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Saves The Day: Ups & Downs: Early Recordings And B-SidesUps & Downs: Early Recordings And B-Sides (2004)
Vagrant Records

Reviewer Rating: 3.5
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Contributed by: colincolin
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Ah, good old Saves The Day. Although they've dropped off my radar since the highly disappointing In Reverie, I still put a copy of Through Being Cool in my player from time to time to reminisce about the good old days. The band that is most known for being 'heavily influenced' by Lifetime has gon.


Ah, good old Saves The Day. Although they've dropped off my radar since the highly disappointing In Reverie, I still put a copy of Through Being Cool in my player from time to time to reminisce about the good old days.

The band that is most known for being 'heavily influenced' by Lifetime has gone through many changes, and I was expecting this disc to chronologically play them, perhaps starting with a raw, quicker Saves The Day and ending up with the lighter, way-too-high-pitched band that is around today. And boy was I wrong about that.

The album introduces with the title track, as it were, "Ups and Downs." An easily found b-side from the Stay What You Are-era, the introduction guitar effect is quite addictive and I see no reason as to why this song wasn't on SWYA.

The next two tracks on the album are obvious standouts, even though they are simply tracks from Vagrant's Another Year On The Streets series. The pop punk singalongs "Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven" and "A Drag In D Flat" make you remember the days that it seemed Saves The Day could do no wrong. Quick and searing guitars, properly pitched and emotional vocals, and lyrics like "I'd love to be scattered to hell with you. To hell with you. To hell with you." are solid examples of Through Being Cool-era STD.

What happens next is surprising. I never really looked at the advance press sheets for this album, so when I heard the introduction of I'm Sorry I'm Leaving echoing through my speakers, I was a bit confused. Fast forwarding at first, I couldn't believe my ears; Vagrant had put the entire acoustic EP on this disc. Huh? An album that fans of the band will already have, or at least have heard, needs not to be on this. Subtracting the five songs of the EP and you still have a pretty strong 14 song album. Not to mention the sudden acoustic tracks interfere greatly with the listening ability of the album; going from power pop punk anthems that leave you begging for more and ending up with this is somewhat disappointing. Don't get me wrong; I do enjoy the EP, but it was a blaring mistake to even include it on this album, much less put it as songs 4-8.

Checking out the tracks of the rest of the disc, all the titles were new to me, so I just pushed play and hoped for the best. I was not disappointed. "The Art of Misplacing Firearms" starts off with a catchy guitar hook, and then jumps into quick beats and the great old sound I had been hoping for. Although lacking the staple ending of fist pumping that older Saves The Day was known for, it's a strong track.

From this point on, the album stays in the same formula. Really strong, older songs that were obviously done by a young band still needing some time to grow. "1:19" and "Dave Feels Right" have some great endings, which seperate them from the rest of the rather formulaic recording. This isn't to say the Saves The Day formula is a bad one; I grew up with it and so I have an appreciation for it. However, it's obvious that these tracks were left on the demo tapes for a reason; they just aren't strong enough to make it onto a 'great' album like Can't Slow Down or Through Being Cool.

"I Think I'll Quit" is an outstanding track that is followed by a rather odd, awkward rock song "Cheer" that I found pretty skippable. "Clash City Rockers" sounds like, well, Saves The Day covering the Clash. Good cover, but I don't think I would have put it at this point in the album. Again, another sign of bad mixing.

A live, full-band recording of "Jesse And My Whetstone" closes out the album. I haven't ever seen Saves The Day perform this song live, so it was interesting to hear. My biggest complaint is that it's not a song to close an album with; the tempo doesn't change, the vocals are too high and the song becomes weak after a few listens.

Overall this disc is a good listen for a fan of Saves The Day, especially if you're like me and miss the glory days from the band's stint on Equal Vision. The biggest downfall is the mix; putting the three best (and easiest to find) songs before an already-released and not-so-rare acoustic EP is a dumb decision. The tracks stuffed in the middle of the album are worth a listen, but it's nothing you need to go out and buy immediately. It seems like Vagrant is simply cashing in on a band that has proven to be nothing but disappointing to signing to said label.

