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Refused

The Shape of Punk to Come [reissue]
2004
Burning Heart

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Published on November 19th 2004

The saying is something like, “If it isn’t broken, then don’t fix it.” When I heard that “The Shape of Punk to Come” was heading back to the studio for a second time around, I was not sure if I was too excited about that. I am one of the appreciators of this album and I regard it as one of the best albums ever created. Refused and company were ahead of their time when they said it and their untimely end would prove that no one would every come close to replicating it. Where as many people refuse to admit that this “non-punk” influenced the music they listen to in any fashion, I can still see little touches in many bands that recall this album. So here I am sitting here thinking that this chimerical bombination of twelve bursts is practically the second coming. Any negative change would be considered blasphemy, so the hopes seemed impossibly high for this album to be any form of success. The advertisement for the other remastered albums inside calls it “A punkrock odyssey through shit and failure.” Rather sure of themselves they are…

The changes start rather immediately. The first line of the album is no longer “I’ve got a bone to pick with capitalism,” but is now, “Grab us by the throat and shake the life away.” Hearing this difference was disconcerting and caught me off guard, and would be the set reaction for every change that was made. From the start however, everything is much clearer. Every guitar line, every cymbal hit, every single one of Dennis’s shrieks, it has all been touched up and cleaned up. The full effect of the 5.1 comes experienced as “Let’s take the first bus out of here” literally echoes all around your head, and it was at this point that I realized that this was the way the album was truly meant to be listened to.

The genius of the touch up can be heard right at the beginning of “Liberation Frequency.” I for one did not know that there are actually two little guitar lines strumming along, one being much quieter than the other. However, with the clean up done, it is a lot more noticeable. This is what makes the remastering a complete success. I always knew that “The Shape of Punk to Come” was a rather complex and pretentious album, but on the CD version, a lot of it just gets buried underneath its own distortion and heaviness. Not this time around, for the result of the extra studio work put in to cleaning it up showcases the skills of all the musicians even more. Everything is heard and nothing drowns anything out (except for a few times when Dennis’ vocals are a bit too loud for comfort). But it is these little clean ups done that makes it so great. I never knew that in the stand up bass breakdown on “The Deadly Rhythm” (actually, I don’t know if they added this effect or not) there was the background noise of a little jazz club crowd, clapping at the very end. It is these little tweaks that make listening to this album for the first time an experience. I constantly found myself shocked at first, but then after the change sunk in, pleasantly surprised.

Aside from “Brutish Pome #5” which got a heavy, yet understandably easier makeover, the huge shock of the album is the “Refused Are Fuckin’ Dead.” We all remember the remix put out on “The New Noise Theology EP”, so I was wondering exactly what they were going to call this song, because about halfway through, it completely breaks down into a mix of that old remix with some new little touches thrown in. “The Refused Are Fuckin’ Dead .5 remix?” It’s a bit crazy sounding with all the new electronics thrown in, but after it is all over, the song still feels familiar.

This is the standard aftertaste of every change that was made. It all still feels familiar; the original album just seems like a teaser now. It almost seems like this was the plan all along, that the boys of Refused just knew that they were going to release the album in this fashion eventually. It makes complete use of all the speakers, and not in a way that is overbearing at all. An incredibly pretentious album gets an incredibly pretentious makeover. The shoes still fit on the album. So after I have sat here and converted myself to a frighteningly devoted follower of a defunct band, there has to be something wrong with the album. The only thing that I can think of would be that to truly experience the release the way it was meant would require a lot of electronics surrounding you head. That is quite true, but I also listened to the album on my own crappy two speakers hooked up to my computer, and it still sounds fantastic. Not as cool, but I still will listen to this version of it over the original. So pretty much the only down side I can see to the whole release is that DVD players in cars are still semi-expensive (I think, I don’t look at their prices) and so I cannot blast revolution in the new fashion as I drive down the streets of America suburbia like I want to.

