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Billy Talent

Billy Talent: Billy TalentBilly Talent (2003)
Warner Music Group

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Contributed by: maverickScott
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I haven't slept in roughly 32 hours, due to massive amounts of work due for my senior research paper due in a few weeks. If I do poorly on this project, I more or less won't graduate, so it's of utmost importance that I work my ass off with what little time I have left to make it the best I possibl.
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I haven't slept in roughly 32 hours, due to massive amounts of work due for my senior research paper due in a few weeks. If I do poorly on this project, I more or less won't graduate, so it's of utmost importance that I work my ass off with what little time I have left to make it the best I possibly can.

Oh yeah, my topic is "The Ethnography of Punk Rock."

Anyway, since I moved back in after New Years, I've been staying up later and later trying to get more and more done. This wouldn't be a problem if I also didn't have to get up relatively early in the morning, as well.

Luckily for me, Billy Talent's eponymous debut is a soundtrack to insomnia.

No, that's not an insult. Allow me to explain.

Billy Talent is a punchy, aggressive alternarock band with plenty of punk influence in their sound. The guitars are buzzsaw in nature, and singer Benjamin Kowalewicz's vocals are as fiercely spat out as Jello Biafra in his prime. You can hear the fire in his vocal chords as he belts out falsetto yell after falsetto yell. On the first listen, it almost comes off as comedic, but then once you pay attention to Kowalewicz's verbal lashings like "I'm insane, it's your fault... cry!" and "What you see is what you get! / Look at me and don't forget!," you realize the seriousness of emotion behind his booming countertenor.

The music for most of these songs just has a generally moody, morose, angry vibe to it. Album closer "Voices Of Violence" is three minutes of balls out punk rock, and breakout single "Try Honesty" is so goddamn catchy you'll be singing it in your sleep...

...if this album allowed you to sleep. Honestly, every time I get tired, I throw this CD on and my ears perk up at the sound of these four Canadians cutting their teeth on some of the most straightforward, no bullshit rock music I've heard in a long time. You can't not focus on the powerful vocals, the surprisingly hooky songwriting, and the so snotty-it's-endearing lyricism of Billy Talent. This CD could drive me insane if I don't stop playing it; I need to sleep sometime, don't I?

In short, this is the perfect "My great aunt Patty gave me a 10 dollar Best Buy gift card for Christmas - I can't buy anything for 10 bucks there!" CD. It's a shame that Billy Talent's being lumped in with the "emerging artists" on the 10 dollar or less rack, as this album is worth full price and then some. Surprisingly solid, enjoyable, and highly recommended.

 

 
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Sedrick (February 18, 2007)

Nice first album !

minni (February 1, 2007)

Ok some of you don't like billy talent thats fine then don't but i say bily talent fucking kicks ass :) so screw you people who do not like billy talent we seem to me doing fine without you

treos (July 29, 2006)

"billy talent sux they got no talent and should call it quits cuz no one likes them"

You're a retard clearly someone likes them. Secondly to the guy below me america doesnt suck, im not eevn american and i know this to be true because the receiving end of sirens rules and their american. Finally i saw a bio on much music and these guys are the real deal so for all you haters out there who think they suck because they get radio play, they struggled just as much as any other bands.

Anonymous (June 23, 2006)

i didn't see this coming from scott

rejectedbyrequest (April 29, 2006)

Ok first thing, Canada kicks Americas ass SOOOOO much. America sucks balls. This album was amazing. Billy Talent is awsome. AMERICA IS GAY!!!!

rylo6 (March 24, 2006)

Billy Talent rules. it's sweet that they are on this year's warped tour. The River Below is sick.

Anonymous (February 4, 2006)

billy talent sux they got no talent and should call it quits cuz no one likes them

Anonymous (January 25, 2006)

This album fucking rules. Their songs is full of energy a plus you never get teird of it. When I first got it I never stop playing it becuase it is so good. These guys are not posers or anything like that. If you don't have the album get it.

BILLY TALENT FAN

Anonymous (December 27, 2005)

it had it's moments

thejewvolta (December 22, 2005)

This is a really good record
but
I think
They need to get their shit on the road and get the new one out
Im growing impatient

Angel-Jin (September 22, 2005)

Pretty frickin sweet CD I must say. Very enjoyable.

aimee (July 12, 2005)

i love this band even more now i like their song "line&sinker" so much the singer has an awesome voice !!

aimee (July 12, 2005)

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simon_dies (March 4, 2005)

I could not stop listening to this cd...so I memorized a lot of it so I could play it over in my head during school. I'm listening to it now. Fuckin awesome stuff.

Anonymous (January 30, 2005)

Billy Talent rocks! So does Canada! That is why I live here!

Anonymous (January 17, 2005)

billy talent kicks major ass.....i love them!!!.....i listen to their cd alot..even my 48 year old dad likes them!!!!come on thats gotta tell you something cause this man has been partying since the day he could and he knows alot of great shit and if he has the billy talent cd in his truck and knows most of the words.....well...then ......

cant wait for their new cd!! its gunna rock!

