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Published on February 21st 2004
I got beaten and slaughtered at this very site for having the guts to review the new Descendents EP on Fat Wreck without really being into the band’s 80’s material. Well let me tell you that The Descendents didn’t mean a lot to me and my friends in our younger years (they do now though), while The Subhumans were already huge in 1983 and the years after that because their first LP “The Country Died” was an instant classic. They sold over 100,000 copies of it, which I’m sure didn’t happen with The Descendents until more recently. Actually, when I think of my adolescence there’s only bands like 7 Seconds, Youth Brigade, J.F.A., Crass, Conflict, Dead Kennedy’s and Discharge that I can think of right now that meant as much to me as Subhumans did. That LP really was one of the reasons that I fell for punkrock in my younger years. People who liked this also liked:           Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
These guys are so fucking British. I love how ANY review's comments are quuickly reduced to mindless babble and moronic arguements. "a) Hatebreed fucking own Well, as stated in the review, I would go see them live if they were around and that's what I did a few days ago.... amazing show, and for once I wasn't the oldest person in the audience. I think they enjoyed themselves too, as they had 2 rounds of encores. Nice to hear "Mickey Mouse..." and "Subvert City" live after 20 years. This was and still is damn good punkrock. "If your come backs were a penis, they would have ED" i for one, am a younger guy (20) however, this cd rocks, i saw them live a week after this cd came out, dick was wearing the same damn shirt as on the picture inside the cd... and they sounded exactly like this cd, i dunno if this is good or bad, but im definately gonna see these guys again Has anyone ever noticed, whenever something bad is said about good punk albums it's usually a Hatebreed fan? Saw them live last night in San Diego. Bloody Amazing! Oh no! Keep jacking off your manliness, Mike. You're a joke to everyone else, might as well... If your come backs were a penis, they would have ED No, you like Hatebreed. a) Hatebreed fucking own Ok, who is the dumbass who said this is the first disappointing Live in a Dive. Obviously you didn't listen to Bracket Live in a Dive, unless you have it sitting next to your Good Charlotte and Simple Plan CDs. This is probably the only good punk to have come out in the past few years. Stupid posers. "First disappointing cd in the Dive series" What are you talking about fuckhead, I'm a big fan of Descendents. The only thing I wanted to explain is that Descendents didn't make that lot of a rumour with their first releases for ME PERSONALLY. Anybody else notice that the reviewer spent his entire first paragraph trying to redeem himself after getting slammed for his Descendents review? The whole paragraph he's talking about how punk he is, in fact, he's SO punk that he doesn't even like Descendents. Ok kids, you need to learn bands like the casualties are nothing...to even compare them to the subhumans..uggh just don't. If Ninjas liked punk rock I don't think they would like this album mmm... okay... what? Are you trying to compare the Casualties and The Subhumans? umm...Sorry little bro! Nice try, but Dick writes lyrics. The Casualties seem to paste them together out of other crappy songs. Fuckin' boring! i picked random songs. I had some mp3s of their older stuff, this is a better recording quality. I'd fucking love to be able to see the Subhumans live. Classic. Subhumans identical to the casualties? Okay, subhumas top priority: music, casualties top priority: hair gel and letting people know they play punk music by inserting the word punk into every fucking song! 5 little mokies jumping on the bed Subhumans identical to the casualties? Okay, subhumas top priority: music, casualties top priority: hair gel and letting people know they play punk music by inserting the word punk into every fucking song! Can't say I'm a subhumans fan, but i'd rather see Fatwreck releasing this than the next Lagwagon or No Use record... good charlotte is closer to the casualties than the subhumans are. The Subhumans are nothing like the fucking Casualties, you little piece of shit... Their music is unique, their lyrics are fantastic, and they never sink to the tribal sloganeering of bands like Anti-Flag and the Casualties. Let's see Jorge ever write a song like "No" or "Subvert City". The Canadian Subhumans started in the 70's... Didn't the Casualties start in the 80's? And the Subhumans start in the 70's? I could be wrong.... i agree. there's a bunch of morons that don't even listen to the music or are totally close minded. both bands are very similar, yet one get's praised and one doesn't. it really shows how little these teenyboppers know about music How can you hate the casualties so much, but like this band??? Fuck, just because this band's releasing an album on Fat, the attitudes change. What a fuckin joke. I love the Subhumans and love the Casualties and they are pretty much identical except for 2 things. 