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Warped Tour 2003

Warped Tour 2003: live in Chicagolive in Chicago (2003)
Warped Tour

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Ah, the Warped Tour. I've been going every year since 1997 [when many of this year's attendees {and possibly bands} were still in grade school], and I've seen it's ups and downs. This year's lineup didn't look incredibly strong on paper, but as most Warped Tours do, it turns around once you're in .


Ah, the Warped Tour. I've been going every year since 1997 [when many of this year's attendees {and possibly bands} were still in grade school], and I've seen it's ups and downs. This year's lineup didn't look incredibly strong on paper, but as most Warped Tours do, it turns around once you're in the heat of battle. Allow me to begin my day.

With my younger sister in tow, we took in the Ataris' early afternoon performance. I've been a fan of this band for much too long to have never seen them live before now, and I enjoyed their quick half hour. They opened with "I Won't Spend Another Night Alone," played "Boys Of Summer" and "In This Diary" somewhere in the middle, and predictably closed with "San Dimas High School Football Rules" [with one of the guys from Simple Plan filling in on guitar instead of the usual audience member participation]. The band also threw in some more oldies like "Your Boyfriend Sucks," and it was enough to make me feel 16 again. It was a nice way to kick off the day.

We quickly hustled offstage and over to one of the side stages where we caught Damone in mid-set. What the band lacked in stage presence they made up for in killer guitar riffs. "At The Mall" ripped, and the band's set closing cover of Weezer's "You Gave Your Love To Me Softly" sounded like it was meant to be sung by a girl all along. Highly enjoyable.

At this point, the next band we wanted to see wasn't for another hour or so, so merchandise shopping we went [after catching the opening notes of the Unseen, and realizing that we had already heard three songs but they all sounded the same]. As I bought my Potshot/Suicide Machines split EP [limited edition! Japanese import! Only available in Japan or at the Warped Tour!], I heard the sounds of the Dropkick Murphys wafting over the merch tents. I recognized "Fields Of Athreny" as well as "Gonna Be A Blackout Tonight," and I'm assuming the band went over fairly well as many an Irish flag was seen waving in the pit.

After spending too much money, it was back to one of the main stages to see hometown boys Rise Against tear shit up. The band's first "real" Warped appearance [last year they commandered the end of Death By Stereo's set for a quick three songs] was well anticipated, as the crowd grew larger and larger with each passing minute. Tim and company took the stage to an immense round of cheers, and they ruled the school for a half hour straight, kicking it off with "Black Matches and Gasoline." Older stuff like "1000 Good Intentions" and "Alive and Well" were whipped out as well as stuff off Revolutions Per Minute like "Blood Red White and Blue" and "Like The Angel." Traditional set closer "Six Ways 'Til Sunday" ended the rock show, and while I must deduct points for the lack of "Gethsamane," they still earned high marks.

Glassjaw was up next.

Glassjaw was fucking siiiiiiiiiiick, bro.

Sorry, thought I was from Long Island for a second. But seriously, Glassjaw was sick. Their all-too-short 7 song set was highlighted by a new song called "Natural Born Farmer," which blew me [and most of their audience] away. Their entire setlist:
Tip Your Bartender
Mu Empire
Ape Dos Mil
The Gilette Calvacade of Sports
Cosmopolitan Bloodloss
Natural Born Farmer
Siberian Kiss

So yeah, Glassjaw slayed. As the last of their feedback rang out, I hauled ass over to the Suicide Machines, where their action-packed set was already underway. I jumped into the pit for the first [and last] time of the day, and marvelled at the band's diversity. All 5 albums were covered:
Destruction By Definition - New Girl, Break The Glass
Battle Hymns - DDT, Someone
S/T - Permanent Holiday
Steal This Record - All My People, Honor Among Thieves
A Match and Some Gasoline - Did You Ever Get A Feeling Of Dread?
They probably played more, but that's all my noise-addled brain can recall at this time. All in all, the Machines were highly entertaining and seemed amazed at the overly positive response they got.

So after I got thoroughly sweaty in the skank/mosh pit, I went over to meet my sister who was watching Rufio. After she filled me in on the bands she watched [Mest - "okay," Rancid - "awful," Bowling For Soup - "terrible"], we watched the California quartet do their thing. Again, I'll begrudgingly admit that their music is good, but please, replace the singer. He's seriously holding you back. The amount of pre-pubescent gash watching these guys was absolutely amazing - I could've picked up any one of them simply by saying "hey baby, I can buy you cigarettes and beer legally." Anyway, I know the band played "Countdown," "White Lights," and "Set It Off," and some older stuff that sent the crowd completely apeshit. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Finding myself with another hour of downtime until Andrew WK, we wandered around some more. As I bought up old 22 Jacks CDs at the SideOneDummy booth [they're only 5 bucks each! What a steal!], I overheard Simple Plan on the main stage.

And then I heard Bad Religion on the main stage.

That's right, everyone's favorite Canadian pop-punk band was covering Bad Religion's "American Jesus." As my jaw dropped in horror, I looked at the S1D merch guy. He just shook his head. I asked if this was a daily occurance, and he nodded in assent. Wow. Simple Plan needs to die, and soon.

So after being aurally raped, there was only one hope - that the audio messiah himself, Andrew WK, would baptize me with his blood, sweat, and partying. He did all of that and more.

I don't want to go into detail on just how amazing my Andrew WK experience was. Basically, here's the short version - he got my sister and I up onstage, where we enjoyed such AWK classics as "Girl's Own Love," "Ready To Die," and "She Is Beautiful." The crowd chanted multiple times for "We Want Fun," and Andrew obliged with a ripping version of the Jackass: The Movie Soundtrack single. He even featured a new song called "Your Rules" that will be on his upcoming album called The Wolf coming out on September 9th, and I Was singing along by the end of it [like any good AWK song]. As the set drew to a close with "Party Hard" followed by "I Get Wet," Andrew beckoned all of us stodgy press types in the wings out on stage, where we danced it up like there was no tomorrow. If you were watching, and saw a tall fat man in a blue shirt and khaki shorts pick up Andrew, that was yours truly.

Basically, Andrew WK was fucking amazing. I could talk about how wonderful he was for many more paragraphs, but I hope you'll just go see him yourself and realize just how amazing and inspirational a person he really is.

Thrice was up next on the other main stage, but I was much too tired to get up close, so I hung back and caught the last few songs of their set from a distance. They sounded tight as hell, and there was many a raised fist in the front of the crowd, shaking along with every cymbal crash. Their metal riffs were the perfect end to my day.

So I didn't get to see everyone I wanted to see, and I especially was biased against smaller bands today [giving pretty much every smaller band I even considered checking out the shaft]. So I ask you to pick up my slack - go watch Anatomy of a Ghost and Vaux, both bands are amazing. With that said, I can safely say that this was the most fun I've had at a Warped Tour ever. Go. Don't miss Rise Against, Glassjaw, or Andrew WK. They were easily the best three bands I saw.

[Oh, and in case you were wondering, no one came up to me and asked for free stuff, so I just ended up chucking it all offstage during the Andrew WK last song melee.]

 

 
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Anonymous (August 5, 2003)

go to www.letterkills.com, you wont be disappointed

Anonymous (August 5, 2003)

Letter kills rules!!!!

Anonymous (July 12, 2003)

even if you don't like tsunami bomb, trust me on this one, they play one of the best sets you'll ever see. peace greases

esco (July 9, 2003)

Make sure you check out Matchbook Romance if you can. Their set was solid and we ended up seeing them at Steak and Shake (why arent more places open after 10?) after the show and they were really cool.

GreenVandal (July 8, 2003)

How about we all compromise and just agree the bronx fucking rock? eh? eh? (this should get a good response)

Anonymous (July 8, 2003)

I think anybody from the original punk era would either have to be stupid or crazy to want to live in the past... When it comes down to it, living conditions were horrible, squats were fucking sick, and getting drunk every night after seeing an awesome band gets old after a while. I'm not living in the past. I just think old punk has a better sound than new...

-BSD

Anonymous (July 8, 2003)

Well, it sort of is accurate. Because I for one have had at least one pair of underwear since the 7th grade. That's like... shit 5 years ago. Updates aren't always a good thing, that's true, but I think that being stuck in the past is equally as... not good. What makes the Nerve Agents better than the Ramones? I won't care to elaborate, because since I know so little, you'll just discount me anyway.