Anonymous (January 9, 2005)

This Record is the best punk record ever! I've listen to punk since billy idol but billy talent really kick ass!

Anonymous (December 18, 2004)

Now the the initial buzz has worn down, let me say this:

THIS RECORD WAS THE MOST PUNK ROCK RECORD OF THE YEAR.

Amazing album.

billytalentroxmysox (November 16, 2004)

this is for all the haters out there whou gave this album anything less that a 7, ur a fucking idiot

Anonymous (October 3, 2004)

they can rock!! but some songs are more fillers than killers. but a good record

Anonymous (September 22, 2004)

i've just a word to say : Pat Jablonski

Anonymous (August 16, 2004)

You gotta give props to this band for bringing out real punk rock to crappy mainstream music.

Anonymous (July 19, 2004)

Billy Talent are fuckin awesome.

Anonymous (July 14, 2004)

For some reason I really dig this cd.

Anonymous (July 8, 2004)

Superr Cool!

chrisafi (June 26, 2004)

DUDE!

Finally, this is what I have been looking for for a while.
A no frills, no fancy stuff hardcore punk CD.

All the songs are so good, and Standing In The Rain has gatecrashed my top 10 songs ever, which is normally harder to get into than my girlfriends pants after I call her a cheap slapper. Great album , and I am just waiting for the next album from them. I'm sure it will be amazing once again.

Anonymous (June 14, 2004)

Truly a great album. i hope these guys stick around for a while

Anonymous (June 3, 2004)

if this album gets some kids who have been raised by the family television, and the rest of america's bullshit pop culture, thinking critically about even a few socio-political issues, then good on billy talent.

broader appeal for the punk movement isn't necessarily a bad thing.

lanny mcdonald and theoren fleury were my hockey hero's as a kid growing up in calgary

Anonymous (April 12, 2004)

This is pretty good... I bought it before Feb. vacation and it made me happy. The lyrics aren't as deep as I'd like them though. I think this is a homework disk for the whole time I'm in middle/high school

Anonymous (January 19, 2004)

speaking of when the canucks made it to the finals....how about that pavel bure penalty shot eh?

FortyMinutesWest (January 19, 2004)

"...and as much as I love the Pens (I still do... Koltsov for rookie of the year!) I gotta say, I loved the Naslund for Stoyanov trade. Almost made up for us trading Neely for next to nothing..."

Ugh, that trade still hurts. Koltsov is great, as is Orpik. I'm glad to see some of the young guys developing.

mikeinflames (January 19, 2004)

I don't get where everyone is getting this Billy Talent sounding like The Living End
I'll admit the singers voice sounds the same ... but The Living End sound a hell of a lot better than Billy Talent

Anonymous (January 19, 2004)

I remember that save... The Pens have been my favorite team since I was just a wee lad, but in these parts, we call Kirk McLean's save on Robert Reichel (then of Calgary) in game 7, overtime round 1, the year the Canucks went to the final, "the save".

...evildeadalive

...and as much as I love the Pens (I still do... Koltsov for rookie of the year!) I gotta say, I loved the Naslund for Stoyanov trade. Almost made up for us trading Neely for next to nothing...

Anonymous (January 19, 2004)

Now don't get me wrongz Billy Talentis a great band and all but im sorry im a huge fan of the Dead Kennedys and uh Benjamin's vocals don't come close to Jello Biafra's. You should get some sleep Scott and listen to them once more.

Anonymous (January 19, 2004)

And it felt goooooooood.

-BSD

Anonymous (January 18, 2004)

bsd just called scott a negroid...

Anonymous (January 17, 2004)

Shut up negroid.

Count me as the elitist who does nothing productive except brag about his music but still listens to better music than that Maverick guy.

-BSD

maverick (January 17, 2004)

"ethnography is the study and systematic recording of human cultures or a descriptive work derived thereform...how are you relating or describing a systematic recording of human cultures about punk rock??...uh oh, somebody better find a new topic!!!"

I'm looking at it from the perspective that punk rock has created a viable community over the past 25 years or whatnot. I'm actually adapting my topic slightly and aiming my RQ towards the internet, using this website as my focus group, essentially.

-Scott

Anonymous (January 17, 2004)

this string of comments makes me want to cry and go back to when i was 10 and played hockey every day all day.

FortyMinutesWest (January 16, 2004)

Pietrangelo made what is referred to as "the save". Big time glove save in the playoffs.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

The man with 3 first names (they always called him that on Sportspage here in BC)- Frank Pietrangelo (sp?). Old pens backup to Barrasso, which is a pretty sweet name itself...

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

Vincent Riendeu (sp?) was the man for a brief period of time.

and below i said Brent Fedyk because he was the 3rd guy on the Crazy 8's line.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

hi we're bill talentless...and we like to copy the living end!!

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

ethnography is the study and systematic recording of human cultures or a descriptive work derived thereform...how are you relating or describing a systematic recording of human cultures about punk rock??...uh oh, somebody better find a new topic!!!

anyway...these guys blow and definitely belong on the "$10" rack

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

Yeah, whats up with the counter Scott?

