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Rancid: IndestructibleIndestructible (2003)
Warner Music Group

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Nothing like a big fat controversy to prove you're following the punk scene. Circumstances surrounding this release aside, Indestructible finds Rancid sticking to formula, which considering the diversity of everything they recorded in the past 6 years is rather surprising. In many ways this r.
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Nothing like a big fat controversy to prove you're following the punk scene.

Circumstances surrounding this release aside, Indestructible finds Rancid sticking to formula, which considering the diversity of everything they recorded in the past 6 years is rather surprising. In many ways this record sounds like a b-sides compilation.

More than half the songs on Indestructible mirror the feel and musical themes of past Rancid albums. The ska rhythms of "Red Hot Moon" and the riotous sing-along "Spirit Of 87" could have been leftovers from the Life Won't Wait sessions. The speedy "Out Of Control" and gangster tribute "David Courtney" similarly would have fit in on Rancid 2000. "Born Frustrated" or "Back Up Against The Wall" are easily comparable to the melodic tunes on ?And Out Come The Wolves. Thankfully the range those three albums spanned allows the band to tread back across their history without bogging down the album in too many similar sounding tunes.

While not breaking a ton of new ground, Rancid does refine their song writing in several ways. While "Fall Back Down" and "Start Now" are unabashedly poppy, Armstrong's dancehall influenced chorus' and smart arrangements easily propel the songs above the radio fodder they'll compete against. The surf guitar and toasting on "Memphis" are also a new turn for the band. "Stand Your Ground" is perhaps the albums most interesting track, its' tribal percussion mirrors the African-themes of Joe Strummer's material with the Mescaleros.

Rancid went through a rough year prior to this release, so it's understandable that they may have gravitated towards a safer record to counter some of the chaos in their personal lives. While I miss the amped up, scappy energy from their 2000 offering, this will likely be a "feel good" album for anyone who grew up with Lets Go! in constant rotation. To Rancid's credit, the formula they're following is a pretty solid one. Tim Armstrong is essentially a traditionalist at heart: everything he's written for Rancid has been steeped in classic punk influences, from The Clash through the Specials to Black Flag and everything in between. Rancid exists on a very base level as a group of friends deeply in love with punk rock. Thankfully for us, they pay tribute to it rather well.

 

 
People who liked this also liked:
Rancid - ... And Out Come The WolvesRancid - Let's GoRancid - Life Won't WaitOperation Ivy - Operation IvyBad Religion - SufferAgainst Me! - is Reinventing Axl RoseNOFX - Punk In DrublicThe Clash - London CallingRancid - Rancid (2000)The Lawrence Arms - Oh! Calcutta!

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majorthreat (October 29, 2011)

This album would be better if it didn't sound so mainstream. The song Memphis should have never seen the light of day

Alien (December 9, 2009)

hmm.. every rancid album for me has 3-4 songs that are great and about 15 mediocre ones. I just can't get into this stuff

zombiewreckingcrew (February 7, 2008)

It seems most of the comments on this record are saying either Rancid sold out or didn't, without looking at how good the songs actually are.

I got this album the day it came out and listened to it straight away, loved it immediately, and listened to it at least once every day for the next six or seven months. It's still in my cd player pretty regularly. At the time, i loved it as much as out come the wolves and any other Rancid record. say what you want, Tim's postitive and optimistic attitude that comes through on the songs about his time with Brody helped me deal with breaking up with my girlfriend.

Though after hearing the record a million times, I'd have to say i prefer out comes the wolves, this is definitely still as good as any of the other Rancid albums, and i think the mix of styles works better than on Life Won't Wait. the songwriting is just amazing - I don't think Rancid could put out a bad record if they tried. People complain that Fall Back Down is too poppy as if the whole cd is like that, but that is the most mainstream song on the album and it's a good song anyway so who gives a shit if its poppy? There's still aggression with Out of Control and darker songs like David Courtney (the only less than great song i reckon) and Travis Bickle (fuckin ace!).

also it seems like all the people who are giving this record a half star rating (which makes me laugh - how can you call yourself a punk rocker or a fuckin music fan and insult this album?!) are all saying they hope Rancid should die for putting their video on MTV (even though that's been happening since out come the wolves) and that they've sold out totally for signing a distribution deal with Warner, even though that's only gonna help Rancid records get into shops, which can only be a good thing. Why do these people want to deny success to the one band who deserves it most? Rancid have been putting out A grade punk rock since 1993 and deserve more recongnition and success than anyone. Putting a video on MTV is not selling out, it is spreading a message and possibly getting more people into punk, which also can never be a bad thing. Selling out is changing your whole sound and image to get mainstream success (look at AFI for a perfect example of this!). Rancid are still the same awesome band they always were and this is an awesome record!

Check out the b sides and c sides CD as well, it's fuckin amazing!

Hated (September 4, 2007)

To the guy somewere down under me...
How the fuck can you call Good Charlotte sellouts when they weren't eaven punk in the first place? They have allways been posers.

Rancid have souldout. Tim is on MTV with Travis Barker, Lars appears in some Hiphop musicvideo called "What I Can't Describe" (Transplants) and they're on Warner.
But I will still listen to all Rancid's albums besides Indestructible.

indiandog (January 19, 2007)

Rancid kicks ass
Greenday use to be cool before american idiot,they went from being a crazy punk band to a wana be emo band
a tour with rancid and green day would be sweet though...

Anonymous (June 12, 2006)

rancid didnt sell out by signing to warner. they've been in this scene for so many years now, and have worked so hard to get where they are now, they deserve a lil bit of cash. and green day are the same way. actually, for you dipshits who didnt know, the guys in green day have been playing with tim and matt since they were in op ivy. and both bands are good friends. they are from the same area and both blew up at the same time and have supported each other ever since. people just like green day more than rancid. big deal. i can understand where people might say green day are sell outs. but i dont think they are. at least they aren't as bad as good charlotte. now you wanna talk about sell outs, then theres the band for you.

clash_city_rocker (April 30, 2006)

Fuck Jesus. This album is great.

clash_city_rocker (April 30, 2006)

Fuck Jesus

Anonymous (April 10, 2006)

Jesus why are they in the dark so much???? I cant wait 3 years or more to wait for a cd by them? does anyone in this world knows whats the lastest on them is???? The cd is great!!!!!!

noxious (April 2, 2006)

this album is awesome.this is for RANCID punx

Anonymous (March 26, 2006)

First of all, this album is stunning. In terms of songwriting it is unrecreatable. If you have any exprience at writing songs you will know what I mean. Second, In terms of selling out, maybe rancid got greedy, but they havn't gone too far and the real crime in selling out is misreprisenting punk in order to make money, for example, greenday are not punk, but happily accept the title and exploit it to make money. It is irresponsible of bands like greenday to confuse and distort punk by reprisenting it as somthing it is not. Rancid, on the other hand, have not done this. They have lived punk, understand it and reprisent for what it is. To me, punk is about anti-ignorance, open-mindedness, saying 'fuck you!' and being proud of it. Rancid are a very specific type of band. They are very individual in terms of sound, lyrics and attitude. Their approach and view of punk not easy to understand unless you know punk and have a place for it in your soul, so don't be so quick to judge.

Anonymous (March 26, 2006)

So many of you people are so stupid. Jesus Christ

thejoshbennett (January 11, 2006)

i love rancid man, i just wished they didn't go with warner ya know.

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

good charlotte is gay!!! why is that guy in the Fall back down video

GREENDAY SUCKS COCK!!!!!!!

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

Feeling a bit relaxed when i read this said by Lars:
"We have absolutely no complaints with Hellcat. Yes, we are considering additional support that Warner Bros. might be able to provide, but whatever happens, we're sticking with Brett [Gurewitz of Epitaph]. All I care about and all I have is my music, my bandmates and my band. We are going to do whatever we need to do to survive."

But it's still not good to be on Warner.

Anonymous (February 13, 2005)

The album is great, the second best so far (...Wolves is the best ofcourse). But there's a BUT, even two but's. Why the fucking hell are they doing a video and puting it on MTV, well I not too bothred by that, BUT when fucking Kelly Osbourne (what a JOKE) and fucking Good Charlotte-fashion punk fuck are in the video, thats when you start to get pissed off. Second but is why they even think the thought of co-working with Warner, thats sux hard, really hard... I hope that they will relize their mistake and say fuck off to Warner and stop hanging out with Osbourne-teen and GC-fucks.

But still, its a hell of and album... Can't dislike Rancid even if they are hanging around with idiots...

Hoping for a new album shortly, does anyone know if they are recording or planing a new album soon?

Cheers. P from Sweden

Anonymous (November 24, 2004)

all rancid albums are 10
we just hold them to a higher standard

Punkrocker507 (October 21, 2004)

FALL BACK DOWN REALLY GOT ME THROUGH TOUGHT TIMES you fucking clit face your a queer

Punkrocker507 (October 21, 2004)

For all you queers who think rancid is a sellout band because they went on tv, FUCK YOU. you all are a bunch of clit faces who doesnt like good music anyways FAN for life

MLF punkrocker for ever

Anonymous (October 9, 2004)

Also, why the hell are we spending our lives analyzing a bands decision making skills? Whatever decision they made it fucking fine with me, atleast the distribution will be better. How do you even know they did it for money? Maybe they actually WANTED more distribution for more people to have a chance at the cd. What good is a message that isn't heard?

Anonymous (October 6, 2004)

Fall back down REALLY helped me to get through a tough time with my friends...

Yeah, I know... call me a pussy.
It affected me.

Anonymous (July 5, 2004)

"I'm happy Warner distributed this, because I can find it in Korea. Try asking at any Seoul record shop for the new Larry Arms, it's a fucking disgrace"

that is all that needs to be said... very intelligent comment. this should shut up the "sellout" haters

Anonymous (March 10, 2004)

worst rancid album ever...but some very good songs...actually i dunno

Anonymous (March 6, 2004)

if being on TV makes a band a sellout, rancid sold out way the fuck back when ...and out come the wolves came out. timebomb and ruby soho were hits on MTV...

this record is certainly not the best...everyone should just go buy Let's Go...and listen to that

Anonymous (March 4, 2004)

O.K. dumbshit who hates Rancid cuz they were on TV your fucking lame, you trendy ass fucker. Your just another one fo thsoe lame asses who are like oh that bands on TV...time to be cool and hate them now, its so stupid. who cares what the band does its up to them, as long as Rancid keeps on putting out GREAT cd's i will buy them, they were one of the first punk/ska bands i ever got into and i support them 100%. as for the rest of you who think they sold out and are going to bitch about it grow the fuck up, nothing is punk anymore, there are so many posers and trendies now its not even fit. Any ways, this album is great GO BUY IT!

Anonymous (February 19, 2004)

Greatest band of all time

Anonymous (December 26, 2003)

This album is very good. But everybody is fucking good charlotte. Thats write GOOD CHARLOTTE IS CHILDPUNK. BUT thats no reason to fuck off Rancid. They don't sound anything like Good Charlotte. O yeah, that guy who hates Rancid because it was on television... Dude what are you doing. They are on television, so? Whats your problem. I think that you didn't mean that. I think you are such a asshole that wants to be "cool". And don't write your email address, so you can't be calling names. hahaha nerd.