Other than that, nothing is wrong at all. This is one of the best albums ever made even better. And for those that have the equipment to truly experience 5.1 digital surround sound, do not even hesitate. Go buy this album now! But when it is all said and done, the best part of it isn’t even on the actual release. It’s the little flyer advertising all the new releases, as well as a picture of an all black DVD that made me drool continuously for over fifteen minutes. “The Refused Are Fucking Dead DVD – Refused are dead. They spent the last year in existence touring godforsaken hellholes scattered around the western world. This is their testament.” What a bunch of loveable cocky bastards…





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    Posted by AlexAlexAlex on 2006-08-05 09:21:10

    seriously one of the best cd of the last 10 years, and one of the most reveloutionary in the past 20.

    Posted by FuckYouOiOiOi on 2006-03-30 18:43:53

    they totally ripped off international noise conspiracy.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 4, 2005 at 12:05 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Daaaaaamb this is the best CD! I have ever heard and,I wish every body herd and new about this band even my grandmother listens to this CD>> !!!!!!!!!!!......... ;] KEEP UP THE GOOD FU*$#Kn WORK..........

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 at 9:12 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Strung Out.

    Posted by killabot on 2005-08-09 09:54:32
    My Score:

    I love this album. I can't believe it took me awhile to buy it!

    Posted by benz on 2005-07-12 16:53:07
    My Score:

    semantics.

    punk hardcore whatever. this album is great.

    -benz

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 at 9:17 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    fuckers. this isnt punk, this is fucking hardcore. and it is the greatest hardcore record to date. this band was the fucking greatest. punk is talentless shit-rock. refused fucking rocks.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 4:08 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    normally i don't like punk but this is unbelievable !!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 at 9:26 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Antioch Arrow and Guyana Punch Line

    what did you need two more band names to drop? neither of these bands surpass Refused in talent OR importance in the realm of hardcore and/or punk

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 at 12:29 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    This album is excellent.
    They did rip off NOU.
    Plays Pretty for Baby easily surpasses it.

    So what's there to fight about? The originality of this album? C'mon. There are far less original/worse things to rip off than one of the best Hardcore bands of the early 90s.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 at 9:03 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    overrated

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 at 12:46 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Okay, this record is good. But one of the best ever? Naw.

    I'd have to pick "Is This My World?" By Jerry's Kids as the BEST HC record ever.

    -Ken

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 at 12:34 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Fuck this band!

    -Chinatown

    www.fatwreck.com

    Posted by crossfiyaaa on 2004-11-22 21:39:21
    My Score:

    "Hey, lets play a fun game where we're all elitist fucks and name drop bands to make other people feel ignorant!"

    That wasnt my point at all. As many comments here have proven, a lot of people on this board know who NOU is, and I encourage you to seek out their album "Plays Pretty For Baby." I'm just saying that, at least to these ears, Refused sound more than a bit like NOU. Note the jazzy breakdowns, sassy vocals [in fact, both bands have pretty damn similar vocals], live spoken word interludes, etc etc. I think Refused were good, and this is definitely their best album, but its far from the best hardcore album ever. Minor Threat, NOU, Born Against, Antioch Arrow and Guyana Punch Line all easily surpass them.

    - The guy who made the first post comparing NOU to Refused."

    BRAIN!!!!!!

    Posted by yellowtrash on 2004-11-22 19:41:38
    My Score:

    Everyone else, go fuck yourselves. No one cares what you think.

    Well, you could always stop reading our posts if you really believe that.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 at 6:47 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    They fucked it up a little bit, but it's still an awesome disc.

    Everyone else, go fuck yourselves. No one cares what you think.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 at 4:09 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Hey, lets play a fun game where we're all elitist fucks and name drop bands to make other people feel ignorant!"

    That wasnt my point at all. As many comments here have proven, a lot of people on this board know who NOU is, and I encourage you to seek out their album "Plays Pretty For Baby." I'm just saying that, at least to these ears, Refused sound more than a bit like NOU. Note the jazzy breakdowns, sassy vocals [in fact, both bands have pretty damn similar vocals], live spoken word interludes, etc etc. I think Refused were good, and this is definitely their best album, but its far from the best hardcore album ever. Minor Threat, NOU, Born Against, Antioch Arrow and Guyana Punch Line all easily surpass them.

