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Published on May 27th 2003
A punk show, a rock concert? A bit of both. Sum 41 are truly a cut above. Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
Flashlight Brown is good, Sum 41 is ok, but Billy Talent is pure shit. I agree that billy talent can suck my balls the last few sentences say it all!!! i saw them last winter in cleveland (CLEVELAND ROXX!!!) and they really know how to make you lose control! one of my quietest friends was the mose psyched people there. thats gotta tell you sumtn! their entrance puts you in a state of freakishly exciting anticipating and their closing leaves you def for a week. no one can give a better show than them! its amazing they werent discovered until a year after they left high school. i would have been all over signing them. NE wayz... your life isnt complete without seeing one of their shows... its the only way you can die truly happy... this was a while back but: Billy Talent can lick my ballsack! HEY, GUYS, AT LEAST D.O.A. ARE FROM CANADA. And they only sucked when they went metal. hey nofxpunkltj, I made fun of sum 41 after your comment. They are NOT a good band. Their music is so derivative and lyrics so dull and high schoolish. And Im yet to hear a good reason why their so good. I think a lot of you people need to hop off your 'punker than thou' wagons and get a hobby. Try collecting baseball cards. I'll trade anything for a Kirby Puckett rookie card. I given it a lot of thought this time and re-reading this review. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Fuck Canada. He told you what bands he listens to so you don't think hes some poser that listens to GC and simple plan saying GC is good. I also find it funny that no one responded after my paragraph thing about sum 41 not sucking. NO ONE has made fun of sum 41 after it. YOU ALL SUCK! You cant say anything back except "they suck" which is probably what ill hear now. Even if you guys do respond now it doesnt even count. You all suck, and all you kids going on just to bash them are posers. this guy downs on the opening bands for "swearing, to prove there tough punkness" yet he's quick to assure us of his by having to waste our fucking time to tell us what bands he listens to. he needs to go sing along to his Atticus compilation some more and stay off the reviews there are better pop-punk songs i think but they aren't mixtape appropriate. yeah boston music boys back!!! Now someone please bring back that ridiculus fictional character wussemorock!!!! and to the guy a few posts down, I dont even like all that much punk, I do like a select few, but come on sum 41 is defiantly not good, their terribly average. Hmmmm I havent been hear for a while... but Im very confused. Since when is it ok to not hate Sum41? Im very impressed that sickboi has at least realized that they dont suck as bad as Simple Plan. On a somewhat related note... has anyone heard anything about the new blink182 album? What its like?-BostonMusicGuy all of these bands suck, all of you suck your petty live don't mean shit So do I. man, i hate the 80's hair metal. Ok, this band doesn't suck as bad as NFG, simple plan etc but that's not saying much. On a lighter note their new CD sounds like 95 skate punk mixed with 80s hair metal riffs. No, best pop-punk song ever = bittersweet by GR Best pop punk song ever - 'Hope' by the Descendents. Because no one could possibly dislike their music. Sum 41 is good, theyre new stuff is. To all of you saying Sum 41 sucks- All killer no filler sucks and half hour of power isnt too good. The new CD is good with a few exceptions. If the new sum 41 CD was titled with a different band name you would probably like them. Guys like you listen to punk to be cool. We'll I don't. If I listen to a band and like them I will admit it and I don't care how "popular" they are. Okay I'm sorry im probably not "punk-enough" for you cool lets hate everything punks. I dislike Good Charlotte and New Found Glory. I think they are terrible. I also hate Simple Plan and the Starting Line and all that MTV crap. Sum 41 is MTV crap but its good. Listen to "Mr. Amsterdam" or "Hyper-Insomnia-Para-Condroid." Its good. Though I should ask myself "why am I writing this?" because you narrow minded, ignorant people won't care and still go around saying "yo man, i'm so punk... and SUM 41 SUCKS!" I guess it makes you cool nowadays. Maybe one of you guys should come out with a clothing company called "Sum 41 sucks" the clothes would be a number one hit to all you stubborn morons. To the kid below, throw some Screeching Weasel on there, chicks LOVE the Weasel. I'd recommend "Speed of Mutation". my friend peter-alkaline trio what are good pop-punk songs to put on a mix-tape for a chick you really like. half hour of power is an ep. well, meaningless as this may be... i think its