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Beastie Boys / Talib Kweli

Beastie Boys / Talib Kweli: live in Detroitlive in Detroit (2004)
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Reviewer Rating: 5


Contributed by: miloMilo
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When I heard the Beastie Boys were going on tour I figured it would probably be one of the last chances to see them. They are pushing 40 and seeing as how it took them six years to put out To The 5 Boroughs, who knows what they will do in the future. So I made a five hour drive to see them in beau.


When I heard the Beastie Boys were going on tour I figured it would probably be one of the last chances to see them. They are pushing 40 and seeing as how it took them six years to put out To The 5 Boroughs, who knows what they will do in the future. So I made a five hour drive to see them in beautiful Detroit Rock City. And boy oh boy it was worth it. Let's take it from the top.

Detroit seems like an alright city. They were filming a movie about two blocks over from Cobo where the show was so I got to see some big shootout scene and explosions galore. I showed up to Cobo Hall around 7:15 after drinking extensively. The crowd was pretty mixed, with lots of older people in their 30's, lots of kids my age in their early 20's, and pretty much everything in between. When we first got there the place was about half full. Promptly at 7:30 the show got under way with Bob Moore and the Amazing Mongrels. What the fuck is that you ask? Well, it's a guy named Bob Moore (I assume) who has a ton of dogs and they just jump around and do tricks to circus music onstage. It was entertaining and a good opening act. The dogs jumped through hoops, off of ledges, and did flips and other goofy shit.

The music started with Talib Kweli who I had never heard before. It was just him and his DJ guy or whatever the shit they are called. He was enthusiastic and hyped up the Beasties but overall I wasn't that impressed. All his songs sounded pretty much the same and his whole 35-minute set kind of just blended together into one long rap song with him yelling real loud. Some people seemed to dig him and sing along but pretty much everyone was just waiting for the main attraction.

The place filled up and Mix Master Mike got all the shit set up and the Beastie Boys came on stage around 9:15 and proceeded to put on a damn good show. The setlist was...

MMM Intro
Egg Man
Root Down
Sure Shot
(played a clip of Will Ferrel doing George W. Bush which is also on the Rock Against Bush 2 DVD)
Triple Trouble
Time To Get Ill
Pass Tha Mic
Super Disco Breakin
Posse In Effect
Shake Your Rump
MMM Interlude
(Now they came back and played instruments)
Sabrosa
Lighten Up
Something's Gotta Give
(Now back to just rappin)
Open Letter to NYC
Right RIght Now Now
Paul Revere
Body Movin'
3 MC's and 1 DJ
Brass Monkey
Ch-Check It Out
So Whatcha Want


ENCORE
Intergalactic
(Back to Instruments)
Gratitude
Sabotage

All in all it was a killer show. They played for an hour and 45 minutes and played shit from all their different albums. It was a set that was big on hits but they threw in a few fan faves here and there. When they opened with "Egg Man" I just about shit my pants cause that song is so great. People were singing along to every song. Hell there was even a Kid Rock sighting. Awesome! (FYI-thats sarcasm).

It was awesome to see them play the instruments. They dressed up real nice in blue tuxes while playing them and had the stage set up somewhat like a high school dance. It was nice to slow things down in the middle. They didn't talk a whole lot except to say a few things about how disapointing the election was and some other goofy banter. All the songs sounded phenomenal and the crowd went nuts. When they played "Sabotage" as the last song the floor absolutely exploded and people were jumping up and down like crazy. MCA also constantly was going into the crowd and they played the whole song of "Intergalactic" while walking around the arena. "Brass Monkey" and "Paul Revere" were two old school treats that the crowd fucking loved. I didn't hear them fuck up any rhymes and they just put on a great show overall. I really cant stress how impressed I was. So if you get the chance, go check the Beastie Boys out on this tour. It's well worth it.

 

 
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Anonymous (November 15, 2004)

that's respiration but still a great song

common's verse is almost untouchable

Anonymous (November 15, 2004)