To quote John Cusack:

How can it be bullshit to state a preference?

Oh wait, yeah. I forgot.

Sexy Pat

Anonymous (July 8, 2003)

Uhh... Since much music is timeless, the comparison to clothes and underwear are not really all that accurate. Updates aren't always a good thing. If music was a medical product of some sort, or a cure for cancer, maybe you're right... But it isn't. Music is music, not just the newest thing around. If you look at punk, as a musical genre, you'll see how little its evolved since its formative stages. It's been nearly thirty years since it started, and it has yet to face many dramatic changes. If you put Sex Pistols and the Clash, even the Ramones, in a modern context, you'll see that they work better than prog, or psychedelia. I think there's something to say for that, and a certain amount of respect owed to the bands that not only brought back a real rock revolution in the age of the seven minute drum solo, but paved the way for people to listen to other crap besides what's advertised on TV, radio, and Teen Beat. The Nerve Agents better than any of those bands? If that's what you honestly think, after listening to the first Ramones record, 'Nevermind the Bollocks', and the Clash self titeled, well, okay... But state what makes the Nerve Agents better than the Sex Pistols or Ramones... When you say things that you know are going to sound idiotic to a large amount of people, please care to explain them.

-BSD

Anonymous (July 8, 2003)

Just because someone did something first doesn't mean they do/did it better. Just because the Clash, Ramones and Sex Pistols were the "first" punk bands doesn't make them the best. Look at Jimi Hendrix. A lot of his songs were redos of other songs, and it's my opinion that his version(s) is(are) better. Just because Linda Loveless popularized deep throating doesn't mean Heather Ideepthroat isn't any better. Not that I'd know. But anyways. Old doesn't always mean good. Fresh milk is much better than sour milk. Clean underwear is nicer than old, dirty, shitstained underwear. Get the picture? good.

By the way, Jimi kicks AC/DC's ass. Rock.

Sexy Pat

GreenVandal (July 7, 2003)

I dont think your elitist. I think your a asshole who feels he needs to prove to the world how much smarter then everyeon else he is.

FortyMinutesWest (July 7, 2003)

Damn fascist.. Anyway, I think No Control is my favorite BR album at the moment. I still like their new stuff though, well except The New America.

Anonymous (July 7, 2003)

Isn't, I mean.

-BSD

Anonymous (July 7, 2003)

No, I like Bad Religion. Of course, lately, I think they've been not-as-good, but what old band is? It's just my opinion that they're nowhere near as good as the Ramones. If you find that shocking, then, hey, I guess I'm a fascist.

-BSD

FortyMinutesWest (July 7, 2003)

No need to talk shit on Bad Religion...

Anonymous (July 7, 2003)

"I like new punk, I just hate Thrice. In case you give a shit, I like bands like the Bouncing Souls, Bad Religion, The Nerve Agents, The Toasters, The Mars Volta... Not that you give a fuck"

Ohhhh... So, basically new bands that rip off old bands, but not the old bands that did it first... Wow, you're smart. I think Thrice sucks more than the Bouncing Souls, but if you're gonna say the Clash are only "okay" but go and love the Bouncing rip off Souls, it just proves you've never heard much of them. I don't give a fuck... But out of the 5 bands you mentioned, none of them are as good as the Ramones. Sorry. Saying Bad Religion is better than the Ramones is like saying AC/DC is better than Jimi Hendrix. Have your crappy taste, all you've done is proven that you know nothing about music.

I know I come off as an "elitist", but, this is the internet, and I really don't care. Also, most people who call me "elitist" are just trying to cover up for the fact that they don't know as much as me about music. Come up with something new, please.

-BSD

thriceequalsgod (July 7, 2003)

"There is no proof that Thrice is better then the clash or vice versa. Its all opinion. And your statement of "older is better" is just ridiculous, which the slavery statement was ment to point out. (get it? slavery is old? but its not better? hardy-har!) I dont even know what your trying to argue. I know the clash are more important to music then Thrice. But that doesnt make them better. Thats a matter of OPINION. If you want to insult bands that are damaging music...fine, but Thrice brings nothing but positivity to music. Think what you like, just stop insulting us because we dont concur.

-GreenVandal, watching the BSD cane some random dude, and getting really confused why he is doing it"

and seconds later, the hero strikes again.

thriceequalsgod (July 7, 2003)

"Screaming metal solos are awesome. Thrice is awesome. Thrice is fun too. You my insecure friend (the bullshit detector) need to stop talking. Thrice is more talented then most of those oldschool bands. Creativity is the arguable point....and I like them better in that category too. Its just my cup of tea, so shut your fucking mouth and stop starting reasonless conflicts to further your self esteem. nice essays, too bad its all opinion.

Music should be based off quality not history.

-GreenVandal"

youre my hero. you said what i wanted to say, but couldn't find the words for.

Anonymous (July 7, 2003)

I like new punk, I just hate Thrice. In case you give a shit, I like bands like the Bouncing Souls, Bad Religion, The Nerve Agents, The Toasters, The Mars Volta... Not that you give a fuck. But yeah Rancid and the DKM own Warped tour... and Tsunami Bomb and Less Than Jake. Thrice can just go play emo metal or whatever the fuck its called, but leave me out of it. Because all this pussy emo screaming over metal, or pop punk needs to fucking die.

Assorted bands that need to be shot:
Poison the Well
Assjaw
The Casualties
One Man Army
Any band that plays new non"emo", metalcore, or nu-metal.

Sexy Pat

rightcliqificus (July 7, 2003)

i accidentally downloaded a highly produced video of simple plan playing american jesus a year ago. they spoke a bunch in french at the beginning so i guess it was some tv special or something in canada.. they got a lot of the words to american jesus wrong... thats weak, since REAL bad religion fans seem to have all their words memorized.. odd.. could it be that simple plan are gay and/or full of shit?

Anonymous (July 7, 2003)

Did someone really say that Limp Bizkit is a SKA band? They kick ass but they are too punk to play Ska.

GreenVandal (July 7, 2003)

yeah, that anonoymous person that said sexy pat was stupid, and the thing about the buzzcocks was me, i just didnt sign in for some reason. *yawn*

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

ahhhhH!!! rancid is old school and new school. they are one of the best punk bands of all time!!!! agree with me or die!!!!

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

Person below:

You are smart. Yeah, fuck Warped when there are better bands touring around the same time. For me it would have been paying twenty something bucks for three bands, and that's not worth it.

Sexy Pat: Please shut the hell up. Stop kidding yourself, seriously, what music do you like if you don't like old or new punk? Or are you one of those sad fucks who're stuck in the 80's? Yes I think you are.

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

....wow. Sexy Pat, you are not a smart man. Nothing you said applys to Thrice. Please stop pretending you know what your talking about.

I think warped tour would be 300% better if GBH and The Buzzcocks played on it and Rancid stopped.

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

doesn't anyone like rancid anymore? they were totally left out of the review, except when they were described as worse than mest (????). and what about murphys? they put on a solid set. also mad caddies were rockin. this review missed some of the best bands, frankly i was pissed when i finished reading

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

Shut the hell up. The Ramones played 3-chord pop rock. In no way did they write punk songs. Fucking Simple Plan... no wait nevermind. That's tooo harsh. My left ball is more punk rock than the Ramones.

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

"There is no proof that Thrice is better then the clash or vice versa. Its all opinion. And your statement of "older is better" is just ridiculous, which the slavery statement was ment to point out. (get it? slavery is old? but its not better? hardy-har!) I dont even know what your trying to argue. I know the clash are more important to music then Thrice. But that doesnt make them better. Thats a matter of OPINION. If you want to insult bands that are damaging music...fine, but Thrice brings nothing but positivity to music. Think what you like, just stop insulting us because we dont concur.

-GreenVandal, watching the BSD cane some random dude, and getting really confused why he is doing it"

Oh well it's arguable that Thrice is a good thing. I really don't care any more... To the guy below... You're a dumb ass, and I don't think I need to back up why... You stated it all in your comment.

-BSD, kissing his boss's ass for a promotion.