fairly a controversial issue over whether half hour of power is an LP or an EP. i consider it an LP. there are many 22-32 minute CDs that people consider EPs. but weezer's green album is just as long as HHOP but no one calls the green album an EP. "Besides punk is not an easy thing to define." I think Sum 41 falls in the guilty pleasure catagory. I don't turn them off when a song comes on the radio but I'm not buying their albums or going to their shows. Kinda like the Offspring. not once did I say they were punk. sum 41 is pretty anti-punk to be on a punk page. They're openly against punk rock. I don't really understand why theres even room for argument about this. Its a fucking waste. I just come in here cuz i think its funny when some 13 year old teeny bopper like this guy is all like "they're so hard working and hardcore". you can like them. thats your right. but its not your right to call something punk that clearly isn't. thats determined by the universe, not you. good, debate over. I'm not gonna go any further info a debate of history with you. Obviously, without a definition, some are clueless to the multiple uses of a word. Therefore I figured I'd help you lads out a little. wow big deal, sickboi went and read the dictionary. What a loser, thanks for throwing in the definition. so for the record is that what you were refering to: Oh, sorry for the mispelling, "medieval", better? you're right sickboi, my bad Yes, thats why in the original post I described the tsar perfectly, moron. I was referring to Alexander of Russia........ For the guy talking about Alexander stealing ideas Further point for sickboi - medievil Russians???? What kind of spelling is that. And as for your accuracy. Alexander the Great was dead a thousand years before the 'medievil' times. Dear dumbass no.2 aka sickboi: do you mean avid Sum 41 fan?? What Mr. Wizard down there's problem is, is that he's a rabid Sum 41 fan and he doesn't want to look stupid by saying "Sum 41 R00LZ!" so he decided to way overdo the pretentious display of his intelligence by rambling on about Machiavelli and Hitler. Sum 41 have really improved their live show in the past couple of years. I caught them at Warped 2001 and thought they blew goats. Deryck's voice was absolutely horrible and they didn't have much stage prescence. However, I saw them in Cleveland a few months ago with NUFAN (who I only caught the last few songs of because the Ohio Turnpike fucking sucks.) but I'll say Sum 41 did a hell of a better job than I was expecting. I don't think I'd ever go to just see them again, but I wouldn't complain if they were opening for another band I was going to see. "Make a change, prove a point, win a war, just leave Sum 41 alone." What the hell. Hey Dr. Martin Luther King, I dont think your practicing what you preach cause your on and commentibng on this site. they're decent, but i haven't seen them in a while, so they probably improved. they're the only mainstream "punk" band that one can respect, because they seem to actually have fun with their music. do you actually think a band like new found glory likes their music? they're in their mid-twenties and write about high school, get over your ex-girlfriend when you were 14, guys. And to that cock, on the idea of philosophy, Alexander the Great stole all of his ideas, thoughts, culture, etc. from Europe. He merely just introduced new cultures to a bunch of ignorant, medievil Russians. good review, i think half hour of power was a LP not an EP but i might be wrong. Since joeg used it, and I've seen it other places before, I have to ask: What the hell does Come on, the first thing I think of when I hear the name Sum 41 is "hmm, I'd better read up on John Locke" wasnt this a review of a show and erm, not all this politics.... i've seen sum 41 and it's an hour i will never get back... By heat do you mean "Someone reading down their bookshelf in an attempt to look smart on the internet"? hey if you don't like the heat get out of the oven... Machiavelli thought that it was better to be hated than loved, which of course you already said. But his whole premise was about looking good instead of being good. I should have been a bit more clear on the severe punishment thing, but it remains that he thought a king should bend or break the law when necessary, as long as the people didn't find out. I've taken many philosophy classes and read plenty of books on the subject, I'm far from an expert on it though. And I never said punk wasn't about politics, but to bring up philosophy because someone is bashing a band is pointless. When someone makes fun of a band I like I don't say "Stop bashing (band x) and go read Nietzche!" Just because you're well versed on such topics doesn't mean you have to throw your intellectual weight around and try to look smarter than everyone else. man, did that gut get burned!!! you're