if the music is good why not like it? And just to clear the issue about where they got the name from Serj said himself that they took it from that book called steal this book. I really like this band and I figure they have a lot of talent and you people should give them a chance. What if people didn't give the Ramones a chance? What would've happened to punk then. I admit they're pretty far off of what people would classify as punk now but they were the base of it and if wasn't for them it probably would've took a lot longer time for this genre to get developed into what it is now. That's all I have to say.

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

oh and every fucking SOAD fan: STOP TELLING US TO BE OPEN MINDED ABOUT IT IF WE DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO IT STOP FORCING YOUR SHITTY MUSIC TASTES ON THE REST OF US....sorry but that needed to be in CAPS and for godsakes I can talk about a dog and a cat and call myself political and being "political" does not make you intellegent just look at any High School Debate Club (mostly in Price Utah) have a good day. R.

Anonymous (December 24, 2002)

"You don't need to like what he says, but at least respect the fact that they refuse to lay down and dumb down their lyrics."

have you listened to the lyrics to fucking "war" song where he's like "war war fuck the system fuck the system war war fuck the system fuck the system" those are hella dumbed down..and not to mention "chop suey!" and the fact that he cant sing and is barely understandable when he does. and the music is fucking lameass and they use Ibanez guitars which are the worst...i wonder when bands are going to tell young people to get involved instead of crying about the world...

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

i don't like this band. at all.

evildeadalive (December 23, 2002)

Ok, honestly, I really do not care. The fact of the matter is that when the term nu-metal was originally coined, SOAD was one of the bands the term was used for. If you think they have progressed from this title, fine. Or maybe the other bands this term is now given to have just gotten worse... Whatever, who really cares. On a sidenote, obviously I am not a complete idiot, and can recognize the fact soad is clearly not as bad as the likes of Drowning Pool and Disturbed.

Oh yeah, and I have seen interviews with 98 degrees where they adamantly deny they are a boy band. They claim that they are on Motown, so they are all about the singing, and not so much about being pretty boys... blah, blah blah, who the fuck cares?

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

Actually, Papa Roach is way older than SOAD. SOAD is still good band, Papa Roach has sucked since they got to a major. And SOAD kinda was in the same "scene" as other nu-metal bands back in the day. All the bands sounded different those days, but they were in the similar style still. Nowadays it“s just bunch of shitty bands playing two-note riffs and shouting something stupid.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

they got the title of the album from the book steal this book by abby hoffman

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

evildeadalive-you're still an ass. you listened to soad's s/t? good for you. if you don't like them, fine. i've got no problem with that. but labeling them nu-metal is ridiculous. i don't know if you know the history of the band but they've been around WAY before any of these shit nu-metal bands started popping up in the last few years. and nu-metal bands all sound alike. rappers/dj's/the "woe is me" lyrics. can you honestly say soad sounds anything like limp bizkit or papa roach or saliva or linkin park? hell no. even if you hate the band, it's still hard to argue that they're part of the dying (thank god) nu-metal trend. nope, you're still an ignorant asswipe.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

i'm sure soad will listen and change the album title now. asswipe.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

get your own fuckin album title and quit stealing them from good bands...assholes...

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

If Nu-Metal is the Hair Metal of our day, then SOAD would probably be the modern-day Guns 'n' Roses.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

I think 98 degrees would say they're a boy band. There is no denying that they are. Now, if you asked Drowning pool or the 500 other bands that sound alike and act alike on stage then you'd probably get the same answer from a lot of them. We're Nu-metal or hard rock (which is the "in denial" term for nu-metal). The fact is, SOAD sounds very little like anything nu-metal. Nu-metal has the same vocals effects, guitar style, and on stage movements. The bass player bob or holding the bass straight up like the tool from korn. It's basically frat boys who can play guitar by copying limp bizkit and creed and using the same rythms and generic leads. Soft verse, loud "exploding" Chorus, A DJ, someone who raps, adidas style cloths...that's Nu-metal. It's 80s hair music for a new decade. Sytem of a down neither sounds like or acts like any of these bands. POD and Mudvayne, that's Nu-Metal!