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

Ok, fuck you guys. Thrice sucks. The Clash... eh. They're.... ok. The Sex Pistols and the Ramones are two of the most terrible bands ever. Poison the Well? Please do, so this band will fucking die, and maybe every other "hardcore" band that plays metal riffs with some catchy little pussy singing that have never listened to bands like Kill Your Idols. Metal with screaming is not hardcore, it's.... well, basically it's crap.

Sexy Pat

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

At the Seattle/Gorge stop of the warped tour, Kris Roe from the Ataris got punched right in the fucking mouth by some kids who were giving the Ataris shit during their set. It was the funniest fuckin thing I have ever seen. By the time it was all said and done, he was spitting blood. I cried I was laughing so hard.

GreenVandal (July 6, 2003)

There is no proof that Thrice is better then the clash or vice versa. Its all opinion. And your statement of "older is better" is just ridiculous, which the slavery statement was ment to point out. (get it? slavery is old? but its not better? hardy-har!) I dont even know what your trying to argue. I know the clash are more important to music then Thrice. But that doesnt make them better. Thats a matter of OPINION. If you want to insult bands that are damaging music...fine, but Thrice brings nothing but positivity to music. Think what you like, just stop insulting us because we dont concur.

-GreenVandal, watching the BSD cane some random dude, and getting really confused why he is doing it

Anonymous (July 6, 2003)

"Perhaps i do know my old school punk. Perhaps i just like the newer stuff better. Unique tastes are a wonderful thing. And im telling you to shut up because you are going around trashing bands because they werent born in the 70's, while I dont insult anyone. Its pretty simple. If older is better was the truth, then id be on a plantation with my slaves picking cotton for me, while I chose who my children would marry, and beat my wife for not shining my shoes right. Things change. Older isnt always better. And just because you dont understand something doesnt make it wrong. There is no right answer here. Now stop being a dick and let us listen to our "mall punk". We obviously dont want to be "enlightened".

-Greenvandal, just totally kicked the BSD's ass verbally"

Hahaha... I fail to see the connection between old punk and slavery, or domestic abbuse, but that was funny. Five stars. Perhaps your argument is weak because you know nothing about old music. You have not shown any knowledge of the bands you say you don't like, whereas, I have. I actually DO own Thrice albums and Rancid albums. I listen to bands before I go around saying I think their genre sucks... What have you said to back up that Thrice are better than the Clash? Nothing, really, so stay out of the argument if all you're going to bring is your own biased opinion.

-BSD, just tied down GreenVandal and is beating him with a cane.

GreenVandal (July 6, 2003)

Perhaps i do know my old school punk. Perhaps i just like the newer stuff better. Unique tastes are a wonderful thing. And im telling you to shut up because you are going around trashing bands because they werent born in the 70's, while I dont insult anyone. Its pretty simple. If older is better was the truth, then id be on a plantation with my slaves picking cotton for me, while I chose who my children would marry, and beat my wife for not shining my shoes right. Things change. Older isnt always better. And just because you dont understand something doesnt make it wrong. There is no right answer here. Now stop being a dick and let us listen to our "mall punk". We obviously dont want to be "enlightened".

-Greenvandal, just totally kicked the BSD's ass verbally

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

i was at warped in calgary, avenged sevenfold has an amazing live show, they were great, highlight of warped for me.
anyways, people were throwing shit like full bottles of water and stuff at a simple plan and that's fucking rude. i don't care if you don't liek them, they're fucking playing music, having fun and out for a good time, people dont 'have to be cunts about it. i dont' like them that much but i didn't sit there and watch them, bitch about how bad they were and throw shit at them, i went to another stage. quit being retards, it's not funny because someone could actually get hurt... i hope you get hit with a full 1litre bottle. i'm impressed that they kept on playing tho. maybe one day i'll start throwing bottles at fucking.. thrice and see you guys cry about it.
lame lame lame

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

that goes the same for you as well, you have little to base your arguement on considering your the exact opposite from me, and your wrong, a lot of bands i listen to have substance and put quality into their music :less than jake, the bosstones, the rxbandits, so dont tell me theres no substance, the truth is, music and technology are related, as technology progresses, the product becomes better but the quality might regress, in music, the sound is better, but the meaning has been lost, dont act like your some g-ds gift to punk.. you have no idea, but obviously, you prefer your music, i prefer mine. im not saying mine is any better than yours, i just prefer what i hear as opposed to the clash, the ramones, etc etc.
and if you ever watched the movie rock and roll high school youd know the ramones are just a fucking joke...clash however a different story, i contrary to your beliefs, enjoy listening to them, just never really got around to listening to them, im not hating on your music i just dont like it personally that doesnt mean i have the ultimate opinion and you hafta agreee, thats what i feel

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

"Screaming metal solos are awesome. Thrice is awesome. Thrice is fun too. You my insecure friend (the bullshit detector) need to stop talking. Thrice is more talented then most of those oldschool bands. Creativity is the arguable point....and I like them better in that category too. Its just my cup of tea, so shut your fucking mouth and stop starting reasonless conflicts to further your self esteem. nice essays, too bad its all opinion.

Music should be based off quality not history."

So, basically, because your opinion differs from mine, I should "shut my fucking mouth"... Hahaha. I think I'll just write more essays to piss off you newschool embarrassments. You, my ignorant friend, fail to see the point: History and quality are often one in the same... If you honestly think that the 70's punk scene is not as good as the modern, split up, crap infested one, well, go on and think that. But, once again, please don't voice your idiotic opinion on things. I bet you haven't even very many old bands' songs, and therefor have no place to talk. Please learn musical history bfore thinking of yourself as some sort of critique... Until you do that, I'll always have the upper hand in this argument.

-BSD, winner and still champion

GreenVandal (July 5, 2003)

Screaming metal solos are awesome. Thrice is awesome. Thrice is fun too. You my insecure friend (the bullshit detector) need to stop talking. Thrice is more talented then most of those oldschool bands. Creativity is the arguable point....and I like them better in that category too. Its just my cup of tea, so shut your fucking mouth and stop starting reasonless conflicts to further your self esteem. nice essays, too bad its all opinion.

Music should be based off quality not history.

-GreenVandal

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

"lately this website has been torn apart by arguements and what not, the same arguements that have been going on for a long time: sell outs, ska vs punk, punk vs pop, emo vs punk, pop punk vs. the world, drive thru vs punknews.org etc...im sick of these arguements, everyone has an opinion and im sure, every single band out there, talented or not, ska or punk, doesnt sit at some round table with pie charts and graphs saying this music is cool and this music is not cool we wanna manipulate kids to buy our music. we wanna sell out and be on mtv... This does not happen! and if you want to fault a band for putting out the best music they can put out and having this band gain a strong fanbase then your an idiot. leave it alone, leave all the genres alone, there all good in their respective ways, and im just as guilty of this crime as everyone else, but it takes a bigger person to realize when im wrong, im the person that made that list about 1-11 i think and yeah i like third wave ska, i like punk rock, bands like midtown, movielife, reunion show, motion city soundtrack, etc. i lvoe ska in any form except vooodooo glow skulls, so if you dont like ska then fuck you, but nothing you do or say wil change it so leave it alone and ill leave your music alone, just dont pidgeonhold these bands to a certain genre, style etc... peace, julian"

Oh, big boy, give yourself a pat on the back. You're so tough for admitting you're a jackass. If I remember, you said "old school sucks"... Well, there went your credibility. Of course a fan of fuckin' pop-rock isn't gonna like real bands like the Clash, I'm not gonna bother trying to convince you that you'd like them, because you wouldn't. It's like trying to get a Britney Spears fan to like actual music... Please don't act like you like real, respectable music, though, like that ThriceequalsGod kid or Inagreendase. All the bands you like are a bunch of kids who listen to punk, and their music is rather uninspired, but hey, that's your taste. A lot of my friends only like trendy crap music, too, I don't really mind, but I don't read them bragging about it on the internet, or hear them talking about it, either.

-BSD

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

No comment
i think i want to puke

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

Stop hatin on Simple Plan, just cause they sell lots of cd's are on MTV doesn't mean they aren't punk. Nobody cares about that Bad Religion band. I have never even heard of them. They can cover any song they want because they rock.

