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Hot Water Music

A Flight and a Crash
2001
Epitaph

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Review by: Aubin
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Published on May 24th 2001


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    Posted by keithus on 2009-11-03 19:33:04

    This album is special to me because it was my first HWM album and they are probably my favorite band. The first song I ever heard was "Jack of All Trades" from one of the Punk-O-Rama discs and I fell in love with it from the 1st listen.

    These 4 guys are all amazing musicians and and I love all the Epitaph releases but this is the last album that really showcases their musical ability. I always considered this their transition from the complex rhythms and guitar assault of their early work to the more mainstream radio friendly sound of their last 2 records.

    The only negatives are that it's a little long at 14 tracks and there's definitely some filler.

    Posted by drugmoney on 2009-08-11 22:38:22
    My Score:

    confused, score is for the album it self

    Posted by scientistrock on 2008-05-05 21:27:02

    Hate Game

    Posted by scientistrock on 2008-05-05 21:26:42
    My Score:

    You combined two of the greatest things ever here. Also, might be my favorite hwm record. If not, it's second only to Fuel For The Hare Game. Yay Calvin and Hobbes!

    Posted by londonpunk on 2008-04-26 11:55:50
    My Score:

    Good record. Not as good as most of their other stuff, but better than The New What Next. Which is still really good!

    Posted by drewshaw on 2008-01-02 09:22:07
    My Score:

    awesome record. i find it gets a little long about three quarters through though... but then drives it home nicely

    Posted by RondoMondo on 2007-12-03 15:20:39
    My Score:

    Most epic review ever.

    Posted by strungoutferriswheel on 2007-07-22 01:48:23
    My Score:

    this is my favorite review of all time

    Posted by mcpike on 2007-01-31 01:25:25
    My Score:

    this is probably my favorite review

    Posted by MattWreck on 2006-11-10 10:32:37
    My Score:

    This is your best review ever, Aubin.

    Posted by sk8punx4evr on 2003-05-29 23:10:36
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    good review, good album. my first hwm but now i'm anxious to look into their other stuff. i'd say one of the best tunes is "choked and separated."

    the book hot water music is good as well.

    Posted by CaptainCrunch on 2003-02-05 01:05:09
    My Score:

    This score is for that review....

    Hands down, the most creative, innovative and funny review I have ever read anywhere covering any type of media. Awesome.

    Thats one of the reasons that I love this site.

    -Captain Crunch

    Posted by pwfanatic on 2003-01-07 22:12:04
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    if the new top tens of 2002 happen to kick this review off of the top ten, than that would just plain suck. this is hands down one of the more original reviews that i have seen in a long time.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 8:09 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I took this review from 10th to 8th on the all time most popular reviews list for Punknews.org.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 6:59 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Great album, better review.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 18, 2002 at 6:18 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    haha i hope rory is being sarcastic, otherwise i'd say he's the biggest fucking idiot ever. trying to be greenday? greenday is poppunkish stuff, hwm is not close. and greenday wasnt close to "one of the first punk bands ever" . plus hwm's name came from a book. so stop talking, you're just embarrassing yourself

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 12:51 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    The thing about hwm is that they are not for everyone. At first I had to get past the vocals and realized how tight and original their music is. Then I started to like the vocals and their positive messages. this isn't their best album...but its still really good.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 6:14 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Pretty weak effort. I hope the next one is better. Paper Thin is the only decent song.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 1, 2002 at 4:24 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The first time I heard hwm I hated them and I thought that the singer voice was annoying, But I listened to them a couple time and now I love them

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 11, 2002 at 3:13 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Yeah, my other beef with Pennywise is that I hate anarchy.

    -Sr. Potpourri

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 4, 2002 at 9:23 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This album is a HUGE disapointment. Hot Water Music is one of the best bands out there right now...and i hope to the great ronnie james dio that they have not lost their edge forever. I can only imagine that they realized that "flight and a crash" is not what they should be doing, and actully put some time into their next album restoring my faith in DIO!

    Posted by dezirzeke on 2002-02-02 01:33:31
    My Score:

    This is a good album. Hot Water Music owns you.

    Although, CDs don't do this band justice.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 8:16 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    i hate this album, but i give it 5 stars, perfect 10!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 8:52 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    sorry thats supposed to have 1/2 a star

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 8:50 AM (EST)
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    this is the absolute worst hot water music record..period..it sucks....i listened to it twice and through it out of my car... if you want good hwm the go get "fuel for the hate game" or "forever and counting"..this was light on the flight and more of a crash in my book...