    - The guy who made the first post comparing NOU to Refused.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 at 3:37 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    oh, and incidentally, one of the best hardcore albums EVER

    -notaclevername

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 22, 2004 at 3:35 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    i think we should storm burning heart's business office (or wherever the responsible party is located) and demand that they release the refused dvd NOW

    any takers?

    -notaclevername

    Posted by sickboi on 2004-11-22 13:28:09
    My Score:

    "My real concern is if anyone can actually afford a 5.1 sound system."

    You can get a run-of-the-mill one, with a DVD player for like $200.

    Posted by yellowtrash on 2004-11-22 02:15:59
    My Score:

    My real concern is if anyone can actually afford a 5.1 sound system.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 10:06 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Yeah. NoU is good, Refused isn't. So of course they're not identical.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by FortyMinutesWest on 2004-11-21 21:55:33
    My Score:

    There are similarities, but it's not like they're indentical.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 7:05 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Shape" was a great record, and so was NoU's "Plays Pretty For Baby" - but for the people who say that they sound nothing alike, you should think back to the spoken-word interludes and odd jazzy breakdowns that exist in both bands.

    I agree there are a lot of differences in both bands' sound, but some similarities do exist!

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 12:51 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "New Noise" is a crappy song with an uber-trendy video.

    -bemused

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 7:15 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    I think you're wrong there.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 3:33 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    A good record, but nothing more than good.
    One of the absolute most OVER-FUCKING-RATED albums that would fall into the "punk" genre (or any genre for that matter).

    And if they were still together, I guarentee people wouldn't give as much as a shit about this record.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 9:08 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Not bad, but holy shit, try to rip off Nation of Ulysses a little more blatantly"

    I know, same with that Ornette Coleman motherfucker... Damn, I hate these NoU rip offs!

    -BSD

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 6:39 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I'm suprised that everyone already tapped the "NoU" schtick already. I thought both bands were great, even if the Mr. Lyxzen seems prone to Svenonius worship (Nothing wrong with drawing some inspiration from the greats).

    This is still an excellent record. Probably one of the few records I'd give a perfect score to. Granted their rhetoric is a tad stale and hypocritical, but it still makes for a good listen.

    -ObeyYourParents

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 6:36 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    as much as i may like this it has to be the most overrated album in punk/hardcore

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 5:16 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    You all need to get jobs.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 3:58 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Where as many people refuse to admit that this “non-punk” influenced the music they listen to in any fashion, I can still see little touches in many bands that recall this album-

    little touches? LITTLE TOUCHES? that my friends is an understatement. Every fucking band this side of Senses fail bites this disc-

    oh yeah I discovered this new band the other day aswell, they're called At the Drive-O MY FUCK! AAAAAAAA

    Barkley.

    Posted by kenjamin on 2004-11-20 14:31:27
    My Score:

    oh man, so many douchebags on this thread. Go alphabetize your record collection or something.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 2:23 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    right ok, everyone. except refused SOUND NOTHING LIKE NATION OF ULYSSES. they borrowed their asthetic, no denying it. borrowed stuff like that from born against too. but they don't sound like either band! they may have been influenced by bands, but they took what came before them, added their own stuff and came up with a unique and powerful mix.

    p.s. oh right, they released a single. they MUST be sellouts.

    p.p.s. and drop the elitist "oh you stupid kids have never heard NOU" bullshit. 'cause a lot of us listen to both.

    Posted by stevejonestherealbones on 2004-11-20 14:08:22
    My Score:

    so all you people who are saying refused ripped off tons of bands can come up with one example, nation, and you are still only talking about their look? and its not even like nation had costumes and refused ripped them, its more like they comb their hair similar?

    anyway. anyone like text. i can name drop too bitches. musically better than that international bullshit

    - jones the bones

    - stevejones8770@yahoo.com

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 2:07 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The main difference between the NoU and Refused is that the former was into it for the love of music.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 1:18 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "refused ripped off Nation of Ulysses" is just something jaded scenesters who hate Refused say to sound cool...yeah ok maybe they adapted the look but that's about it...these bands sound way way far apart

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 12:42 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Fuck this negativity. This new mix is incredible and deserving for such a monumental album. It sounds amazing. That's why it won the award for Best Multichannel Reissue at the Surround Music Awards in the US in August

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 8:53 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Haven't heard this version, can't comment on that, but the original was fantastic.