So much on my mind that I can't recline
Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine
Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine
Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline
Heard the bass ride out like an ancient mating call
I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathin
Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening
Sigh before we die like the last train leaving
The beast crept through concrete jungles
communicatin with one another
And ghetto birds where waters fall
from the hydrants to the gutters
The beast walk the beats, but the beats we be makin
You on the wrong side of the track, lookin visibly shaken
Taken them plungers, plungin to death that's painted by the numbers
with crime unapplied pressure, cats is playin God
but havin children by a lesser baby mother but fuck it
we played against each other like puppets, swearin you got pull
when the only pull you got is the wool over your eyes
Gettin knowledge in jail like a blessing in disguise
Look in the skies for God, what you see besides the smog
is broken dreams flying away on the wings of the obscene
Thoughts that people put in the air
Places where you could get murdered over a glare
But everything is fair
It's a paradox we call reality
So keepin it real will make you casualty of abnormal normality
Killers Born Naturally like, Mickey and Mallory
Not knowing the ways'll get you capped like an NBA salary
Some cats be emceeing to illustrate what we be seeing
Hard to be a spiritual being when shit is shakin what you believe in
For trees to grow in Brooklyn, seeds need to be planted
I'm asking if y'all feel me AND THE CROWD LEFT ME STRANDED
My blood pressure boiled and rose, cause New York niggaz
actin spoiled at shows, to the winners the spoils go
I take the L, transfer to the 2, head to the gates
New York life type trife the Roman Empire state

TJmoney (November 14, 2004)

livin my life expressin my liberty it gotta be done properly, my name is in the middle of eKWELIty

Anonymous (November 14, 2004)

Consider me the entitity within the industry without a history of spitting the epitome of stupidity

TJmoney (November 12, 2004)

you think you the shit somebody in the wings will force you to quit it could be your crew or clique or some random kid you smoked buddha with...

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

why oh oh, i said one two three, its kinda dangerous to be an mc e e e

-paul (lets keep the blackstar shit coming, somebody better tackle the verse soon)

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

"oh and rapping isn't 'talking in rhyme over beats'

talib kweli often raps in different keys to match the music, many rap artists sing in addition to rap in their songs (black thought sings in the roots, jurassic 5 sing). "

Don't forget Mos Def. He actually has a pretty good singing voice.

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

This guy was interested in dogs "jumping through hoops and other goofy shit". He wrote more about that than Kweli. That just about sums it up doesn't it?

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

rock it on to the tip top

Anonymous (November 12, 2004)

best alliance in hip-hop

ThatotherGuy (November 12, 2004)

Can you say Boston Beatdown ? Now that's violence.

Anonymous (November 11, 2004)

too much violence in hip-hop.

TJmoney (November 11, 2004)

they shot 2pac and biggie

CrankWillDestroy (November 11, 2004)

It's kinda dangerous to be an MC..

Anonymous (November 11, 2004)

oh and rapping isn't 'talking in rhyme over beats'

talib kweli often raps in different keys to match the music, many rap artists sing in addition to rap in their songs (black thought sings in the roots, jurassic 5 sing).

mainstream rap sucks. you know nothing of the underground. stop speaking on nothing. you sound as ignorant as a numetal jock shittalking fugazi.

Anonymous (November 11, 2004)

oh yea, and BSD IS talking out of his ass about the underground hip hop scene being dead. he said this to make it sound like he DOES know about hip hop so that his comments dont sound as ignorant

he is full of shit.

the underground hip hop scene is probably stronger now than its ever been and the quality of music coming out of it is phenomenal.

paul

Anonymous (November 11, 2004)

"It's not because he's black, it's because he sucks.

Hip hop in general sucks. Intelligent lyricisms can't save the music. "

wow BSD you are an idiot on this one. First of all, a lot of good hip hop is not just studio beats, including talib kweli. For example, the Roots play their own instruments, and Questlove is fucking rediculous at drums, better than 95% of punk drummers as a matter of fact.

and 'train of thought' or whatever lyrics? you're dumb. Kweli songs have a definate direction and message. Go to some fucking lyrics website and read through his lyrics. He is witty, has an expansive vocabulary, has great music and beats to his shit etc.

yoiu don't have to like hip hop, but at least recoginize that it is
A. an art and music form
B. takes tremendous talent to be skilled at it
C. is intelligent and meaningful

sure hte mainstream hip hop sucks, but that woudl be like judgeing punk on good charlotte and simple plan.

listen to jurassic 5, the roots, talib kweli, common, mos def, de la soul or older black eyed peas.

I also find Talib's lyrics to have more literary value than just about anything punk/indy.

again, you don't have to like hip hop, but to say 'it takes little to no talent' and 'ins't music' just makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

Paul

Jesse (November 11, 2004)

Dude, Mos Def plays the bass and drums on every beat he makes (except when his band Black Jack Johnson Project is playing behind him (drummer from Living Color, guitarist from Bad Brains, keyboardist from Parliament/Funkadelic). You are mixing mainstream rap with hip-hop, both very different. You say underground hip-hop is dead. You couldn't be more wrong. Just because you are unaware of it's existence doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The underground hip-hop scene is huge and going strong. Just because you are a rapper, it doesn't mean you don't make your own beats.