Anonymous (December 24, 2003)

That guy who hate Rancid beacause it was on television is a stupid motherf***er. He hates it beacause it is knows by everyone. But here in the Netherlands it is very different. Know one knows Rancid. They don't even know blink 182. So your opinion is bullsh**. You like the cd for the music. Not that ereyone listening to it.

Anonymous (December 16, 2003)

Fuck all you fucking hating you so-called rancid "fans". Rancid have been at it for at least a decade and they know what there doing. What does it matter if they sign to a bigger label(read:warner) they still have the same energy as in all of their records. All you haters just shut the fuck up and go on with your life. Youll dont know shit about being in the business

-djc:punk for life

Anonymous (November 11, 2003)

I read that someone on here hated the guy singing at the end of 'red hot moon'. I actually thought for a second that it was jesse from op ivy making a guest appearance. I guess not. I didnt really listen to the actual lyrics. Anyhoo, was anyone else fooled for a second?

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

did you see good charlotte in that video that's some funny shit

i've always hated rancid, and i still do

tim and matt should have quit after op. ivy

Anonymous (October 31, 2003)

you're all a bunch of cunt faces.You either like the music or you don't simple as that. it doesn't matter what label they're signed on to as long as theyre making music. and yet you sit there and call them sell outs if you think about it every band is a sell out because they sell cd's and make shirts and shit

Anonymous (October 28, 2003)

FUCK RANCID!

I cant believe this, i walk into my house after getting home from a party, i thought i was going to have a good nights sleep until i saw "Fall Back Down" on the tv.

I cant believe these guys. I have listened to these guys for so long and now they go and put their video on tv.

I thought it was bullshit at first. i just could not fucking believe it. so fuck them thay can stay on tv with all the other shitty fucked up sellout bands and even niggers too. thats just fucked up. goodbye to this band

Dude they hsve been on mtv since lets go!.This album is awesome one of rancids best.I think broady leaving him inspired him to write good music.I ahve always been a rancid fan and they neevr dissapoint me.

Anonymous (October 13, 2003)

I could see Rancid doing a fucking Pepsi commercial. Drink Pepsi. MMMM....Pepsi. Sooo goood. Don't think, just drink Pepsi...Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't think, Don't.....

Anonymous (October 12, 2003)

"They didn't need to sign onto a record label, neither did The Ramones, The Talking Heads, Blondie, Sex Pistols, none of them. They could've all gotten their music across without being on an independant. Thousands of others band did it. It's called "DIY". Most punk bands in the late 70's, and 80's weren't on anything major. Social Distortion? Bad Brains? Bad Religion? Yeah, the list goes on and on."

You're comparing the 1976 music industry to the one of 1980, jackass... The Weirdos were DIY, alright, and look at how many people remember them... Not fuckin many, and thats a shame considering if they hadn't been with a cheapo indy they could have easily have been as popular as the Clash. Same with the Germs...

Indies back then were either really, really small rip off companies or sub divisions of majors... So learn your shit, kid. Before early 1978 there was almost no other way but getting ripped by and indie or ripped by a major... And look at the music of the 2nd wave DIY bands... It sucks.

-BSD

Anonymous (October 6, 2003)

I'm happy Warner distributed this, because I can find it in Korea. Try asking at any Seoul record shop for the new Larry Arms, it's a fucking disgrace

Anonymous (October 3, 2003)

I hate Rancid . . . and Pennywise

That's the gist

Anonymous (October 3, 2003)

One more thing about the "punk elitists". First, I doubt you'll still be a punk fan when you're 38 like Tim. Second, if you're such a purist, FORM YOUR OWN BAND and then you'll have some room to talk. Struggle for years, travel in a drafty van thru snowdrifts, persevere through critical and commercial indifference, and then tell us you give a hoot about "sellouts" and who is friends with whom and what label a band is on. And what about all the bands that have been helped by Hellcat/Epitaph? What about Hellcat being the last refuge for a legend like Joe Strummer? What about all you elitists just shutting up and accepting "different strokes for different folks?" You'll be in your suburban home, voting Republican, driving SUV's and having no heart left just like all the bandwagon jumpers of the early 90's. The rest of us, we'll still be listening to and being punk in our hearts.

Texetz

Anonymous (September 29, 2003)

to the guy under me: i would like to agree, but it just can never happen.

im the same way, i dont care whose on what label,as long as their music is good enough for my ears, and i fucking love rancid; always have, always will.

Anonymous (September 28, 2003)

Why can't all musical genres be consolidated into one genre just called "music"? Why do we have to deal with these elitist punks who care so much about what label a band is on? I could give a rat's ass as to what label this album is on, it still rocks. I personally don't like Good Charlotte myself, but they're doing their thing, and obviously enjoying it, so chill. I don't understand why some people feel like each person has to fall into a specific genre, like "punk" or "emo". Just like whatever you want, who cares?

-ZDP

Anonymous (September 25, 2003)

To the Guy beneath me:

If you think "PUNK IS DEAD" then why the fuck are you here? And plus, Punk is the most popular it's ever been since the early nineties. I'm not just talking about mainstream either. Alot of Indie bands are thriving right now.

To the guy beneath the guy beneath me:
I agree, Freeman does kinda fade into the background.

Anonymous (September 25, 2003)

A Fucking Stab In Back, they sell out in worst way- not being hnest about wih their fucking fans. Instead they fucking put fucking kelly osbourne that fat bitch and that queer benji from the NOT punk in the slightist Good Harlot. You Fucking whore for Hot Topic. Oi! Rancid will burn in hell. There a band on the way out despreately trying to grab poser fans from good charlot and kelly and as much money before they self destruct and i hope they do. There almbum was medocore at worst and at best inconsistant. Stop bitching about your wife and write songs that fucking matter. PUNK IS DEAD

Anonymous (September 24, 2003)

I have very mixed feelings about this cd. When I bought it, I listened to it once, then didn't listen to it for about 2 or 3 weeks. Then I really got into this album and I listen to it almost everyday. I don't know if I'm in the "greatness period" an earlier commenter made, but whatever, I'm enjoying it. My only two concerns are, for one, they seem stylisticlly all over the place here, maybe trying to recapture the magic of "Life Won't Wait", or "AOCTW", but then again, they do sound damn good doing it. My only real complaint is how Matt Freeman seems to be buried at the bottom of the mix, sometimes coming through as just a hum in the background. Otherwise, one of my favorite albums of the year so far.

-ZDP

Anonymous (September 24, 2003)

um...RANCID didnt sell out, they havent even signed to WARNER. All WARNER does ( i think;im pretty sure) is have SOME distibution rights and they pay for music videos (on MTV its says Hellcat/Warner Bros. on the label part of the introduction of the song) LOOK ON THE FUCKING CD CASE, JACKET or CD ITSLEF!!! NO FUCING MENTION OF WARNER AT ALL! its still on hellcat!

Transplants kick ass and so does the song "Fall Back Down" on MTV from "Indestructable"

Only reason people say they hate that song is because its on the radio..SOMETIMES....and thats totally hypicritical of anyone to say that, 'cuz if it wasnt on the raio or MTV they, of course, would love it.
it has a great fucking guitar solo and bridges and is a helluva catchy tune and is written very well.
"punk elitists": GET OFF YOUR FUCKING HIGH-HORSES AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

Anonymous (September 10, 2003)

i agree, good album not enough lars.

Anonymous (September 9, 2003)

There's not enough Lars on this though. Rancid has made a name for themselves by having one-two punch vocals with Lars and Tim. Otherside is the only song that took advantage of having two lead vocalists and it's one of the best if not the best song on the album. Matt Freeman doing vocals on atleast one song would've been nice too.

Anonymous (September 5, 2003)

First, Tim Armstrong has always been influenced by hip hop. You can tell when he was in Op Ivy - his vocals and his image. He always did some rapping instead of singing in everyone of his albums. He was raised in a gangster lifestyle and grew up with black kids. He is original and The Transplants are one hell of a band. Yes they did sign to a major and because of that more people know about them. All my friends that knew nothing about Rancid before now have seen their video and do enjoy them. That was the whole reason... MORE EXPOSURE. THey are friends with Benji and Kelly and they have always been true to not giving a fuck about what people think about them or their friends. THey don't give a shit what you "elitist punks" care. RANCID IS BACK AND THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS IN RECENT YEARS. I own anyone of you teenage morons who think they know something. Selling Out is just bullshit.

Anonymous (September 5, 2003)

"i havent listened to this one yet, but i want to make a comment on the whole 'warner' issue. I remember 2 years back at the warped tour, right before they broke into 'radio', lars went into this whole schpiel about how the 'major label bands' arent keeping it real and such, and that they could still be good on an indie label. Now, after this busting on the major label bands, they go and sign to warner. Go figure."

It was always only Lars badmouthing major labels. In my opinion, I think I think it was really Tim who pushed for signing with a major label. I don't think Matt and Brett really care. Lars can't really complain or anything publically because that would condradict their whole "we're a family" image.

Also, in every recent picture I've seen of Tim he's wearing a hat. I have a theory that he's actually balding but doesnt' want it shown. He is getting pretty old. 38 y/o now I think.

Anonymous (September 1, 2003)

i havent listened to this one yet, but i want to make a comment on the whole 'warner' issue. I remember 2 years back at the warped tour, right before they broke into 'radio', lars went into this whole schpiel about how the 'major label bands' arent keeping it real and such, and that they could still be good on an indie label. Now, after this busting on the major label bands, they go and sign to warner. Go figure.

Anonymous (August 29, 2003)

What the fuck is everyone freaking out about Rancid selling out for? so they are on mtv so fuckin what! I've been listening to rancid for nine years and i remember seeing not only Salvation on MTV but Timebomb and Ruby Soho as well. Yeah the new acquaintences are troubling, but the music is the same and that, you fake ass fans should realize, is all that matters.

LushJ (August 27, 2003)

Finally got a copy, this is a rad record. It's all around the map, not mono-snarl like Rancid 5, or all loopy like "Life Won't Wait". I dig it!
P.S.- This record is a split release between Hellcat and Warner. One record deal. Warner is doing a lot of things for the record, including promotions (hence the ball game appearance and the 80 copies at Best Buy mentioned below). Hellcat is still owned by Tim and Mr. Brett as a subsiduary of Epitaph.

Anonymous (August 27, 2003)

I like this album. It is probably my fave rancid album too. I dont care what all you say but "fall back down" is the best song on the cd. It's just a fun song and thats what i like about rancid.

Anonymous (August 27, 2003)

oh man .. don't you people have lives? shouldn't you be outside doing something cool? really .. kelly osbourne, the transplants, good charlotte, indie labels, selling out, radio play, influences, this album sucks/rules .. are you serious? my god, this is like a sewing circle. here's an idea: go outside and do something .. if you like the album, go tell someone about it, listen to it loudly in the car, go to the show .. if you don't like it, don't listen to it.

Anonymous (August 27, 2003)

oh, for fuck's sake...if i had a nickel for every time i've heard someone call a band that reaches a certain level of popularity "sellouts", i'd have a shitload of nickels. stop whining. it's fucking music- you either like it or you don't. basing your feelings about music on the personal lives of the band itself if just plain dumb.

it's a good record- plain and simple.