wrong. Hey, are you intellectually insecure or do you just like dropping names? Your condescending, elitist comment only made you look like a hypocrite. Machiavelli believed that a good ruler should severely punish his people and be a good liar. Hitler, well we all know about him. But why are we even discussing this, this is a music site. There is no deep philosophical discussion needed, people can like whatever they want to like. I think everyone should all calm down.....its exactly what theyre hoping for...! i bet theyre laughing at this screen right now yes now! speaking of stuck up elitists...... I hate all the people who come on here with their better-than-everyone attitudes. Soo... Melvyl bashes Refused every chance he get's and likes Sum 41. Yeah.... Note to self: never, ever value Melvyl's opinion. Sum 41 is tolerable. And don't fuck with metal. sum 41 rocks. they're soooo much better than nfg (new found glory, duh!), gc (good charlotte, double duh!) punk as fuck guys. i love those cute little jumps and whirls and spins they do! so cute! omg i I may be an ignorant, jaded punk, but sum 41 sucks the manwang. They're every bit as bad as nfg or good charlotte. No, they're worse... they're all like RAWR!!! W3 R M3T@LLL!@!!!PHERR US! no... we'll be pop for a little while to get some underage pussy.. NOW WE'RE PUNKS BITCH... OH WAIT TIME TO BE METAL AGAIN!!! Jesus SHIT!! Why is everyone kissing Sum 41's ass? They rip off all thsoe other skate rock bands. And oh don't even get me started on jumping on cue( I don't think I used that right). Please peopel think before you speak. 'i mean shit.. Sum 41 rocks and yes, like many have said, they have gained my respect over the past few years. Started out hating them, but there's just too much to like. billy talent rocks your face off i feel pretty punk for having never heard of live on release I saw Sum 41 a couple years ago right when they started to gain popularity and they were horrible. Derryck couldn't sing for shit, the only thing that made it redeemable was that nobody had a clue as to who they were so there weren't many people. This score is for spelling all the bands' names without any capitalization. drunk or not, Flashlight Brown is fucking awful. you know, i think EVERYONE out there knows that sum 41 sucks to some degree. okay. but come on, compared to the simple plans and good charlottes and live on releases of the world, don't that start to look just a teensy bit better every day? i mean shit.. "Now before I start please understand I'm not a 13 year old teeny bopper that listens to avril lavigne and liveonrelease I mostly listen to rise against, good riddance, propagandhi, strike anywhere, bigwig and belvedere." Playing over an hour makes you hard working? I know bands who played over an hour on their first show in someone's living room. having more integrity than peoples on trl is an achievement? 'They swore quite a bit in between songs as did Billy Talent just to prove their tough punk side' i like rise against and sum 41 too, but there are a lot of people who have wide tastes like me. i like everything from something corporate to my chemical romance to avenged sevenfold (except for those godawful scratchy vocals). sum 41 really do have a little more integrity than half - no, 90-99% - of the shit clogging the trl airwaves. ps. studio wizardry??? ha ha ha sum 41 may very well be a good live band, I dont know Ive never seen them before, but their cds suck balls. "one of the worst live bands you've ever seen?? "re:fuck canada" what should I listen to - ABBA, your mom? ditchpig??? are you kidding those guys sound like a pregnancy. I'll be the first to say that I hate Sum 41. Ditchpig and the Fabulous Kildonans played the same night at The Zoo, way to miss the boat pissteeth. if you really want people to respect you, don't start off by trying to justify your opinions to them. I've always liked Sum 41. Sure they've had thier annoying moments, but they are a solid band, and funny as crap too. The vidoes for "Makes No Difference" and "The Hell Song" are downright hilarious. when i saw them in january they kicked off with mr amsterdam too, and my god it fucking kicked ass. their new CD is actually pretty good. Definitely got some edge to it Oh, yeah, this score is for the reviewer's username. yeah sicboi you should totally check them out, they rock hard live.. Actually, Im begining to respect Sum41 a tad. Where we have your NFG's and Good Charlottes plastering their faces on every media outlet possible, Sum41 seem to tour constantly and I've heard nothing but good things about their live show. yeah, I was at the same show, a good solid performance. one of the worst live bands you've ever seen?? Sum 41 is one of the worst live bands I've ever seen. No negativity or ignorance detected. =D Great review. good review, I'll have to check them out |
