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Fall Out Boy: From Under The Cork TreeFrom Under The Cork Tree (2005)
Island Records

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What is it about Fall Out Boy that makes everyone pick up arms and march off to war? With all the Internet shit-talking you'd think they were the anti-Christ (or the return of Christ, depending on your particular belief), but they're not. They're a pop-punk band from Chicago. And for those expect.
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What is it about Fall Out Boy that makes everyone pick up arms and march off to war?

With all the Internet shit-talking you'd think they were the anti-Christ (or the return of Christ, depending on your particular belief), but they're not. They're a pop-punk band from Chicago. And for those expecting anything else out of the boys, you're looking too closely at their music.

With that in mind, let's take away the context. Viewed on its own, solely as a CD, From Under The Cork Tree is a fun listen, much like their last FBR/Island/whomever effort Take This To Your Grave.

There's always been a little more to their lyrics than "I love you" or "I don't love you, choke and die." Their critics would argue not much more, and their devoted fanbase would argue much more. I'm skeptical here and am more inclined to be on the side of their critics.

Tracks like "Of All the Gin Joints in the World," "Dance, Dance," and "Our Lawyer…" will bore into your brain like a diamond-tipped drill after just one listen, and are some of the best songs Fall Out Boy has ever put to CD, but others badly ape pop-punk stereotypes a lot like (you guessed it) their last CD. The band hasn't changed dramatically since Take This To Your Grave, and again, it doesn't take a genius to see that coming.

Musically, the band isn't doing anything drastically different, but did anyone really expect them to? It's still pop-punk which you've heard before countless times, and it's still a catchy if slightly ridiculous release. Few groups give a blood-pumping, scornful diatribe against a formerly loved one like the band does here, and arguments that Fall Out Boy is vapid and done before are applicable, but you're not buying this to hear something new, and you know it.

There's an audience for this, and those listening to Spazz or Refused looking in From Under The Cork Tree for anything but a smile and a good time will miss the point. As for their intended audience, it should be noted that From Under The Cork Tree isn't the Second Coming.

Put down the pitchforks, put down the torches, and give it a listen.

 

 
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C-Men (June 29, 2008)

to: ilovesonny

1. FOB is TOTALLY gay
2. Their music is totally SHITTY
3. i am going to continue being an asshole
4. this band SUCKS
5. i WILL USE GAY and a synonym for SHITTY if i think they are gay i will call them gay!
FOB is the gayest band ever!
6. I HATE THEM!
P.S. THEY SUCK! AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK UNTIL THEY DIE!

joeynukes (March 26, 2008)

The excessive hatred is a little unnecessary. Just leave the mainstream kids alone. Its not their fault we're so much cooler than them.

I don't see pop-punk in this band, just pop with distortion.

TommyPickles (March 25, 2008)

Youíre ruining music. Thanks a lot you fucking assholes.

DragaChild (January 20, 2008)

Why the hell is fallout boy even on this fucking website?
Its fucking mainstream bullshit, they might have had SOME talent, but they sold out long ago. It makes me sad when I hear people claiming this is Punk Rock. Or even Pop Punk, its just Pop. There is not a single twinge of punk in this CD, its fucking horrible.

i-hate-winnipeg (November 18, 2007)

whoa...

i'm gonna go listen to some Larry Arms now..... g'damn.........

The_Crowing (October 24, 2007)

First of all, i hate pop-punk. There, I fucking said it. This album does have one feature that makes it not quite shit. The lyrics are above-average.

thomas7155 (September 9, 2007)

F.U.C.T.

fugazifreak (May 22, 2007)

there worst when they became MTV trash
I still listen to Take This To Your Grave every now and then
which is in my opion an orginal pop album but this is terrible

mrdogg45 (March 28, 2007)

Meh.

This is catchy, poppy music for the kids. There really isn't any reason not to like it if you're into pop-rock, but it's not really my cup of tea.

jy (February 13, 2007)

fall out boy is an awesome punk rock band

Synthos (November 19, 2006)

Fall Out Boy capture something rarely heard and thats good punk rock music, all you haters out there have no idea what your talking about so just keep quiet. There an awesome band (one of my faves) and kick ass live! you guys just hate listening to anyone who's "made it" the next album will prove there worth to punk to see...

crazytoledo (September 18, 2006)

I'm liking Arma Angelus way more.

And in case you don't know who that is, it's an older hardcore band that Pete Wentz does vocals (basically shouting) and Rise Against's vocalist plays bass.

Funny thing is someone said that Jesse Zaraska (former Misery Signals vocalist) looks like Pete Wentz, but I noticed that Pete sounds kind of similar to Jesse when he was doing vocals for Arma Angelus.

treos (August 10, 2006)

i like their singles and download them for free to listen to occasonaly but definitely would not buy and yes they sound nothing like they do on the cd live. Their singing is nowhere near that good.

totalstranga (July 26, 2006)

Like All American Rejects, I see this as a pop album. And i might like them more if I didnt feel like punching the singer in his(her?) face. haha

Cult Heroes!!!

Anonymous (July 19, 2006)

Shut up thedarrien you fucking pansy, this band sucks

swear_to_shake_it_up (July 13, 2006)

to thedarian, your coment on the second, ouch. made me laugh all the same.

i like them though dispite how much theyre bagged.

