Posted by GreenVandal on 2004-05-09 20:41:58
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I think the main problem here is that if these dudes cared so much about preventing suicide, maybe they could have tried to get some good music on it. This sucks. No if ands or buts about it. Donate instead.

Posted by elvisdechico on 2003-12-23 23:05:07
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true story: this cd passed through like 4 people, before someone agreed to write a review that wasn't:

"this is supposed to PREVENT suicide?"

great idea and a great cause, but horrible music... even the planes song was weak :

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 26, 2003 at 9:54 AM (EDT)
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planes = amazing , deep elm = not amazing.

i have this comp and the planes song on here is the slowest song they've ever done. it sounds nothing like what they've done the last 3 years and it originally came out like 5 years ago, why they're using it now after planes has been off that label forever is beyond me.

Posted by i-type-poorly on 2003-09-18 21:39:39
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it's gonna be really ironic when half the bands on this comp die in van accidents over the next year.

Posted by Katie4213 on 2003-09-18 00:13:02
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my score is for jesse!!! he is the coolest

Posted by Jesse on 2003-09-17 20:56:59
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In rebuttle to being flamed by a guy who probably works at Deep Elm records, reviewing isn't my "profession." I'm an 18 year old kid attending college who's giving personal insight to other kids my same age who probably will have the same opinion as me. And dude, this CD blew ass.

Posted by maverick on 2003-09-17 12:31:09
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No one said a word about suicide at the Rockford stop [unless Brandtson did after their 3rd or 4th song, when I left]. Kinda disappointed me, I expected the night to be more unifying than it was.

Red Animal War ripped shit up, though.

-Scott

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 at 12:24 PM (EDT)
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You know, I'm sure the bands said things on most of the dates about suicide, but on the very last stop in Oklahoma City, all it was one huge party, and bands pouring beer on eachothers heads every set, and the bass player from Settlefish being wrapped up in the "Too Young To Die" tour banner and playing a whole set like that.

Oh, I was wrong about them not speaking about suicide...after Brandstons big finale, someone from some band ran up there and goes "thanks for coming out, um, like, dont kill yourself."

Posted by Nonsense on 2003-09-16 20:45:06
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There is nothing about Red Animal War that is "mediocre at best." They're one of the best bands making music today.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 at 5:53 PM (EDT)
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that one anonymous guy below has too much time

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 at 5:43 PM (EDT)
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you know, i love deep elm records, and i own just about every full length they've released, with the exception of that shit by david singer, and i am sorry to say that i think that big, moving article was written by some guy that works at the label or something.

i think this is a good comp. i think that it isn't as great as some other comps, and i agree that this review is bullshit, but that seemed to be a little too thought out and contrived to be a real anonymous kid who frequents the site, writing that.

the moral of the story is register. otherwise, your stories don't mean shit.

and why am i not registered? because i am wearing short, short pants.

Posted by funkisdead on 2003-09-16 17:37:39
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ramo
that record doesnt touch the fucking first raw album.. i really couldn't get into it, even though i loved the first one.
i think last days of april, angel youth, is the best record deep elm put out

Posted by ramo on 2003-09-16 13:30:17
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i know you're not sleeping on PMFS and RAW. "Black Phantom Crusades" is the best fuckin' album deep elm has put out (except for RAW's previous material). listen to that if you're tempted with suicide.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 at 1:28 PM (EDT)
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are we using suicide for a marketing ploy for our bands?

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 at 12:51 PM (EDT)
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Attention Punknews; beware of people like this

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“I'm not sure this CD completed its goal as stated in the above paragraph...After listening to it all the way through, I don't feel like I've been educated or become more aware of suicide.”

Moron...the songs aren’t there to educate you with facts and statistics about suicide. Rather “each song was hand-picked for lyrics that promote hope, faith, perseverance and survival,”

Echoing this sentiment, David Singer - one of the artists on the Too Young To Die tour (more on that later) - states in the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star (http://www.freelancestar.com/News/FLS/2003/032003/03282003/92048 6) "hopefully people who are struggling can identify with the lyrics of a song and know that they are not alone, that people have been through similar hardships and survived."

Still, if you’d like to learn more about youth suicide and how to prevent it, perhaps you should have exhibited an ounce of energy to open the booklet / liner notes which “include a Suicide Prevention Guide that could help you save a friend, plus other facts and information about suicide and depression.”

Instead, you decided to write a review where you would “take notes on the bad tracks to back up my dislike for them with actual proof.” Of course, in the end you “had given up on this practice because my notebook page was full.”

If you can’t take ten minutes to explain why “this sampler is chock full of crap,” then perhaps the reviewing profession isn’t really “your thing.” I mean, god forbid the reader get any reasoning to why this is so terrible because “it would be far too much effort to and outline bad points.”

Furthermore you conveniently omitted any mention the 31 date tour that accompanied the Too Young To Die comp. Thank god that Punknews.org has a few responsible folks running the ship. Just take it from Scott who actually supported the cause by attending a show;

“I saw Red Animal War on Friday night as a part of the Too Young To Die tour, and the rocked me senseless. Think of a mix between the melodicism of Jawbox and the angular sounds of the Ghost or the Honor System. This band should be huge.” (http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=5633)

How then, you ask, does five bands playing shows across the country have anything to do with teaching people about suicide prevention? Shannon Sutlief from the Dallas Observer has some insight to that;

“Besides playing their sets, the bands might also be speaking about suicide between songs. After all, it's something they care enough about to climb in vans and play a show every night for a month from Dallas to New York City back to Oklahoma City, including a stop in Austin during South by Southwest. They know; now they want others to be ready for battle.” (http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2003-03-13/calendar3.html/1 /index.html)

Hell, some of these bands might even have personal experiences. Myk Porter from Brandtson told me that one week before the tour began, one of his friends killed himself. Myk was sleeping down the hall when it happened.

And here’s Justin Wilson quoted the Cedar Falls Courier;

"We were very vocal about being one of the bands to go," says Wilson. "I've had some friends kill themselves; one I was really close to." (http://www.wcfcourier.com/special/pulse/030313suicide.html)

Y ou also forgot to mention how this comp has helped actual people in desperate situations...I should know, because I’m one of them.

I’d also like to hear about where you got your information about this statement;

“The old fashioned donating method is still available, and, you can be assured how much of your money is going towards it instead of the cryptic "a portion" that record labels advertise.”

I’m assuming you spoke to the AFSP or the label about how much was donated? What...you have no idea how much money was raised? You’re totally speaking out of your ass? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Oh, and can I see the receipt from all the money you donated toward suicide prevention? I mean, I have absolutely no proof whether you did or didn’t, but apparently that doesn’t matter much in your world.

You’re an idiot, and before writing this critique of your pathetic review, I jotted down a few notes to back up this statement and let the good people at Punknews.org know what a complete schmuck you are. The difference between you and I is that after a page and a half of hypothesizing about what makes some snot nosed teenager think he has half a clue about anything, I decided to take the time and effort and actually type it up.

Keep writing those brilliant, informative, well-versed reviews, jackass.

At least you got one thing right;

“And now, the most important part of this review, the website for The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention: www.afsp.org. Please check out this website and donate if you are able.”

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 at 10:59 AM (EDT)
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Nice rip-off of the Hot Water Music logo. C'mon guys, you think no one would notice?

Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2003-09-16 01:09:52
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PMFS and Red Animal War are great.