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

sorry i mean the list 1-12, with my "opinions"

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

lately this website has been torn apart by arguements and what not, the same arguements that have been going on for a long time: sell outs, ska vs punk, punk vs pop, emo vs punk, pop punk vs. the world, drive thru vs punknews.org etc...im sick of these arguements, everyone has an opinion and im sure, every single band out there, talented or not, ska or punk, doesnt sit at some round table with pie charts and graphs saying this music is cool and this music is not cool we wanna manipulate kids to buy our music. we wanna sell out and be on mtv... This does not happen! and if you want to fault a band for putting out the best music they can put out and having this band gain a strong fanbase then your an idiot. leave it alone, leave all the genres alone, there all good in their respective ways, and im just as guilty of this crime as everyone else, but it takes a bigger person to realize when im wrong, im the person that made that list about 1-11 i think and yeah i like third wave ska, i like punk rock, bands like midtown, movielife, reunion show, motion city soundtrack, etc. i lvoe ska in any form except vooodooo glow skulls, so if you dont like ska then fuck you, but nothing you do or say wil change it so leave it alone and ill leave your music alone, just dont pidgeonhold these bands to a certain genre, style etc... peace, julian

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

"1 fuck old school punk, it sucks, i respect it, but it sucks
2 raise your hand if you think all the drive thru bands sound EXACTLY the same EXCEPT the rxbandits (even tho i like midtown and movielife)
3 simple plan and warped tour is like less than jake and newfound glory, oh wait a second! i forgot that ltj lost all of their credibility! and oh yeah! so did the warped tour!
4 screamo can kiss my white suburban ass
5 new found glory, good charlotte, sum, blink, etc. are boybands with instruments
6of all the shitty bands like that, sum41 is the only one that is bearable to listen to
7 The mad caddies review on this site was so unfair to the caddies!
8 mu330 needs a national tour BADLY
9 ska is back
10 "theres only one way to skank, its universal" Dave Karcich (rip)
11. Andrew wk is a badass mofo!
12. fuck concerts over 15 dollas!"

So what type of music do you like? I hate newschool elitist scenesters.

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

"1 fuck old school punk, it sucks, i respect it, but it sucks
2 raise your hand if you think all the drive thru bands sound EXACTLY the same EXCEPT the rxbandits (even tho i like midtown and movielife)
3 simple plan and warped tour is like less than jake and newfound glory, oh wait a second! i forgot that ltj lost all of their credibility! and oh yeah! so did the warped tour!
4 screamo can kiss my white suburban ass
5 new found glory, good charlotte, sum, blink, etc. are boybands with instruments
6of all the shitty bands like that, sum41 is the only one that is bearable to listen to
7 The mad caddies review on this site was so unfair to the caddies!
8 mu330 needs a national tour BADLY
9 ska is back
10 "theres only one way to skank, its universal" Dave Karcich (rip)
11. Andrew wk is a badass mofo!
12. fuck concerts over 15 dollas!"

How intelligent you come off as...

Fuck you and your third wave shit ska. And hardcore pop-punk.

-BSD

P.S.

Dave K. was a fuckin' moron

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

i ment to say nfg and less than jake on tour together! sorry

Anonymous (July 5, 2003)

1 fuck old school punk, it sucks, i respect it, but it sucks
2 raise your hand if you think all the drive thru bands sound EXACTLY the same EXCEPT the rxbandits (even tho i like midtown and movielife)
3 simple plan and warped tour is like less than jake and newfound glory, oh wait a second! i forgot that ltj lost all of their credibility! and oh yeah! so did the warped tour!
4 screamo can kiss my white suburban ass
5 new found glory, good charlotte, sum, blink, etc. are boybands with instruments
6of all the shitty bands like that, sum41 is the only one that is bearable to listen to
7 The mad caddies review on this site was so unfair to the caddies!
8 mu330 needs a national tour BADLY
9 ska is back
10 "theres only one way to skank, its universal" Dave Karcich (rip)
11. Andrew wk is a badass mofo!
12. fuck concerts over 15 dollas!

thriceequalsgod (July 5, 2003)

to BSD:

ive decided to stop caring what you think.

maverick (July 4, 2003)

To anyone who cares:
I'm uploading pictures right now from Warped tour. Check them out here.

-Scott

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

"okay... for the time period of the clash, they were probably better than other musicians from the same time period that we hear today,and are considered by many groundbreaking. thrice uses intricite(sp) riffs and screaming vocals to create a new type of punk that combines metalcore and punk pop at times. i for one, think the illusion of safety is a masterpiece. the musicians in thrice are all very talented (im not saying the clash weren't), but thrice just makes it more blatent."

You still don't get it... I don't dismiss Thrice because they're new... I dismiss them because they aren't very good. Musicianship has proven to be the fuckest, dumbest reason to like a band. I play guitar, and I can play actual non-power chords, so does that make me better than Joey Ramone or Joe Strummer? No...

And, plus, the fucks in Thrice could never hope to make any solos as interesting as Mick Jones's. Ultra complicated? Maybe not, but they sound really good, and not all showy offy/ screamy metally like Thrice. I don't have a problem with Thrice fans, just Thrice fans who think the Clash suck compared to post-90's trash... I'm sorry, but that's just my opinion.

Thrice are just not as fun, catchy, or real as the Clash... They're a bunch of young kids who don't listen to anything older than 20 years. A bunch of newbies.

And my opinion is that you and your opinion suck eac other at night.

-BSD

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

could someone who actually saw Rancid's set please tell us if they're playing any new songs, and if so, what they sound like?

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

I just hate simple plan because, besides playing instruments, I can't find a difference between them and NSYNC. When i was at warped in chicago, the guitarist got mugged by a bunch of screaming girls and it looked like he wanted to drown himself. I didn't feel sorry for him though, because, again, he willingly joined a band that plays more homoerotic music than loverboy.

Imposs1ble (July 4, 2003)

hey, what's grosser than gross...

a trashcan full of dead babies sitting out in the sun and one live one at the bottom trying to eat it's way out.

thriceequalsgod (July 4, 2003)

"I don't think I ever said the "your opinion sucks thing", thriceequalsgod just credited it to me for some reason."

oh.. oops. it would be impossible to find out tho.. i think i remember it being you. it was a couple months ago.

FortyMinutesWest (July 4, 2003)

I don't think I ever said the "your opinion sucks thing", thriceequalsgod just credited it to me for some reason.

inagreendase (July 4, 2003)

you definitely double-posted before, i just can't find it now. one of the 2 comments was prolly taken off by scott or whatever

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

"we all have an opinion, and mine is that your opinion sucks."

hey...thats my phrase. Dont steal my material Forty. And Thrice was here before the trend, plus they are actually not even a part of the whole scremaing emo thing because...
A) They dont write emo lyrics
B)They play metal infused hardcore indie.
C) If any of you try to use that as a new genre i will hunt you down and eat your sould because it was just a description.

Thrice is awesome, and the new record will be my saviour this summer. That is all.

-GreenVandal

thriceequalsgod (July 4, 2003)

"nice double posting."

help me out... im so confused right now

jeff024punk (July 4, 2003)

i dunno about the whole thrice thing "sounding the same as every other screaming/singing band" since i grew up in the same town as these guys and went to high school i can pretty much tell you that they have been doing it alot longer then any other band of that style.. at least that i know of.. i remember seeing them play a house party in irvine doing that stuff and it was long before the gay ass used ever even picked up a guitar.

inagreendase (July 4, 2003)

haha. probably not, but i thought that maybe you were referring to my overanalyzing post on the mars volta album

FortyMinutesWest (July 4, 2003)

Maybe he posted it thrice to be ironic.

inagreendase (July 4, 2003)

oh, and i agree with forty. plus the fact that thrice are one of the few bands whose songs don't sound the same. things like the chorus of "see you in the shallows" is/was never replicated, nor was the piano solo closing out one of the songs on IOS. and "cute poppy voices?" haha. these guys are the typical metalheads with almost-mullets from your high school, these guys have not derived their vocals from pop-punk bands at all, the closest they come is the aforementioned "syits" and sort of in "all thats left." cute and poppy are more describable for the likes of rufio (or just fuckin annoying) or starting line

inagreendase (July 4, 2003)

nice double posting.

FortyMinutesWest (July 4, 2003)

Well Thrice was around a little before that stuff was trendy, and I like Identity Crisis better than Illusion of Safety(everyone acts like that was their first album for some reason) anyway. I don't really think they sound like the other singing/screaming bands at all. I'm sure I'll catch some flak for defending this band, but I don't really care.

