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Kottonmouth Kings / Zebrahead / Riddlin' Kids

Kottonmouth Kings / Zebrahead / Riddlin' Kids: live in Seattlelive in Seattle (2003)
EMI Group

Reviewer Rating: 2


Contributed by: FatTonyFatTony
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As I read recent reviews of live shows, I notice that everyone seems to agree on one thing, a first for this site. That is that they're sick of the same five shows getting reviewed over and over again. So, with that, I decided to submit this, a review I knew nobody else would submit on this site. .


As I read recent reviews of live shows, I notice that everyone seems to agree on one thing, a first for this site. That is that they're sick of the same five shows getting reviewed over and over again. So, with that, I decided to submit this, a review I knew nobody else would submit on this site.

Besides, the Riddlin' Kids were there, so it was totally punk. Right?

Didn't think so, but it was worth a shot.

This was my first chance to see a show at the newly established Northgate Theater. As I entered the venue, two things ran across my mind. The first was how huge the place was compared to the Showbox or the Graceland. The second was how few people were there. The venue has a total capacity of about 2400 people, and there couldn't have been more than 500, tops, to give you an idea of how empty it was.

First up was everyone's favorite, the Riddlin' Kids. I'd been forced to suffer through this band before in order to see another of my favorite bands, so at least I knew what I was getting into. They plowed through their 30 minute set of generic pop-punk tunes with a moderate amount of energy. The crowd wasn't really into them though, except maybe a few people here and there. The highlight of their set: they didn't play their abysmal cover of REM's "End of the World As We Know It." Thanks guys.

Next up, the real reason I was at the show...ZEBRAHEAD. Tonight was the fifth time seeing them. This is one of my favorite bands in the world and one of the most entertaining bands I've seen live. Tonight was no different. They wasted no time getting the crowd riled up. They played many of the fan favorites and even a couple songs they don't usually play live, namely "What's Goin' On." They also treated us to a new song called "The Setup" and mentioned that their new album will be out on July 15, for anyone that might care. From what I've heard, the new album will be significantly harder than Playmate of the Year. Most memorable moment of the set: The lead singer demonstrating that only four chords are required to write a hit pop song, followed by snippets of Blink 182's "What's My Age Again," All American Rejects' "Swing Swing," Green Day's "When I Come Around," and one other song I didn't identify, all strung together in a nice, neat medley. Genius!

Kottonmouth Kings, like the Riddlin' Kids, are another of those bands that I saw against my will. And, like the Riddlin' Kids, the other time I saw them I was less than impressed. After a 30 minute wait between sets, Kottonmouth Kings took the stage...sort of. Note to anyone out there that's in a band: don't play more than one minute of intro music before you take the stage. Also, don't shine any bright lights into the audience...you never know who you may be blinding...like ME, asshole! Kottonmouth made us listen to about 7 minutes of intro music before they finally came out. But when they came out, the crowd lit up (both emotionally and literally) as the band launched right into "Suburban Life," the only song of theirs I can readily identify. While I'm not a fan of the band or their music, I have to give them credit for the amount of effort they put into their stage show. But a word of advice: lose the guy that does "the robot" and smokes pot the whole time...he's kind of boring. After about 15 minutes of their set, I started to develop a headache, possibly because of the music, so I decided to leave. Having seen them before, I don't really think I missed much, and they got a total set time of an hour and a half. There was no way I was going to make it through that much of the Kottonmouth Kings. There's only so much I can take.

The breakdown of the entire show:

    Riddlin' Kids - 1/10 - Only because I can't give them a zero. I suppose they earned a point for not playing the REM cover.

    Zebrahead - 10/10 - One of the few bands I can rely on to fully entertain delivers yet again. I wish they were headlining. I would have liked to see them play for longer and with better bands. If they'd headlined, it would have likely decreased the $20 ticket price as well as reducing the number of dumb meathead jocks at the show. One can only dream, I guess.

    Kottonmouth Kings - 2/10 - Energetic, but bland music is still bland music, regardless of how much effort is put into it, and there's only so much punishment one person can take.
Overall, the show was pretty mediocre, aside from Zebrahead's set. I would suggest skipping this tour and catching Zebrahead the next time they make it to your area, since the tickets will be much cheaper and there's at least a chance for some better support bands.