    Yes, Refused borrowed/stole (depending on whether you like the band or not) from a hell of a lot of older groups. They took NOU's image and style, they seized a lot musically from Born Against and Slayer. But Shape didn't sound like anything that any of those bands put out. I love them all, especially NOU, Plays Pretty For Baby was killer. But I truly do believe that Shape is a better album than anything Born Against or Ulysses put out. Refused were better musicians, they had more imagination (sonically; god knows NOU were imaginative in terms of everything else) and it was damned clear that they believed in what they were doing.

    Anyway, the main reason I think Shape was a truly great album was the passion. There was more intensity behind a Dennis shriek or a Sandstrom drum breakdown than behind anything that any of the faux-punk or aimless hardcore bands that were around in the mid 90s managed in their entire career.

    Music can't exist in a vacuum. Yeah, despite NOU's famous Beatles line, NOU owed a debt to many of the bands before them as well. As far as I'm concerned, there's plenty of room for NOU, Born Against and Refused to exist side by side.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 4:29 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    would it make me super idie punx to say that refused is tons better than nation of ulysses and that they dont really sound anything alike? not to say that n.o.u. is bad but they arent similar at all.

    hey the rolling stones ripped off the beatles lets shit down keith richards neck

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 3:12 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Wow, so much animosity to one of the greatest bands in our section of music.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 3:08 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Fuck that, just hop on over to www.dischord.com and buy as many releases as you can. Only $10$. And make sure to buy the debut from the Routineers so you can tell me what they sound like.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by yellowtrash on 2004-11-20 03:04:12
    My Score:

    I am sorry to say, Refused did rip off Nation of Ulysses's aesthetic, and made it more accessible at the same time. Then T(I)NC formed after The Make Up formed. Now I'm just waiting for T(I)NC to break up and start a 70s psych band ala Weird War. Shape Of Punk To Come was good, but I feel like it hasn't aged too well.

    For those who are interested in NoU:
    http://www.southern.com/southern/band/ULYSS/

    The Make-Up:
    http://www.southern.com/southern/band/MAKUP/

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 2:55 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    And NoU had way more cred than this band of sell-outs. For starters, I've never heard of any NoU singles.

    -Nation of Chinatown

    Posted by crossfiyaaa on 2004-11-20 02:34:29
    My Score:

    "Thats the first time pointing out a typo reversed the meaning of the sentence. He meant everyone rips the refused sound and aesthetic off. "

    I know I changed the meaning of the sentence, I got his original post. Guaranteed 90% of the bands today that have this "sound and aesthetic" are ripping off Refused, but Refused just ripped off nation of ulysses and made it popular. When this came out most people thought it was shockingly original and revolutionary, but it really wasn't.

    This reminds me, see the plot to blow up the eiffel tower live.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 1:30 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    they ruined one of the best punk cds ever made. adding minutes of noise into the middle of a song is fucking retarded. making the drums sound like cardboard is retarded. changing the vocals around is seriously stupid. i honestly can't imagine the band listening to this and going "oh yea this is DEFINITELY better. i love how the guitar is almost inaudable!"

    Posted by SilentStorms on 2004-11-20 01:27:14
    My Score:

    I forgot to post under my name. Yay me. Wait... gay me. Sweet.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 1:26 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    I haven't even heard the remastered version, but I love this fucking album. Kiss my ass with ur comments by the way! Yeeeeehaaaaaaaah!!!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 12:58 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Hey, lets play a fun game where we're all elitist fucks and name drop bands to make other people feel ignorant!

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 12:42 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    But the NoU actually sounded good.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 11:48 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Thats the first time pointing out a typo reversed the meaning of the sentence. He meant everyone rips the refused sound and aesthetic off."

    i think that was the joke. anyway, it's true, they clearly ripped off Nation of Ulysses' schtick.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 11:46 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Not bad, but holy shit, try to rip off Nation of Ulysses a little more blatantly.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 11:45 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This just isn't as revolutionary as people seem to think. It's just bad metal with keyboards.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 11:37 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    BSD you're such a fucking fag.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 10:20 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Ok, sorry, but that opening line is one of my favorite opening lines on an album ever, the removal of it takes away majorly from the song, and album. I mean that line sets the tone for the whole fucking album, and when it is followed by "and a few to break" it just screams greates punk opening ever.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 9:42 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    "Refused gets ripped off by everyone"

    I hate pointing out typos, but I think you meant "Refused ripped off everyone"."