 

 
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tylerdurden8136 (March 31, 2006)

go kill yourself, colin.

Anonymous (February 16, 2005)

Random info: The song Ups & Downs wasn't included on Stay What You Are because it apparently (according to the liner notes on this album) wasn't ready in time. Otherwise (Chris says) it would have been

nuthinBUTdisastor (January 11, 2005)

if u dont really like this band than this wont b the cd for u, becasue it is a more raw side of the saves the day that most people know, i have listened to saves the day for a long time now, songs like ups and down, josie, through being cool, and my favorite song fire fly from "stay wat u are" . RE aome of there best songs , SO B4 U START TALKING SHIT NOW WAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT, and listen to the fuckin music.

Anonymous (September 14, 2004)

So I picked this up at the record store out of sheer desperation. STD have never been a favorite with me, but I like listening to demo versions of songs, covers, rough mixes, etc.

What did I have to loose? Besides re-affirming that I hated STD.

I've listened to this CD 3 times since yesterday, and my fav. band is Black Flag. Holy shit, I didn't expect this. OK punk rock, excellent as sheer pop songs.

I'll drink to this.

Anonymous (August 31, 2004)

This band is and always has been for pussies!

Anonymous (August 29, 2004)

What you all don't know is that Chris is taleted at music and he gave me a private acoustic show, while I sucked his uncircumsized cock. I bet you'd love to taste my lips after that version of "Rocks Juice Tonic."

boba_fett (August 28, 2004)

doesnt change the fact you obviously suck at playing guitar.

Anonymous (August 28, 2004)

Im not 16. Actually 20 so you can ALL blow me. Ok?

Anonymous (August 28, 2004)

Can't Slow Down is one of the best albums ever made. STD went down hill after that because all chris cares about is blowing guys, instead of the music.

Anonymous (August 28, 2004)

Give him SOME credit guys.

Maybe he's 16.

Anonymous (August 28, 2004)

"This band is one of the few punk bands left that are actually amazing technical musicians"

What?! Their bassist may be good, but thats it!

boba_fett (August 27, 2004)

maybe thats because youre only 15 now.

Anonymous (August 27, 2004)

This band is one of the few punk bands left that are actually amazing technical musicians. These songs are pretty difficult to play. I have been playing the guitar since i was 14 and i cant even play their most simple of songs.

Awesome band, Awesome message. WE all need more punk rock like this.

Anonymous (August 27, 2004)

"god colin, you're a fucking doosh"

at least learn how to spell your insults....douche.

Anonymous (August 27, 2004)

Eh, Saves The Day. Strictly a "middle-of-the-spectrum" affair. Now Break The Silence. They practically invented noise-core, not to mention putting Hopeless on the map!

-healthymon

Anonymous (August 27, 2004)

god colin, you're a fucking doosh.

colin (August 27, 2004)

"wow, you know rich egan, go on and pretend like your fat life matters you fucking straight edge faggot. you wouldn't believe the people that talk shit about you."

wow, you anonymously slander people on the internet. people who put in hard work and dedication for very little return to provide people like you with information and entertainment.

i bet you're the only person in the world that has never had anyone talk shit about them. seriously, i bet you're perfect. you're my new hero, in fact. i mean, the world needs more homophobes who get jealous of people that have talked with rich egan.

Anonymous (August 27, 2004)

Rich @ Vagrant just let me know a couple things, in regards to some issues brought up here:

1. The reason the Modern English cover is not on this CD is because the band dislikes the version they recorded.
2. While the acoustic EP is still technically for sale through a number of outlets, it is out of print, meaning that after this current run of the EPs is sold out, no more will ever be made.

Hope that helps clear up some stuff.

-Scott

wow, you know rich egan, go on and pretend like your fat life matters you fucking straight edge faggot. you wouldn't believe the people that talk shit about you.