Anonymous (August 27, 2003)

You know what's tiresome? "Their first album was their best". Get a new line, Jack. Half the time, it's wrong, anyway.
I for one ain't complaining that Rancid's still rockin'.

Texetz

Anonymous (August 27, 2003)

I'm trying to find a way to get that fat asshole, Rob Whoever to be muted on the 3rd track while the music in the background continues so that I don't have to skip the last 45 seconds of the track entirely . If you have any idea how to get this obnoxious fuck from being heard on an otherwise awesome record, please lemme know. "Folding Bills"?! What the fuck? This guys is a joke.

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

1. The Review- I thought this album was decent. As the original review said, Rancid haven't made any major musical changes with this album. They have a good mix of songs on here which seem to span their entire careers, although I do miss some of the harder, faster songs like ones off Rancid (2000). Good album, but it's nothing groundbreaking.

2. Since Warner had nothing to do with the production of "Indestructible" They opted to keep their name off the album. Rancid signed onto Warner after the album was finished.

3. The Limited edition of "Indestructible" is the same album, but it just has a T-shirt and patch.

4. For those complaining about Rancid going mainstream, In 1995 with the release of "Out Come the Wolves.." their singles where played quite regularly on MTV. When punk stops being popular, Rancid will stop being popular as well. In 1995 punk was quite popular with bands like Greenday and The Offspring.

5. About the guy from GC being in the video, Rancid's "excuse" for associating with "poser punks" is that in the years to come these bands will be remembered as the face of punk. They say they were once like them when they were first coming into the scene and veterans like The Clash embraced them and helped them like how they are now to bands like GC. Think about it, when people look back on punk 5,6 years in the future what most people remember are GC, Sum41, Simple Plan, and etc.

6. About Tim's British "accent". He listens to alot of Brit music so it's only natural that he whether unconciously or not, he mimics them. He practically sees Joe Strummer as a God.

Well, I think I covered everything.

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

"and out come the wolves" sucks,
"life won't wait" is there best album
and this new one is decent.
back up against the wall is awesome.

strike anywheres album will probably top
everything this summer, right next to
"streetcore"

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

Once again, what does hanging around Kelly Osbourne have to do with the actual music?

Nothing.

And for the argument of "Well, THe Clash didn't have much of a choice being on an indy! There were no indy labels out there!". That's pure and utter bullshit.

They didn't need to sign onto a record label, neither did The Ramones, The Talking Heads, Blondie, Sex Pistols, none of them. They could've all gotten their music across without being on an independant. Thousands of others band did it. It's called "DIY". Most punk bands in the late 70's, and 80's weren't on anything major. Social Distortion? Bad Brains? Bad Religion? Yeah, the list goes on and on.

Being on a major shouldn't have anything to do with the actual music itself and I love all those formentioned bands but don't give me that bullshit on how they "didn't have a choice".

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

Yes, Rancid has gone downhill, explain the TRANSPLANTS. And you mean to tell me that they are friends with kelly osbourne? she is like 17, thats pathetic.

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

too many f-words

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

you people are such morons. if a band evolves they are sell-outs, if they keep the same sound they are boring.

every rancid album coming out, same old story...

well they where never your fucking toy to begin with.

you like the music, go buy the album. you don't like ignore it like all the rest of the shit you don't like.

i never quite realised there was a set of rules to play with?!?!? so what if the album gets airplay??
either the album is on hell-cat.

ok. it's not as strong as much of their previous work, but this album rocks!!

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

Shit.... typos are punk rock. Yeah... yeah... that's the ticket.

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (August 26, 2003)

I'm not denying they are influential, I'm deny that they are the most influential punk band of all time, as was previously stated. Come on, that's just stupid. You gotta admit...

Yes, their first album was their best, with Let's Go coming in at number two. Number three? There hasn't been one yet. The rest all bore me. Sorry.

People really need to stop with the "The Pistol's, Clash and Ramones were all on majors too" arguement. You tell me what independent labels they should have signed with. I also don't remember any of those bands publicly saying they would never sign to a malor. I don't think the whole major label backlash with Rancid is so much with them signing, but with them being liars and hypocrytes.

Thank you, and goodnight.

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

this cd kinda sucked the first s/t was there best cd ever

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

"3) Yes, they are on a major. But so were The Clash, The Ramones, The Sex Pistols and just about any other of your punk gods."

That was back when "indie" labels were just off-shoots of big name labels. Punk bands didn't reall have a choice. Though I think they suck a lot, look at NOFX. They are probably as popular, if not more so than Rancid, and they have never had to sign to a major, make a radio friendly song to release before the album so teeni boppers will eat it up, or had "friends" like Good Charllote and Kelly Osbourne in videos on MTV rotation... By the way, Joe Strummer signed to Hellcat because he thought Hepcat were the best band around, not out of respect for Rancid. I don't care if they are an influence on modern bands, most modern bands suck. They are simply mascarading as "punk" when their musical unoriginality and blandness totally contradict what punk is all about...

-BSD

-BSD

corporatedoug (August 25, 2003)

Let's get a few things straight:
1. BSD- Rancid don't deny that the Clash are huge influences. Tim Armstrong has openly said that the Clash were his favorite band as a kid. Rancid simply defends a lot of the lame ass Clash comparisons that people love to make, especially when they first started making them when "Let's Go" came out. "Let's Go" doesn't sound a fucking thing like the Clash.
2. BSD- I think it's safe to say that along with Mick Jones, Joe Strummer had much respect for Rancid. If he didn't, he probably wouldn't have signed to Hellcat. Take a look at the Rancid movies on the site. You'll notice that's Mr. Strummer with Tim....What about the fucking Ramones? The only reason they played Lollapalooza a few years back is because Rancid was on the bill with them and they were tight...
3. Punk bands haven't turned their back on Rancid. It's all the assholes on this site who think that it's cool to be punk elitists. It doesn't do shit for your credibility. You've got a bunch of motherfuckers on this site who feel the right to criticize a band and question their credibility. That's fine. I'll say this though: Rancid, in my mind, have contributed 10 solid years of music to the punk community. What the fuck have any of you done? And to answer your rebuttle beforehand, I haven't done shit either. But I'm not a guy who is fucking blessing who is punk and who means what to the scene. Grow up. This is an amazing album.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

And to the people who bitch about them getting air play:

Where the fuck where you in 95-96?

And to the people who bitch about them hanging around GC or Kelly Osbourne:

What the fuck does that have to do with the actual music?

Fucking A, you people are morons sometimes.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

Someone explain to me how Rancid has "gone downhill"?

1) The release a record that pleases any type of Rancid fan. They have the hard, the ska, the fast and a little bit of the pop.

2) They have continually evolved over the years.

3) Yes, they are on a major. But so were The Clash, The Ramones, The Sex Pistols and just about any other of your punk gods.

4) But they are also on an independant and still work with Epitaph.

5) They've always done things their way and will continue to do so.

Someone please explain to me what's wrong with this picture.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

"albums of the year:
1. Brand New - Deja Entendu
2. Mars Volta - Deloused In The Comatorium
3. Dropkick Murphys - Blackout
4. Rise Against - Revolutions Per Minute
5. Rancid - Indestructible
6. Less Than Jake - Anthem
7. Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning
8. O.A.R. - In Between Now and Then
9. AFI - Sing The Sorrow "

Mars Volta is the best record of the year, and i agree with rise against being up there and strike anywhere will definitely be near the top once that record hits. Brand New, Trio, LTJ, RANCID and AFI are not in the top ten. All of these bands are going down hill(actually brand new was never good and neither was LTJ sory my silly little ska people)...hmm...RANCID=DOWN HILL! Yes, these guys are way too old, and yes, they are annoying even though Matt is obviously a very good bassist, but no one else in the band has credibility...especially Tim and Lars, i mean just watch the music video, starts off with the "punx" shit on one of their knuckles...it should piss a lot of people off but maybe i'm the only one, its not about the music with this band anymore, its all about punk rock credibility and their image-Just ask Kelly Osbourne and Fucker from GC, they're in the video. And if i see this cd in stores for 18$ one more time i'll flip out, and if i see it at best buy for 25$ with a shirt inside the packaging i'll laugh again like i did the first time. Just stop making music please, and Matt can join a band that makes real music. Peace- T-Dizzle

GreenVandal (August 25, 2003)

...luckily for me, we have pennywise and hatebreed to look forward to.

Yeah. Okay. Try going to www.genericbrainlessboringshouldhavegaveupafterthere2ndalbumtrock news.org

much more suitable place for your unique tastes.

GreenVandal (August 25, 2003)

"isn't it better to not influence at all if you influence 'bad' music? just seems like you don't have a redeeming point."

LOOK...the point of the argument is , are Rancid influential or not. Its not do they influence good music, bad music, underground music, kittens, your mother, and hobos. Its if they are influential to todays crop of bands. Which they are. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you.

Jeebus H mother fucking christ. I gotta wonder if you kids read the letters on the screen sometimes.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

i cant think of one good album this year so far

...luckily for me, we have pennywise and hatebreed to look forward to.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

Any top albums of the year list has to include the Swingin' Utters.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

tha liars album came out in 2001, but it got rereleased by mute in 2002, so most lists included it on the 2002 list.

i'd probably go with the blood brothers, lightning bolt, microphones, probably the new pretty girls make graves, ted leo, black eyes, broken social scene, and prefuse 73. most of the stuff i bought this year was released awhile ago.

dignin (August 25, 2003)

oh yeah, and maybe the liars, and mars volta. Among my biggest disapointments is saves the day, alkaline trio, afi, and thrice.

dignin (August 25, 2003)

"1. Rise Against
2. Postal Service
3. Cursive"

thats a good list, but rise against would probably be lower in my top ten
I also think blood bros., radiohead, and possibly the new cat power belong on mine too.

Anonymous (August 25, 2003)

lets get a few things straight...and out cme the wolves will never be topped. most bands don't even come close to recording something so classic. that being said this is just a collection of more good songs from one of the best punk acts ever,even if harcore-old school-or "enlightened" punk fans don't like to admit it.i think rancid's biggers influence is and has always been rancid.they build on a sound they have already made and progressed.freemne is the best bassist i've ever heard in a punk band but he needs to stay on background vocals,sorry guys.and rancid and good charlotte shouldn't even be used in the same sentence.
brian

funkisdead (August 24, 2003)

blah fucking blah
my new marshall stack is WAY cooler than all this bullshit.

themuffingirl (August 24, 2003)

isn't it better to not influence at all if you influence 'bad' music? just seems like you don't have a redeeming point.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

Hahaha, where did i say they influenced good stuff? Stop arguing!