Anonymous (July 4, 2003)

Simple plan covering bad religion? What a bunch of jive-turkeys! i pity tha foo' who listens to simple plan!

- mr. T

Le_MAD (July 4, 2003)

Thrice ARE good musicians, but they sound the same as every other "cool" new band. They use metal riffs, they scream a lot and sing with their cute poppy voice in the chorus. I liked The Illusion of Safety for the first 2-3 times I listened to it, since their sound was really familiar to me, but I quickly realised that they brought nothing that hasn't been heard elsewhere. They also lack of diversity. (read: all of their songs sound the same) I understand that someone new to the scene could get interested by this, but come on, "a masterpiece"?

BTW, I wrote kiddo because I wanted to get your attention on the arrogance of that guy below who thinks that "without a doubt", Thrice (the flavor of the month) is "much better" than The Clash (the rock and roll legends). Hum...

thriceequalsgod (July 4, 2003)

id just like to say something else (not my comment that i forgot):

i think its funny how we're all arguing as if ther is a right answer, but its all opinion, and were all just being dicks to each other about it.. just a thought.

but then again, in the very wise words of fortyminuteswest:

we all have an opinion, and mine is that your opinion sucks.

thriceequalsgod (July 4, 2003)

okay... for the time period of the clash, they were probably better than other musicians from the same time period that we hear today,and are considered by many groundbreaking. thrice uses intricite(sp) riffs and screaming vocals to create a new type of punk that combines metalcore and punk pop at times. i for one, think the illusion of safety is a masterpiece. the musicians in thrice are all very talented (im not saying the clash weren't), but thrice just makes it more blatent.

i also had something else to say, and it was probably something that made sense, but im watching a damn movie and i forgot.. oh well

FortyMinutesWest (July 3, 2003)

What the fuck is with people saying kiddo now? It doesn't make your argument any stronger and it doesn't make you sound any smarter, it's just really annoying.

Anyway, Thrice doesn't suck, they're good musicians. Are they better than The Clash? Not in my opinion, but hey, whatever.

Le_MAD (July 3, 2003)

Ok, when I wrote my comment, the one below it still wasn't there.

"Thrice is art"

you meant "generic"

Fuck

Le_MAD (July 3, 2003)

Umm... Thrice sucks. I AM NOT (ONLY) SAYING that I dislike them. They simply suck. Yhe Clash is much better. Without a doubt. Sorry there kiddo.

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

Thrice isnt mall punk. Thrice is art. Dont dismiss music just because it is modern. Im sure the clash were considered "just a passing trend" when they started out. Hit me back in 20 years and then we will see if Thrice got remembered or not.

-GreenVandal

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

"Umm... i dislike the clash. I AM NOT SAYING you should not like them, or that they suck, I DISLIKE them. Thrice is much better. Without a doubt. Sorry there kiddo.

NOFXPunkLTJ22"

Okay, when random mall punk's opinions start to effect history in the long run, the world will really start to suck... even worse. See how many people will be listening to Thrice in thirty years, or even how many albums they'll have put out that will be remembered as masterpieces of rock...

Please, all of you saying "I've heard one Clash song and think they aren't good" kids, I challenge you to actually name the song and which album it's from.

All of the Clash albums were so diverse, let me tell you what they're all like:

S/T (UK version)- The most musically inspirational straight punk album in the history of punk rock... If you don't own this in one form or another, you really can't say you like real punk rock.

Give'em Enough Rope- Longer songs, still mostly punk, but with a reggae-ish edge. This record got shit when it came out because of supposed "over-production", but you can't hear that in a modern context.

London Calling- What most refer to as their masterpiece. They were now really out of their punk stage, evolving into a band that could play nearly any form of music... This is one of the most diverse albums ever made. This is essential in any rock collection.

Sandanista!- Here, the band's starting to fall apart... This is still a good, solid album, if not too fuckin' long. A lot of dub reggae songs, and even a few hip hop numbers. Good, but not great.

Combat Rock- This is the end of perhaps the greatest punk band of all time... And what a shitty way to go out. Not very good at all. Better in a modern context because it's not as bad as most modern pop-punk albums, but it's still pretty dissapointing to any Clash fan.

Cut the Crap- The Clash without Mick Jones or Topper Headon? Cut the crap, Joe, this album sucks.

And there you have it... Give them a try.

-BSD

FortyMinutesWest (July 3, 2003)

Papa Roach..? Hahahaha...

chscrew144 (July 3, 2003)

I must add tho.. HOW CAN ONE MISS DKM!?!?!?!?!?! Why the fuck would you miss that set????????????? Anyway even if some popier bands are making it on to warped yes its about making money, why wouldnt it be? Damn why do you think they have these things anyway? But you have to remembe that for what, 20 bucks, 25 bucks US you get to see bands all day that are pretty good.. I saw Suicide Machines, DKM, Bosstones, Green Day, Rancid, NOFX, MxPx, Papa Roach, Gob, AFI and others for like 25 bucks.. you cant beat that.. outside of warped I;d say the best show I went to was monenn, riddlin kids, brand new and face to face and that was about 20 US

chscrew144 (July 3, 2003)

Simple Plan... CanCon annoying clones of the Ataris but more pathetic.. The ataris are a decent band but after listenign to them for too long meh.. Moved on and simple plan gets played all the time while bands like the flatliners (www.theflatliners.cjb.net) and other canadian punk bands are ignored (Gob being maybe the best example of a mainstream canadian punk band)

Aside from Simple Plan it seems as though this tour may stack up w/the ones I saw in 2k and 2k1 if the comments are to be believed.

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

Everyone needs to watch anatomy of a ghost!!!!

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

Umm... i dislike the clash. I AM NOT SAYING you should not like them, or that they suck, I DISLIKE them. Thrice is much better. Without a doubt. Sorry there kiddo.

NOFXPunkLTJ22

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

Dropkick murphys

and yo're all stupid pieces of shit

sloppyblake (July 3, 2003)

the best bands were in this order.

1. face to face
2. thrice
3. rancid
4. vaux
5. poison the well

thriceequalsgod (July 3, 2003)

"www.asobrock.com .. jus correctin a typo"

what?

inagreendase (July 3, 2003)

www.asobrock.com .. jus correctin a typo

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

about the ASOB:

I was on my way from just seeing Rancid and i was heading to see Less Than Jake, when i approach this band. At fisrt i noticed the keyboardist standing on top of the keyboard playing it. And then i was taken in by there catchy ass ska punk. So, i missed most of the LTJ set, but i really dont care. They are a great band.

thriceequalsgod (July 3, 2003)

"by any chance, did any of you people that attended Warped Tour see the band called "The Arrogant Sons of Bitches"? I think THEY put on the best show. This score is for their preformance.¨

holy shit... GREAT long island ska.. they recently signed to a mass. label called kill normal records.. ive seen them live twice, and they put on an amazing show. it makes me happy to hear that people from chicago are hearing them, and i hope they blow up.

www.abobrock.com

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

oh shit i just saw the ASOB mention. yes, they are great. i've seen them um...a whopping two times now and they haven't failed me. okay that was a stupid comment but seriously they are one of the best bands i've seen live. and they are great guys with great attitudes about their scene. no one fuckin mixes genres like these dudes. they work pretty hardtoo, JT (the short guy who just yells and drinks beer onstage) is always handing out flyers at random shows and stuff, and yeah they are local but their CD prices at shows are still real cool-priced. and by cool i mean low

inagreendase

thriceequalsgod (July 3, 2003)

"Plus, you contradict yourself horribly because you say "punk isn't a sound anymore", then "the Beatles are more punk than the Clash, in sound"."

the beatles were around a long while ago, around (not the same, but around) the same time of the clash, ramones, sex pistols, whatever bands you consider to have "started punk", so i think the beatles are comparable being that they aren't anything new.

when i say there is no punk, i mean what punk was considered 15 years ago is nothing of what it is today; there isn't even one specific punk genre. its all subgenres (emo, ska, hardcore), but i guess you would consider the major genre 'punk'..

P.S. i dont remember what song i heard of the clash. it was off london calling, and it sounded like it had no guitar, but piano instead. maybe its just one song, but im not sure..