-sickboi

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

This has only been read 89 times....HAHAHAHAHAH. I somehow find that hard to believe..

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

Fuck canada.

boba_fett (January 16, 2004)

Rick Tabaracci. what more do i have to say?

Ron Hextall, Clint Malarchuk, Don Beaupre, Bob Essensa. great goalies.

and greatest name of all time: Vyachslev Butzchevich. i might have spelt that wrong, but he played for philly in 94.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

the reason he did shit when he was w/the rangers was A. he was coming off a near carreer-ending injury when he went face first into the ice shattering the bones of his face, he went into the ice unconscious after checking someone in the corner; he was never the same and
B. the rangers suck, all their management does is go out and buy the most expensive players w/ no attention to chemistry. to many primadonnas and people who dont' like each other. how else do u explain a team w/ the highest payroll in hockey that has missed the playoffs consistently. its a talent abyss. kovalev sux their too. so does nedved, holik, lindros, kasparitis doesnt hit anymore, and yea, stevens sucked their too.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

kevin stevens did shit when he was with rangers, only thing he did notable there was snort coke off a hooker's ass crack.

FortyMinutesWest (January 16, 2004)

"Is everybody forgeting the man with three first names? I know you know this one forty."

The only one I can think of is Jean-Francois Jacques, but he's just a prospect.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

someone better tell me who else was on the crazy 8's line, i swear it was renberg but i know i'm wrong. was it reichel? gratton? fuck! tell me! yea mario does play w/ a bunch of stiffs, its sad when i go to games and people are like 'cmon mario, what hte fuck' when its like, yo , he's fucking 38 plahying w/ highschool players, he's not gonna get 50 goals like that.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

Brent Fedyk.

in their younger years i'd go Gretzky, but as they get older i have to say Mario. His production stayed pretty consistent even through injuries while Wayne's dropped some.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

I don't really think Lindros fucking Brind Amours wife was why he was traded... but that's another story.
I agree with the dude below, it's all about Pelle Lindberg. That dude was my favorite, til he drove into a fucking wall and died...
Who can remember the 3rd player on the crazy 8's? Hint, it ain't Renberg.
I think I'd take Mario over Wayne... When he plays he's still dominant, more so than Wayne was this late in his career, and Mario's playing with complete stiffs.
Is everybody forgeting the man with three first names? I know you know this one forty.

...evildeadalive

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

This band is an audio suppository. Any and all attemps to like this band should be met with violent resistance.

kirbypuckett (January 16, 2004)

I could go for a Tim Hortons or two. He used to sign my pay checks when I worked at Wendy's.

Now Larry Mondry does for the great CompUSA.

- Kirby

Conduit (January 16, 2004)

This score is for the comments on this review going from fighting about Billy Talent to fighting about Canada vs. the US in general, to Hockey talk.

Classic.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

Basil was the shit.

FortyMinutesWest (January 16, 2004)

Maybe now we'll have Tim Hortons in the Burgh. That would be sweet.

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

P P FUCKING S

I forgot to mention that Basil Macrae is a cousin of mine. No shit

Barkley

Anonymous (January 16, 2004)

I spent all the money I had as a grubby youngster on fucking hockey cards and those stickers. They were as good back then as listening to the BRONX is now (GILBY FUCKING CLARK baby!) You can only have so many Basil Macrae's out there before Hockey gets boring. Hey to the dude who posted below about Randy Carlyle and shit (I HAD A CANUCK TEAR OF JOY IN MY FUCKING EYEBALL)

This one goes out to the Quebec Nordiques and Dan Daoust with a dash of Guy Larose on top of it.

Barkley (Freezing his ass off in minus 40 weather right now, plus 2 boot our beloved TIM HORTONS well I love it, has been bought by an American Company? Damn you Yankees, naw you gave me Bad Religion your ok)

ThatotherGuy (January 15, 2004)

More like Billy No Talent...Yeah, I got nothing.

THAT GUY

kirbypuckett (January 15, 2004)

I'm taking Mario too, because I'm from the 'Burgh.

This is the best thread in the history of PNdotO.

- Kirby

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Gino's fights: http://www.hockeyfights.com/player.asp?pid=21

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Gino Odjick!

I heard a hindu guy say that as "Gee No Oh Dick"

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

peter zezel

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

hockeydb.com is awesome. When they have hockey trivia on CTV, I always go there for the stats.

Billy Talent - S/T

S/T stands for "Shitty Talent"

destroyingthescene (January 15, 2004)

The Crazy 8 line from Philly was sweet, but it wasn't Renberg, as he was #19, though wew was one the Legion of Doom line with Lindros and LeClair. Then Lindros had to go fuck around with Rod Brind'Amour's wife, causing him to get traded and ruining his career. Man, Lindros needs another concussion bad...