And sing the sorrow on the top ten of the year? NO

SockMonkeyRiot (August 24, 2003)

albums of the year

1. Brand New - Deja Entendu
2. Mars Volta - Deloused In The Comatorium
3. Dropkick Murphys - Blackout
4. Rise Against - Revolutions Per Minute
5. Rancid - Indestructible
6. Less Than Jake - Anthem
7. Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning
8. O.A.R. - In Between Now and Then
9. AFI - Sing The Sorrow

Soon to kick the shit out of most of those:
Streetlight Manifesto, Strike Anywhere, Lawrence Arms, Street Dogs

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

albums of the year:

1. nofx-war on errorism
2.rancid-indestructible
3.me first-take a break

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

this album is sick. i dont care what label they're on. shit, the suicide machines were on fucking hollywood, thats disney's label.
tropical london, shanghai, red hot moon, my god this album is too good.
1.AOCTW
2.life won't wait
3.indestructable
4.lets go
5.s/t2000
6.s/t

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

Doesnt mean they influence anything good anyway... A lot of bands are influential...

-BSD

GreenVandal (August 24, 2003)

I never said anything about there credibility. I said many bands cite them as a influence. hence they are influential. That cant be denied. Just because they influence the portion of music you ignore doesnt mean they dont influence anyone.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

albums of the year

1. Rise Against
2. Postal Service
3. Cursive

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

honestly who cares if rancid has influences? most bands do. they're not trying to change the world or anything, they're just making music. they might not be the most original or influential of bands, but what does that matter? they're just making fun music for people who want to listen. just quit yer bitchin and accept the fact that they're on a major and they have a video on mtv and a good charlotte ass is in that video, just let it all be. listen if you like em, don't if you don't.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

"This album aint bad. And Rancid is VERY influential. Sorry to break the news BSD. Original or not, many people are inspired by them."

In modern music "influiencing" somebody has fuck all to do with making good music. And do you go to a lot of shows? The biggest bands that influnced the local bands where I live are UK 82 bands, and we have some pretty young bands... The bottom line is that because Rancid has severed their connection with the actual punk scene through all of this Good Charllote toting and being hypocrites, not many real punk bands even pay attention to them... And to top it off, the one's they were inspired by, besides Mick Jones who said he admired their cover version of some early Clash song on a tribute album, didn't think the least of them... I think they've been slagged by every aging punk from Johnny Rotten to Dick of the Subhumans... And I really can see why... Tim and Lars are constantly denying that the Clash influenced them GREATLY... So basically they are rubbing their inspirations' names in the dirt and then sticking up for Good Charllote because whoever the two guys in that are slipped them some green under the table (at least that's what I think must be going on)...

As for influencing non-punk bands... I can't really see how since the music they play is considered so hard they only play the radio single on TV ever...

-BSD

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

"ahh, aobut me using the word niggers. i apologize to any1 that got offended, i was just quite pissed off, i dont have anything against most black people, im just annoyed, i understand that there was no need for that word. its just that they r everywhere where i live, they always beat the shit out of people (white people) for no reason. i know i cant blame all black people. they were all over the tv when i wrote that b4 so i just sorta was annoyed."

I think you should have been interviewed for "Bowling for Columbine".

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

Top 3 albums of the year:

1. The Sucide Machines-A Match and Some Gasoline

2. Dropkick Murphys-Blackout

3. Rancid-Indestructible

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

ahh, aobut me using the word niggers. i apologize to any1 that got offended, i was just quite pissed off, i dont have anything against most black people, im just annoyed, i understand that there was no need for that word. its just that they r everywhere where i live, they always beat the shit out of people (white people) for no reason. i know i cant blame all black people. they were all over the tv when i wrote that b4 so i just sorta was annoyed.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

just the fact that rancid is perhaps the single punk rock band out there that can cause such a debate, proves how great they are!

the album's good and original on the level of 'life won't wait'.

they probably spend too much time having a go at brody...

spirit of '87 rocks!!!!

GreenVandal (August 24, 2003)

"I thought it was bullshit at first. i just could not fucking believe it. so fuck them thay can stay on tv with all the other shitty fucked up sellout bands and even niggers too. thats just fucked up. goodbye to this band"

Alright you fucking prick. Theres no reason to use that word. Why dont you take you backward mesh hat wearing ass outside to fuck your cousin, then you can milk the cows. And visit a dentist for christs sake! That word is disgusting.

This album aint bad. And Rancid is VERY influential. Sorry to break the news BSD. Original or not, many people are inspired by them.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

FUCK RANCID!

I cant believe this, i walk into my house after getting home from a party, i thought i was going to have a good nights sleep until i saw "Fall Back Down" on the tv.

I cant believe these guys. I have listened to these guys for so long and now they go and put their video on tv.

I thought it was bullshit at first. i just could not fucking believe it. so fuck them thay can stay on tv with all the other shitty fucked up sellout bands and even niggers too. thats just fucked up. goodbye to this band

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

From way down the page,

"i mean, look at how much music he listens to that IS from England! (Clash, GBH, Exploited, etc.)"

The Exploited are from Scotland.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

Also...don't underestimate their influence. I would agree they are up there as a major influnental punk band. They have reached so many people and because their songs walk that line of heavy and catchy they ensnare many more people then other bands out there.
A great many musicians in many of your favorite bands all would cite Rancid as a band they love. I assure you.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

I loved this album and though I love Rancid and have been a fan for years (and Op Ivy before them), I by no means just pronounce everything they do as "good", just because they did it.

They have to impress me like everyone else.

Here is the deal, I think they made a solid collection of songs that run the full range of the sounds of Rancid so far. I think the production is solid and unlike some Rancid records, there is far more stand out songs then filler songs. When the stand out on this album they really fucking stand out. I think they have songs on this album that they will be playing for years to come.

The album won me over. I think you guys should give it more spins. I think Rancid is a band that you either get, or you don't. When people complain about particulars of Rancid (example out of tune vocals) I just figure its something you just have to love or hate.

I sawe some other debates down below about Matt Freeman's abilities as a bassist. I was able to observe him recently up close. During the Rancid set he plays both with pick and fingers and plays equally well with both. I am a bassist as well and let me tell you, the dude is way talented. He is an excellent musician and if you really pay attention you get it. He doesn't do anything really intense but he chooses some really well put together bass lines that grab you (skill #1), he can play EXTREMELY fast and clean (skill #2), his natural ability to improv solos put him in my humble opinion up as the bassist version of a freestyle rapper (skill #3).

There are many great bassists, but every bassist I know (and I know some amazing ones) pay him respect for his skill. You watch close and you realize how good he is.

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

Most influential punk band of all time? Haha. Good one.

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (August 24, 2003)

I don't know why... Rancid is in no way part of the real punk scene. If you want punk points for really unoriginal music consult the Unseen section of your local music store.

-BSD

Anonymous (August 23, 2003)

the only way i would ever buy this album is if i needed the extra scene points. [copyright mitch clem]

fuck you hypocrite bastards.
clothing line my ass.

funkisdead (August 23, 2003)

and out come the wolves got me into punk rock. lets go and the first self-titled record are just fucking rock albums... i used to ride around in my friends care chain smoking to that shit, thinking i was punk as fuck.
i didn't "get" life wont wait until much later. i bought it the day it came out, but i didn't see what the fuck they were doing. then rancid 2000 came out, i bought it, thought it was cool that they dropped the reggae, and forgot about rancid until i played life won't wait again, just to try it on for size, and fell in love.
and out come the wolves and life won't wait are two fucking perfect records.
regardless of whether you like rancid, which records you like, and how long you've liked them, this record completely lacks the classic spirit of the band. those other records were anthems of individuality, whereas this just seems like a lackluster attempt to make a "pop" record.

but who fucking cares anyway?

i am in washington dc, after bouncing around the country and shit for a few days, so i finally have the internet and i'm commenting on the new rancid record? what the fuck.

i have my very own brand new marshall half stack sitting next to me. so there.

JimmySavage (August 23, 2003)

UH OOOOOHHHHH!!! It's the Punk Police!!!
Everybody just needs to understand that Rancid is the single greatest punk band of all time. No joke! This may not be record of the year, but Rancid could be put to the Pepsi Challenge as the most influential punk band of all time.

SockMonkeyRiot (August 23, 2003)

I think Streetlight will be the best of the year, though Strike Anywhere and The Lawrence Arms are sure to be amazing.

TheNick (August 23, 2003)

touche

FortyMinutesWest (August 23, 2003)

" and while we're on the subject of best album of the year. so far im thinking suicide"

Don't do it! There's so much to live for!

Anonymous (August 23, 2003)

You know, the more time that passes, the better Operation Ivy sounds.

OC

Anonymous (August 23, 2003)

good review. but dfinitely nothing to do with a b-sides compilation. the songs in here stand in their own right. rancid is consistently good band and prove this once again. as for originality, it's as original as lww was compared to ..aoctw (which basically featured a more pronounced ska influence). it's easy to dismiss this as a letdown compared to energy rancid V, but the variety of the material has a r&r twist and orientation which keeps it unified and solid as an independent body of work. there's enough of everything here to keep everybody happy.

TheNick (August 23, 2003)

ok. where to start?

1. rancid never got me hard. they might have kept me excited when other bands got me off, but they were never anything special to me. so for this cd, i think ill let my friends who 'must have this cd for credibility' buy it, and ill borrow it, copy it if its good.

2. smashmouth is not ska. get over it.

3. you all are saying that its good when bands like rancid get 13 yr olds to like gbh and subhumans instead of good charlotte and new found glory. Why? Now those teeny boppers will like those bands because some other major icon does? Oh yea, and theyll start going to those shows, so then you all will bitch about the little girls and posers at those shows, and how the whole scenes corrupted, you know, since youre all (the ones saying this) a bunch of elitist snobs. thats cool.

4. and while we're on the subject of best album of the year. so far im thinking suicide, but lets hold out for streetlight manifesto....

word.
thenick

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

Once again Rancid delivers an amzing album. This one has something for everyone. None of their fans are left out on this one.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

Safe record? I can agree with that. It's not a huge depature from their sound unlike Let's Go and Rancid 2000. But it's still fucking good. Real good.

I don't think the song writing isn't spectacular, but these songs have so much meaning and so much heart that I can easily get passed all that. This is a heavy record lyrically for sure.

Poppy? Maybe. But Rancid has always been a more accessible punk band than others (with the exception of R2K and maybe some of their earlier work)

It's a damn fine record. And definitly one of the best of the year. I seriously cannot wait for their next album, I think this band is just waiting to explode in the creative department. I think we've only seen the surface of Tim Armstrong's mind.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

There's a Devil's Brigade 12" available only through Machete. There's something like 750 of them, 2 tunes, red vinyl. It's really rad and previously unreleased.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

Anyone have any idea if Rancid will ever release a B-sides, or something. And what about the DVD that was supposed to be out like 2 years ago? and what about the Silencers or Devil's Brigade. Rancid is my favorite band, but I wish they'd keep everyone updated a little more

I haven't stopped listening to this album. There are some amazing songs on it

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

"oh and blink 182's first two albums WERE good....all the rest sucked
(just thought i'd slip that in there...)"

Hahhahahahaha... Well there goes your credibility motherfucker.

skaman (August 22, 2003)

The River City Rebels can not even carry Tim Armstrong jock for one second.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

Its defintitely has a little bit of everything on it.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

i love this album and i really respect all the guys in the band...did anyone read the jacket and the descriptions of each song? there were some pretty heartfelt songs dedicated to Lar's deceased brother and the split 'tween brody and tim...and tons of others....very heavy songs .....

oh and blink 182's first two albums WERE good....all the rest sucked
(just thought i'd slip that in there...)

