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Published on June 10th 2003
The buzz surrounding Radiohead's Hail To The Thief is tremendous. Many "insiders" are said that Radiohead is returning to that old Radiohead sound, the sound that made them larger than life, with albums such as OK Computer and Pablo Honey. Radiohead perfected brit-pop with a twist. And the way I look at it, there are 2 opinions when it comes to Radiohead..."Yes, Radiohead is very good and OK Computer was one of the best albums of the 90's" or "OI OI OI RADIOHEAD SUX, THEY DONT EVEN HAVE MOHAWKS! WHERE IS MY CASUALTIES CD?! OI!" People who liked this also liked:           Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
I disagree with the reviewer about There There. It's quite frankly their best song if not one of their most complete songs in their discography. Lyrically, emotionally, and musically the song is perfect. Correct,this isn't punk.You show me a punk band that has the creativity to write an OK Computer.This albulm,however isn't OK Computer,but it is still more intelligent and complex than any punk release I've ever heard. So my friends and I blacked out on new punk bands from the UK and we went to check what they were (turns out Britain really hasn't put out that many noteworthy acts this century) and we stumbled across a Radiohead review, and I blurt out my very first sincere "that's not punk." simply mindblowing :) their worst album, but it still has some good songs i got this album a while ago and i love it. thats all. enough said. This review isn't that good. this album is. best radiohead cd's i don't know, kid. my friends and i consider ourselves pseudo-intellectual. we also go to art school, and i think i am prentious. plus, we all like radiohead. First off, I would like to state (rather late) that I hate the stereotype by all the "HxC" punk kids (or anyone else for that matter) that the only people that enjoy Radiohead are pretentious, artsy-fartsy pseudo-intellectual kids. Radiohead actually started out as a punk band in the first place, but I think they share the opinion of many that punk music gets just plain boring shelling out the same old power chords over and over--which is what the majority of what "punk" music is today (elitist punks piss me off also). To call people who call Radiohead boring to be "shallow" would be kind of in asshole thing to say, so I'm just going to call them "set in their ways..." So now that thats out of the way... radiohead can be summed up in one word: overrated man, kool keith is the best rapper ever. That was a joke. To The person that said Karma Police was the best song. I agree but It isnt even on the album so i dont know what ur rambling on about Radiohead has always been a kick ass SKA band. Theis horn arrangements are great and their two-tone look makes them the kings of the new rocksteady beat. The Toasters stole everything they know from Radiohead. "whickack!...whickack!...BUT I'M A CREEP! I'M A WEIRDO! WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE?!? I DON'T BELONG HERE!" "What the fuck? This is a PUNK WEBSITE. What the fuck is a Radiohead review doing on here. I like Radiohead but they don't belong on this fucking website. Should we start reviewing rap music to. I'll tell you what. I'll review the new 50 Cent album. How about that. No, fuck 50 Cent. I'm gonna review some real rap. I'll review Eazy E's 187 Um Killa."Actually Ive already reviewed Jurassic 5's "Power by Numbers" and I do believe someone else reviewed The Roots "Phrenology".Rap doesnt end with pop-rap like 50-cent and gangsta rap of the early 90's like Eazy-E.I think this site has proven time and again that punk does not end with Rancid and the Casualties. THis album, as much as any, deserves to be on here. I may not be the biggest Radiohead fan. In my opinion it is a little boring. But I do recognize good musicianship when I hear it... and they definitley have it.-BostonMusicGuy (Just thought Id address that since no one else did) "Karma Police" is the best song. fuck you guys. THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE NOFX!!! I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!! Hmmm, I don't care for radiohead, so I must be a dumb "punk" who goes around shouting "oi!". The reviewer came off as more irrational than those who critisize a bunch of tards like Radiohead. Double posted for a strong emphasis. No there isn't. No there isn't. what a shitty review. When I was in Scotland last, some of the rabbits by the side of the road were fucked up. Their eyes were puffy and they walked slowly and haltingly rather than frolicking happily. They were "myxie" rabbits who'd been intentionally given myxamatosis since they were considered pests. Eventually it kills them. So even though I'm fairly indifferent to Radiohead the album gets a 10 for having a song called myxamatosis. I usually think sickboi is dead on with his comments...howvere I do have to disagree about Radiohead. They are without a doubt an incredible batch of musicians who are (in my opinion) the saving grace of mainstream rock right now. Sublime has a fucking rad cover of the PUNK songs We're Only Gonna Die For Our Arrogance (Bad Religion) and Hope (Descendents)...You definately can't deny their punk rock influences. PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP! "reggae punk (Look at sublime)" sickboi, you should be ashamed of yourself. I still say "Creep" is the only good thing they did. Nothing like a good ol' fashion condescending jackass. Great band, great CD. Their music is somewhat subtle and requires something called 'attention span' and 'patience' to fully enjoy. I'll have to say.. I just went out and bought the CD yesterday... amazing... just amazing. When you come from the same city as Mr.Swift, have study EVERY single word at university, I'll let you be the authority on this subject. does anyone know what guitar effect is used in myxomatosis? 