    Posted by MusicIsMyLife on 2001-11-19 20:15:17
    My Score:

    Mega high five to Aubin for that amazing review.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 19, 2001 at 11:46 AM (EST)
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    can you whine anymore eddie?you sound like a little bitch.- fathead

    Posted by OedipusWrecks on 2001-11-17 12:56:24
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    I don't know where you got the idea that I'm "obsessed" with Gwen. I mean you like certains bands and kinds of music too, but you know you're not OBSESSED with them and neither do I, I just happen to like No Doubt, that's all. Besides, I don't think it's right to meddle with my personal life and accuse me of having certain feelings and issues that I believe I do NOT have. Why don't you mind your own business, go listen to Assorted Jellybeans somewhere or something....they really suck.

    -Eddie W.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 16, 2001 at 1:15 PM (EST)
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    Pennywise? CORRUPTING punk? The only beef i have with PW is that they and NOFX are the only bands people think I listen to just because I like punk, but it's not their fault that they've gotten that big.

    -Sr. Potpourri

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 1:17 PM (EST)
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    ok Ed, I think you have a little bit of an obsession with Gwen. there are support groups for these kind of disorders you know.

    as for Hot Water Music, they put on a good live show, but I just don't hear the big buzz that everyone is going nuts over. they're decent, but I don't find them amazing or remarkable.- fathead

    Posted by OedipusWrecks on 2001-11-10 13:10:14
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    I think Calvin's dad made a very good point. Have any of you ever noticed how Pennywise came along and corrupted punk music? Everything they come in contact with gets tainted somehow and they ruin punk for everyone. I think we should have them executed, or at least their drummer. I heard a rumor that he turned down Gwen Stefani for a date. He made a poor choice. She's hot.

    -Eddie W.

    Posted by OedipusWrecks on 2001-11-10 13:08:57
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    I think Calvin's dad made a very good point. Have any of you ever noticed how Pennywise came along and corrupted punk music? Everything they come in contact with gets tainted somehow and they ruin punk for everyone. I think we should have them executed, or at least their drummer. I heard a rumor that he turned down Gwen Stefani for a date. He made a poor choice. She's hot.

    Posted by WinstonFeatherby on 2001-11-03 05:10:37
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    Dude, Hot Water Music are five fat bearded cowboys who realized the punk scene was easy to exploit and gave it a shot. All you suckers fell for it too. America wishes it was the punk rock powerhouse that Great Britain is. Oh yeah, and Florida sucks too. Go suck on an orange.

    Winnie

    Posted by Larry_Lawrence on 2001-11-02 03:47:56
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    I saw leatherface in indianapolis last year. The singer threw a hissy fit and stormed of stage. He was pissed at the sound guy because the audience wasn't getting to hear "the real leatherface". The rest of the band seemed apologetic. Who's Hot Water Music?

    *LARRY LAWRENCE*

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 2, 2001 at 2:21 AM (EST)
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    Lame name calling? I think that hot water music is at fault here. They came up with the name. Fuck them.

    -Rory

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 1, 2001 at 11:01 PM (EST)
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    Hot Urine Music? Man, that just seeps with creativity and maturity. Why degrade a hard working band? They've done more for people than you ever will with your lame name calling.

    -John B

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 2:48 PM (EST)
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    Hot Water Music? More like Hot Fucking Horrible Music. They just want to be greenday. greenday rules. They were one of the first punk bands ever. Fuck hot urine music.

    -Rory

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2001 at 7:51 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This one's really good, but Fuel for the Hate Game is their best

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 10:23 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    It's a damn good album, some of the tracks ('Jack Of All Trades' and 'She Takes It So Well') are the best they've ever done, but some songs do have a filler feel to them. I love HWM, but i still think 'Forever&Counting' is by far their best album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 28, 2001 at 7:28 AM (EDT)
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    Yo fathead, I hated the vocals too. They kinda sounded weak...threw me off my track. I was really hoping for a good cd when I picked this one up. Oh yeah, and your mom does have catapillars in her vagina.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 16, 2001 at 1:37 PM (EDT)
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    Not their best effort so far. But thats me in a nutshell I guess.
    Chuck has great fucking voice, no doubt!
    Reminds me a lot of Micke in Adhesive. Both are really good singers, but switch really smooth from a clear voice to more aggressive yelling.
    Memorable songs (and probably live anthems) are; Jack of all trades, Swinger and of course the incredible Paper thin.
    Mark Allister.

    Posted by icK-x-Strife on 2001-09-06 22:38:10
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    Aubin that review was simply genius. After reading this I pulled out some of my old Calvin & Hobbes books out from the closet. Good times.

    - icK-x-Strife

    Posted by pat41 on 2001-09-04 01:44:40
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    I agree with the last guy.. ive neveer heard the album but the review kicks ass!