Icapped2pac (August 26, 2004)

"i'm in agreement for the most part. my musical tastes are quite different than they were when i first encountered saves the day (opening with a new found glory and alkaline trio for face to face, good show)... but i still love those songs"

100% agreed dude. I saw that show in Milwaukee, and it was fuckin awesome. It seemed to me that barely anybody knew who NFG were at that time though. Anyways, I'll check this out, and it'll probably be a 6. And, for the record

TBC(8/10)>CSD(7/10)=SWYA(7/10)>IR(1/10)

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

I don't like Nightengale too much, but its not like I hate it. Just not too big on it compared to most of their songs. and yes, alwasy ten feet tall rules the school.

When I was 18 I was definately alot more narrow minded about music, so I agree w/ that guy. I wouldn't stereotype all 18 year olds, but I definately broadened my horizons about 100 times greater throughout college (and now after). For example, my roomate/goodfriend freshman year in college when he was 18, about 80% of what he listened to was the entire fat wreck catalog and a few other bands. Now he's 23 and loves mars volta, fugazi, grandaddy, nada surf, jet, white stripes, radiohead and thursday. total 180 turn in 5 years. its just the facts, dont think the guys' being a dick for stereotyping. even he admitted he wsa narrow minded.

That said, most still think in reverie sucks. I thought it did after a few listens, but after a month or so grew to like it. not love it, but like it. tomorrow too late, as i said before, is one of their top 6 or 7 songs imo.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

"When you can't get someone to agree with you, imply that they're not qualified to make their own decisions. Pretty arrogant, aren't you?"

i don't think that i am being arrogant. when i was 18 i hated everything that didn't follow the classic lookout mold. if it didn't sound like the queers or mtx then i was less likely to like it. now that i am older and have experienced more music i think i do have more of an open mind when a band tries something new.
i am not saying that everyone is like i was when i was 18, i'm just saying that it seems that on this site a lot of people dog a band for doing something new.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

" It definately is better than nightengale, cars and calories and about 3/4 of In Reverie"

You don't like Nightingale? That's one of my favorite STD songs... and I thought the best one off SWYA. It has beautiful lyrics, and a great tune.

Always Ten Feet Tall is still my favorite though.

Anchors (August 26, 2004)

No, you're a fucking idiot.

In Reverie does suck. Through Being Cool was a lot different than Can't Slow Down, but people came around pretty quickly. Stay What You Are is the exact same situation. But close to a year later, most people still say In Reverie sucks.

Coincedince? Not a chance.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

The thing that amazes me the most about this band is how different each of their album sounds. Everyone can keep arguing about what their best record is, but in the end, everyone has a favorite album for their own personal reasons.

The score is for Jukebox Breakdown, At Your Funeral & This Is not an Exit.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

jesse is my fav. acoustic track, but 3 miles down is damn good.

can't slow down is the fastest and most straight forward, but also the most redundant (how can you say half those songs don't sound nearly identicle) and bland. TBC was much more realized, developed and had some variety. Can't slow down is still amazing for how young they were though.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

Can't Slow Down is by far and away StD's best album. It's fast, it's honest, it filled the post-Lifetime void, and they weren't all decked out in hemp necklaces when they recorded it.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

it is my opinion that the acoustic track on CSD is STDs best acoustic effort.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

Three Miles Down is an awesome song, but Hold or I'm Sorry I'm Leaving or Take Our Cars Now blow it away.

Can't Slow Down is definately not the best Saves The Day album. It's the fastest and the most honest, but altogether, I would say Through Being Cool is much better

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

"when you aren't all 18, you will enjoy this album a lot more."

When you can't get someone to agree with you, imply that they're not qualified to make their own decisions. Pretty arrogant, aren't you?

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

hey wyzo -
what the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

I don't think it's a shitty album. I think the kids who listen to it are shitty.