2 2 = 5 reminds me of fugazi or something in the middle of the song. Its pretty cool. This is a great album to listen too when your stoned out of your brain the only good band on that list below is propagandhi canadian rock kills all other What the fuck? This is a PUNK WEBSITE. What the fuck is a Radiohead review doing on here. I like Radiohead but they don't belong on this fucking website. Should we start reviewing rap music to. I'll tell you what. I'll review the new 50 Cent album. How about that. No, fuck 50 Cent. I'm gonna review some real rap. I'll review Eazy E's 187 Um Killa. Just the typical expected genious from radiohead. The album is mellow and meloncholly. Upbeat yet slow and steady. If youve been keeping up with reviews in magazines or online, they will all tell you not expect ok computer or even amnesiac. There is some truth to that, but in the end its still raidiohead and its still beautiful. the guy below me has a point, OK Computer is genius craftsmanship. I can't wait to hear Hail To The Thief. wyzo man, i like you and all but them's fightin words. This cd is fanfuckingtastic. Sara...just wait until the next one. He has said the band will be completely unrecognizable. They said this cd was going to sound like Ok COMPUTER,and it does. I don't know if that's good or bad. Why wouldn't you want to make something better,or different instead of sticking with the same formula. Anyway, it's good. No shit it was satire. The guy talks about eating babies and making gloves out of their skin. No one in their right mind would think it was serious. While I'm sure you thought you sounded pretty smart by pointing out the obvious, you didn't. I dont like Radiohead at all but Im going to give this review a 10 for one reason... "OI OI OI RADIOHEAD SUX, THEY DONT EVEN HAVE MOHAWKS! WHERE IS MY CASUALTIES CD?! OI!"That made me laugh out loud when I was all alone at work.-BostonMusicGuy i just want to say... punknews is a very respected site. i am not really into the punk scene, but a friend of me is, so he is all the time talking about this site... and well this radiohead review sucks... very very poor i dont know if the guy was trying to sound smart or what. it is a terrible review. thats all. A modest proposal. While I am sure you were trying to sound intelligent, I think you failed somewhat, after all satire is king. Edit that comment.. paranoid android is on OK Computer. Sorry bout that misstep I'm giving this a 7. Why? Well, solely because i havent had the chance to go out and buy it yet. I have, however, listened to most of the songs, and I must say that they are absolutely amazing songs, the ones I've heard. Right now, paranoid android tends to be my favorite. The thing is though, this isn't as good as OK Computer or The Bends, let's face it, very few albums are, and yeah it's not punk but I do enjoy a large variety of music. Still, the review was pretty accurate, and wasn't the worst ever on this site by a long long way. I sorta agree with the review thing. But I don't think all of them take getting used to. Some of the people, I'd say half, really don't like the CDs. First off, everyone always says the new radiohead isn't as good as any other album, then 6 months later you will realize it is still in your cd player, and you realize you love it. Great album, not without it's highs and lows...sail to the moon being the low...myxamatosis being the absolute peak. - bigjerk I don't like this band at all. But if your in to "boring music" I think you'll love this. wtf...the yeah yeah yeahs and now radiohead...PURITY FOR PUNK! Whaaaaa aaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. good cd.. sounds more like the bends than anything.. its no kid a and its no ok computer... but its deffinately good.. although the problem with radiohead is that each of their cds is good in their own way.. this one returns to The Bends / Ok Computer sound... only fails to beat either out ;o as for radiohead possessing more vision than the normal MTV band, what is there vision, dont beat around the bush with lush tapestries of sound, what exactly is there 'vision', just plain right there, what is it, world peace, a good fuck, what, get down to brass tacks, what is this elusive divinity they channel? point to it, what is the fucking vision. all i know is if a local band was some guy warbling on with lyrics that are so obtuse that they somehow reconnect to depth, you wouldn't blink twice, but since they have such a press machine behind them of people who like to label bands as "the best band in rock today" or some other dumb transcendent clergy heirarchy of music claptrap