Total score: 4/10.

 


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Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not respon sible for them in any way. Seriously.
thatswack (January 7, 2005)

Oh gosh, Kottonmouth Kings don't even deserve a half star, they try way to hard, i guess............to suck.

Anonymous (May 9, 2003)

This score is for Kottonmouth Kings--I saw their video a couple years ago on MTV and decided I hated this band more than any other.

-Pyschobillywerecat

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

and for saying age has nothing to do with anything in one of your responses,(scroll down and check for yourself) you sure didnt hesitate to guess mine to belittle my opinion.

who needs to grow up now?

Anonymous (May 7, 2003)

alright, enough this is lame. i'm 22 not 15, not that it matters. yes art is objective, i'm a fucking art minor, but to say amber is not good, thats just being ignorant. even people who hate 311 like that song. its not like a goddamn creed song or something.the harmonies are tight, and i dont' see whats cheesey about the lyrics, it not like coheed and cambria talking about aliens and shit. so what band is good according to you, and your witty and mature superior tastes? please type an atypical non-fuck you response

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

i read your response and stopped right about at 'i don't have a band, but if i did...'. yea . fuckin right. so shut the fuck up. i love how people shit all over someone elses art when they are creating none of their own and have no musical ability, but reserve the right to shit on someone elses success as songwriters. i mean i think coheed is a boring band, but i'm not gonna shit on them, cuz alot of people like them. fine. my opinion is my own, im not gonna berate someone for having their own.

Oh look, another typical "fuck you" response from a 15 year old on this board. Surprise, surprise...

What makes you think I can't play instruments even if I'm not in a band?

It's called ART. People can shit on art all they want because IT'S OBJECTIVE. Art is SUPPOSED TO BE CRITICIZED.

Grow up.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

i read your response and stopped right about at 'i don't have a band, but if i did...'. yea . fuckin right. so shut the fuck up. i love how people shit all over someone elses art when they are creating none of their own and have no musical ability, but reserve the right to shit on someone elses success as songwriters. i mean i think coheed is a boring band, but i'm not gonna shit on them, cuz alot of people like them. fine. my opinion is my own, im not gonna berate someone for having their own.

to the guy below me, u should listen to from chaos, its better than soundsystem and transistor. i wasnt saying i dislike those albums, but they are their weakest efforts, despite some real solid songs (come original, flowing, beautiful disaster, prisoner, etc.)

Kurt_F (May 6, 2003)

I think "Soundsystem" was great. Flowing is one of my favorite songs by them ever. "Transistor" takes a while to get used to, but eventually you start to notice the goodness in songs like "Stealing Happy Hours" and "Prisoner"...never heard that much of "From Chaos"

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

"Isn't every band's live show the same everywhere? Anytime I see a member of a "badass punk band" jump off the bass drum, I laugh. Anytime I see a guitarist throw their guitar around their back, I laugh. Anytime I see a band who jumps at the same time at the begining of a song, I laugh their too. "

So i guess saying the SAME EXACT THING TO EVERY CROWD FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS means nothing, right?

311 may play their instruments well, but they say the same exact thing to every crowd and practically play the same songs every night.

I'd rather see a guy jump off the stage than some guy repeating the same lines he did the last time he came around.

Anonymous (May 6, 2003)

dude, their music has changed. sometimes for the worse granted, i'll admit, soundsystem and transistor are pretty bad but have their moments. but cmon, 'amber'? that song is amazing. yea they have some cheesy songs im not saying their infallible, but there are many more bands out there that deserve to be shit on. lets hear what your band has written and acomplished. lets see u crank out 'amber' when you're 30 fucking years old. look at bad religeon, they made the same album like 10 times and arent even good and everyone sucks their dicks. 311 at least have an amazing drummer and bassist and mix up rap , reggae etc. fuck you.

Ah yes, the typical "fuck you" response. What else would I get from people on this board?

I don't have a band, but if I did have a band, I sure as fuck wouldn't beat a dead horse for the past 6 years.

And I wouldn't want to crank out "Amber" when I was 30, because I'd be too emabaressed. From Chaos was a fucking waste of money. And what does age have to do with anything? Nothing. Exactly.