Anonymous (August 26, 2004)

"my only hope is that STD doesn't get spooked by all the haters and start to crank out cookie cutter albums."

like the next album, which is college friendly rock? so unpredictable, mavericks, trailblazers.

the only way i misunderstood in reverie is the same way i sometimes misunderstand suck.

before you complain about all the cliches of punk rock, maybe you shouldnt be such a cliche blaming a shitty album on all the cliches of punk rock.

I'm not 18, I like a wide breath of music, music not altogether different than what in reverie was aiming for, but it was a bad bad album.

wyzo

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

"In Revierie is misunderstood, but I'm sure it's better than any attempt at music you crictics can play. I hate how you can take someones art and pick it apart or use all these lame punk/emo terms and standards."

bravo! i couldn't agree more, in revierie is a great album. it is too bad that when a bad breaks away from the mold everyone hates them. give it a couple of years and when you aren't all 18, you will enjoy this album a lot more. my only hope is that STD doesn't get spooked by all the haters and start to crank out cookie cutter albums.

boba_fett (August 25, 2004)

i seriously dont get it... does everybody prefer through being cool to cant slow down? what the fuck.

csd is the best thing that saves the day ever released, and none of the acoustic tracks on im sorry im leaving can even compare with three miles down.

this score is for people who prefer tbc to csd.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I had every song on this cd already, except the Descendents cover "Cheer" (which is awkward for STD, but fans of either band should enjoy!!) and the live acoustic track was a highlight. These days the musicianship of STD has surely matured, hopefully along with thier fanbase. My fav CD of 2000 was Through Being Cool. Now that I am 29yo, I am glad this band didn't stay what they were!! This band continues to challenge what I like musically. In Revierie is misunderstood, but I'm sure it's better than any attempt at music you crictics can play. I hate how you can take someones art and pick it apart or use all these lame punk/emo terms and standards. The review I give a 4. The other comments get a 2. My comments get a 5. Saves The Day gets a 10. forever.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

Still can't believe you referred to "Cheer" as an awkward rock song. The Descendents are a classic...pick up an album, I dare you.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

Yea, the vocals on in reverie suck. They double tracked nearly every one, giving them that eerie two connley's at once sound throughout the whole album. Aside from that, and the 4 songs on it i dislike (scroll down a few for my previous post) its still good. not great, but good. pretty interesting change and experimental for them.

As for the guy saying all of can't slow down stays the same, i agree, thats my #1 complaint w/ that album. but, being that it was written by an 18 year old, its pretty amazing. Jodie, alwasy 10 ft. tall, the choke and blindfolded are all great songs. the other 10 are pretty indistinguishable. I actually think In Reverie is better.

TBC(9/10)>SWYA(8/10)>In Reverie(7/10)>can't slow down(6/10).

ThreeChordsAndTheTruth (August 25, 2004)

I'm not so into Can't Slow Down as nearly every song sounds the same, it's hard to distinguish them..

colin (August 25, 2004)

"Just a note: In Reverie is a very good and solid album. Just because it isn't Through Being Cool, doesn't make it shit."

i'm all for band growth, all for experimentation and not repeating the same record over and over. i mean, blink-182 did this and got famous, but they're so shitty now it hurts. saves the day, well... in reveire is a sold musical album, but i can't stand the vocals on it. chris' lyrics have always had an aggressive aspect to them, and it's hard to take such words seriously in the high pitched, laid back voice he has on "in reveire."

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I'm Sorry I'm Leaving is out of print, so it was quite appropriate to include it here.

Unfortunately, none of the In Reverie B-Sides made it on there, which are the best songs from that album.