Anonymous (November 11, 2004)

BSD

Chuck D's rhymes could match anything Jello ever wrote, in cleverness and in message

You think making a beat is easy? making a shitty beat is easy. making a super awesomely rad beat is pretty fucking difficult (like that other guy said...kind of like punk)

if you think good charlotte are more talented than eminem because they play their instruments you are insane (p.s. i despise eminem and good charlotte's music)

but you seem pretty closeminded about music most of the time, even though i do like the music you listen to

- the other scott

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

Jesse-

Rap will never read like literature or poetry. Fuck, Mos Def is not Chaucer.

I guess I respect the underground hip-hop guys, but it trully is a dead and (mosty) talentless genre (hmmm... sounds like punk).

Greg Ginn wrote EVERYTHING in Black Flag. Love it or hate it, please don't claim you could do it. It takes more talent to write guitar and lyrics for a band than it does to have some artificial beat layed down so you can talk over it in ryhme.

Plus, what rapper has written anything as good as Crass or DK's lyrics?

-BSD

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

Hahah, BSD says rapping takes little to no talent. You're a fucking fool.

TJmoney (November 10, 2004)

yeah...you may think rhyming over some beat is easy and it might be but the hard part not sounding like shit...thats the talent in it

dont base your view on rap/hip-hop on the nellys, chingys and j-kwons

I think rap is alot like punk because...sure theres groups in the mainstream (and suck) but they either sold out or a ploy to sell records...the real good shit is underground

and to everyone: nobody says you have to like one specific genre of music...just cuz it isnt "punk" doesnt mean it isnt good

Black Star - Respiration

Jesse (November 10, 2004)

Dude, a good flow reads like literature. Hardcore with "witty' lyrics I can do in ten minutes, but I mean, to get a solid entire song? That's hard work and a lot of talent involved. Example, the lyrics to Mos Def's "Hip-Hop":

http://www.mosdefinitely.com/lyrics/blackonbothside s/02hiphop.txt

Those lyrics are way more complicated than anything Black Flag ever did.

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

Yeah, but it takes more effort to make a simple hardcore riff and witty lyrics than "train of thought" ryhmes over some studio beat.

-BSD

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

"Hahaha. I always have to laugh at the "is it because he's black?" argument. No. It's because rapping alone takes little to no talent. The Beastie Boys are a fun band. Also, they are musicians. Most hip hop guys aren't.

It's not because he's black, it's because he sucks.

Hip hop in general sucks. Intelligent lyricisms can't save the music.

-BSD"

wow BSD, usually I agree with your little rants, but right now you seem like an ignorant little bitch

rapping, especially good rapping like that of talib and his counterpart mos def, takes a tremendous amount of talent

you seem to like old 70s early 80s punk which is rad because i like that shit too, but those bands weren't too talented

- the other scott

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

Hahaha. I always have to laugh at the "is it because he's black?" argument. No. It's because rapping alone takes little to no talent. The Beastie Boys are a fun band. Also, they are musicians. Most hip hop guys aren't.

It's not because he's black, it's because he sucks.

Hip hop in general sucks. Intelligent lyricisms can't save the music.

-BSD

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

fine he wasn't racist but his 'dj guy or whatever the shit they are called' sounds pretty condecending.

the blink/bad religeon comparison wasn't dumb. the reviewer is ignorant to good hip hop. talib kweli is probably in the top 5 most respected hip hop artists of the present day and arguably the best, next to maybe the roots , who are also amazing. if someone came on here reviewing the blink/bad religeon show and blew off BR like this guy blew off Talib, people would jump all over him as being an idiot who shouldnt be reviewing punk shows. see my point?

paul

ThatotherGuy (November 10, 2004)

To the guy who said Houston needs a show like this, we almost got it. I have some friends working for Clear Channel and they told me this got into the final stages of being booked and fell through. Besides, they played at Voodoo Fest in Lousiana and the played a date in Dallas, both are only about 4 hours away.

THAT GUY

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

yeah i agree. to call the reviewer racist is bullshit. he said nothing remotely racist. he didnt likeTalib Kweli. big fucking deal. get over it. plus the bad religion/blink 182 comparison was stupid. the beasties have been around a lot longer than Talib Kweli.

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

how was that review racist? i dont see the connection. some people dont dig hip hop but like the beasties. give them a break. ass.

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

"just say it...i'm white, i don't know shit about hip hop other than the beastie boys and that black people do it, and i'm damn proud!!!"

well said.