They're albums have changed? Yeah, sure. Ok. Keep living in your fantasy world, the only stand out album they have is Transistor, and that album was too much filler.

Same formula for each album aside from that. Rap/rock throw in a touch of reggae and some cheesy lyrics and you got yourself a 311 album. The rap-rock thing died YEARS ago, yet they still manage to beat it out some more. Go ahead, I dare you to contradict that statement about their formula and their albums. You wont be able to because its damn true.

SpamMan (May 5, 2003)

311 is great...and they definitley have evolved. I love how everyone is "I hate them so much, their live show is the same" well obviously you've seen them more than once but you hate them?

Isn't every band's live show the same everywhere? Anytime I see a member of a "badass punk band" jump off the bass drum, I laugh. Anytime I see a guitarist throw their guitar around their back, I laugh. Anytime I see a band who jumps at the same time at the begining of a song, I laugh their too.

311's blue album was classic, of course looking back on an almost 10 year old album it will seem corny, its what happens.
Transistor was about 10 tracks too long, the first 7 songs are just fine.
Soundsystem was a "back to basics" sort of thing, the middle of the CD sounds the same and the whole CD is "alright" but I know some people who's favorite album of 311 is Soundsystem.
From Chaos is where it all comes together, not a single bad track on there.

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

there is a lot of dick suckn on this page, im out

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

311 sucks eachothers dicks

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

thats funny. you should stab yourself in the face. shouldnt u be in highschool little boy?

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

i love how that guy was talking bout how 311 mix up rap and reggae as if it hasn't been done too many fuckin times. those guys really blow. he should listen to ACTUAL punk. like the Barenaked Ladies

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

dude, their music has changed. sometimes for the worse granted, i'll admit, soundsystem and transistor are pretty bad but have their moments. but cmon, 'amber'? that song is amazing. yea they have some cheesy songs im not saying their infallible, but there are many more bands out there that deserve to be shit on. lets hear what your band has written and acomplished. lets see u crank out 'amber' when you're 30 fucking years old. look at bad religeon, they made the same album like 10 times and arent even good and everyone sucks their dicks. 311 at least have an amazing drummer and bassist and mix up rap , reggae etc. fuck you.

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

311 sucks because they've been doing the same shit for years and have yet to evolve or go anywhere. Their lyrics are cheesy as fuck and they've played the same exact live show for years now.

Yeah, they're nice guys that care about their fans but that doesn't mean jackshit about the actual music.

I used to be the biggest 311 fan, but man, I'm almost embarressed to play some of their music now.

Evolver better be decent.

Anonymous (May 5, 2003)

hey lay off 311 guys, people suck the nuts of bands that have been around for like one year ie. thrice, thursday, tbs etc. i mean, like them or not, at least respect the fact that they have been making music for over 10 years now and are super nice guys who really give a shit about their fans. i think their music kicks ass, but i mean, really, even if u don't, why dis them? they havent had a hit since 96 and obviously arent the flavor of the week or on mtv anymore. chill out.

Anonymous (May 4, 2003)

Kottonmouth Kings blow, Zebrahead blows, and I have never heard of the riddlin' kids. So as far as i can tell, unless they are completely different bands live, this must have sucked big time.

Anonymous (May 4, 2003)

..... And about as punk as britney

Anonymous (May 4, 2003)

To the kid below me, i wasnt at this show but let me tell you, these bands, just like you are dangerously gay so this show indeed could possibly have been the gayest show ever.

Anonymous (May 4, 2003)

Great close mindedness. I wasnt there but it sucked. So many people on this are so closeminded it is ridiculous. There is other music besides "punk". If you hate kottonmouth, tear them a new asshole on a review of the album, not the show review when you have never seen them live. In fact, there live shows are insane, and more "punk" then most of the poser bands out there now.

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

i didnt even read this review but let me tell you, this was probably the gayest show ever

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

This garbage gets posted but my Black eyes review doesn't? Damn scott.

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

These bands suck.....period.

CallingLondon (May 3, 2003)

zebrahead is pretty good. in no way are they incredible, but they're good.

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

KMK blow hard.

Maybe if they stopped smoking the dope, they'd actually come up with some decent music.