Just a note: In Reverie is a very good and solid album. Just because it isn't Through Being Cool, doesn't make it shit.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I've seen Saves The Day three times, and they've always played Jessie and my Whetstone. Every time.

aubin (August 25, 2004)

I think I'll pick this one up; frankly, I never liked the Lifetime-lite of Through Being Cool or the poorly executed Elvis Costello tribute called In Reverie. The band and Chris' vocals specifically were at their best in the Vagrant era of their career.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I think people are starting to come around to In Reverie. I for one thought it wasnt as good as SWYA or TBC but I still thought it was good for the style change and experimentation. I just missed the energy and passion of their last couple albums. That said, I think "Tomorrow Too Late" is one of their top 10 best songs, closer to top 5. "she" is also pretty freakin awesome (and driving in the dark, and in reverie). But some songs just didn't do it for me. "anywhere w/ you" sounded like some lame weezer/ben kweller song. "morning in the moonlight" and "where are you" sounded like SWYA outtakes. "monkey" is just too fruity and boring for me. Those are my only complaints w/ the album. SO there, not everyone mindlessly bashes In Reverie. I just had more complaints w/ it than TBC or SWYA (as in I disliked 4 songs on it, as opposed to 1 on SWYA (cars and calories) and 2 on TBC (track 8 and 10)). And it lacked the super catchy, powerful, memorable anthms like 'at yoru funeral' and the first 6 songs on TBC (the best section of any of their albums imo, god those 6 songs are soooo classic).

jesse and my whetstone rules.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I really don't get why people hate new STD. I love In Reverie. Why would they keep making the same record over and over, as an artist you have to make different styles of music. You can't drag the same old sound for like five cds. Anyway I love all the records they did, In Reverie being one of my favorites.

-ejaculine

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

" But where the hell are ¨Blossom,¨ ¨Don´t Go Outside,¨ and ¨Coconut,¨ the In Reverie B-Sides?"

don't forget...In Reverie was released on Dreamworks, not Vagrant. They arent on Vagrant anymore dude.

Jesse (August 25, 2004)

Dude, I was totally at that show in Minneapolis. I was the only one there for Saves the Day. Everyone else just wanted to see NFG, even though they were the shitty openers. I never liked them.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

the 'odd awkward rock song' is a decendents cover . read the liner notes next time dude.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

"agrant had put the entire acoustic EP on this disc. Huh? An album that fans of the band will already have, or at least have heard, needs not to be on this."

I disagree. I've been listening to them for almost 4 years and have never bought the acoustic ep, i borrowed it from a friend for 6 months at one point and had some of it downloaded on my computer but never wanted to part w/ the cash. it was nice to finally get it, plus more stuff, for 11 dollars.

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

" An easily found b-side from the Stay What You Are-era, the introduction guitar effect is quite addictive and I see no reason as to why this song wasn't on SWYA. "

I wondered that too when i first heard it a few years ago. In the liner notes in this cd, Connely explains that they ran out of time to finish it in the studio (much like Man Overboard not making Blink's Enema of the state due to running out of time...remember that song?) but he really likes it. It definately is better than nightengale, cars and calories and about 3/4 of In Reverie

ThreeChordsAndTheTruth (August 25, 2004)

I'll be picking this record up. I love those early songs, and I'm interested in the SWYA reject track(s).

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

mr. luke,
shame on you for lying. you didn't blow that high and you know it. you would be suffering from alcohol poisoning and would be wildly incoherent. you message would have looked more like this. *ahem*

alll yu fucks litsen up. ijus t got a dui.fuck them plice FUCK THEM!!

that is if you could type at all. trust me i've been there.

xoxo,
willups brightslymoore

Anonymous (August 25, 2004)

I suspect that the In Reverie b-sides aren't on here, because Dreamworks, or whomever, holds the rights to them, and this is a Vagrant production. Too bad, because they are quite good, much like the In Reverie album, which is my second favorite STD album behind Stay What You Are.

colin (August 25, 2004)

i'm drunk as shit but i'd never go out driving.

dui = sucks all around.

take a cab.

MrLuke (August 25, 2004)

I just got a DUI. Yay!!! I bet I blew higher than Billie Joe. I blew a fucking .27. No joke. I'm fucked. I just might buy this album though.
-MrLuke

colin (August 25, 2004)

jesse-

i'm in agreement for the most part. my musical tastes are quite different than they were when i first encountered saves the day (opening with a new found glory and alkaline trio for face to face, good show)... but i still love those songs. howevre, i mainly put on "through being cool" for rocks tonic juice magic and my sweet fracture. something about those songs... just amazing.

and scott... tell rich at vagrant that putting the acoustic ep on the album wouldn't have been such an error if they didn't royally fuck up mixing it. seriously, the placement of it is just god fucking awful.