    Thats the first time pointing out a typo reversed the meaning of the sentence. He meant everyone rips the refused sound and aesthetic off.

    wyzo

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 9:21 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I love the original record, and as much as it pains me to say it, playing the DVD version was a huge disappointment. Here I was, with my 5.1 setup, anticipating the subwoofer blowing the doors off my apartment, and yet, it was a weaker mix than the CD.

    I know DVD affords a greater dynamic range, but the guitars sound muffled, and as some of the other comments mentioned, the vocals are waaay too high in the mix. I love Dennis' voice on this record, even more so than Songs to Fan the Flames..., but the without the incredible music behind him, it's nowhere near as incredible a performance, or a record.

    I'd say that you should keep listening to your CD, as this mix is really disappointing. I can't imagine why... both Pig Destroyer and Mastodon managed to put together wonderful and expanside 5.1 mixes for their latest releases.

    Posted by crossfiyaaa on 2004-11-19 20:42:19
    My Score:

    "Refused gets ripped off by everyone"

    I hate pointing out typos, but I think you meant "Refused ripped off everyone".

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 8:28 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    i can't believe you gave this reissue a good review...they fucking BUTCHERED one of the greatest punk records of the 90s...this is a giant travesty...the amazing guitar tone is gone...the amazing drumming is toned down...Dennis's voice (and ego) is pushed to the forefront...there's all these horrible bullshit techno-y parts thrown in (see: Brutist Pome, Protest Song, Tannhauser, Refused Are Fucking Dead) and all these different little nuances are thrown in that turn the album to shit...they even changed that amazing first line...god they threw this fucking AWFUL and super awkward radio/sample segment in Protest Song...then proceeded to butcher that amazing guitar line where the drums fade out at the end...I don't know what the fuck they were thinking...and that part in Tannhauser during the spoken word part that used to be so amazing...ugh i don't even wanna talk about it...

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:53 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Pavement formed long before Refused. And just so you know, JTB is my favorite indie band. Fucknuts.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:50 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Go listen to pavement chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:48 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Refused gets ripped off by everyone

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:43 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I've only heard 2 songs by this "legendary" band--New Noise and the one on P-O-R 4. I don't care for either of them.

    -Chinatown

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:07 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    hmmmmm i seem to have put an "a" in there instead of an "e"

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 7:06 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Is it just me or does that new song by the Used sound like a really bad Rafused rip off? Wait a minute, used, refused, refUSED, holy shit!

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 6:56 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    i love the fuck out of this album. but i'm not really ok with them changing it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 6:42 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    just so everyone knows this is a dvd audio cd and needs to be played on a dvd player, it won't play in a normal cd player

    Posted by bemused on 2004-11-19 18:39:43
    My Score:

    amzing album. still sounds as fresh as it did when I first heard it

    -Chris-

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 6:37 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    I actually like this band somewhat. Not that great in my opinion, but I can see how they'd be popular with druggy commies.

    -BSD

    Posted by kenjamin on 2004-11-19 18:26:33
    My Score:

    hmmm... perhaps you should have explained how 5.1 surround sound works? Your review is really vague on that.

    Posted by kenjamin on 2004-11-19 18:25:10
    My Score:

    "I cannot blast revolution in the new fashion as I drive down the streets of America suburbia like I want to." Awesome, except you ended the sentence with a preposition. You fail, otherwise good review. I really hope one of my friends pick this up. Oh and BSD, before you make a negative comment on this album, shut your cake hole.

    Posted by TheOneTrueBill on 2004-11-19 18:25:07
    My Score:

    So pretty much all they did was remaster it, and screw with the one song?

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 19, 2004 at 6:10 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    fucking eh.

    Posted by boba_fett on 2004-11-19 18:03:32
    My Score:

    this cd is awesome.