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

BOOOO!!! Billy Talent proves that most artist from Canada sucks. Sure theres like 3 or 4 good bands from Canada but most of them suck. Billy Talent has no talent and comes across sounding like a harder Simple Plan. Simple Plan eats ass.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

i say from now on, any time an album that no one really cares about is reviewed, we just start talking about hockey instead of shit talking each other.
theo fleury is #50 on all time scoring list, i believe he is either in AA or on a bender right now.
remember the crazy 8's line? recchi, lindros and renberg. man i hate philly.
lets go pens!
oh yea hockeydb.com is the shit thanks to whoever directed me there

beaarthur (January 15, 2004)

Pelle Lindberg

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Suck on these

Gino Cavallini
Gaetan Duchesne
John Ogrodnick
Doug Smail
Anton Stastny
Randy Cunneyworth
Jim Sandlak
Brian Propp
Doug Houda

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

This record rocks. Fuck the haters.

FortyMinutesWest (January 15, 2004)

Jimmy Waite
Brian Lawton
Jarmo Myllys
Pierre Sevigny
Scott Scissons

inagreendase (January 15, 2004)

I could always break out my NHL Pro Set cards and go through the sheets. Man those cards sucked. Upper Deck Collector's Choice was the shit.

Glenn Healy
Dave Schultz
Ken Gernander

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

"What the hell is going on in this thread?"

You see Scott, the Billy Talent S/T album sucks soooooo fucking much that we have to talk about Canada's #1 sport of hockey. Your review sucked FUCKER.!

FortyMinutesWest (January 15, 2004)

Scott, hockey is a force that cannot be resisted, just give in!

p.s.

Rick Wamsley!

maverick (January 15, 2004)

What the hell is going on in this thread?

-Scott

FortyMinutesWest (January 15, 2004)

Hmmm...

Daniel Berthiaume
Jamie Baker
Kelly Kisio
Enrico Ciccone
Chris Nilan
Darren Rumble is still hanging around.
Blaine Lacher

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Two words.... Gary Leeman

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

i agree that gretzky was too respected but as a pittsburgh native i also know that lemieux is respected to and isnt hit as much as other players. however, lemieux is also 6'4'' and has snapped and kicked some ass in his day too. another major difference why mario is better than gretz is that mario did not have the supporting cast gretzky did for most of his carreer. yea the 92-97 pens were sick, but from 84-89 he played w/ god awful players on his line, unlike gretzky who had like messier and kurri for alot of his carreer.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Fes, not Fez. Foreign Exchange Student.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Anyone wonder what kind if career gretsky would have had, if he would have been hitted and hooked like a regular player? And anyone wonder what kind of career Lemieux would have had if he had been "respected" as Gretsky on the ice?

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

One of these days I'm definately gonna get an old school Harold Snepts Canucks jersey with the V.

What is the most frustrating about all these talks about the old school players is that I totally remember all the O-Pee-Chee hockey cards and Panini sticker books (not sure if these things were in the US or not but everyone who was a kid in the 80's in Canada knows what I'm talking about) from the early 80's that had all these classic guys. Makes me feel old and I'm only 25. The players now just don't seem to have the style that these guys had whether it was the big furry stache, no helmet or teeth, or crazy hair. Those guys looked like a bunch of truckers and farmers not the highly paid pretty boys that are in the league now. Fuck, I even had that 7" that the New York Rangers (Marcel Dionne, Ron Duguay, Brad Park, etc.) did that had the Hockey Sock Rock song on it. I wish I knew where that was cuz it would probably be pretty funny to listen to now. No wonder hockey isn't as good anymore.

Here's a few more beauties
Stan Smyl
Randy Carlyle
Rod Langway
Dave Babych
Mel Bridgeman
Rick Middleton
Christian Ruuttu
Rick Vaive

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

hey no cheating on the trivia! but yea it was brett hull. NOW the big question
MARIO or gretzky?
i'm taken mario, most pts/game avg of all time, if it wasnt for injuries he would own gretzky's records.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

More than one of the guys in this band look like Fez from That 70s Show (yknow, as opposed to all the other famous Fezes) making different faces.

I gotta say I like this band, especially since "Try Honesty" is one of the few songs that will save your sanity while working in Electronics at Target. Every time Billy Talent comes around on the video you realize you'll have a while until the obnoxious Spanish children's song.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

I'd have to say Brett Hull with that trivia answer below there, he had 86 in 1990-1991. If anyone is looking for a great hockey website check out www.hockeydb.com {Amazing like Billy Talent live!}

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Nice work destroying the scene, that is a good question. Plus Link Gaetz and Darren Puppa those are classic. One of my all time favorites that I totally forgot about is Mike Foligino

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Trivia-who had the most goals by a right winger in 1 season ? hint-he still plays in the league, he set the record in either 89 or 90

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

actually i believe the drinking age skips province to province.. 19 in ontario, 18 in manitoba, 19 in saskatchewan, 18 in alberta, 19 in BC... 18 in quebec, 19 in new brunswick, and nova scotia and newfoundland.. well i don't think they give a flying fuck how old you are as long as you are drunk.

how can you talk about canada and drinking and not mention pei. sure its small but its full of alcoholics. this record sucks but Peter Sidorkiewicz does not.