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

labels are stupid. All you need is Rock, Pop, R&B, Country, Rap, Jazz, Classical.

evildeadalive (December 23, 2002)

oh, and if you asked 98 degrees fans if they were a boy band, they'd laugh in my face too. doesn't stop it from being true.

evildeadalive (December 23, 2002)

dude who called me an ass - i have heard every soad album many, many times, plus quite a few unreleased songs, many, many times. a few of my friends are obsessed with this band. i'm sorry, but they are nu metal. have a nice day.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

Its pretty good I reckon. I can't believe so many people have made stupid comments about the cover and album title. Well I guess everyone has far to much time on there hands.

-bemused-

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

like a million before have already said... "steal this" just isn't a very original album title, regardless of it's "deeper message" or whatever...

the cover? alkalines was better because they wanted it to look like a mix tape likle you would give to your best friend or someone you liked and not like all the burned cds in yr cd wallet...

AND to top it off, system just aren't that great... yes, they can be interesting... i think their political views are aimed at thick skulled metal kids though...

you want politics? try the broadways or a million other political punk bands...

you want weird? try mr. bungle... seriously... "disco volante" owns... the dude from system will NEVER compare to patton...

oh and who HASN'T heard of the suicide machines?

-syr667

rayjay (December 23, 2002)

said it before, and i'll say it again - real punk is not a musical style, it's an attitude. soad have it. the coup have it. hendrix had it.

so review on, people, review whatever you think punk is. i'll read it all.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

Dont the suicide machines have a steal this record album...how unoriginal.

Anonymous (December 23, 2002)

To the people that listen to the Coup, Thank you. I thought this site was becoming a site for just cheesy metal and poppy punk music. Seriously, enough about fake metal bands like System of a Down and talk about real music, like The Coup. They have insanely intelligent flows that even the smart punk bands could never come up with. "Punk" bands like bad religion, nofx, anti-flag, and Pennywise who talk about the government really don't have any clue what they are talking about. They are the privilaged who see wrongdoings, but have never actually experienced them. If you think you are politically active, then listen to some good music, listen to bands like The Coup and Public Enemy and then actually go and do something in your community.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

They called this after the book, and is kind of tongue-in-cheek because these songs were leaked onto the net by an intern at the studio and they went back to rerecord them quickly so they didn't sound shitty...hence the name.

People calling this nu-metal haven't listened to this album...they probably should.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

Another person who listens to The Coup! The song "get up" with Dead Prez is fucking awesome. "honestly i'm against this government, i dont have to cover it up thats what i meant".

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

evildeadalive-you're an ass. if you asked soad fans if soad was nu-metal, they would just laugh in your face. nu-metal is fucking fad, a trend. bands that are nu-metal don't last long and are constantly being dumped on these days. all except for bands like soad-one of the few mainstream bands actually worth listening to. my guess is you probably haven't listend to their self titled record at all, then you probably wouldn't call them nu-metal.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

First of all, they're not Nu-metal. Sorry shithead. Second, I guess if the rest of the world says something it must be true. That is absolutely fucking stupid. We should obviously beleive you and your fucked logic.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

System of a Down is a great fucking band. Or at least I think so. Regardless of how much airplay they get. It's music with FEELING. That's what matters.
You guys forgot another "Steal This Album." The Coup released a full length called "Steal This Album" before they put out "Party Music." Two stellar albums, I must say.

evildeadalive (December 22, 2002)

that should have read TGUK... oops

evildeadalive (December 22, 2002)

This was one of the first bands that was labeled nu-metal actually. Just because you guys like them, and think because they are political they are punk, does not change what they are. Nu-fucking metal. And for the record, yes the Get Up Kids are emo, and yes 98 Degrees are a fucking boy band. Labels, are nothing more than categories for the masses to lump bands into. The majority of the world thinks TGOK are emo, so you are outnumbered. That's what they will always be lumped into so get over it. Same goes with SOAD, do you honestly think all the fucking Slipknot loving date rapers out there don't think SOAD are nu-metal? Just because a few punks say they're not, doesn't change the fucking facts.
That is all.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