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (August 22, 2003)

""amazing album

record of the year" You obviously havent heard the new Suicide Machines cd. "

I couldn't have said it better.

And Lars does not make rancid more poppy moron, hes the best part of the band.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

It has more of that ...and out come the wolves feel to it.Only more poppy.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

This album is cool with me no matter what any one says. But the album of the year so far has to be Streetlight Manifesto. At least it will be when it is released next week.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

'fush yu mang' was an amazing album.

the river city rebels are even better.

this shitty excuse for an album can't touch either.

hang up the boots fellas, rancid sucks now.

Anonymous (August 22, 2003)

1. "2000" was like a rawer "Pain of Mind" NEUROSIS. Completely unexpected, especially after the experimental "Life Won't Wait"- which I love, it's the "Paul's Boutique" of the 90s. Watch, it'll be the crazy good underground record of the decade in a couple of years. Plus it has that psychobilly "Lady Liberty" tune on it.

2. This record is a split release between Hellcat and Warner. One record deal. Warner is doing a lot of things for the record, including promotions (hence the ball game appearance and the 80 copies at Best Buy mentioned below). Hellcat is still owned by Tim and Mr. Brett as a subsiduary of Epitaph.

3. Transplants and Snoop Dog? Whoah! Er, Whoah-izzle!
- Jesse

soulbleed (August 22, 2003)

great review, it was right on.

StratManX (August 22, 2003)

"and they can't even have the balls to put it on their record."

If WB had more than just a distributing hand in this record it would be all over the thing usually the Band doesn't decide that stuff. And if you've seen the album it has 1 Hellcat logo on the cd itself and virtually no credits to any label elsewhere.

thriceequalsgod (August 22, 2003)

"fush you mang fucking sucked."

i love how much reason you put into your answer...

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

Fuck these guys their on Warner Bros. and they can't even have the balls to put it on their record.
i'll probably still buy it

SockMonkeyRiot (August 21, 2003)

"What the fuck are you pussies bitching about? River City Rebels is the greatest band ever. Fucking sissies, you are truly missing out."

Who said we didn't know RCR?

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

ok album but suicide machines beats it out for album of the year honors.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

i think radiohead might be best, also the sainte catherines. i heard the new strike anywhere. good but not the best. maybe the lawrence arms or against me will be the best

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

""amazing album

record of the year" You obviously havent heard the new Suicide Machines cd. "

the real best is the streetlight manifesto cd.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

Rancid's first self titled was put out by Epitaph. They did their first single for Lookout!

--Cos

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

"amazing album

record of the year" You obviously havent heard the new Suicide Machines cd.

mcpike (August 21, 2003)

fush you mang fucking sucked.

thriceequalsgod (August 21, 2003)

"I can't believe someone just called Smash Mouth a good ska-punk band...l"

hey... dont doubt it. they used to be great. okay yeah thats it... used to be great.. get fush yu mang... its such a great cd.

hey_sailor (August 21, 2003)

I can't believe someone just called Smash Mouth a good ska-punk band...l

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

"you mean the lookout records release? are those still in existance?"

No. This was a bootleg.

-BSD

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

This album should be good ... Hey, there's a lot of posts on here. Wow.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

never liked them, ever!

p.s. my friend (he's a huge rancid and transplants fan.. poor bastard) played the song with skinhead rob while we were in the car, and i asked him the following query: "is this rancid or the transplants b-sides?"

He had no reply.

ZING!

RancidXine (August 21, 2003)

I will tell you right now that this album is amazing. It is a summation of their entire careers. It proves what they can do, and that is make music that everyone can like. Each song is different and reminiscent of different sounds. Tim's song writing is just amazing, although i am somewhat disappointed that matt freeman doesn't sing any songs on the album. overall, i enjoy the songs that incorporate the ska elements, as well as the songs with more of a "hardcore" influence. I will use the term lightly. I've been waiting for months for this album to finally come out and i am absolutely satisfied, like i doubted i would be. Rancid is a band that will last forever. Their influence continues, and this album is sheer proof.

saxxyrebel (August 21, 2003)

What the fuck are you pussies bitching about? River City Rebels is the greatest band ever. Fucking sissies, you are truly missing out.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

I was at Best Buy yesterday and they had about 80 of this album...and no I did not buy it.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

FOR SOME STRANGE REASON YOU GUYS ARE FORGETING THAT RANCID'S FIRST ALBUM WAS THE BEST ONE EVER! They kinda jumped the shark when Lars joined the band! Lars is more of a pop-punk guy! (HE LOVES TO SAY "NA NA NA" WHENEVER POSSIBLE) Rancid 2000 is up there with Let's go for second best! They should have combined those two albums with "Life won't wait" and that would have been a phenominal record!!
MATT WHY AREN'T YOU SINGING ANYMORE?!

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

"This record would be perfect, if not for the appearance by Skinhead Rob on "Red Hot Moon."

I like the Transplants and all (yeah, yeah) but keep your shitty tough guy rap off of my Rancid records."
100% AGREED!! TRANSPLANTS ARE GOOD, BUT NO TRANSPLANTS ON RANCID RECORD PLEEZ

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

arrested in Shang Hi.

not sure about "cracking open my cranium" but it is a very soothing tune. FUCK COMMUNISM.

NOFXPunkLTJ22 (August 21, 2003)

"Since when did the guy from smashmouth start singing for rancid haha anyone else think it sounds like that (at least the one horrid song you hear on the radio)... that song alone will stop me from hearing the rest of this album"

Old Smash Mouth is amazing. Im surprised no one reviewed "fush yu mang" on this site because the cd is great ska/punk. They played warped in '97.

2000 is my favorite. This CD is good.

Oh yeah and I like that comment on how rancid is the
ugliest
band
ever.
hahahaha.

adamsocial (August 21, 2003)

This record would be perfect, if not for the appearance by Skinhead Rob on "Red Hot Moon."

I like the Transplants and all (yeah, yeah) but keep your shitty tough guy rap off of my Rancid records.

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

the same usual Rancid sound..boring

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

fuck all you pussies who say they sold out so fucking what if they did or not music is music you like it or you don't. so get over it

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

very good review, i agree with most of what you said. i do miss some of the faster punk stuff like on rancid 2000 but oh well this prob won't be their last and hopefully will have something else in a year or 2. good cd though

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

Bad Album
How dare you compare this piece of garbage to a masterpiece like LET'S GO

StratManX (August 21, 2003)

so what if I was 10, by the way, I'm 18 now, I was listening to music right out of the womb (well not literally but close) and when I was that young, hearing a new band still had a profound change on my life. The difference is that now the change can come in a different way. When I was 10 it just dictated what I wore and what else I listened to, but now I can listen to a band's message and understand it a bit more to shape my outlook on life, so I see where you are coming from.

Jon_the_Skafather (August 21, 2003)

"Yeah, I've actually heard a version of their first S/T that supposedly had Matt Freeman singing more of the songs. I dunno. I guess it was okay, there was something about the guitar that really detracted from the good choruses and bass playing.

-BSD"

you mean the lookout records release? are those still in existance?

Anonymous (August 21, 2003)

i'm sick of people saying that bands cannot support themselves on independent labels.

i'm sure the guys in rancid have lots fo fucking money. i'm sure they don't need any fucking more to live comfortably.

lots of bands live completely fine with being on indepednet labels. so you mite have to work a bit when you aren't on tour. big fucking deal. i get 3 weeks vacation a year and some sick days. abd the rest of the time i'm stuck at home working for 8 hours a day. not over in europe driving around and meeting cool people.

bands do not need to go to majors to live comfortably.

the only reason to go to a major is to sellmore records, have a pretty video and connections to get on shitty tours and festivals.

FortyMinutesWest (August 21, 2003)

No, I'm with you.

sweetsugarpezz (August 21, 2003)

I must be the only person ever to not like this band. Oh well.

-sweetsugarpezz

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

amazing album

record of the year

maybe even rancid's best to date. I can't wait to catch them when they finally come to the East Coast for a non-warped show sometime in November

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

"C'mon BSD, do you really think 2000 was really better than the original S/T (do we refer to it as "93" or whenever it came out). There were actual SONGS on that fucking record with amazing choruses, Matt's best singing ever... "Rejected", "Adina", and "Detroit" are worth the price of admission alone..

Not looking to start a fight. You seem knowledgable on this type o' punk and most kids on this site don't seem to like the first album--I still stand by it as my favorite from the band.

--Cos"

Yeah, I've actually heard a version of their first S/T that supposedly had Matt Freeman singing more of the songs. I dunno. I guess it was okay, there was something about the guitar that really detracted from the good choruses and bass playing.

-BSD

BeaArthur (August 20, 2003)

I still remember seeing them with AFI (back in the Answer That and stay fashionable days) in a 300 person club that was packed with over 500 people in the middle of -30 degree winter in Canada.
Yeah man. Porter Hall in Carleton University. Wow, Afi (back when they were asking for it) sure has changed.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

thats great u got into punk when u were 10, i was the one who posted about getting into punk when aoctw came out. i'm not saying younger people are any less of fans, its just that older fans see them in a different light. so u got into them during aoctw, thats great, but u were fucking ten, trust me , theres a huge difference. you're what, 17 now? u probably understand that discovering a band that changes your life is a bit more profound in your teenage years.

as for the album it kicks ass. i dont' think its as good as life won't wait or aoctw, but its better than all the other ones i think. their old shit and rancid2000 just didnt have enough variety for me. every fucking song off the first 2 albums sounds the same except for the classics, like radio.i much prefer the reggae tracks, poppier tracks, etc. but thats just my opinion. as for them being on a major, so what, so was the clash, the sex pistols and the ramones, its a fuckiing label, what their not alowed to have more money. i guess you'll be turning down that raise at mcdonalds or wherever u fuckers work cuz its punkto be poor. their music has not gone soft or anything. the single is poppy but so what. its an anthem about their band. its one song, its not the whole album. and i personally think its a great song

rancid kicks ass, this is def. in my top 10 for the year so far, prob. top 5.
i wasnt trying to condescend to the kids, when anyone on this board is 22 or 23, you'll understand about the connection u have to the bands that got u into punk, unless you're like the 75% of people on these boards who won't touch punk in 3 years once they 'grow up'. i've been into punk for 7 years, i don't think i'm better than anyone, but its different than people who just got into it last summer.

vien (August 20, 2003)

"when was i ungrateful? i said that things should be in perspective of the world and that freeman is a good bassist but not nearly as good as everyone else here thinks he is. that's what i'm saying. i give credit where it's due. matt does a good job with pushing the envelope for bass in punk rock.....more should follow in his footsteps."

I was not directing my comment towards you only. Just some feelings that I wanted to vent out.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Does anybody know where one can find the Rancid Alternative Press interview online? Thanks.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

tim armstrongs voice is reminiscent of Corky with a speech impediment.

StratManX (August 20, 2003)

"i was 16 when i got and out come the wolves and it got me into punk"

Yeah, and I remember being like 9 or 10 when I heard it and loved it, so does it make that big of a difference that you were 16? Anyone can enjoy any type of music, I like the genre when I was young and now that I'm older it's even better.