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Does anyoen else think the guitarist looks like claudio sanchez with an equally weird and mezmeroizing hairdo

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

Whats with the guitar player's huge/gay Static-X hair??

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

My rmates and I honestly play EA sports NHL on Genesis from time to time 94,95,and 96. Its great. My one rmate tried to get me a Winnipeg Jets Jersey. One drunken night we also did a google search after smoking about 8 bong loads and CONSTANTLY mentioning Moe Mantha TO A FUCKING ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE...great times. Other laugh generators were the aformentions in this threat like "Zalapski, Kordic

oh shit the best one of all time....

wait for it.....

Daren Puppa

Barkley

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

whoa I fucking forgot about my hockey post below there. Damn I could talk Ol skool all fucking day. Take that Allan Bester AND...Darren Pang

Barkley

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

The first song on the new get up kids "guilt show" is going to make anyone who loved "Something to Write Home About" Jizz

Barkley

Anonymous (January 15, 2004)

I dig this record.

My favorite hockey player name would either be ZARLEY ZALAPSKI or MAXIM BETS.

- Kirby

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

speaking of pure crap... this album is pure crap. So overproduced. There's like 8,000 overdubs for that one guitar.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Pure crap...

Best hockey name by far:

Hnat Domenichelli

Honorable mention to all the guys named Lubomir.

captaincrunch (January 14, 2004)

Does anyone remember when Gary Roberts cried on the ice??

Petr Klima
Rick Zombo
Gerard Gallant
Glen Hanlon
Dave Barr
Steve Chaisson
Tim Cheveldae

Old school Wings from when they weren't that great.

boba_fett (January 14, 2004)

mike ruutuu! jason weimer! paul ranheim!

i should open up the old collection of cards and look for some names but im too lazy.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

worst hockey player ever? Dale Hunter. I know from experience, ie: he was at a bar in London, grabbed a bunch of girls asses, so he got his fucking ass kicked by me. Word!

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

I love this album.. and they were great live when I saw them. It's nice to see a band display energy on stage - and they played every track except for the last two

destroyingthescene (January 14, 2004)

And Roenick is one ugly motherfucker, but I guess numerous sticks to the face will do that to ya!

destroyingthescene (January 14, 2004)

the 50 and 200 are:
Keith Tkachuk
Kevin Stevens
Brendan Shanahan
Gary Roberts

Boo ya!!

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

50 Goals and 200 minutes in penalties

Here's my best guess

Rick Tocchet
Jeremy Roenick
Eric Lindros
Tomas Steen (ha ha)

Can't think of a fourth player off the top of my head

FortyMinutesWest (January 14, 2004)

Per Djoos was no Tommy Sjodin.

What about Link Gaetz? Kicking ass, taking names, and breaking into random people's houses to piss on their couches.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Forty minutes west you know your hockey shit like I would have totally forgot about some of those great names. That's awesome your a big fan of Beukeboom like I am. Here's a great hockey trivia question one of my buddies asked me the other nite. I couldn't believe how he stumped a group of my hockey mad friends like he did

Who are the only four players in NHL history to score 50 goals and recieve 200 penalty minutes in the same season?
Clue: 3 are still in league and 1 retired in 2000 I believe

Bring back the Whalers and Peter Sidorkewicz as well

Plus Billy Talent brings the rock!

- Cur

inagreendase (January 14, 2004)

My favorite hockey name will always be

Per Joos.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Who gives a shit about all of you hating this record because Billy Talen get airplay or good promotion ... if you pretend to hate it, go out and buy some stuff nobody ever heard of and enjoy it all alone in your room, don`t ever tell anyone about the band/record you`ve just bought and hope the band breaks up so you can sell it as a collector item on ebay ... what I´m talking about is, that all you haters out there are so busy playing the role of the cool punkrock kiddy that you can`t even recognize a good record if it`s in front of you, just because you would have to admit that you like something that`s not entirely "punk" in your book ... please do me a favour and play your childhood games somewhere else ... this record beats most of the other releases in 2003 by far ...

i fail to see how not liking billy talent is childish.

FortyMinutesWest (January 14, 2004)

What about Jock Callander? Didn't he set some IHL record?

Or how about Jimmy Carson?

Some of my favorite hockey names:

Zarley Zalapski
Arto Blomsteen
Tony Twist

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Bester is good but he couldn't carry Mike Palmateer's jock to the rink. Or even Mike Liut's for that matter.

Clint Muthafukin' Malarchuk still had the craziest injury when he took that skate in the neck and bled like your thirteen year old sister after a night at R. Kelly's pad.

Need a couple more obscure 80's players?

Richard "the King" Brodeur
Pierre Mondou
Murray Bannerman
Hakan Loob

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

"... what I´m talking about is, that all you haters out there are so busy playing the role of the cool punkrock kiddy that you can`t even recognize a good record if it`s in front of you, just because you would have to admit that you like something that`s not entirely "punk" in your book ..."

Billy Talent = recognized as a horrible record

Jagr is hairy!