then radiohead rocks. But boring music with complex instrumentation is not good music, thats why steve vai will never rock harder than at the drive in. Its not just intilligence, its the common fucking melody of emotion and perception. This shit feels like every rose has its thorn when I'm in the mood for hot for teacher. Who wants to listen to the same old shit? Not Radiohead fans. To call this band the most boring mainstream band is a completely uninformed statement. As if ANY other band on MTV had half the talent or vision these guys possess. They're not my favorite band, but that's a statement I stand behind. I pity the folks who don't like Radiohead. This band is incredible. Also, I thought Kid A was amazing. OK Computer... amazing, and the rest are good for the most part. Though I've only heard this once and it was many weeks ago. So, an 8 is fair for now. "if you want you could say 'hail to the thief' refers to dubya stealing the presidency, but that's pretty far-fetched." Yes, Radiohead is different, but different doesn't automatically equal good. I'm not going to get into to musical theory or say some uneducated thing about how they just use random noises. I will say this though, I don't like this band, they bore me. Then its doing its job. If stupid people like you hemmingway yourselves whenever good music is played, then I would be fucking happy. Because then there wouldn't be anyone like your dumb ass buying whatever is on the best seller chart at best buy. Which means that those abortion-inducing bands wouldn't be able to make any more music. Woohoo! "Hey! This doesn't sound familiar to me! I'm sacred of this new music! Where's my new Lagwagon cd?" Fucking lemming. twat Depressive, Suicidal and boring.I've heard the whole record on radio the other day, and I wanted to kill myself. dude, i'm sorry but radiohead does have a very unique sound. I love mogwai as much as the next guy but they don't sound like radiohead all that much. by the way Kid A is fucking amazing, so is OK Computer, they're just two completly different albums, Amnesiac has its spots, the Bends is a great album but not as great as Ok com. or Kid A. This one is steadily growing on me. Myxomatosis is such a fucking great song. 9/8 is probable, that's why I suggested it earlier. That sorta extends the measure, though... so it could be written wrong on the sheet music. I was referring to the sheet music my friend has for the piano of "Pyramid Song." While I'm not an expert, I'm also not untrained. I know that it shifts time signatures a bunch of times, but it also has a pretty non-standard time throughout. I'll have to check back... I was so sure about 8/9, but it probably is 9/8. oh yeah, about the album. well, radiohead used to bore me. a lot. they've grown on me since then. i heard this album last night, and it was great, except for one song which was awfull. i think i might actually buy this one. i'm confused as to why people are calling radiohead brit-pop. this is simply not true, for that would require the second half of that description. radiohead is not a pop band in any way shape or form, and the word "pop" does not mean popular, it's referring to soda-pop. show me a sugary pop song by radiohead, and i'll cut my dick off. Oh yeah, and to evildeadalive...how can you give Radiohead the most overrated band ever award? I think that goes to Oasis or Slater-Kenney. relay1112...continuing. relay1112, I was being slightly sarcastic. 8/9 time actually doesn't exist, it isn't possible to have something in that time signature. The bottom number represents the kind of note, and the top number represents the number of notes in the measure. The top number could be almost anything, within reason and depending on the bottom number. The bottom number, however, is either 1 or is a multiple of 2 (2 being a half note, 4 being a quarter note, and so on...) I've never really liked Radiohead. I guess I don't get it. I think one of the funniest comments I've ever heard about them was something like, "They sound like a screaming lamb being slaughtered." "People with lazy eyes should be dragged out into a field and shot" i haven't bought the album yet but i liked ok computer. i could understand why this would be on a punk website, because many of radiohead's songs have to do with not liking modern mainstream/yuppie/corporate/american-idol watching culture. if you want you could say 'hail to the thief' refers to dubya stealing the presidency, but that's pretty far-fetched. "Oh yeah, and to relay...I'll be REALLY impressed when anyone writes a song in 8/9 time. You probably meant 9/8, although, Radiohead doesn't really go that far most of the time, they like to keep the pretense of dancable." Be careful, you either like this band or you're a dumb crust punk. Didn't read the review, and didn't read the comments, but just one thing to say - most overrated band EVER. You've got to admit... From the first time i heard the live shows from spain, leading off with There, There, i knew this would be another amazing album. Like most great albums/bands, you can listen to it and find something new every time. Here's the difference: I don't take Andrew W.K.'s music seriously. Radiohead and their fans take that random compiling of noise more seriously than anything. And to the asshole below me, I don't write for a fucking wrestling site, I write for an entertainment site, in the music section specifically. I've never written anything for 411mania.com except music stuff, and I have nothing to do with the wrestling part of it. Oh and to Kevin11, I have no problem with you but honestly, I really hate that you would say people only fit into two categories of either liking Radiohead or being l33tsp33king gutterpunks who like to play dressup.