This isn't Nu-metal you fucks. Sure it's not totally real metal, but it sure as fuck isn't Nu-metal.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

there are only about 15 nonpunk mainstream acts i listen to and this is definately one of them(radiohead,311,sublime,rhcp,weezer). great band. havent heard the new album yet, but i liked the first one bette than toxicity which got played out (especially due to radio) pretty fast. suite-pee and war. how can u not like those songs? i'm sure this album is probably pretty good.
ps. yes, the song science is absolutely horrible. i skipped it after the first time i read the lyrics. uhhhh...oh yea thats ong about a groupie on heroin sux too. and pogo. yea toxicity definately wasnt as good as the first one the more it think about it.
cawknocker

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

mrverydrunk-the reason soad is on this website is because some, no, many people believe soad is much more punk than synthetic, artifical mtv-pop bands like simple plan, blink, and good charlotte. why are they reviewed on this website? why is there an adrew k review?

M4CH1N3 (December 22, 2002)

metal cds burn quite well

rayjay (December 22, 2002)

funny, i would have thought hatebreed would be reviewed an awful lot on this site.

you ignorant fuck.

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

These guys had a massive fan following before they got signed so fuck the haters and it's hatebreed a hardcore punk band on victory

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

to the guy spaces down zero down was a great band but never had time to reach the greatness. RIP JIM

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

why do people always hate new things this band it the most fresh and orignal thing since primus. I like this band cause there not recycled crap repackaged in puke. Oh and i'm sick oh gutter punk bands these bands have no talent ( just had to say it well it was on my mind )I wouldn't call this punk music but it's a lot closer to it then blink or sum or simple plan

soulbleed (December 22, 2002)

If you go on allmusic.com and read the review for this album, you probably won't get the same reaction I got. It states that basically this album isn't a collection of leftovers from Toxicity, which it really is. I had the untitled advance of this album back in January of 2002, and they changed nothing from those recordings. These were just the songs that sounded too much like every other track on Toxicity, which really makes you wonder why they ruled out these tracks considering all the songs on both records sound like one contorted piece of shit release of fart into a microphone.

MrVeryDrunk (December 22, 2002)

I thought this was a punk website. I can understand reviewing Emo and even power pop but, nu metal. Give me a fucking break. WE MIGHT AS WELL START REVIEWING SLIPKNOT, KORN, HATEBREED ETC. I don't hate System of a Down. They just do not belong on this fucking website. Or maybe I don't belong on this fucking website. Whatever.

evildeadalive (December 22, 2002)

'its one thing to listen to soad and just flat out not like it. its another to listen to chop suey! and aerials and then call soad utter crap.'

i'm not totally sure what you are trying to say there... are you trying to tell me aerials is not the shittiest piece of shit song that was ever shit out of a shitty ass shit band's ass?

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

"eating seeds as a pastime activity"

yeah, great lyrics! ...

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

worst band ever. nu metal is the worst thing since disco. sweet jesus this is crap

-reeko

Anonymous (December 22, 2002)

system of a down is fucking horrible, all it is is some fucking whinner just yelling playing to some really bland metal music call me closed minded but this shouldnt even be called music,

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

sorry dontbesodigital. you asked that people keep an open mind when listening to this band but its quite apparent a lot of people can't get past the fact that these guys are in the mainstream or on mtv to see that they are a great band. its one thing to listen to soad and just flat out not like it. its another to listen to chop suey! and aerials and then call soad utter crap. these guys are great and this is one of the best albums of the year.

DontBeSoDigital (December 21, 2002)

Serj has been quoted in saying that they took the name from "Steal This Book".

rayjay (December 21, 2002)

yes, the trio thing was supposed to be a mixtape. there's a big difference, so the tool who accused soad of stealing from the trio, maybe you should accuse the trio of stealing from every other emo-punk band out there.

not that that's a bad thing, the trio still rock. but if it wasn't for plagarism... you know the speech.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

I don't think System of a down was just being "cute" with that album title. I think their seriously encouraging people to steal the album. that would explain the shit packaging. who would be expected to pay 18 bucks for a cd that looks like something their friend copied for them?