FortyMinutesWest (January 14, 2004)

Beukeboom is one of my all time favorites. I picked number 7 for Joe Mullen when I played, but my second choice was 23 for good ol' Beuks.

Forget Peter Ing, what about Alan Bester?

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

I love all the old hockey references, there is some great players being mentioned in there. Here's some that I thought of from some other team's that were money players:
1}Andre "red light" Raciot- Canadians sive goalie
2}Al Iafrate- Hardest shot ever
3}Chris Kontos- Tamoa sniper
4}Peter Ing-Backup for the leafs
5}Jeff Beukeboom- Tough as nails

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Is Jim Paek anchoring the defence on that team, because he is awesome. Wonder if he is in Korea now teaching kids to play hockey or something like that.

FortyMinutesWest (January 14, 2004)

Haha, I unlocked the '92 Pens in ESPN Hockey 2k4, but they have the wrong jerseys. What's up with that?

As for Stojanov, didn't he have an ear injury that fucked up his balance and forced him to retire? Or was that Stefan Bergfvist? Oh well, they both sucked.

Rusty Fitzgerald came to my junior high, I wanted to ask him how he made the NHL without any talent, but the teacher wouldn't let me.

kirbypuckett (January 14, 2004)

1992 Stanley Cup Penguin's Roster:

Young 1
Wregget 31
Lemieux 66
Francis 10
Jagr 68
Errey12
U. Samuelson 5
K. Samuelson 28
Recchi 8
Tocchet 92
Taglianetti 32
Stevens 25
Stanton 22
Roberts 28
Priestlay 18
Pietrangelo 40
Paek 2
Nelson 44
Murphy 55
Mulvenna 45
Mullen 7
McEachern 15
Leach 20
Loney 24
Jennings 3
Hrdina 38
Daniels 18
Coffey 77
Chychrun 6
Caufield 16
Borque 29
Barasso 35

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Billy talent?

Dave Shit.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

oh i didnt know these were supposed to be obscure penguins. well, how about alec stojanov? we traded marcus nasland for him in 97, one of the worst trades in pens history. alec no longer is in the league. nasland leads it in scoring today, and almost one the title last year.
i met jim paek, he spoke to my middle school at some point. and how cool is this. i went to highschool w/ ryan mullen (joeys son) and brian trottier's daugheter. ken wregget lived on my friends st, and a girl i graduated w/ dated martin straka for a bit. not to mention ryan malone was in the grade ahead of me. lets go pens! upper st. clair hs, represent!

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Dude,

You're just bustin' out old Penguins! Sure, some are fine examples of obscure guys (especially Tibbets and Moe Mantha) but Kevin Stevens was a star player whom everyone who followed hockey was well aware of. I agree that the dude was a head case but he was too good in his prime to be an obscure name.

Here's a couple more
Tony Tanti (great Gino hair)
Pete Peters
Tony McKegney (one of the first black players)
Paul Maclean (fierce stache back in his Jets days)

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Kevin Stevens is a god among little children.

What about Francios Leroux?

Perhaps a little Jim Paek?

You know you miss Wendall Young.

Peter Taglianetti is greatest than your father.

- Kirby

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

the best there was
the best there is
the best there ever will be...
PROBERT IS KING!

this score is for grimlock

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

i disagree. kevin stevens was a coke head and got caught w/ a hooker and reportedly would drink in the locker room (w/ many other of the 91 stanley cup winning pens), but managed several 50 goal seasons and was a great power forward. lets go pens!

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Alright my Harold Snepsts props is still holding strong but I'm gonna through you all a new one to chew on.

Please pay respects to the late great John Kordic. Nobody outside of Probert could injest mounds of cocaine and litres of alcohol and still put be able to kick ass on the rink.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

hahah, i'm from pittsburgh. yea tibbets was fucked up. it was great how mario used to defend him in interveiews like "he's come a long way, hes overcome many obstacles", like its an accomplishment to have made through a statutory rape charge etc. hey and we beat philly the other night ahahahhaa. i went to highschool w/ ryan malone and my friend trace played on a line w/ him in 97 USCHS

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

actually i believe the drinking age skips province to province.. 19 in ontario, 18 in manitoba, 19 in saskatchewan, 18 in alberta, 19 in BC... 18 in quebec, 19 in new brunswick, and nova scotia and newfoundland.. well i don't think they give a flying fuck how old you are as long as you are drunk.

and billy talent has the worst lyrics ever.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

sucker band for suckas

ashton (January 14, 2004)

are they really that terrible live? i refuse to belive it but since i've seen over 50 people say it i might have to belive it..i really really like the cd, it's a fresh breath of air from all the fucking indie crap.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

"Fuck with Canada and you fuck with D.O.A.... "
Not to mention Day-glo Abortions.
... and not to mention SNFU ...

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

Who gives a shit about all of you hating this record because Billy Talen get airplay or good promotion ... if you pretend to hate it, go out and buy some stuff nobody ever heard of and enjoy it all alone in your room, don`t ever tell anyone about the band/record you`ve just bought and hope the band breaks up so you can sell it as a collector item on ebay ... what I´m talking about is, that all you haters out there are so busy playing the role of the cool punkrock kiddy that you can`t even recognize a good record if it`s in front of you, just because you would have to admit that you like something that`s not entirely "punk" in your book ... please do me a favour and play your childhood games somewhere else ... this record beats most of the other releases in 2003 by far ...