-----Ryan T. Murphy i don't really like OK Computer. i thought it was good, but was NOWHERE near as good as the bends. the bends, that's a fucking great album Oh yeah, and to relay...I'll be REALLY impressed when anyone writes a song in 8/9 time. You probably meant 9/8, although, Radiohead doesn't really go that far most of the time, they like to keep the pretense of dancable. I gotta agree with whats-his-head. Radiohead has never rocked, but that's really not a bad thing anyway. They do some amazing stuff in the studio, but they're not exactly a super-original band because of that, that's just hype. They're just the first band to go big with it, kind of like Nirvana did in the early 90s. There are other bands that sound like Radiohead (Mogwai for instance), they're just hard to find. Ryan T Murphy write for a wrestling website. Explains a lot, doesn't it??? Quite possibly the biggest dumbass on the planet with the worst view on any music I have ever read. Please go back to covering Hulk Hogan's balls and stop boring us with your threats of violence. Loser. People with lazy eyes should be dragged out into a field and shot ""OI OI OI RADIOHEAD SUX, THEY DONT EVEN HAVE MOHAWKS! WHERE IS MY CASUALTIES CD?! OI!" waste, while you might be right about this album, he has said the band will be completely unrecognizable in 2 years...so yeah you can expect the next album to be a pretty big step away. radiohead has never rocked? Go listen to "just" off the bends, thats most definitly rock. And saying anyone can do what radiohead does is just plain ignorant. radiohead: the only band in rock music never to have ever ever rocked. picked up the album, special edition because i'm a sucker, and i must say i'm very impressed. it keeps the experimentalism of kid a intact while making it a bit more palatible at the same time. i still kind of feel like the album was a forced retread, in order to keep them at 'street level' so to speak and stay relevant amongst the mainstream. i don't mind it, it's still brilliant, i'm just looking for an evolution beyong kid a and amnesiac. thom yorke said that they still had some wild, 'out there' things in their future and that the best was yet to come. this makes me very excited. Holy shit! Someone made a typo or a grammatical error! This will surely cause the downfall of western civilization! Oh well, it was a nice run while it lasted... "holy shit...what ever happened to that band??..."A Soap Bubble and Inertia" is such a great record..." What the hell is with the use of "Oi!" as a symbol of idiocy? Everybody I know that listens to Oi! music are actually rather smart. Wow, I'm really shocked at the people who are "against" Radiohead for changing, "against" what they did to you poor fans when they came out with Kid A. Please, don't be mad at a band because they want to experiment with new things. Are you gonna tell me that Sgt. Pepper's sucked when The Beatles released that?If you don't like the Radiohead changing, really, try to do something about it. If you don't like Radiohead to begin with, why are you commenting about the review? most overrated band EVER " If you like one album, thats cool, but its really all you need." Kondooit??? Wut r the wert meen??? U sond 2 smrt 2 b punx!!! go bak 2 skol braneac!!! u r ot 4 punx!!! oi oi oi!!! I hear people calling it pretentious art-rock, and to a certain extent it may be. But you CANNOT call this music easy. VERY FEW PEOPLE could make music as distinct and good as Radiohead's. You try writing music in 8/9 time while juxtaposing electronic and organic music successfully. There's a reason millions of people consider Radiohead "the best band on Earth." It's because they have the talent to potentially be such a thing. radiohead sucks gay dick just like these pussies commenting. especially all those spelling bee winners checking for grammar. I think this band, the Casualties, and AWK suck. But since this a Radiohead review, let me tell you why: As if you didn't know, IT'S OKAY TO LISTEN TO MUSIC OTHER THAN PUNK ROCK. That being said though, this is a punk site and Radiohead definitely does not fit into that category. If you want to review their album, put it on a different site. "Radiohead are the epitome of pretentious art-house bullshit. They sit there and make random sounds with toys and gizmos in the name of being "deep and artistic" and the sad shit is, every Dave Matthews listening college jock is going to eat it up with a spoon when they're too drunk to care what they're listening to. Oh and for the record, I think the Casualties suck too, and if the reviewer has a problem with that he can come find me, I live in Orlando too.