JimmyArndt (December 21, 2002)

alkaline trio's s/t was not like this at all, it was a tape on the cover. not a burned cd. similiar, yes, but very much different.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

actually they called the record "Steal This Album" because kids were stealing these songs from the internet hence the name and the cd looking like a burned cd. It has nothing to do wit shitty bands like the Suicide Machines or Zero Down.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

I take two points of view on this topic of name taking- we really have no idea what inspired SOAD to make this their album title.

It is quite possible that they are just being totally un-original, and didn't think to see if anyone else had used this sort of title.

More likely, and this is my guess, that they were inspired by the album title they had seen bands use before them. I agree it's not original, but maybe they intended it to remind us of those bands that have used it in the past.

I don't approve, and I think they could be more original. But I don't think they did it because, A, they couldn't think of a title, or B, they just liked the title when they saw it on other albums. This is completely unfair to the band.

So here's my main point- it really doesn't matter what the name is. I don't really buy an album for it's name, I buy it because of the music. So I don't like SOAD that much, but for someone who does, they buy it because of the music.

So maybe we could stop talking about the freakin album title already.

Sam

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

Yeah cause they have no connection with the outside world. The suicide machines were on a major label, it's not at all far fetched to assume SOAD knows who they are. Just because they're a mainstream band means almost nothing for your arguement, we're not talking about clueless popstars. I've read interviews with SOAD talking about underground music and promoting it. Ok you got me, they may have not heard of the explosion. But the book they probably have on top of the suicide machines and whatever else has been named that, it still seems lame to me.

evildeadalive (December 21, 2002)

For the hundedth time idiot, they did not take the album title from those bands. Do you actually think they have even heard the Suicide Machines or the Explosion before? I highly doubt it. If anything they stole it from the book. At least get your critisisms straight for fucks sake.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

It's the new KORN.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

Yeah, I feel let down, that's what it is...or maybe I just feel that it's uncreative and unoriginal, which it is. If you really feel that copying well know ideas from other bands and passing it off as your own, you've obviously got shit for brains.

recordings (December 21, 2002)

to the annonymous guy who directed comments towards me:

if you feel like youve been let down or cheated when a band doesnt come up with some quirky, fun, or cool name for their latest album, you seriously need to re-evaluate your priorities.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

Science is the most important thing we have.

To discover that the Universe is some 8 to 15 billion years and not 6 to 12 thousand years old improves our appreciation of its sweep and grandeur; to entertain the notion that we are a particularly complex arrangement of atoms, and not some breath of divinity, at the very least enhances our respect for atoms; to discover, as now seems probable, that our planet is one of billions of other worlds in the Milky Way Galaxy and that our galaxy is one of billions more, majestically expands the arena of what is possible; to find that our ancestors were also the ancestors of apes ties us to the rest of life and makes possible important - if occaisionally rueful - reflections on human nature.

Plainly there is no way back. Like it or not, we are stuck with science. We had better make the best of it. When we finally come to terms with it and fully recognize its beauty and its power, we will find, in spiritual as well as in practical matters, that we have made a bargain strongly in our favor.

But superstition and pseudoscience keep getting in the way, distracting all the "Buckleys" among us, providing easy answers, dodging skeptical scrutiny, casually presing our awe buttons and cheapening the experience, making us routine and comfortable practitioners as well as victims of credulity. Yes, the world would be a more intersting place if there were UFOs luking in the deep waters off Bermuda and eating ships and planes, or if dead people could take control of our hands and write us messages. It would be fascinating if adolescents were able to make telephone handsets rocket off their cradles just by thinking at them, or if our dreams could, more often than can be explained by chance and our knowledge of the world, accurately foretell the future.

These are all instances of pseudoscience. They purport to use the methods and findings of science, while in fact they are faithless to its nature - often because they are based on insufficient eveidence or because they ignore clues that point the other way. They ripple with gullibility. With the uninformed cooperation (and often the cynical connivance) of newspapers, magazines, book publishers, radio, television, movie producers, and the like, such ideas are easily and widely available. Far more difficlut to come upon, as I was reminded by my encounter with Mr. "Buckley," are the alternative, more challenging and even more dazzling findings of science.