Jesse (August 25, 2004)

"Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven" and "A Drag In D Flat"

I loved both of those songs when I liked this band. They were my favorite.

But my musical tastes have matured. And I'm really sick of these guys.

TrailerParkJesus (August 25, 2004)

I'd definetely like to hear this soon.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

7 seems like a fitting score for this album.
I'd just like to mention that I don't understand the ridiculous amount of hatred put on In Reverie. I must assume that it is due to some disappointment that it doesn't sound like old STD. Independent of old STD cds, it sounds like a very good dreamy record. And don't get me wrong, I really like the band's old stuff, but I still feel that In Reverie was one of the top 10-15 cds I bought last year. I understand people not liking cds, but generally, they hate it, don't listen to it, then stop talking about it. In Reverie incessantly gets bashed by people who claim to be STD fans. Let it go guys.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

Credit to the people at Vagrant then for assembling a pretty complete package - even though I don't like the e.p. and completionists will get pissed about the missing cover. Unfortunately, Saves the Day has gotten less and less interesting over the past few years and completionists aside, I have a hard time imagine anyone rushing out to buy this as the old stuff will alienate the new fans and most of the old fans stopped being fans after Through Being Cool.

maverick (August 24, 2004)

Rich @ Vagrant just let me know a couple things, in regards to some issues brought up here:

1. The reason the Modern English cover is not on this CD is because the band dislikes the version they recorded.
2. While the acoustic EP is still technically for sale through a number of outlets, it is out of print, meaning that after this current run of the EPs is sold out, no more will ever be made.

Hope that helps clear up some stuff.

-Scott

SethCohen (August 24, 2004)

Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off to Heaven is one of my favorite songs ever. I'm not too wild on that accoustic EP either.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

I can't wait to hear this album.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

Oh, and the cd itself is really good. The older songs remind me of a more raw sounding Can't Slow Down, and the last track, the electric "Jessie and My Whitestone" is just great. I'm with Scott though, why isn't the Modern English cover included on this cd? Saves The Day and/or Vagrant have got some 'splainin to do.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

The person who said that the acoustic ep is out of print is right, at least according to Chris Conley. At a show last month he told the crowd that the acoustic ep is out of print, but not to worry because the songs would be available on the b-sides album that would be coming out.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

the art of misplacing firearms is a good song, I remember first hearing it on the Hardcore 1999:XXX compilation, back when STD were touring with Bane and Skycamefalling. Good ol days

mykindofmurder (August 24, 2004)

the in reverie b-sides are actually better than most of in reverie itself. the acoutic ep idea was fuckin stupid. but im sure there are plenty of fans that have yet to hear great songs like take our cars now!

boba_fett (August 24, 2004)

meh. this aint worth my money, no matter how many old sounding songs there are on it.

and the reason the in reverie b-sides arent on it is because they probably suck. just like in reverie itself.

colin (August 24, 2004)

sorry, never followed teh descendents much. love everything sucks, new album's okay, but i never made an effort to get the complete discography. my mistake on that. still doesn't change the fact i dislike the std version of it.

i wasn't aware that the acoustic ep was out of print, i just know that every saves the day fan i know has it... so i thought that was a stupid idea.

Anonymous (August 24, 2004)

The acoustic ep is out of print now, and that is why they are included on this album. And ¨Cheer¨ is a Descendents song. Boo urns to you for not knowing that. ¨Sell My Old Clothes¨ and ¨A Drag in D Flat¨ are amazing. And Chris´ liner notes are an interesting read. But where the hell are ¨Blossom,¨ ¨Don´t Go Outside,¨ and ¨Coconut,¨ the In Reverie B-Sides?

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