-----Ryan T. Murphy, 411mania.com" Of course a comment that dumb would have to come from an Andrew WK fan...Jesus Christ... "I think I'm in a very small minority when I say that "Kid A" is my favorite Radiohead album" Y'know, I come to this site everyday, I listen to a whole lot of shit that would never be considered punk, and I'm a little embarassed that I've been listening to Coldplay more than anything lately and I'm all for expanding the definition of punk and whatnot... this is a amazing album, hands down "yeah definitely" "The album album has it's highs and lows" "Radiohead are the epitome of pretentious art-house bullshit. They sit there and make random sounds with toys and gizmos in the name of being "deep and artistic" and the sad shit is, every Dave Matthews listening college jock is going to eat it up with a spoon when they're too drunk to care what they're listening to. Oh and for the record, I think the Casualties suck too, and if the reviewer has a problem with that he can come find me, I live in Orlando too.-----Ryan T. Murphy, 411mania.com" "and gandharvas!! old school southern ontario indie!! yeah!!" yeah definitely some shades of "a modest proposal" in dignin's argument, yet i think he was still influenced more by Mike Tyson than anything. nonetheless, maybe his brit-influenced idea can be carried out someday when i actually have children. Never really dug Radiohead, the only song of their's that I really liked was Creep. Sucha damn good song... i, for one, adore everything radiohead has put out. i don't agree w/ cburst in saying that the kid a and amnesiac showed little growth -- just listen to them!!! (though i know you do....) they just speak for themselves. "and if the reviewer has a problem with that he can come find me, I live in Orlando too.-----Ryan T. Murphy, 411mania.com" "A wrong turn by Radiohead, in the battle to win over non-fans was to release There There as a single, the choice seems poor due to the sheer number of marketable songs on here, more so than There There." Radiohead are the epitome of pretentious art-house bullshit. They sit there and make random sounds with toys and gizmos in the name of being "deep and artistic" and the sad shit is, every Dave Matthews listening college jock is going to eat it up with a spoon when they're too drunk to care what they're listening to. Oh and for the record, I think the Casualties suck too, and if the reviewer has a problem with that he can come find me, I live in Orlando too.-----Ryan T. Murphy, 411mania.com The only thing I can stomach from this band is "Creep". Thats it. First of all, I'd like to continue my crusade: PROOFREAD YOUR SHIT BEFORE YOU SUBMIT IT! Who the fuck cares if you're the first to review something if the review is riddled with errors? i have hated the last 2 or 3 radiohead albums, but i really like this one. Radiohead albums for me always take a good month or two to "settle in." This album was no different. But after listening to it for 2 months now, I can finally rank it among the other albums: I miss Pablo HOney and The Bends style radiohead. When their was a riff and a song structure. I'm not close-minded, I just like to have at least instruments paying instead of wigged-out machines playing wierd noises for 60 min. Their trying to much to be wierd for the sake of being wierd. If you want good wierd go get Gandharvas. "OI OI OI RADIOHEAD SUX, THEY DONT EVEN HAVE MOHAWKS! WHERE IS MY CASUALTIES CD?! OI!"What kind of jackass would say that? Very good album and an improvement from the last album. Some songs do get boring, but then it picks right back up, very good work from Radiohead! Seriously. What the hell is this review doing here? i would totally go to an avril lavigne/radiohead tour. that shit would rule. i'll bet thom yorke would totally hook up with the canadian princess herself. Great band, I just don't get it. That being said, I don't own any of their CDs, but I respect them immensely. Glad that you reviewed this here though. Nothing even comes close to pablo honey-oldpunker- Eating children, eh? Looks like someone's been reading "A Modest Proposal". "They have to be THE most boring mainstream band." Wow, I usually dont judge peoples opinions but holy shit I want to eat your children now. maverick-i agree. kid a blows their previous brit-pop out of the water. This album is MUCH better than the last two. It just might be my favorite Radiohead album yet. It's a hard fight with The Bends though. honestly, i love radiohead. but, the last two cds (this and amnesiac) have been kinda boring, and demonstrated little growth or innovation, unlike the four that preceeded it. they need to retire before they embarass themselves further. (the same advice to: pennywise, all those ex-epitaph and fat bands now on sideone, the union, and victory, so on and so forth) I think I'm in a very small minority when I say that "Kid A" is my favorite Radiohead album. Yea....definitely, fo-t. We thought Armor for Sleep was the new aesthetic (sp)...we forgot this band is still around. They have to be THE most boring mainstream band. I liked the Bends but was never able to absorb any of their other music at all. Oh and Kevin? You still suck for thinking that Engine Down was boring. This band bores the ever loving shit out of me. Maybe I'm too punk or uncultured, but I just don't like it. its an awesome album. lived up to my expectations, though not every track is a winner. |