Jon_the_Skafather (August 20, 2003)

"Once you find a terrific Bassist like Matt Freeman, yet somehow you jerks still find a way compare him to somebody else and bastardize his talent. Seriously people, how many great bassists can you name that devotes thier talent to make punk rock more enjoyable than it is? He is one the reasons that shows punk rock music has no boundaries and that it can expand into that kind of level. Don't get me wrong, there are a ton of great bassists in punk rock, but I don't care who's better than who (even if it's outside of a muiscal genre, ex. Les Claypool), he is good at what he does, period. You ungrateful bastards should realize and be thankful that you have musicians like Matt Freeman around. Without him, Rancid will not be the same."

when was i ungrateful? i said that things should be in perspective of the world and that freeman is a good bassist but not nearly as good as everyone else here thinks he is. that's what i'm saying. i give credit where it's due. matt does a good job with pushing the envelope for bass in punk rock.....more should follow in his footsteps.

vien (August 20, 2003)

Once you find a terrific Bassist like Matt Freeman, yet somehow you jerks still find a way compare him to somebody else and bastardize his talent. Seriously people, how many great bassists can you name that devotes thier talent to make punk rock more enjoyable than it is? He is one the reasons that shows punk rock music has no boundaries and that it can expand into that kind of level. Don't get me wrong, there are a ton of great bassists in punk rock, but I don't care who's better than who (even if it's outside of a muiscal genre, ex. Les Claypool), he is good at what he does, period. You ungrateful bastards should realize and be thankful that you have musicians like Matt Freeman around. Without him, Rancid will not be the same.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I love this website. Reading all the contradicting comments makes my day at the job all that much better. Rancid sucks cuz they rip the clash and the record isn't cohesive / Rancid 2000 sucks cuz it sounds sloppy and there isn't much diversity. What the fuck's the problem here? I read all the Pennywise posts about them having the same album over and over. So what! Don't buy it, don't DL it, go listen to something else then.

I completely agree with the review on this album in that it sounds exactly like a mixture of all their albums. That being said, I think it represents the best parts of those albums too. I find it to be very catchy and easy to listen to. I like the fact that they aren't afraid to try new sounds and be experimental (ala the Clash) from album to album. It seems to keep their albums fresh sounding and if you own all of them you can basically choose what kind of style you feel like throwing on the CD player. Personally, they will never top Let's Go only because that's when I got into them back in the day. Just like Swingin Utters won't top Streets of San Fran, Pennywise won't top Unknown Road, NOFX won't top White Trash. It's all a matter of opinion and those CDs to me are the pinacle of their discographies because they bring back all those memories of hanging out with friends finding new bands before the internet and what not. You can't fault someone cuz they didn't get into a band until their fourth album or something. Everyone on this site listened to crappy music at one time or another. Actually, Rancid got me into street punk and ska just by reading about their influences or reading the band thank you lists on the back of the CDs. I still remember seeing them with AFI (back in the Answer That and stay fashionable days) in a 300 person club that was packed with over 500 people in the middle of -30 degree winter in Canada. The band even took time to hang out with fans afterwards, sign autographs, and whatnot. It frustrates me that people who were down with them up until two months ago have all of a sudden turned on them because of who they are friends with, they're on a major (are they really????), or Lars talks shit. At the end of the day, it's their band so they can do what they want and you can either stay on board or jump off to the next underground hyped band until they get too popular and become hated. As long as they are still making quality music with conviction, consider me down.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

C'mon BSD, do you really think 2000 was really better than the original S/T (do we refer to it as "93" or whenever it came out). There were actual SONGS on that fucking record with amazing choruses, Matt's best singing ever... "Rejected", "Adina", and "Detroit" are worth the price of admission alone..

Not looking to start a fight. You seem knowledgable on this type o' punk and most kids on this site don't seem to like the first album--I still stand by it as my favorite from the band.

--Cos

FortyMinutesWest (August 20, 2003)

"no 16-19 or 20 yr old can really appreciate rancid like i do"

So basically, almost everyone who listens to Rancid can't appreciate them like you do.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

wow too many comments, but i'll add my 2 cents. first some guy said something to the extent of 'you guys are too young to appreciate rancid'. i think thats bullshit, but i admit, there is some truth too it. no 16-19 or 20 yr old can really appreciate rancid like i do, i am 23, unless rancid did for them what they did for me. i was 16 when i got and out come the wolves and it got me into punk, before that i had some greenday, but not until rancid did i really get into it. so for that, yea i don't think 17 yr olds can really relate to that, being they were like 10 when aoctw came out. but everyone has that band that gets them into punk. i love rancid. spread the love dudes...sob ..sob...

sickboi (August 20, 2003)

Les Claypool to the bass is what Hendrix was to the geetar.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Freeman is one of the best bassists period. Just because he plays "punk" shouldn't detract from that - and sounding like Les Claypool shouldn't be the measuring stick anyways.

OC

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Okay. I like Rancid a lot, and that includes some of the new record. But you guys have got to be realistic. Here is my prediction....: COMING THIS SPRING! THE COCA COLA PUNK OUT TOUR! FEATURING AVRIL LAVIGNE/GOOD CHARLOTTE! also appearing: rancid. TICKETS FOR THIS EVENT ON SALE AT THE BOX OFFICE OF THE BIGGEST ARENA IN YOUR CITY FOR ONLY $75! GET THERE EARLY FOR "MOSH" SEATING TICKETS!!! You may laugh now or say that I'm stupid, but you know that if this really happened, Lars would be all in arms about how "punk" it really is. Whatever. I'm going to listen to Let's Go.

corporatedoug (August 20, 2003)

Arrested in Shanghai. Fucking amazing song. Another great album. Funny how so many never seem to get tired of making the same bullshit Clash comparisons. That shit was old in 93 and it's tiresome now. Same with the comments regarding Tim's slur. You fuckers make it sound like he used to have a clear voice or some shit. It's always been that fucking way. Try going back a few albums further than AOCTW. Not familiar with those albums? Like Ranicd, cool. Hate em, fine. Just back your shit up. You're fired.
Coporate Doug

SockMonkeyRiot (August 20, 2003)

Is anyone else in love with the song "Arrested In Shanghai"?

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

ok here's the fuckin score for all you bastards. rancid did not sell out. selling out means comprimising your artistic individuality for the sake of financial gain. they have not done this at all, as anyone who knows rancid since the beginning can tell that this is the record they would have made on a major, an indie or an unsigned band on the fuckin streets they came from. the fact that they have friends who may not be cool or shouldn't affect the way people perceive them. its fucking stupid to call rancid lame cuz they associate with people who are lame. if i have a gay friend, does that make me gay? furthermore, good charlotte are doing nothing wrong. many people foolishly think that they are misrepresenting punk to the masses but they are not a punk band, have never been one and frequently warn idiots that they aren't punk. just because punks are in a band doesn't that said band is a punk band. the faulted people here are the uneducated listeners who jump to the conclusion that gc are a punk band because of the silly aforementioned reasons. finally, you just cant fuck with this record, guys. other than radiohead and the sainte catherines this is probably the best record out in 2003. it might be better than life won't wait. i think that the songs are better individually, but it suffers a lack of cohesion due to the fact that there was a break in recording when tim and brody split. despite the fractures and disjointed flow, eac song is great on its own. tim has proven himself again as an amazing american songwriter with his own unique style. fucking "memphis" is sooo good. "back up" "red hot" and "tropical london" are right up there, but really this record is all about "start now". "indestructible" "otherside" and "born frustrated" show that quick style they mastered. fuck off!

Jon_the_Skafather (August 20, 2003)

"I used to think Freeman was overrated too, then I saw them at warped tour, that guy is up there with Les Claypool and Victor Wooten. Freeman tore up the maxwell murder solo. And if you've seen them live and still think hes overrated, your arrogant."

i think freeman is good.....but to compare him to les claypool and victor wooten? that's a little extreme....i think he's a good bassist, just don't compare a qualified bassist with great bassists. maybe if freeman showed more versatility as a bassist and used more than just the same picked solos and lines(i could argue that picks are not the tool of great bassists but a limiter).

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

My take on all of this...

"If I fall back down, your gonna be my friend"

With Benji (or whoever it is from Good Charlotte) and Kelly Osbourne gambling in the background...

hahahahahahaha

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Who the fuck said lars should leave rancid? Man lars is a great pat of Rancid and has a great voice. Who the hell cares who he hangs with? Yeah,Fred Durst is a pussy and GC sucks, but can you honestly tell me youdon't have any wierd friends who have diffeent taste than you? Stop rippin on lars, you don't even fucking know him.

Rancid Rocks
I'll be in te pit.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

as far as the bass goes, no one can touch WATT!

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

freeman is not even close to les claypool or victor wooten! he's awesome, but c'mon. my favorite punk bassist is scott shifflet, that guy shreds on the bass, freeman tends to do a lot of hammer on/off that sound crazy but aren't hard.

501 (August 20, 2003)

I used to think Freeman was overrated too, then I saw them at warped tour, that guy is up there with Les Claypool and Victor Wooten. Freeman tore up the maxwell murder solo. And if you've seen them live and still think hes overrated, your arrogant.

thefirstfive (August 20, 2003)

I still havn't bought this one yet, though i know i will... but honestly I think i lost my respect for Lars when he defended Fred Durst in a recent interview. Come on man.. than shit aint right. Has hanging out with GC frat boy fan base fucked with your head? Oh well. Here's to hoping this album crashes and burns and Rancid breaks up so Lars can go back to making Bastards records and Tim can make that "Bling Bling" album with Snoop and Dr. Dre you know he's been dying to do since Op Ivy broke up. As for Matt and Brett... he's to hoping they pull a Wilco and record an album of Woodie Guthrey covers. Oh well..

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

This post doesnt really relate to Rancid's new record, but I need somewhere to say this. Matt Freeman is overrated. He is a GREAT bassist, tons of skill, but I think he overplays on Rancid's songs and it takes away from the music. My opinion of a skilled all-around bass player is Jason Black. He writes some crazy stuff, and it blends absolutely perfectly with HWM's music. That's all.

-Gregory

P.S. I play bass.

I also play bass.Matt Freeman is not an AMAZING bassist technically as many people claim and his songs dont take "days to perfect" (not being big headed but they dont for me anyway).He is just a good one and his playing suits the music.Les Claypool from Primus,Stuart Hamm and basically any jazz bassist (Wooten,Miller,etc) kicks his ass technically.

As far as Rancid goes I never got into them because of Tim Armstrong's astonishingly poor,out of tune vocals.But i guess it's punk to be out of tune :0)

mumbleumbolous (August 20, 2003)

classy.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I love the comment from the guy about Rancid and their "prison tattoos" and rodeo clown outfits". I saw them at this years Warped tour. Brett and Matt looked fine but Tim and Lars seroiusly lokked like fuckin rodeo clowns. Fuckin highwater pants that are baggy in some places but still hug the nuts tight. Guys in their late 30's dressing like this is embarrassing.

Manman (August 20, 2003)

Wow, Anonymous, I couldn't disagree more. This is like listening to "The Worst of Rancid:5" all over again. When will they quit making substandard 'music'? It is really bad when I have to resort to digging my brain out with a plastic shovel, this happens to be that bad. Do they really think they can sleep under MY bed? Do they?

