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Mumbler

The Winter of Our Discontent
2003
Salinas

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Review by: Jesse
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Published on May 7th 2004

It's raw, it's sloppy, it's gritty, it's six songs on a 45 sized 33, it's unimaginative, it's cliché, it's the same damn tempo every damn song, it's the same damn 4-5 chords reorganized, it's the off pitch vocals, it's the fact that they call themselves pop-punk on their website, it's the fact that they've broken up before their release gets reviewed.

That being said, it's also catchy, and entertaining. Sure the bass and guitar follow the exact same chords in every song, sure the drums aren't anything new, sure the lyrics are boring, but they really are heartfelt: "I wrote this song in a basement/these are the kids for whom it is meant/the dumb the ugly the drunk and the dirty/the ones who never fit in just like me."

I guess the best thing you can say about this record is that anyone could have made it, but you didn't, and they did. Plus, it's short.






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    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 11:19 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    The biggest fuckin Mumbler on the planet is Don Howes and I work with the guy. He's so goddamn squirrely and loves to drink.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-11 22:03:39
    My Score:

    You still got TRIPLE ZINGED.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2004-05-11 19:25:41
    My Score:

    Okay, you got me. I forgot about the other one. but in the end, playing grammer police when you have been insulted is much lamer then having a temporary lapse in intelligence.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 1:29 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Ok, so someone alerted me of this review. I wrote these songs, played guitar and sang everything on this record. I then put it out on my label.Is it raw? Yeah.Is it sloppy? Kinda.Is it gritty? Yes.Is it only 4-5 chords rearranged? Actually it's not.Is it all the same tempo? Pretty much, with one exception.Did I sing off key? Yes.Did we break up? Yes, though I'm not sure why that matters.In defense of this Jesse character that you all seem to dislike, it is, admittedly, not the best record ever. We kinda rushed into doing it so we could have something recorded with us on our summer tour. There's some songs I like on it and some I don't, and I still think there's a lot of heart behind it (which he notes,) but I guess that doesn't count too much for the guy.For me it's not the content or the brevity of the review that were bothersome, it's the air of pretension.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-11 11:55:55
    My Score:

    You're off on one thing about my poetry. I'll openly admit that I'm still a virgin.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 11:35 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Now if you wanna talk cliche, check out Jesse's poetry.
    College kid gets laid and writes poetry about it, with a touch of e.e. cummings.Wow! I haven't seen that in quite a few "literary journals" before.

    Posted by opivykid on 2004-05-10 14:49:16
    My Score:

    Wh4h4h4h4h4h4h4h4h4h4 J3ss3 y0u fucking idi07. Out 0f 29 r3vi3ws 7h47 y0u did, 0nly 2 0f th3 b4nds w3r3 g00d (d4, and hwm). D0n'7 7ry t0 c0v3r up y0ur mess(shi7, this w0rd d03sn'7 3v3n b3gin t0 d3scrib3 i7) 0f 4 r3vi3w!!11. S0, 4ft3r r34ding y0ur j0k3 t0 us 4ll, I d3cid3d 70 writ3 my 0wn r3vi3w, b3c4us3 i7's n07 p0ssibl3 t0 d0 w0rs3 7h4n 7his. Bi7ch!!3!!1!!6!

    ohh ya, and......

    pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d pwn3d

    Fucker.

    Posted by MarkieStabone on 2004-05-10 11:12:34
    My Score:

    At this point I just want the members of Mumbler to read the review and the whole resulting thread and kill themselves. Look what their shit has caused. I mean really.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-10 03:18:40
    My Score:

    It would hurt more if it came from someone who didn't name themselves after Operation Ivy.

    ZING.

    And if you say pwned again, I'll shove your computer up your l337 loving computer nerd ass.

    And yes, he did OWN me. I accept the fact that he took me to town on that one. I was laughing. Yours, on the other hand, just made me pity you for liking Op Ivy enough to name yourself after them.

    DOUBLE ZING.

    Posted by opivykid on 2004-05-09 22:27:58
    My Score:

    hahaha what a joke this is. Fucking grammer police everywear, and the fact that this review is quite possibely the worst thing iv'e ever red. Plus the fact that you got pwn3d to shit by MarkieStabone. Just stop reveiwing, please, because everyone who reads this WIIL feel dumer aftarwerds.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 at 10:04 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    If i changed the your into a you're instead, the sentence would basically read like this.

    "Ummm, your a hipster because you are reviews are always..."

    ^that could be the dumbest thing i've ever seen in my entire life. that fact that you were dumb enough to write this (obviously without thinking) completely discredits your opinions and you should stop talking.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-09 21:42:24
    My Score:

    Actually, I think that counts as a double ZING.

    DOUBLE ZING!!