Trust a witness in all matters in which neither his self-interest, his passions, his prejudices, nor the love of the marvelous is strongly concerned. When they are involved, require corroborative evidence in exact proportion to the contravention of probablity by the thing testified.
Thomas Henry Huxley (1825-1895)

The human understanding is no dry light, but receives infusion from the will and affections; whence proceed sciences which may be called "sciences as one would." For what a man had rather were true he more readily believes. Therefore he rejects difficult things from impatience of research; sober things, because they narrow hope; the deeper things of nature, from superstition; the light of experience, from arrogance and pride; things not comonly believed, out of deference to the opinion of the vulgar. Numberless in short are the ways, and sometimes imperceptible, in which the affections color and infect the understanding.
Francis Bacon, Novum Organon (1620)

Men dare not avow, even to their own hearts, the doubts which they entertain on such subjects. They make a merit of implicit faith; and disguise to themselves their real infidelity, by the strongest asseverations and the most positive bigotry.
David Hume

Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in socity. When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commision of every other crime.
Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge; it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.
Charles Darwin The Descent of Man (1871)

I assert most unhesitatingly, that the religion of the South is a mere covering for the most horrid crimes - a justifier of the most appalling barbarity, a sanctifier of the most hateful frauds, and a dark shelter under which the darkest, foulest, grossest and most infernal deeds of slaveholders find the strongest protection. Were I again reduced to the chains of slavery, next to that enslavement, I should regard being the slave of a religious master the greatest calamity that could befall me . . . I . . . hate the corrupt, slaveholding, women-whipping, cradle-plundering, partial and hypcritical Christianity of this land.
Frederick Douglass

You dispute, you quarrel, you fight for that which is uncertain, that of which you doubt. O men! Is this not folly? . . . We must trace a line of distinction between those that are capable of verification, and those that are not, and separate by an inviolable barrier the world of fantastical beings from the world of realities; that is to say, all civil effect must be taken away from theological and religious opinions.
C. F. Volney Ruins (1791)

Science and its philosophical corollaries, were perhaps the most important intellectual force shaping the destiny of eighteenth-century America . . . Franklin was only one of a number of forward-looking colonists who recognized the kinship of scientific method and democratic procedure. Free inquiry, free exchange of information, optimism, self-criticism, pragmatism, objectivity - all these ingredients of the coming republic were already active in the republic of science that flourished in the eighteenth century.
American historian Clinton Rossiter

From the conclusion of this [Revolutionary] war we shall be going downhill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, 'til our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion."
Thomas Jefferson

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

good call guy below me

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

Let's all admit one thing, though:
SOAD, Suicide Machiens and others were being cute when they titled their albums "steal This..."
The Explosion were being forced to record an album they didn't want to for Revelation due to contract issues from a previous band, so they REALLY did want people to steal the album. It had nothing to do with it being a cute name. It was their tiny revenge.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

word

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

This is to the tool far down claiming people are vultures for complaining about bands using the same name over and over. Lack of originality, especially in something like an album title, is pretty pathetic. With so many words and ideas they could use, ripping off an very novelty title is weak. I figure if a band can put enough effort into writing and releasing an entire album, the least they could do is make up a good title for it.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

Hey Bostonmusicguy, that's one good reason the radio and Mtv suck. Maybe you should stop supporting them? Although, I know you like most of the crap they play on there...well atleast enough to get you to listen to it so much you get sick of hearing songs you like.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

There was a "Steal This Movie" before SOAD, Suicide Machines, and The Explosion so you gotta accuse them all of stealing. Anyways, this band is fucking awesome, the only good thing to come out of modern rock and nu-metal or whatever the hell they call that crap that comes on the radio. Actually i havent listened to the radio (other than NPR) for close to 2 years but i doubt that there is anything good on now. And i havent watched MTV in almost as long (what a relief). I liked the song science, i dont think they were completely ripping on science, that would just be stupid. There's no way you can deny science has made major advancements in medicine, transportation, entertainment, and almost every other aspect of life but i think they were saying that it has also made lots of negative "advancements" (if you can call them that) as well.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

This is to that guy who didnt like SOAD's song "Science"...The "spirit" they are refering to doesnt have to be God. And basically the song is about how science is corrupting the world.