1. The subhumans started in the 80's 2. They're releasing an album on Fat yay for subhumans, yay for this reviewer for actually being intelligent. i find it extremely funny that people badmouth intelligent reviews while the people that go 'omfg this album is t3h rox!!! lol&**' get praised to high hell. go figure. thats the problem with mostly fans reviewing albums, mostly the only negitive reviews come from the staff or the rare occasion when a person's band puts out a genine shitty record. I still think that this is the best just for the wide variety of reivews done here by different people I tend to find that I don't actually read pitchfork reviews, rather I just look at the scores and move on because in the end they all come out sounding absolutely ridiculous and full of attempted metaphors that half of the readers don't understand the point they are trying to get across. The only problem I have with reviews on this site is that it is so incredibly rare to see an album get under 4 stars (only one in the new batch). your right it would hurt the readership, and I suppose it makes this place unique. I guess I can't have it both ways. BSD, did you just call Radiohead a joy division rip off? If so, your a dumbass. Pitchfork media reviewers are more concerned with trying to sound intelligent, hip, and oh so indie than they are with writing reviews. Each one is full of so much wordiness and bullshit that they make my high school english papers look short and to the point. Fuck that site. If you quality writing without pretention go to Delusions of Adequacy instead. great recording, great set. horrible review. kill yourself. Yeah, but Radiohead is part of the mass media that controls us, so that's just bullshit. If you want to open up your mind to odder music than the good old 3 chords, pick up a PiL album. If you are angry about a lot of politically-related things and don't want some Joy Division prog rip off's annoying voice, hunt down an old DK album or just order this from your local indy... This is the place for comments right? unrelated this is, but did the Unseen do a song called Acceptance? I looked at their site and everything, cant see the song, anyone know who the hell its by? Some lyrics: Acceptance that we may never know....or the last chance that i had to set things right, my thoughts wander off into the night... greg, you're a crappy person. nowhere in your comment was there any hint of a redeeming quality to your personality. Radiohead over Subhumans? Fuck you, Greg. greg... yeah, i thought he said "words" at first too, but upon further review, he did in fact say worlds. I don't listen to crap like metal. Haha, SOIA is about as metal as NFG is punk. yeah, i'm fucking stupid alright. did someone just say something about not being into metal when listening to a SOIA record? Oh, and I'm seeing them in 3 days!!!!! With New Mexican Disaster Squad. It doesn't get much better. Good review from a completely different perspective from me. What the fucking shit? What the fuck happened to news i submitted? Fuckers. "Silly me, thinking all along that the word "subvert" had its roots in the Latin phrase subvertere (meaning 'turn from beneath'). Luckily, before I could publicly embarass myself by exposing this mistaken belief, Hein came along to let me know that the Subhmans invented the word." Boy was I surprized by this review! I came into it expecting a mere description of the record, and I got not only that, but a lesson in etymology as well. Saw these guys live in Chicago because I the Bad Religion show was too expensive. And the Causaulties were there to, it wouldn't of been worth it. the subhumans are great. and they're going on tour! guy below me is awesome. This CD gets a fucking 10 because it's an amazing live recording of a band that has some of my favorite songs. "Society," "Work-Rest-Play-Die," and "Religious Wars" make this worth checking out. the subhumans fuckin suck. they are 10x suckier than the subhumans from Van. Good review. But I'm sure someone will find a glaring fault in it. |