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

"Who ever wrote this review is a fucking moron "Raancid - Awful, what an ass. Have some respect for some great music even if Tim created the sorry ass transplants. "

dude, chill, it was his sister. dont be so naive you oblivious tool

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

Who ever wrote this review is a fucking moron "Raancid - Awful, what an ass. Have some respect for some great music even if Tim created the sorry ass transplants. You didn't even watch the dropkick murphy's who put on a great live set. It's morons like you that are turning the warp tour into a piece trash.

Anonymous (July 3, 2003)

by any chance, did any of you people that attended Warped Tour see the band called "The Arrogant Sons of Bitches"? I think THEY put on the best show. This score is for their preformance.

FortyMinutesWest (July 3, 2003)

Did Poison the Well play anything new? If so, how was it? I didn't like the MP3s very much.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

Being there, I'd have to say its very much alive, no matter what the fat emo girls and the Sum 41 fans would have you believe.

Rise Against, and Poison the Well added a much needed dose of hardcore. I'd also add that the all of the bands I saw were really energized and showed why they're there. Hell, the Ataris were great, even though I was surrounded by fat emo girls who listen to them way too much.

Damnit. I promised I'd stop myself before I went on a rant. Congrats to Scott on getting Warped done right. The night ended for me perfectly with a beautiful sunset after watching a stellar Thrice set.

I did manage to get out of earshot for Sum 41, so the night ended with Thrice for me.

Minor Threat

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

Is Rise Against on the main stage for the entirety of their part of the tour or were they only on it because this was Chicago?

FortyMinutesWest (July 2, 2003)

Careful with the Limp Bizkit comments, certain people can't grasp sarcasm.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

'old sugar ray is awesome. go listen to lemonade and brownies'

right on, they were throwing in turntables before the whole rap-rock bullshit. I love driving to that song 'mean machine'. that album is badass

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

Limp Bizkit is a great ska band. Warped needs to have them back again.

FortyMinutesWest (July 2, 2003)

Recipe For Hate era Bad Religion doesn't suck...

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

thrice makes me tingle where i pee

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

bEST BANDS ON WAROED:

Simple Plam

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

warp tour is offically dead. it has been for almost seven years, this was just the last nail in the coffin.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

i read this review up untill i read that simple plan covered bad religon. i just became to sick to read anymore. that era of bad religon sucks anyway, leave it to a shity mtv band to cover a shitty bad religon song and think its cool. i want to fuckin die soon.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

"goin simple on this one..

i really dont think thrice are god,
theyre just a really good band. if you listen to them, you can hear that. i am not a fan of old school, or a teeny bopper. i heard one song by the clash, and it was horrible. from that one song, and the fact that i dont really like that kind of music, i made my opinion. lets hope that im wrong on that one, because id hate to think that most the music i listen to have influences that go back to that time/genre.

i prefer newer music more than anything.. in fact i dont listen to much music at all that came out before 1990.. i do listen to some though (old nofx, br, cant think of any others)

so there you have it. you can just call me really biased, because i am. i am open to new types of music, but if i dont like it, im not gonna pretend to. sorry if i offended you, it was a stupid post that i didn't think about when i wrote, and i knew something was wrong with it when i posted it."

Biased! I don't know one Clash song off London Calling that isn't ten times better than any one Thrice song... Trust me, I have all of the Thrice albums...

Ummmm... And if you listen to the Clash, you can hear that they're ten times better than Thrice. Plus, you contradict yourself horribly because you say "punk isn't a sound anymore", then "the Beatles are more punk than the Clash, in sound"... Besides being untrue, you used "punk" as an adjective... Dirty mofo... And if you're looking for the Clash sounding "punk"... Get their first album (UK Version)

I listen to new and old punk... I love a lot of stuff besides punk, too. I'm probably one of the least biased people who use this site.

Bottom line: If you're going to judge "old school", actually listen to it. Listen to stuff before 1990 (besides Epitaph) and THEN judge it. From what you wrote, I gathered that you had maybe watched the Great Rock n Roll Swindle and heard one song off of London Calling.

-BSD

P.S.
Inagreendase, you lost your credibility looong ago.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

mest sucks. i hope they suffer violent diarrhaea for the rest of their lives.

and i also can't wait for the jade tree CMJ concert. none more black next sunday and paint it black 7/24...how sweet that shit is.

Ramo

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

"i heard one song by the clash, and it was horrible. from that one song, and the fact that i dont really like that kind of music, i made my opinion. lets hope that im wrong on that one, because id hate to think that most the music i listen to have influences that go back to that time/genre"

I'm not one to question people's opinions, but what song was it that you heard and hated? This blows me away.

jacobe

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

one problem with your review unseens songs do not sound the same but hey thats my opinion

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

old sugar ray is awesome. go listen to lemonade and brownies

inagreendase

timis (July 2, 2003)

I am just amazed with the amount of idiots that post -> 1. i told him to eat a dick 2. does anyone even know how simple plan got onto warped? cuz if it were up to me the would go fuck themselves"

immature little whiney babies....cry me a freakin river....why dont you post some intelligent posts as opposed to posting shear stupidity. for item #2. are you actually shocked simple plan got asked to play? come'on..thats a retarded question look at all the jokesters that have played on warped tour over the year -> limp bizkit, sugar ray, etc etc.....quite frankly i am not a fan of simple plan, but lets face it, simple plan and sum41 are VERY popular bands -> sell more tickets -> duh... ok i am done ranting

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

haha, the lead singer of the used called me fat and said i liked to suck dick because i told him to "eat a dick" and later had half the front row yelling kelly osbourn is fat

hahahah. i take back my previous comment about not heckling bands.

that's just hilarous, the front row..HAHAHHA. I mean that bands needs to just go away, they recorded a few songs with john feldmann and then they got like every single major label talking to them.

FortyMinutesWest (July 2, 2003)

I wanted to go to Hellfest but I probably can't now. Oh well, atleast Rise Up Fest was in Pittsburgh.

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

If Hellfest was a tour, I would attend without a doubt. I don't want to drive all the way out to New York though.

-Greg

Anonymous (July 2, 2003)

haha, the lead singer of the used called me fat and said i liked to suck dick because i told him to "eat a dick" and later had half the front row yelling kelly osbourn is fat

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

anyone who thinks warped has become a shitty tour that has lost its edge, chek out hell fest

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

does anyone even know how simple plan got onto warped? cuz if it were up to me the would go fuck themselves. i encourage everyone to boo them off the stage, make large signs displaying your dissaproval of there appearence, and write to the people doing warped that they screwed up, big time.

inagreendase (July 1, 2003)

any credibility contained within BSD's argument was dismembered after he talked about Nick Carter's penis. no one wants to hear about that, i'm sorry

thriceequalsgod (July 1, 2003)

goin simple on this one..

i really dont think thrice are god,
theyre just a really good band. if you listen to them, you can hear that. i am not a fan of old school, or a teeny bopper. i heard one song by the clash, and it was horrible. from that one song, and the fact that i dont really like that kind of music, i made my opinion. lets hope that im wrong on that one, because id hate to think that most the music i listen to have influences that go back to that time/genre.

i prefer newer music more than anything.. in fact i dont listen to much music at all that came out before 1990.. i do listen to some though (old nofx, br, cant think of any others)

so there you have it. you can just call me really biased, because i am. i am open to new types of music, but if i dont like it, im not gonna pretend to. sorry if i offended you, it was a stupid post that i didn't think about when i wrote, and i knew something was wrong with it when i posted it.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Rancid is one of the best punk rock bands out there today. Rancid 2000 wasn't a piece of trash. i guess u would think it is cuz u like glassjaw and they fuckin suck. sorry to hear that suck a great bad religion song was butchered by Simple Plan. i have seen Rancid many times and each time i see 'em, they get better and better

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Thrice equals God? Only to one sod.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

*thinks thrice are god

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

I'm sorry that I can evaluate from your childish comebacks and horrible idea of what the Clash and Pistols are that you are a teeny bopper... Which, indeed you are. I'm sorry, but anybody on a "punk site" (hahaha) who disses the Pistols and the Clash and thinks Thrice obviously does not like punk. It's as simple as that. I just read an archive review with a childish comment that fits you pretty well:

"Cut your hair you metal-ass weirdo. Your music is for geeks who feel special listening to this crap while doing their homework and feeling like the world is a terrible place because mom and dad didn't want to buy them the new GeForce 12 MX."