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

The new Neptunes album "Clones" is really fucking good. The Dirt McGhirt song is, how should I put it...the hotness?

Yeah, that sounds right.

-sickboi
(got burnt once.....well, not I didn't actually)

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

WHAT'S UP WITH MATT?!! WHY AINT HE SINGING AGAIN?! Any song Matt sings on is the shit! Well I'm listening to the streamed version of the album right now. It reminds me of Life Won't Wait and Out come the Wolves combined. I COULD CARE LESS WHAT LABEL THEY ARE ON AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CHANGE THEIR STYLE!! ALL MATT HAD TO DO WAS SING ON MAYBE 4 TRACKS AND I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE CD!!! It's kinda sad because I have all their albums, comps, demos, etc. But this is the first one I AIN'T GONNA GET!

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Over the last week I was somehow able to pick up used copies of the new Souls, Avenged Sevenfold, and Larry Arms ablums. All three are very good. As is Rancid's. However, the Avenged album is miles ahead of the aforementioned three. This album will blow you guys away.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=1471728

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

anyone want to talk about that new prefuse 73 album because it's pretty good

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I am from a moderately small sized town in Minnesota. I am 24 years young, and have been listening to Rancid since I was 13. Yes I think Indestructible is a great album. I like the previous five albums quite a bit too. I have seen them in concert unfortunately only four times. I have never heard them complain in concert about major labels live. If they do so be it. I'm sure none of you have ever said one thing and then did another. In short, Rancid could do a spilt with Matchbox 20 and I would buy it, because in my humble opinion they do nothing, but make consistantly good records!

Hugs N' Handjobs

www.moilanformayor.com

stupidtank (August 20, 2003)

is it me, or is song 6 and 9 the same fucking 3 chord progression?...less the intro on song 9....

anyways, fuck it...everything the ramones put out wasn't gold either...

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Is there a bass solo anywhere on this album? What song?

_911 (August 20, 2003)

yes good riddance can.. oh yeah good riddance the band who would NEVER give in for money..

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

i give a ten to the last 2 posts.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

NO SHIT, good riddance can still too

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

is Strung Out the ONLY band that can still come out with a good record?

vien (August 20, 2003)

Jason's a good bass player, but I can learn his stuff perfectly in 20 min. compared to Freeman's stuff which takes me a few days to perfect. But again, these are two totally different style bassists we are talking about.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

This post doesnt really relate to Rancid's new record, but I need somewhere to say this. Matt Freeman is overrated. He is a GREAT bassist, tons of skill, but I think he overplays on Rancid's songs and it takes away from the music. My opinion of a skilled all-around bass player is Jason Black. He writes some crazy stuff, and it blends absolutely perfectly with HWM's music. That's all.

-Gregory

P.S. I play bass.

StratManX (August 20, 2003)

I thought we were done bitching about the major label thing a month ago when there were well over a thousand posts on the subject. Now quit bitching and get over the fact that you are too "punk" for something.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I remember 2 and a half years ago at the Cincinnati warped tour (then held at the Kentucky Speedway in Sparta, Ky) as rancid entered the stage, Lars takes a quick grab at the mic and yells to the crowd "Lets hear a big "FUCK YOU" to all of the major record labels!!!" crowds cheered. now they are getting help from Warner Brothers, man i fucking hate hypocrites.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

Album of the year, kids.

SOYBOMB (August 20, 2003)

"I just happen to be a longtime fan so it got a bit higher rating from me then it otherwise would."

Hah,

Shit,

Ignore the post below.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

SOYBOMB (August 20, 2003)

Actually Adam..

I questioned your review because I felt (at least in my opinion) that this album is relatively weak compared to their prior releases...

I was wondering if the name had anything to do with bumping the review up to a near perfect score, cause in my opinion, Indestructible deserves like.. 3 1/2 at most... It doesn't have many standout, solid tracks like Life Won't Wait, or ...And Out Come The Wolves... It has a few potential radio-singles, but other than that, this disc is lacking.

Sad, but true.

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I think i like the first half better, although "stand your ground" is really good.

TheOneTrueBill (August 20, 2003)

I don't even know why i bother comenting, this will be down pretty far by tomorrow

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

have you ever seen pictures of this band?

ugliest
band
ever

adam (August 20, 2003)

SOYBOMB: I gave it four stars because, while I enjoyed vast majority of the songs here, the band seemed to be following a formula. Like Aubin said: it's good, not great. I just happen to be a longtime fan so it got a bit higher rating from me then it otherwise would.

adam

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

I really dislike that "fall back down" song reminds me too much of like a really bad pre-school song, This band has ALWAYS stuck to the formula of making simple punk songs with a "Street" edge. Pesonally, I think Rancid has ran its course, while I loved Rancid 2000, this one just falls short of the greatness that was Life Won't Wait. I really don't understand the recent flocking to major labels. As much as I love the old punk stuff (even the old rancid stuff) I really don't like how the scene is now just some mainstream teen cash cow. I know this has no relevance to the record in question but I recently went to a club that used to be All-Ages and I'm 19 and then it was all of a sudden turned into a 21 and over place. Just for some major punk band that was touring to go play at someplace like that is ridiculous I understand the age limitations but that doesn't mean that it has to be discriminitory. Why can't we go back to the days hell even back 3 years ago just when all we had to worry about were the Blink 182 idiots. Punk has become nothing but a fashion trend, maybe it always was. I love the music, hate the scene. this record can below me.

unconcerned (August 20, 2003)

Since when did the guy from smashmouth start singing for rancid haha anyone else think it sounds like that (at least the one horrid song you hear on the radio)... that song alone will stop me from hearing the rest of this album

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

after listening to this album quite a bit on the way to and from work i've finally made my conclusion.

At first i said "oh shit this sucks" Then there was a 2 week grace period where i thought "well... you know.. there are some great songs on this cd"

.. i think many of you are still in the "great cd" phase... i've now doubled over and i'll be happy if i never hear it again. The poppy songs are too catchy and annoying to enjoy (maybe too good?) and the songs that are good are few and far between filled in with crappy songs where tim tries to build his punk credibility talking about growing up and going to shows.. it reminds me of something The Ataris wrote.

Those songs that aren't filling into the category of repetitive and poppy are excellent.. its just too bad they are so hard to come by on this album

-cactussac

joeg (August 20, 2003)

to the jackholes who have a problem with rancid being friends with the gc dude and kelly osbourne-they must be guilty by association then, huh? i hate gc as much as the next guy, but that's fucking bullshit to tell somebody who and who they can't be friends with-and that has nothing to do with their punk cred or whatever bullshit you little kids think up.

Anonymous (August 20, 2003)

fuck this band

pwfanatic (August 19, 2003)

from what i heard of the album (best buy to my house) i didn't think the album was half bad, and i planned on listening to the rest, but then got sidetracked by the 24 season 2 preview dvd that best buy gave me.

watching more 24 was awesome, so i'm not sure if the new album can compare.

rootsradical (August 19, 2003)

great album. i agree with other posts that my only complaint is the lack of a freeman song. they may not be the most original punk band, but theyre the best around today. i agree with the reviewer about the songs, the mix of styles keeps it from getting bogged down. by the way, does the chorus of arrested in shanghai remind anybody else of the chorus to like a rollin stone by bob dylan?

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Seeing dudes in their late 30's sporting prison tattoos and rodeo clown outfits (did anyone see the shit Lars was wearing this Warped tour?)isn't my idea of cool. Fuck Rancid and their So Cal, never sign to a major, elitist bullshit. Good move by the way of having the Good Charlotte twin in their new vid. Makes them look even older.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

jesus christ. shut the hell up about kelly osbourne and gc. rancid is one of the few bands i respect enough not to care who they're friends with or wanna throw in their video...ACTUALLY I RESPECT EVERYONE ENOUGH NOT TO CARE WHO THEIR FRIENDS ARE...duh. this cd is great. and the review is great.

SOYBOMB (August 19, 2003)

Hm..

Adam,

You never explained in detail why this album is 4 star...

Peace,
-SOYBOMB-

hitlerbadzakgood (August 19, 2003)

man, quit complaining about good charlotte. THIER VIDEO HAD KELLY OSBOURNE IN IT!!!

~Zäk

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

I agree with the guy below me. I hate to sound like an elitest but seriously, Good Charlotte and Kelly Osborne? Good Charlotte is the top of the heap of shitty "punk" bands and Lars is totally down with those pussies. I don't give a shit how punk rock these dudes think they are, that shit is wack. It's like he's taking the very idea of which he lives his life and shitting on it by featuring that dipshit in the video. Good Charlotte has nothing to do with punk rock and Lars should honestly be ashamed for treating them like they somehow do. It's like they're trying to sellout or whatever as fast as they possibly can. Every other week I see them doing something else that's stupid and it's pretty sad and I'm not even much of a fan of this band.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

okay. Now, I had respect for Rancid up until the video for Fall Back Down horrified me. All of you who love rancid can keep loving them, but I just want to make it clear that it IS EXTREMELY unwise to have Kelly Osbourne and that dork that loves slipknot from Good Charlotte in your video. Maybe Rancid thinks they are Mest now or something, but that geek needs to go, it does not make Rancid look any younger and/or hip if that is what they are going for. I respected them for their past albums and maybe even this one, but...wow. alright im done, have a good evening everyone.- Monkey-Man

CallingLondon (August 19, 2003)

life won't wait was most certaintly a punk album. a great punk album. it just wasn't straightforward street-like punk

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

I really like this album! I'd say its their best since Let's Go. But did anyone else notice that Tim's name is misspelled on the first page of the CD booklet?

RyanTMurphy (August 19, 2003)

Good review. My sentiments are similar. My review should be up at 411mania.com soon.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

''Life Can't Wait wasn't even really a punk record''

How 'bout ''Life Won't Wait''??

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

"How come everyone thinks 2000 is their worst albums? It takes equal parts of Discharge, GBH, Sham 69, The Exploited, The Casualties, and The Clash and some how makes it work. Ohh wait, no one here likes street punk. Sucks to be you guys."

Yeah, that probably is their best and hardest album... The problem is they wrote it just to gain back street cred after Ruby Soho was an MTV hit and Life Can't Wait wasn't even really a punk record... Personally it made me turn it off and put on GBH and Blitz. Oh well, as I said the best part about them is that they wear their influences on their sleeve even if they do stupidly deny being Clash rips.

-BSD

ripperwalk (August 19, 2003)

Warner has helped distribute Rancid's new shit. At a Seattle Mariners game the other day, before the game, the stadium was playing "Fall Back Down." So the work of Warner is obvious, including the parental advisory sticker on the album.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Good album, 2000 was my favorie by them though. iTunes music store has 2 bonus tracks for a buck a piece

"Stranded"
"Killing Zone"

mumbleumbolous (August 19, 2003)

i know they put 2 others on the itunes site. i dont think ill be buying them anytime soon though.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

It's the same for every band/album.... you write plenty of songs and end up cutting some at the final mix.

Some will become unreleased tracks and will appear on singles, some will never see the light of day (unfortunately).

It was the same for Transplants. For their first album, Tim wrote 40 songs.