    Aw, man, it was bad enough that you missed the grammar error in the first post...but to miss it again after I pointed it out?

    DOUBLE ZINGED.

    I'm on a fucking roll. Eat my pretentious hipster shit.

    TRIPLE ZINGED!!!

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-09 21:40:34
    My Score:

    Hey, dolt, it's the first "your" that's wrong. It should read:

    "you are a hipster"

    not

    "your a hipster"

    Indicating my possessiveness of "a hipster".

    ZING.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2004-05-09 20:25:11
    My Score:

    If i changed the your into a you're instead, the sentence would basically read like this.

    "Ummm, your a hipster because you are reviews are always..."

    Because "you're" is the combination of you and are, so that is what it means, you are, where as "your" shows possession, making it the correct word to use, because i am talking about the review you wrote, YOUR review, not that you are a review.

    If your gonna be a petty bastard and do a spellcheck on someones posts (and there is nothing I hate more then someone who cant think of anything to say, so they spellcheck you) , at least know what the fuck your doing.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-09 19:09:26
    My Score:

    "Ummm, your a hipster because your reviews are always about how the bands look or carry themselves, or how played out there stylistic bearings are. Also, there have been several reviews where you go in with a clear bias straight from the beginning. Thats not music reviewing, thats public masturbation."

    your = you're
    there = their

    Show me one example of my critique of how a band looks or carries itself (not including the packaging of their album or shitty choices for band and/or song titles).

    There's only so much you can say about a shitty band. Take a look at most of my reviews with a score higher than a 6. I break the music down musically in a review, but only if there is something there to break down.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2004-05-09 16:40:44
    My Score:

    Ummm, your a hipster because your reviews are always about how the bands look or carry themselves, or how played out there stylistic bearings are. Also, there have been several reviews where you go in with a clear bias straight from the beginning. Thats not music reviewing, thats public masturbation.

    Most of the albums you review, i agree wih you, but the way you say things is absolutely ridiculous. Its like you ridicule them for all this worthless scene and sound allegiance crap, when you could be bashing there shitty music.

    Posted by Jesse on 2004-05-09 11:04:49
    My Score:

    Seriously. This score is for that coment by MarkieStabone. That was amazing man. Yeah, I accept that this review isn't that in depth. Sorry. It was a 7inch sent out to me by Scott, and the band was broken up even before I got it in the mail. And just because I listen to Liars and think that I'm better than you doesn't make me a hipster. It just makes me better than you.

    (for all of those who are oblivious to sarcasm, this warning is for you.)

    And let me just say one thing: I like music because I like music. I don't pick up an album and go "Sweet! I bet this is obscure enough for no one to ever have heard of!" Just becasue I have a diffeent taste in music than you doesn't make me a hipster. I listen to all kinds of music, and my musical tastes shouldn't be defined by one or two reviews that I chose to make. If you look at the records I've chosen to review for this website, you'll see they follow no particular genre.

    Label me a "hipster" or a "scenester" if you want to. Since that's what I'm being known as, I might as well personify it to please you. But I guess that's only because you listen to bad music and don't have any concept of style. I'm going to go spend 25 minutes working on my faux-hawk and practicing frowning in front of a mirror.

    Posted by BSD on 2004-05-09 01:19:45
    My Score:

    Oh shit Liars are at the top of his list 5 months into the year! This must mean something! Damn!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 3:43 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! !!11

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 at 2:20 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Isn't Jesse the stupid hipster guy?

    Posted by some1 on 2004-05-07 21:26:34
    My Score:

    hahahaHAHAHAhahHAhahHAHAHhaHA

    best comment ever

    I haven't heard this band, but I think I like them on principle.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 at 4:45 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    "it's two paragraphs in a large empty space, it's unimaginative, it's cliché, it's the same damn bullshit every damn review, it's the same damn 4-5 words reorganized, it's the boring review premise, it's the fact that the reviewer considers himself clever, it's the fact that he should take a writing class before anything gets reviewed"

    hahahahahahahahaha sweet!

    -c22

    Posted by MarkieStabone on 2004-05-07 14:53:29
    My Score:

    It's raw, it's sloppy, it's gritty, it's two paragraphs in a large empty space, it's unimaginative, it's cliché, it's the same damn bullshit every damn review, it's the same damn 4-5 words reorganized, it's the boring review premise, it's the fact that the reviewer considers himself clever, it's the fact that he should take a writing class before anything gets reviewed.

    I guess the best thing you can say about this reviewer is that anyone could have made it, but you didn't, and they did. Plus, it's short.

    Posted by inagreendase on 2004-05-07 14:50:53
    My Score:

    "it's the fact that they've broken up before their release gets reviewed"

    Well, honestly...whose fault is that?

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:42 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    what is this? why?!? wtf?

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 at 2:33 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    This review is awful.

    -c22