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

"kottonmouth kings own you all. its a shame when people can't understand a band that is breaking musical borders and straying from the typical, redundant music heard on the radio or MTV."

You mean like a majority of the music mentioned on this site? Your comment is silly and it confuses me.

Anonymous (May 3, 2003)

Riddlin Kids are actually pretty good, more energy and "harder" ( if that's even possible) than post generic pop punk out today...

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

fuck the kottonmouth kings. OK guys, we understand that you can't live a sober second in your life. thank you, we got the message.

"Hey guys, i got a new idea for a song. let's sing about getting high!" I swear, that's hat they say everytime. these guys are genetically engineered to sell to high-schoolers, and it's clear.

Capitol Records Exec. 1: We need a band that will win us the high-school-age market.

Capitol Records Exec. 2: I know. A bunch of stoners rap-rockin' about weed.

And there you have it, the story of the Kottonmouth Kings.

krowdsurf (May 2, 2003)

KMK are pretty good and Zebrahead are phenomenal. I'm glad there's one or two people at least on this site who agree with me. I'm going to this show in DC in a few weeks. Word.

TheBouncingSoul (May 2, 2003)

"kottonmouth kings own you all. its a shame when people can't understand a band that is breaking musical borders and straying from the typical, redundant music heard on the radio or MTV."

hahahahaha...sure

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

311 is fucking terrible. Man, there live shows ARE ALL THE SAME. And have been so for YEARS now. Not to mention the cheesy as fuck lyrics.

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

I love how there are these obsessed fans of certain bands (in this case Zebrahead obviously) that hate every other band in the world besides the one they're obsessed with. All those show reviews that say "This was the best show in the history of the world. Every single band that played was the worst band in the world, except Band X, even though all the other bands that played sound exactly like Band X."

I think you need to realize that people have preferences and opinions. You just come off as an ignorant douchebag, making statements like the one above.

-Scotty

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

kottonmouth kings own you all. its a shame when people can't understand a band that is breaking musical borders and straying from the typical, redundant music heard on the radio or MTV.

www.suburbannoizerecords.com

viceroymonarch (May 2, 2003)

I love how there are these obsessed fans of certain bands (in this case Zebrahead obviously) that hate every other band in the world besides the one they're obsessed with. All those show reviews that say "This was the best show in the history of the world. Every single band that played was the worst band in the world, except Band X, even though all the other bands that played sound exactly like Band X."

SomeoneElse (May 2, 2003)

gotta agree with you on 311, BeaArthur. they've got some great songs, but they love to fuck the whole song up. crazy.

FortyMinutesWest (May 2, 2003)

I used to rock out to 311 back in like 6th grade. Make an instrumental, add a little vocal, take it to the station make the people go loco! Damn, those were the days..

ElVaquero (May 2, 2003)

I like Zebrahead's first album. That is all.

-El Vaquero

BeaArthur (May 2, 2003)

Ah Zebrahead., they suffer from 311 disease. Half of one song is good, but the rest of that same song is TERRIBLE.

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

Zebrahead rocks. They put on a good show, but I refuse to shell out $25 to see the other craptacular bands. The bad outweighs the good.

But, I'm happy they will be releasing a new cd....finally.

This score is for motherfucking Zebrahead.

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

zebrahead kick ass, i've seen em twice and am stoked to hear they have a new album coming out, i love their first two. most people are going to shit on you for liking them, cuz they're not indy or screamo and they rap.but i'm with ya, you got a friend in PA. peace3
cawknocker

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

Eat rust nails....anywho, by reading this review I assume you paid more than $20 for this crapfest? Are you serious?
My god, you could get a cheap hooker to give you a handjob for that.

-sickboi

pope_schlomo (May 2, 2003)

"I'd rather rusty nails for for breakfast."

grammar police: APB out on sickboi.

Ramo

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

I'd rather rusty nails for for breakfast.

-sickboi

Anonymous (May 2, 2003)

Wow, I wouldn't go to a show just to see Zebrahead. In fact, if they were opening, I'd just show up late, and if they were headlining, I'd leave early.

dignin (May 2, 2003)

there's a reason noone would review this show, now post me another cursive show review.

pope_schlomo (May 2, 2003)

good review. but what a craptacular tour. i think my bowel movements could make a better lineup.

Ramo

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