-Lint07

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

In the Alternative Press cover story a couple months ago... 25 songs were explicitly described... but the cd only has 19 on it... anyone know where the others went?

aubin (August 19, 2003)

I couldn't care less about the major label thing; that's between Tim and Brett and the band.

As for the record itself, I do think it's good; some of my friends really love it, but it's good, not great. all the hype led me to believe this was a "Out Come the Wolves" level of record, but it's more of a "Life Won't Wait", qualitywise.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Stand your ground is an amazing, amazing song. One of my favorites!

-Lint07

vien (August 19, 2003)

Rancid has been making great music for years now, I think that gives them the right to do whatever they want, especially if they choose to sign into a Major. Who cares? They rock.

Jon_the_Skafather (August 19, 2003)

"I am surprised about how many Rancid fans there are in here, after reading the ''Rancid joins the bunny'' post I almost thought I was the only one."

i think rancid are hypocritical assholes for signing to a major after all the shit they talked on majors and all....but i can't deny good music.

but then again, people do change...fat mike wrote vegetarian mumbo jumbo and now he is a vegetarian...so maybe rancid changed or something? i dunno...dont know their contract so i don't know if they got a good deal or not.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

You can listen to the ENTIRE album for free here:

http://www.bandbuilder.com/rancid/index.php?ref_code=D23 230

Nice little site.

-Lint07

StratManX (August 19, 2003)

The only thing I saw with the limited edition was that it was 15 bucks more and came with a shirt. But despite what I thought at first this is actually a pretty decent album.

GregSka (August 19, 2003)

Red Hot Moon is a sweet fucking song, props to Rancid for writing it. Too bad it's not even half as good when they play it live though

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

The limited edition CD will have 2 unreleased tracks and I heard there will also be a 2cd version but I don't know what else could be on the 2nd cd... videos?

As far as the album goes, I got this baby in my cd player for 1 month now. ONE FUCKIN MONTH! I can't stop listening to it, great great album I'll buy it tomorrow and will also buy the Limited Edition version as well.

Rancid couldn't do a bad album even if they'd want to.

I am surprised about how many Rancid fans there are in here, after reading the ''Rancid joins the bunny'' post I almost thought I was the only one.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TOUR!!!

-Lint07

adam (August 19, 2003)

To the guy asking about 2000:

I, for one, really loved that album. My review's here somewhere...

adam

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

I can already hear it: I guarantee you Fall Back Down will be on the next Kids Bopz CD.

vien (August 19, 2003)

I just bought this a half hour ago. Neat.

P.S. Where is my GUTG picture disc?

skankin_in_the_pit (August 19, 2003)

I haven't actually heard this album but Rancid has always been real hit and miss with me. I was never really a fan but I can understand why they are so well known and kinda blew up in the punk scene. If they can change a 13 or 14 year old from listening to Good Charlotte and the like to GBH or subhumans that is good. Or even having references to The Clash, King Django, and Desmond Dekker in their songs can't be bad.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

I really like this record, it has that summer appeal to it -- I really love 'Arrested in Shanghai.'

- Scott
http://www.local-felons.com
(Nutrition Facts)

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

How come everyone thinks 2000 is their worst albums? It takes equal parts of Discharge, GBH, Sham 69, The Exploited, The Casualties, and The Clash and some how makes it work. Ohh wait, no one here likes street punk. Sucks to be you guys.

Jon_the_Skafather (August 19, 2003)

"fact is Rancid is gonna do whatever the hell they want to do to please themselves. and that's how music SHOULD be written! why bother comparing the new cd so much with their past ones? we all know how much they change sound and styles on each new release, so why not try to keep an open mind and just go along for the ride? and as for Tim's supposed British accent, it just might be an unconscious thing with him. i mean, look at how much music he listens to that IS from England! (Clash, GBH, Exploited, etc.) he probably draws from what he's into the most, is all. Rancid will probably always be a band at least worthy of respect, even if you don't dig all the tunes."

first of all.....what the fuck are you talking about?

tim doesn't sing with a brittish accent, he has a speach impediment and it shows through in his singing, he isn't imitating someone when he does that.

as far as the cd goes, anyone familiar with rancid's history would know that this cd sounds alot like their past cd's and DOESN'T offer much in the way of anything new other than arrested in shanghai.

it's a solid cd from rancid but deffinately nothing new or impressive.

i give the cd a 7.

i give the person making the mindless comments a 1 for the less than intellegent comment.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

"i don't want to sound like the music snob who knows it all, but it's obvious you all are way to young to truly appreciate RANCID. one of the only bands to never put out a bad record, indestructible is the latest example. RANCID will eventually go down as not only one of the greatest punk bands of all time, but one of the greatest bands of all time period. respect them while they're here."

Hahaha... "Not old enough"? More like "not young enough"... Rancid, I guess is good in one aspect: They get uneducated kids into UK punk some times... These guys are so far from being the "greatest of all time", though, I can't believe you wrote that. The greatest punk bands of all time will be the ones who had literally NOTHING to go by before they came along... To be honest, Rancid derives their sound from too few sources for my tastes. They sound completely unoriginal to me, because if you listen to 77 style and even only the "popular" UK 82 bands, you'll see where Rancid stole their ideas... Hell the concept for the song "Travis Bickle" was done in 1977 as a matter of fact... These guys are definitely not the greatest... That honor goes to the true originals, and these guys simply aren't original.

-BSD

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

fact is Rancid is gonna do whatever the hell they want to do to please themselves. and that's how music SHOULD be written! why bother comparing the new cd so much with their past ones? we all know how much they change sound and styles on each new release, so why not try to keep an open mind and just go along for the ride? and as for Tim's supposed British accent, it just might be an unconscious thing with him. i mean, look at how much music he listens to that IS from England! (Clash, GBH, Exploited, etc.) he probably draws from what he's into the most, is all. Rancid will probably always be a band at least worthy of respect, even if you don't dig all the tunes.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

i don't want to sound like the music snob who knows it all, but it's obvious you all are way to young to truly appreciate RANCID. one of the only bands to never put out a bad record, indestructible is the latest example. RANCID will eventually go down as not only one of the greatest punk bands of all time, but one of the greatest bands of all time period. respect them while they're here.

CallingLondon (August 19, 2003)

Is this fucker on sale anywhere or what?

it's $11.99 at Best Buy. I bought it along iwth the new Dandy Warhols album. so far it's really great. i don't care what you all say, Fall Back Down is a great feel good song. get off your tough guy pedistals and just enjoy the music.

SockMonkeyRiot (August 19, 2003)

I like it

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

"Fall Back Down"'s chorus sounds like a Barney song. I swear. Basically, if you have all their other stuff their newest outing is only for either diehards or pop punkers who want to look "hardcore" by saying they have the new album by the hardest of the popular punk bands.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Does anyone know the difference between the limited edition CD and the regular CD? Extra tracks?

By the way, this album rocks. The first time I listened to it, the music didn't click with me. After a few spins, I couldn't stop listening to it.

Best Songs:
Django
Travis Bickle
Roadblock
Out Of Control

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

It's a great song

sickboi (August 19, 2003)

I kinda like it, its like a feel good song.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Fall Back Down is the absolute worst song I have ever heard. Disgraceful.

...evildeadalive

bluetunehead (August 19, 2003)

since when is it surprising when a punk singer employs a faux-british accent? so many of them do it. it's a way to stylize an otherwise bad voice.

sickboi (August 19, 2003)

Is this fucker on sale anywhere or what?

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Does anyone know what this label situation is for this release?
I know it's been beaten to death but I have the CD sitting in front of me and there is absolutely no mention of Warner anywhere on the disc. There is a Hellcat label on it and an Epitaph serial number but no Hellcat or Epitaph address. Honestly, if they signed a deal with Warner for distribution, I have not noticed much advertisement about their new release anywhere either. Fatwreck had a lot more advertising for the NOFX disc than I've seen for this Rancid CD. It really doesn't matter what label it is on at the end of the day but I find that this big issue around it to be quite confusing.

Awesome disc though!!

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

It's his act.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

can someone please tell me why tim armstrong seems to be convinced that he's british? i mean, jesus...youre from california, so why do you have this horrible british accent?

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

thanks for the advice ramo. how did it feel the first time you came out of the closet and told your parents you liked tossing salads for $5 a pop?

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Matt freeman songs are great. Take Black Derby Jacket from the last album. I fucking love that song, and he sounds great in it. I just wanted 1. It wouldn't have hurt

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

i haven't listened to rancid in a long time but i will check this out only b/c i'm curious to see how they would follow up with rancid 2000 which was their worst record(but still better than most bands).

and by the way, i'm from the dc area, and rancid is doing the annual whfs festival along with thrice, deftones, staind, yellowcard, eve 6 and other horrible bands. commence rancid flaming in 3.....2.....1.....

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

First of all, why would you want a Matt Freeman leads song? He may be the best bassist in punk.. but he sounds terrible singing. I'm listening to the cd right now, so far I like how it's going... i was expecting a couple more speedy songs ala 2000. But it's real good, it feels like the first time i listened to AOCTW again.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

"i'm gay. should i tell my parents or not?"

it'll probably hurt their feelings....GO FOR IT!!!

anyway, my friend should have a copy of this by night time so i'll do the judging then. but "fall back down" is not happening for me.

Ramo
(no sir i don't like it)

MrOhio (August 19, 2003)

Awesome awesome awesome. Review wasn't that exciting, but it was still good.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

i'm gay. should i tell my parents or not?

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Hope this one is good. The mp3s on the website sound kickin', but the single sounds a whole lot like "Hey, Good Charlotte is popular, we should try that thing..."

--Cos

FortyMinutesWest (August 19, 2003)

Weeeee caps lock ahoy!

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Not their best, but damn near close,their fall tour with tiger army schould be killer-oldpunker-

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

I checked for this review an hour ago and nothing. Bout time!

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Listened to it for about 30 mins. On my way back from lunch. I dont care for the single. #3 song is good and catchy as hell. A few songs unfortunatly sound like they could've been on the transplants b-sides album (boooo for rancid). Much better first impression than i had for rancid 2000. That one is still their worst album in my opinion. I give it an 8 outta 10 for the first listen.

ripperwalk (August 19, 2003)

Perfect review for the perfect record. Too bad the song is called "Spirit of 87" though.

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Another great album from the best band in the world. After the first listen, I couldn't help feeling dissapointed that it was over and possibly another 3 years before another album. but, this album has a little bit of everything. Thank God there's alot of Vic Ruggiero B3 playing in it. he should be an official member. IMO, there's not a single bad song on here. The best songs are Fall Back Down, Red Hot Moon, Start Now, Memphis, tropical London and Otherside. There are many other great songs as well. The only thing missing is a Matt Freeman on lead vocals song. I wanted atleast 1.

Hold Your Head Up High Because Tomorrow You May Die!

PS-Some of these songs make a Rancid loyalist really despise Brody, even though that's not the purpose

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

Haven't had a chance to hear the record yet, but I think the review is well-done.

Analog_Boy (August 19, 2003)

Second...!

I like this one, sorta. Never really got into rancid. Just noticed the review pop up while I was browsing around. :O

Anonymous (August 19, 2003)

FIRST!!!

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