I think that pretty much sums up what you are and what you listen to.

THE BUG SIZED DICK OUT TO GET YA.

thriceequalsgod (July 1, 2003)

funny how you dont even know me... hypocrite

BSD? Bug Sized Dick

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"dumb comment... when are you type of people gonna realize.. there IS no true punk anymore! theres no more spirit of 'anarchy'.. i mean really, whens the last time you started a riot? all there is, is the leftovers of 'punk'. this includes "the pop-punk, emo, and metal acts". i hate people who are like "(insert orgasm noises here) SEX PISTOLS RULE! ANARCHY FOREVER!" because theyre the real fuckin posers.. plus the sex pistols sucked. they were a stupid manufactured boy band of the 70s. and the clash too.. i heard the first clash song id ever heard before.. some song off london calling, and i think the fuckin beatles are more 'punk rock' then the clash (in their sound anyway). one more thing: youre preaching to the wrong crowd if your bitching about emo, metal and punk pop on this site.."

Hahahhaa... Hopefully you're joking, buddy, because, if you weren't, you just became one. This score is for how hilarious you are as a person. "Thrice equals God"??? Hahahaha.... Oh man, you're funny... Now please go back to sucking Nick Carter's dick, poser. Remember: You KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE BANDS YOU'RE TRYING TO DISCOUNT!!! Notice how, even though I bashed them, I learned about and listened to Rancid beforehand. Randomly bashing punk based on no evidence (what you said about the Pistols) or one song (what you said about the Clash, which is so funny I nearly pissed my self) is almost as stupid as, say, a retarted orphan.

To the many who realize how idiotic Thrice equals god is: Ignorant teeny boppers are annoying, but if you look at them as a joke instead of a "threat to your scene", you'll feel a lot better. Remember: They're more afraid of you than you are of them.

-BSD

hey_sailor (July 1, 2003)

Sounds like I didn't miss much as I don't care for any of Scott's picks except for Rise Against and I'd much rather wait for a headlining tour to see them. Fuck Simple Plan for butchering Bad Religion. Seriously Warped has become a joke and it seems like ewveryone is falling for it...

evildeadalive (July 1, 2003)

This score is for thriceequalsgod.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

AFI said on their website that they wouldnt be at the Chicago show because they were already there in April, and that the only Warped shows they were going to do were the ones they missed in the Death of Springs tour.

Which doesnt explain why they are skipping Milwaukee too....damnit

TheOneTrueBill (July 1, 2003)

I think i'll go to the Milwaukee one

TheOneTrueBill (July 1, 2003)

i didn't go this year, had to work. Didn't look like i missed much, though i would have LOVED to hear the suicide machines

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"Hello Rockview" is a piece of crap compared to "Anthem".

ha! get your head out of your poop-chute.

SOYBOMB (July 1, 2003)

"real punk bands"...

hahaha, wow, that's hillarious...

OIOIROX0RzzzBELUARGGHhhhh@!H111

Peace,
-SOYB OMB-

thriceequalsgod (July 1, 2003)

"I like how you highlight the pop-punk, emo, and metal acts and totally look over the real punk bands. Good work."

dumb comment... when are you type of people gonna realize.. there IS no true punk anymore! theres no more spirit of 'anarchy'.. i mean really, whens the last time you started a riot? all there is, is the leftovers of 'punk'. this includes "the pop-punk, emo, and metal acts". i hate people who are like "(insert orgasm noises here) SEX PISTOLS RULE! ANARCHY FOREVER!" because theyre the real fuckin posers.. plus the sex pistols sucked. they were a stupid manufactured boy band of the 70s. and the clash too.. i heard the first clash song id ever heard before.. some song off london calling, and i think the fuckin beatles are more 'punk rock' then the clash (in their sound anyway). one more thing: youre preaching to the wrong crowd if your bitching about emo, metal and punk pop on this site..

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

over-look, rather.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

I like how you highlight the pop-punk, emo, and metal acts and totally look over the real punk bands. Good work.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"Rancid was pretty good though, other than the part where the green-haired guy from Mest came onstage for "Radio" and Lars told the crowd that Mest, indeed were a "punk rock" band."

Look, Rancid as a whole, I think, don't think anything of the new pop-punk trend. Lars (fashion designer extraordinaire), though, is for some reason raping all of Rancid's credibility (the little that is left over from what we'll call "the Transplants Incident) with this "we are the ultimate punk band, since Joe Stummer and Joey Ramone accepted us, and we say Good Charllote is punk!" BS.

Fact: Joe Strummer only signed to Hellcat because he loved Hepcat and wanted to be on their label.

Fact: Mick Jones never listened to an entire Rancid album, he just said he liked the songs they covered on the Clashs' many tribute albums.

Fact: Joey Ramone only said he liked Rancid to be polite in an interview that was plugging his solo record. Lars was a jackass during the interview, and kept interrupting Joey to try and play Blitzkrieg Bop for a second time

Fact: While the original '77 punk bands actually invented their own unique sound out of a wide array of influences, Rancid basically borrows the Clash/Stiff Little Fingers sound and speeds it up, in hopes that it will all turn out alright in the end.

Fact: Since most of Rancid's fans never listened to the Clash or SLF, they hear Rancid and thought "gee wiz, this is something to cream my pants over!".

Fact: Rancid 2000 was a piece of trash.

I rest my case.

-bullshit detector

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

i was here and here are some quick reviews of what i saw in the day.

Much The Same(local)- Killed it as usual

The Used - boring seeing the same set everytime

Mest - see above

Rise Against - 5th time seeing them this year and never cease to amaze me.

Mad Caddies - somthin seemed off (maybe it was all the young-uns trying to learn to skank (it wasnt happenin))

Rufio - really tight but to many prepubecent crowd surfers

Less Then Jake - didnt bother seeing them cause way to many people were there

Break The Silence - Really really tight but the sound sucked cause the Volcom stage is shit for sound.

Tsunami Bomb - sooo good. everyone needs to fall in love with this band

Thrice - simply amazing. best band i saw all day. if your not diggin them you just may be slighty retarded...

thats pretty much it. awesome day except for the $3.25 water.

Matt

CaptainCrunch (July 1, 2003)

This next song I wrote after I killed a drifter to get an erection....

mcpike (July 1, 2003)

i went to warped in indianapolis. poison the well and thrice were the best shows of the day. ptw was amazing. rancid also said on stage the new record was coming out on hellcat, but im sure if they said it was coming out on warner there woulda been a riot or something.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"edited for scott: punk-er than thou..."

Danke.

-Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(XHTM L for life)

SOYBOMB (July 1, 2003)

Andrew W.K. deserves this 10 for being such a great guy

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Seeing both Glassjaw and Andrew WK is something everybody needs to experiance.

Two of the best live bands out there even if you like the music or not.

sk8punx4evr (July 1, 2003)

that description of andrew wk is everything i'd expect from that guy. too bad he's not playing in new york, though. i might go just for rise against, even though it'd be a waste to pay like 32 bucks. and simple plan covering bad religion, that's just funny.

damn you sickboi, i'm away when explosion/pib plays here. argh!!!hhghhg

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

make sure to check out the band "Park" at the Warped tour this year too. they rule. and to the guy who said LTJ's new album is'nt great....whatever. haha. "Hello Rockview" is a piece of crap compared to "Anthem".

thriceequalsgod (July 1, 2003)

being a long islander, i fucking laughed my ass off at this:

"Glassjaw was fucking siiiiiiiiiiick, bro.

Sorry, thought I was from Long Island for a second."

thats the highlight of the review... even though its more of a preview of what im going to get on my warped... sounds pretty awesome but i dont know if i trust your sister (how old is she and what does she listen to) when she says rancid sucked

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Mad Caddies were pretty good..wish I could have seen Rise Against.
Glassjaw was definetely sick.
Sum41, even though you may not like them, always put on a great show and they sounded great on Sunday.
Andrew WK was just nuts, no more explanation needed.
Rancid was pretty good though, other than the part where the green-haired guy from Mest came onstage for "Radio" and Lars told the crowd that Mest, indeed were a "punk rock" band.
I witnessed the American Jesus cover, and let me tell you--ugly..
Thrice and Less than Jake were solid.
good show overall even though I hate it being in a damn parking lot.

sonicice (July 1, 2003)

So do we know what happened to AFI? They were supposed to play according to the Warped website but weren't on the schedule, I was a bit disappointed. Having to sit through Simple Plan to wait for Andrew WK was absolute hell though.

inagreendase (July 1, 2003)

edited for scott: punk-er than thou

(oh yeah, rapin' the italics html today!)