PetroBPettson (January 14, 2004)

"Fuck with Canada and you fuck with D.O.A.... "
Not to mention Day-glo Abortions.

FortyMinutesWest (January 14, 2004)

Tikkanen was gritty, but Francois Leroux beat his ass. The Pens could use Leroux right about now.

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

You cannot possibly compare any of this bullshit to Jello Biafra. Seriously, that was some pure bullshit. Billy Talent sucks ass and if they were next to me, I'd tell them that.

destroyingthescene (January 14, 2004)

Yeah, I've only heard "Try Honesty" and it's pretty catchy. But I'm digging the obscure hockey references ... but the world needs more Esa Tikkanen's! That fucker was sweet ...

Anonymous (January 14, 2004)

this band is horrible

kirbypuckett (January 14, 2004)

I'll be sure to pick this one up tomorrow.

- Kirby

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Fuck with Canada and you fuck with D.O.A....

-BSD


not to mention the canadian subhumans who were WAY better than the british ones

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

at least canada isn't involved in a bullshit war for oil.

FortyMinutesWest (January 13, 2004)

"Billy Tibbetts played D for the Pittsburgh Penguins no? Thats hilarious. This one goes out to Moe Mantha and the Winnipeg Jets, and a special shout out to the Hartford Whalers circa 1991"

He was a forward with us. He's still around actually, last I heard he was with Manchester. The guy is out of his mind, after being traded to Philly he called Tom Kostopolous and threatened to kill him.

This score is for whoever made the Harold Snepsts reference. He was no Garth Butcher though.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Fuck with Canada and you fuck with D.O.A....

-BSD

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

"Oh, and I'm totally reviewing The Darkness' album."

I already did. It's a good review, too... Don't worry.

-BSD

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

these guys suck real hard.

boba_fett (January 13, 2004)

i must say i agree

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

i must say i hate this band

chimericalburst (January 13, 2004)

to answer the bold-letter-guy's question, i said no motiv's music didn't appeal to me, and one the other hand, i find billy talent's music very appealing. nothing to do with simplicity, i'm not sure where you got that.

cburst

boba_fett (January 13, 2004)

i dunno what to say, i live in quebec which is crap, canada is meh, the us is meh, the whole world is meh.

so in conclusion, i'd rather be in bora bora.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Why is it that whenever a Canadian band has a CD reviewed here, the Canada bashing and same old tired debate occurs? It's getting predictable and tiresome. Who cares where this band is from? All countries put out good and bad bands so why do the Canadian bands always have that stigma attached to them?

Props to Harold Snepsts (nobody could clear out the front of the net like him)

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

the score is for canadian support.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

kowalewicz? so, "koala-wich?" i'm willing to bet that's an australian delicacy. haha, i'm so lonely.

-sk8punx4evr

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

"any other problems you'd like to discuss?

cburst"

You dissed No Motiv for their simplistic music and you praise Billy Talent for their simplistic music. I have a problem with that.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Billy Tibbetts played D for the Pittsburgh Penguins no? Thats hilarious. This one goes out to Moe Mantha and the Winnipeg Jets, and a special shout out to the Hartford Whalers circa 1991.

Barkley

chimericalburst (January 13, 2004)

please excuse my punctuation and grammar. america (not american) and that first question about ghana should have had a period and not a question mark

chimericalburst (January 13, 2004)

i'm an american ex-patriot (sort of) who moved to canada 3 years ago. while canada may have a problem with americanization, and mayb even a decline in numerous sectors, its still an awesome country, vastly better than america. monopoly is a problem closely related to socialism, thereby you might say that american is increasingly canadianized (for examples in quebec: bell, videotron, tim hortons)(just kidding on that last one...sort of).

also, exporting marijuana is awesome. big ups on that, canada. ghana is seeking that as a development strategy? do you want ghanians to continue to live in abismal poverty because you have some silly social/cultural taboo on a comparatively (to tobacco and alchohol) harmless drug?

oh, and the other thing thats great about canada is the music! billy talent rocks! also, hot hot heat, propagandhi, weakerthans, constantines, fifth hour hero, st. catherines, death for every sin, a perfect murder, alexisonfire, boys night out, and tons of other bands.

any other problems you'd like to discuss?

cburst

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

I bought this CD on a lark. I wasn't expecting much at all, but I was sick of all my CDs. Long story short, this CD is much better than I thought it would be. The guitarist and bassist are obviously talented and the drummer plays some catchy beats. Mind blowing? No, but this album is good.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

I'm Canadian. The drinkng age is 19 in most places in Canada except for Quebec and Manitoba. While I am far from a patriot (pretty much as far away as you can be) I think that Americanization is a problem everywhere, not just Canada. I've never had a problem with school violence, nor have i witnessed anything that would suggest organized crime; bad music is everywhere, just like pop culture; and if you want to talk about canadian marijuana exports let's talk about how the US government partook in the drug trade to fund their war machine first...
as far as the corruption, capitalism and monopoly - i'll agree.