Paul (again). this latently racist review sucks. learn that peoploe other than the beasties do hip hop and do it as well if not better. go buy a jurassic 5, common, roots, talib kweli and mos def album before you ever review a hip hop show again.

this would be like a kid reviewing the blink 182 show that bad religeion opening and saying "some band called bad religon or whatever the shit they were opened. pretty unimpressive. then Blink 182 came on and it ruled!"

you sound dumb.

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

you, reviewer, are a fucking idiot for not knowing any of talib kweli's material and syaing you were unimpressed. was it because he is black?

talib kweli is a lyrical genious. His work w/ hi tek on the 'reflection eternal' album is amazing and his Quality solo effort album is also sick.

you may also have heard of a guy named mos-def and his work w/ kweli on Blackstar....? talib and mos def are pretty much considered the lennon and mcartney of hip hop.

most you you are too white and dumb to get over this not being the punkx! to care anyway. cuz 'this shit isn't even music right?' kill yourselves.

not knowing kweli and his impact on hip hop is like saying yoiu listen to punk rock but don't know about suffer, london calling or punk in drublic.

don't review hip hop if your knowedge doesnt go beyond the beastie boys.

-paul

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

MCA turned 40 a few months ago...so he at least isn't pushing 40 anymore.

the beatie boys rule and respect and credit is due. their new album is sick, and their entire back catalog is nearly essential (anyone who doesnt put pauls boutique in the top 100 albums of the past 20 years is an idiot, liscensed to ill was raw and revolutionary, check your head a classic, hello nasty so much variety and the more stripped down, tribal feel of ill communicatoin.)

Anonymous (November 10, 2004)

we all know the beasties can still rock the house party at the drop of a hat and beat a biter down with an aluminum bat. the new album was good and the beasties are great.

Jesse (November 10, 2004)

Hey, at least the new Talib Kweli isn't as bad as the new Mos Def...sigh...

lunchbox (November 10, 2004)

Kweli and the Beastie Boys?

Goddamn. That's the kind of show Houston needs.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

HEY! THIS ISNT PUNK!

OI OI OI OI OI OI

-Lars Fredriksen (I have Skunx tattooed on my forehead)

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

1 2 3, mos def and talib kweli...

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

This score is for my knowledge about rap.

-Chinatown

TJmoney (November 9, 2004)

that was me

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

listen to Black Star...Mos Def and Talib Kweli shine so bright...score is for the hope for a new Black Star cd

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

that's awesome that they were playing paul's boutique songs. if i dug the new album, i'd probably go. but i don't, so i'm not.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

you know whats cool?

people who used the word "meh" in their posts.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

people should open their ears to underground rap and block out that radio shit, it's ruining hip hop. Score is for music you have to dig for, whether its hip hop, punk or anything. The gems are always hidden - the lone rangers

Icapped2pac (November 9, 2004)

This score is for Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek's album "Reflection Eternal: Train of Thought", which is one of the 10 best hip-hop albums ever. "Quality" was meh, and the new one is complete shit. It's so sad to see a lyricist with SO much talent turn his music into such poppy mass-appeal garbage by selecting some horrible beats to rhyme over.

"Suckas be like playin' themselves to have mass appeal."

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

"It was just him and his DJ guy or whatever the shit they are called"

just say it...i'm white, i don't know shit about hip hop other than the beastie boys and that black people do it, and i'm damn proud!!!

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

Kweli's new record blows. Everything else he has put out is gold but he took a serious misstep with Beautiful Struggle. There is like seriously 3 good tracks and the rest are either slow jams or wannabe radio tracks. Meh

colossalbandit (November 9, 2004)

This score if Talib Kweli. Soul Rebels featuring De la Soul is one of the greatest songs ever in my opinion.

maxmurder (November 9, 2004)

score is for these cats having the sense to stay the hell away from ohio.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

Score's for Talib Kweli, even though his last LP wasn't as great as his previous ones.

MarkieStabone (November 9, 2004)

wow i think that's the exact same set from when they played in fairfax. it was a hell of a show i must say.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

"It was just him (talib kweli) and his DJ guy or whatever the shit they are called."

maybe if he called himself Mix Master, you'd recognize him better. score is for the review, definitely not talib or the beasties. i am pissed this didn't stop in cleveland, though.

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

Please don't review anything ever again. Score is for the BBoys and Talib

captaincrunch (November 9, 2004)

I wanted to go, but tickets were like 32 bucks. Man, thats a lot for a show.

InnuendoAndOutTheOther (November 9, 2004)

this score is for the reviewer thinking Beastie Boys are better than Talib Kweli

Marlon (November 9, 2004)

Boo on your for not appreciating Kweli! You must not know much about rap my friend...

Anonymous (November 9, 2004)

this score is for detroit. how i miss my home.

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