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

That was a good review, but what about Face to Face and Less the Jake?

KirbyPuckett (July 1, 2003)

I always find it damn hilarious when people bitch about what's on MTV and what's not.

First off, how do all you 'Punk-than-thou' kids know what's on there in the first place?

If it pisses you off, don't watch it...Simple like that.

Good review though Scott.

I wonder if I'll go to this years in Pittsburgh...Well MCS is there so...YES!

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com/
(Debating...)

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"..the new album is, eh, but they played a lot of songs off 'Hello Rockview' which was good. "

that's what i want to hearand this "show" should be another good diverse one. less than jake, suicide machines, rise against, thrice...i think they're all gonna tear shit up. at least awk will give me a good laugh.

inagreendase

Eddie (July 1, 2003)

Great review, Scott. Damn, I wish I could have gone this year...

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

this is kinda fun, last years bandlist totally slayed, it kicked so much ass and it was basically ½ of the bands this year all the other bands that aren't on this year.

With this said, people did complain last year, but not about the bands, BUT ABOUT THE FUCKING PRICE OF A WATERBOTTLE! stupid fucks.

alot of bands are playing, go rock out to the ones you like and stay the fuck out of bands you don't like. And even though i really don't like simple plan, don't throw stuff at them, that makes you even worse than them.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Yo scott i think you dropped something

Unconcerned (July 1, 2003)

An evaluation of the musical tastes/ band choices.

I've been a fan of the ataris HA.

Damone HA.

Then you don't like the unseen live b/c it all sounds the same HA what are you listening to? The ataris sound is so diverse HA.

Rise Against Gets 1/2 the star b/c they are always a fun show.

GLASJAW? I won't even go there.

Suicide Machines are good for the other 1/2 the star. Although 1/2 their music is horrid anymore they are still a great live act.

Andrew WK. The joke isn't funny anymore.

Thrice HA.

The last warped tour to go to was '98 there hasn't been a good one since. The first 3 were decent b/c they were trying something new and getting it down. The fact that this was your favorite one is a bit sad as well. You ought to be ashamed.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

This is the first year since Warped started that I will not be attending. The Explosion and Paint it Black are playing here the same day. You do the math.

-sickboi

maverick (July 1, 2003)

For all the Rise Against sound problem people:

I was onstage for their set, and what came through the monitors is more or less what I heard. It sounded good up there, I'm sorry that the sound guy fucked it up for the crowd.

-Scott

timis (July 1, 2003)

in addition to scott's review....The Used freakin killed it. Less than Jake sounded great. i thought face to face and suicide machines sounded like garbage (both bands really need another guitarist). yeah, the sound totally sucked for rise against which was a shame. Thrice, a very talented band, really got old quick. not sure if it was the end of the day or what. but the screaming got on my nerves->fast.vaux and stun were horrible. to sum it up the bands that were amazing:
less than jake
The Used
Glassjaw
Andrew WK

soulbleed (July 1, 2003)

haha that last comment was funny as hell. resistance records in 2003!

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

review some white power punk! Extreme Hatred, Angry Aryans, Blue Eyed Devils...C'mon! Their names are fuckin hilarious! Forget this moral stand (ie. we wont review hate music because were all bout lovin) and review them! Funny stuff. And hey man, im a target of their hate and they dont offend me. And yes, this is quite an appropriate place to post this.ey.

JohnnyDanger (July 1, 2003)

Grade school? Grade broke up like last year dude

thebouncingsoul (July 1, 2003)

"Mest is in one of the Good Charlotte videos. I rest my case."

that has nothing to do with anything...i dislike mest because they make audio cancer...

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

'the reason you hate simple plan is because they are on mtv, if they weren't, you just wouldn't care'

no, if they weren't on MTV and I heard them, I'd still think they suck (I unfortunately had to sit through their set before bigwig went on once.) sorry, they suck.

but anyway, Rise against tore it up in Denver...I agree, they sounded a little off at some points, but they rocked. They played on a side stage but there were a lot of people there too see them. Andrew WK was a highlight, and I think LTJ was great..the new album is, eh, but they played a lot of songs off 'Hello Rockview' which was good. Mad caddies rocked and by the time Rancid came on, I was beat. Had to watch from a distance..

GregSka (July 1, 2003)

Man I like that Andrew WK story, you are one lucky bastard

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

sorry man, actually i was in Junior High. But yeah, Whatever.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

Mest is in one of the Good Charlotte videos. I rest my case.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

Simple Plan covered Bad Religion because you touch yourself at night (abstract Family Guy reference).

I refuse to let this die.

FortyMinutesWest (July 1, 2003)

Don't fuck with coconuts.

thebouncingsoul (July 1, 2003)

"the reason you hate simple plan is because they are on mtv, if they weren't, you just wouldn't care. they were treated like crap at our show and they handled it like professionals. not too many bands can dodge shoes, water bottles and chains and not get frustrated and quit. whether you would like to admit it, they put on one of the most tight, energetic shows on the tour. this is all coming from a non-SP fan, so take it with a grain of salt...and i hope it raises your cholesterol and you die, slut."

mest isn't on mtv...most normal thinking people dislike mest also

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

i'm right with you on the rufio, glassjaw, and thrice calls.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

that's the best part, 12 is the prime age.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

"The amount of pre-pubescent gash watching these guys was absolutely amazing"

This score is for that comment.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

i hate them because they suck, touche mr. 40.

list of other things you must hate:
the hulk,
barbara streisand,
me,
pants,
mountain dew: livewire,
saliva,
coconuts,
etc.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

sorry scott and everyone who reads this, my last comment sounded offensive, but it was all in good humour (spelled with an 'o'). keep up the good reviews. have a good day sir.

FortyMinutesWest (July 1, 2003)

I hate them because they suck.

Imposs1ble (July 1, 2003)

the reason you hate simple plan is because they are on mtv, if they weren't, you just wouldn't care. they were treated like crap at our show and they handled it like professionals. not too many bands can dodge shoes, water bottles and chains and not get frustrated and quit. whether you would like to admit it, they put on one of the most tight, energetic shows on the tour. this is all coming from a non-SP fan, so take it with a grain of salt...and i hope it raises your cholesterol and you die, slut.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Rise Against sounded like crap on Sunday. The mics keep cutting out over the first few songs and they just weren't as tight as they were on Friday. Glassjaw put me to sleep. Only one song from the first CD, what the hell. A.W.K. was fun to watch, but the best bands of the day were Poison The Well and Thrice.

maverick (July 1, 2003)

Dude, I wasn't trying to knock the younger kids, I was just saying I felt a tad bit old. I'm glad you've been into good music for that long, I wish I would've been into good music in grade school.

-Scott

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

wow where was one of those big crosses when you need them to crush that crappy band, simple plan. oh yeah, i hope you be a big brother and wash your sis eyes out with holy water from that bowling for soup set. i'm tempted to go to the Warped when it hits nyc but some of the bands i want to see (ex.Rise Against, Suicde Machines) i rather see in a venue.

Ramo

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

i would just like to say that yes i did attend the 97 warped... and YES i was still in Grade School. So what? I am sorry if i am not as punk as you!

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

Good not god. Whoops-ah-daisy.

-Greg

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

I'm glad I live in Milwaukee and the tour didn't come just a little farther north. So instead of seeing it as is now, I get to see it with Brand New, Motion City Soundtrack, and Me First And The Gimme Gimmes. Hoo rah for Wisconsin.

-Greg

P.S. If anyone is going to the stop in Milwaukee, go see Farewell To Twilight on the Ernie Ball Stage, they're really god and super cool guys.

FortyMinutesWest (July 1, 2003)

Simple Plan covering Bad Religion? I wish nothing but death upon that band.

Anonymous (July 1, 2003)

If you go to the Warped Tour this year, see the band Letterkills. Wow. Sooooooo good. There were like three bands (The Used, S.T.U.N. and Matchbook Romance) in the crowd just to see them. They're at the Kevin Says stage (the white tent). Peace.

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