-ty

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Its 18 in some places, Montreal being one. Its 19 in others.

I'm completely nude all now.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

By the way, the drinking age is 18 in Canada Paul, not 19.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

this band is more than annoying live.

the cd is alright though.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Stick that cock pump in your mouth and shut the fuck up you ass fucking ass fucker!

Don't judge Canada on a surface level, you were there for a fucking spring break assclown.

You have to actual live in Canada to see all the Americanization. IT'S SUCKENING.

well, i wasnt saying canada is w/o problems, and yes, american cultural influence and political pressure has obviously had many effects on canada, both positive and negative. but in general, from people i have met and media i have viewed or read on canada, it appears to be much more open minded than the states. and who cares about marijuana exportation? so quit flipping out
paul

TheOneTrueBill (January 13, 2004)

I wrote a research paper on the evolution of punk in california a few years ago.

Talked about Bad Religion, TSOL, and the Dead Kennedys for the early 80s era.

Then "Into the Unknown" era BR, "Beneath the Shadows" TSOL, and "Prison Bound" Social D.

Then I talked about the 90s mainstream era, with Rancid, Green Day, and The Offspring.

I got a 98% from my hippy teacher.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

"the constant ethnocentric canada bashing from ignorant americans like some fuck a few posts down.... i spent my spring break 2 yrs ago there and had a blast.... canadians are much more friendly, talkative and open minded than americans."

Stick that cock pump in your mouth and shut the fuck up you ass fucking ass fucker!

Don't judge Canada on a surface level, you were there for a fucking spring break assclown.

You have to actual live in Canada to see all the Americanization. IT'S SUCKENING. The school violence, the pop culture, the Wal-Marts, the bad music, the organized crime, the out-of-control marijuana export ($40 billion/year), corruption, capitalism, monopoly! Canada already has become a part of the states. Modern democracy has failed us. World War III please.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Hey paul, don't forget the metric system.

...evildeadalive

inagreendase (January 13, 2004)

I'm sure the guy who stole my copy hates it but I enjoyed it.

I'll be the first of the posters to ask where the Living-End-sans-rockabilly comparison is.

FortyMinutesWest (January 13, 2004)

I prefer Billy Tibbets, at least he's good at statutory rape and making threatening phonecalls.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

whats up w/ the constant ethnocentric canada bashing from ignorant americans like some fuck a few posts down. i'm from the usa, and i would love to live in canada. they provide healthcare to all people (socialized healthcare), allow gay marrige, pot is nearly legal ( you aint goin to jail for it), the drinking age is 19, they dont involve themselves in world affairs, pissing off other coutries, they have a more logical system of government, lower crime rates, legal gambling in more than just a few cities like the us, hockey is the #1 sport and the beer is kickass (molson xxx, illegal here, will fuck your day up over the border). so say what u will about canadian music, but dont lump all of canada in there. i spent my spring break 2 yrs ago there and had a blast, canadians are much more friendly, talkative and open minded than americans.

as for billy talent, i heard the single,not impressed, sounded like radio nu-grunge

paul

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

I don't think I want riffs to fuck me in the ass. I don't want anything to fuck me in the ass come to think of it.

REALPUNX4LIFE (January 13, 2004)

I saw these guys open for the Buzzcocks and it was quite possibly the most embarassing thing ever. I feel really bad for these guys. No one should be forced to play such awful music with such an awful pose. The only problem is that they're not being forced to play it. Oh, the humanity! More like Billy No Talent!

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Billy Talent is just another big label 3-chord 4/4-time 8th-note pop-punk band with a wanna-be screamo vocalist hitting the already dead airwaves.

They are four talented musicians from state of Canada who has what it takes to make innovative music, not just on the overdone 8th-note catchy licks.

Sure, they've got an awesome frontman, but the one guitar, it's soooo bad and weak sounding live, it makes me wanna emo cry dance while the little youngsters slam dance to this shit.

So I ask... Scott, what are you smoking these days? Give me some of that! I wanna be stupid just like you so I can enjoy braindead crapopunk like this album.

ashton (January 13, 2004)

i love this cd, it's my #2 of the year. The riffs is fucking me in the ass every time i listen to it, people like to call this pop, and it is, but it's good fucking pop. it's pop that will fuck you in the ass.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

they probably suck because they got radio play and your little sister like them...

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

The only good song is their first single "try honesty" the rest of the album is CRAP.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

The name Billy Talent comes from the movie, "Hard Core Logo." Good fuckin movie, bad fuckin band.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

this score is for canada.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

the darkness are even worse, and i agree this is obviouslly the most ironic name in pop.

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Wow, we agree Scott. WORLDS COLLIDE.

Oh, and I'm totally reviewing The Darkness' album.

-sickboi

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

Whose bright idea what is to say that Billy has talent?

Anonymous (January 13, 2004)

first. and this band suck

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