Anonymous (December 21, 2002)

they are the best mainstream can offer, if you like mainstream that is
the[]muffin[]girl

waste_elite (December 21, 2002)

system of a down stands head and shoulders above the modern rock crowd.

as far as i'm concered, this is the best the mainstream has to offer.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

I have always liked System of a Down. There first full length was incredible and I still pop it in every now and then. Toxicity was great for a while but I havent touched it in months because I have heard every single song off of it about a million times. Between MTV, the radio and the supposed "rock fans" in my dorm I cant stand hearing "Toxicity" or "Chop Suey" or "Aerials" ever again. I havent heard this one yet but Im sure its the same thing that happened on Toxicity... boring after a while.-BostonMusicGuy

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

The drummer of Dave Matthews is amazing, and uses all of his set.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

I hate the song they wrote, "Science." It's a song off Toxicity that basically rips on science, saying that "spirit" (God) runs through everything. If it wasn't for science, they wouldn't have the following things:

(1) electric guitars
(2) multi-platinum CD's
and (3) huge bank accounts

Terrible song from a good band.

Also the drummer pisses me off because he has this ridiculously huge set (think the drummer from Dave Matthews) and he uses none of it.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

whoa dude, pass the bong. metallica just released a new album!

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

Look, I'll admit that this is more appealing than some of the stupid hair banging metal bangds out there, but hey, come on- they are just antoher political and spiritual band that happened to hit it big. I don't find anything special about SOAD. Tons of other bands send the same message in their songs, but the fact that this band has a unique look is probably what got them where they are. It's overrated, although I admit that it grows on me. But hey- I don't think it's anything completely new.

punky (December 20, 2002)

This band is still much better than any drive-thru or vagrant band.

recordings (December 20, 2002)

yes, the sucide machines released a *steal this* album.

yes, the explosion released a *steal this* album.

yea, the *steal this* book was published.

yes, SOAD released a *steal this* album.

now. the question is. who the fuck gives a shit? if you want to argue about repetative album names, lets talk about self titled records for christs sake. gee, how many times has that been ripped off? theres no pleasing you vultures.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

"Most Overrated band I've ever heard"

Overrated, indeed. But not like Andrew W.K.. He's a fucking idiot who makes shitty hair metal. Its like they want it to be the 80s again!

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

Alkaline Trio also had an ablum cover like this too for their singles and B-side collection. SOAD isn't the first to think of it.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

I want to rip the beard off the vocalist.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

Whoohoo a new System of a Down album, more MTV play! I can't go wait to buy an XXXXL System of a Down shirt at Goth Topic. Most Overrated band I've ever heard

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

That last comment makes little to no sense.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

Horrid band. Alot of the songs sound the same and it gets boring. I'll end on a positive note though. The music,or beats sound good.

Sara(no h)

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

They didn' copy STEAL THIS ALBUM of the Suicide Machines...Theres A really good book out thier called "STEAL THIS BOOK". Thats where both of these bands got the album name from

evildeadalive (December 20, 2002)

Ok, nobody hates SOAD as much as me, but seriously, does anyone actually believe these guys have even heard of the Suicide Machines? Probably not.

Hamish (December 20, 2002)

My roommate plays these guys non-stop. They grew on me, not a band I'm nuts about (he's played them WAY too many times), but I don't mind listening to them and they're better than pretty much everything else on the radio and mtv.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

sounds like the title of Suicide machines "steal this record"...not very creative

punkcorekid (December 20, 2002)

Sublime also had a cover like this.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

At first I really hated it, but after a while the songs grew on me. Funny how it is called steal this album and costs $16.99... The cover is not creative at all. Zero Down had the same design last year. And there have been countless albums called "Steal This Album"

chad (December 20, 2002)

good review.

yellowtrash (December 20, 2002)

One minus: Fat Goth Chicks. HAHAHAHA Flame on!

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

This sounds exactly like it what it is: B-sides from the Toxicity sessions. Not bad, not good, just okay.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

Sytem is better and much more original than most garbage metal these days. Atleast it isn't typical cheese-metal with shit lyrics about hating everyone/death or nothing.

Anonymous (December 20, 2002)

This band isnt at all creative. Fuck. Its all been done before. This is just trash metal, why is it on here?

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