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 24, 2001 at 10:23 AM (EDT)
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    Never heard the cd, but I give it 10 cuz of the review, nice nice nice review, I might actually go and like buy htis cd now cuz of the review, lol

    Posted by trav121 on 2001-08-17 23:32:38
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    this's a pretty sweet cd. they sound like they're trying to go more hard core than punk though. it's not all that great, most of it's not terrible, but the good songs on it are damn good. it does grow on you the more you listen to it, so maybe i have yet to reach that peak. it's still damn good.
    -trav

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 17, 2001 at 12:44 AM (EDT)
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    Oh my god, this cd is fucking incredible. This has to be one of my favorite albums of all time. My favorite songs are Swinger, She takes it so well and Jack of all trades.i saw them live in Chicago (fireside bowl)around april and they are sooo awesome. HWM kicks ass ! thanks nathan for getting me into punk rock.

    Posted by punk_kid on 2001-08-16 20:27:03
    My Score:

    reminds me of jawbreaker

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 13, 2001 at 3:00 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    album fucking rocks, poetry clashes with dueling guitars, a furious base, and slamming drums to create a pure essence in each song. get it now

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 9, 2001 at 2:34 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    that was funny, really.-fathead

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 9, 2001 at 1:59 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    yer mom has caterpillars in her vagina.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 5, 2001 at 5:00 PM (EDT)
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    you all might hate me for this, but i cant listen to hwm. his voice is terrible. their music is rockin, but the vocals are just bad.- fathead

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 4, 2001 at 9:24 PM (EDT)
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    Just for the record, I saw Hot Water Music live with Leatherface sometime midway through June.

    If I wasn't the biggest HWM fan before that, I sure as hell am now. They will spellbind you. Give em a shot.

    -Lars

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 1, 2001 at 1:34 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Bahahaha

    Ok I am now a fan of Aubin. I haven't even heard the album, but i fucking love the review!! Calvin & Hobbes kick ass!

    Posted by coldjuly on 2001-06-26 14:27:54
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    ahhh hot water music....yet another amazing album! Yes it is a more polished recording..but still manages to keep their rawness alive. "jack of all trades" "she takes it so well" and "in the gray" are the best on the CD...I recommend this to anyone. No matter what your musical tastes..This album WILL grow on you.

    Posted by peppe on 2001-06-08 03:58:14
    My Score:

    outstanding

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 6:27 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    mr. calvin and hobbes: have you read hot water music?

    fuel for the hate game.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 3:18 PM (EDT)
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    this is soooooo disappointing. love all of HWM's stuff, but this is too overproduced and sounds like trying too hard to fit into Epitaph style. im off to cry :(

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 9:11 AM (EDT)
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    I wasn't too impressed with them at warped tour last year. granted,they only get 1/2 an hour, but there were many more bands better than them(snapcase,afi). as for this album, i have no idea, I dont even care. I'm gonna get h20's new one and submit a review for it next week. peace- fathead

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 3:16 AM (EDT)
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    To Josip...
    If you do not like the new songs, then go with either Fuel for the Hate game or Forever and Counting. No Division is DEFINITELY not better than either of those. id even pick Finding the Rhythms over No Division.But go see them live, they are incredible. Also pick up their album "Live at the hardback". Its the best of both worlds. Live and recorded music. Incredible.As far as the new HWM, ive heard a few songs, and although a bit more rock n roll, and way overproduced, it is still good. I am very looking forward to it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 2:40 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    I can't stand this band. They suck.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 28, 2001 at 11:32 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    In my opinion, the HWM album No Division is the best; however, they are all great and have their own sound and theme.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 25, 2001 at 5:06 PM (EDT)
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    great reveiw, one of the best and most original ones i have ever seen, good job. also hwm is awsome live.

    Posted by Josip on 2001-05-25 16:45:21
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    1. awesome review, good idea 2. i have a question, i've heard so many good things about hot water music, that i want to buy a cd of them, they also come to my town in 2 weeks, is this the best hwm-record? or is there something better? i've heard their track on the new punk-o-rama and the mp3 from the epitaph-site, but this songs aren't good in my opinion, is THIS the typical hwm-style, or have the changed a little bit?

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 25, 2001 at 11:45 AM (EDT)
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    that was a great review, but...
    Did anyone else's screen show a picture of the new HWM CD, and then it just disappeared? Where did it go? AAAAAAAAAA!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 7:08 PM (EDT)
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    yes i hope the album is as brilliant and creative is that review. I am a happier person because of that review. great job

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 12:31 PM (EDT)
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    Out of the 20 or so books i've read in my entire life, about 12 of them are calvin and hobbes. something under the bed is drooling and homicydal psyco jungle cat are my favs. i dont really like hot water music at all, but that was a kick ass review.

    Posted by AZNR on 2001-05-24 12:21:22
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    Yeah, that review was simply amazing. I hope the record justifies it (but I'm sure it will).

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 11:22 AM (EDT)
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    I think that is the best review I have ever seen in my life.