Waffles (July 8, 2006)

fall out boy is a discrace to punk rock. i dont even know if i'd call them punk. i think "shit" is much more appropriate.

thedarrien (July 2, 2006)

""Alright, all the people who say that Fall Out Boy's new album " From Under the Cork Tree" has not even previewed it. The vocalist,Patrick Stump, has one of the most increadable voices that i have ever heard. The basses,Peter Wentz, wrote all the beautiful lyrics and they are indeed great. The Guitarist, Joe Truman, has the most increadable energy on stage. The drumer,Andrew, is an increadable drummer. So I sugest that you get your facts straight befor you write these things that you write.

The members of Fall Out Boy have worked hard to get to were there at and they deserve every good thing that they have got.

Also, to the remark "or if they even write there own words" they do. The way they do it is Pete will write the words and give them to Patrick and he wrights the music.

So, in conclusion, You need to look up Fall Out Boy and realy know what you are talking about instead of hearing one bad performane and judging from that. Stop being so fucking jealous of them and get with the flow!""

1] You have obviously not seen Fall Out Boy live, or you at least didn't pay any attention. Patrick has a terrible voice, when I saw them about 90% of the notes were completely off. And that's on top of the fact that he missed a good 40% of the words anyway. The only thing that saved them from an absolute TERRIBLE performance was the fact that the crowd was incredibly energetic and a TON of fun.

2] Pete Wentz does everything for that band, the rest of them pretty much just sit back, look pretty, and watch him talk the entire time. Hello, boring.

3] None of them had any stage presence whatsoever. Sorry.

4] Those were not facts, those were just your opinions. Get your terms correct before you write these things that you write.

So in conclusion, you really need to look past the fact that MTV says they are amazing and look at the actual performances and the actions of the band. And, you should probably learn to spell as well.

Good day.

thedarrien (July 2, 2006)

This was an awful record. I personally used to be a fan of Fall Out Boy, I thought their first [Fall Out Boy's Night Out With Your Girlfriend] and second [Take This to Your Grave] albums were great. I loved them. Then they came out with this album, and I was stoked. I bought it, and took a listen, and....complete shit. Every single song-and I MEAN every single song-sounds exactly the same.
It is horribly disappointing when a good band makes good music, and then gets picked up by a major label or MTV, and instead of going on making creative and original music, they sink into that cookie-cutter musical mold and start making crap like this. Another good example is Good Charlotte--I was a fan of them for a long time when I was younger, their first and second albums were great, and then they got all popular, and let it get to their heads. and their third album was AWFUL.

Now, I'm not saying that "once a band gets popular, that means they suck cause I'm not the only person who listens to them!" No, I'm not that big of an elitist scene bitch [haha]. If you can get paid big bucks for doing what you love, by all means go for it. The problem comes in when the band sacrifices the music for the popularity, and that what it seems like Fall Out Boy did.

not to mention the fact that they are all huge assholes: about a year ago, a good friend of mine's band was supposed to play a massive benefit show with Fall Out Boy, and FOB backed out of the show about two weeks beforehand because someone offered them $5,000 to play a graduation party the same night.

Anonymous (June 13, 2006)

we know ther cool no need for they rock my socks how fucking gay u shitty dumb ass horny little imature i have nothing better to say girlz!

punky_monkey212 (June 9, 2006)

Your album rocks my socks you guys did a good job i love you guys!!!!

strawberry06 (June 4, 2006)

I think that this was one of the most premoted bands since nirvana; thats why they are so liked. I loved there first album and loved there second one even more. These guys are even playing on radio stations that only play rap and hip-hop. I tink we will be seeing a lot more of this group in the future!

Anonymous (May 30, 2006)

A friend told me to check this band out. They seem to be a band you either love or hate.

I personally can't stand them. Very unoriginal music, the song titles are the most original thing and thats a bit gimmicky.

Not sure about the FOB fans, but I like my music to have a message with lyrics I can understand. Because lyrics are quite a big part of music. With FOB the singer is just way too whiney, horrid vocals. And the lyrics are questionable, "Sleeping for the wrong team" hrmm it would seem its the FOB fans who are a bit gay.

When a band is played as much as these are, they'll get popular no matter how bad they are. I saw their video for dance dance (a short title!?), they just seem so fake - they have no genuine energy you might see from other groups. Each to their own, if you like FOB, be my guest, but your missing out on other stuff.

And posting our opinions here is not 'sad'. Generally PunkNews is a good way of finding new music, we write stuff about bands we like, we can write stuff about bands we dont like also. May I remind you that you are posting here to so it looks as though you need to get a life too eh?

Anyway, I'd advise people against FOB. Simply because their must be hundreds of better bands out there. Also their fans seem to have a problem accepting others' opinions...

Anonymous (May 15, 2006)

most of u lot r gay! FALLOUT BOY ARE GREAT! i dont c y people come on here just 2 diss others. its just shows what retards they are and have nothing else to do with their tme then to talk bad about others. da people this is going out 2...GET A LIFE ! u obv ent gt a gd enuf 1 if you have to come on here hating!

Anonymous (May 10, 2006)

who ever wrote who doesnt like fall out fags are gay u r fuckin gay u probably take it in the ass by all of them and like 2 get donkey punched fuck all u fuckin fagets go 2 hell SLIT YOUR WRISTAND KILL YOURSELVS U FUCKIN EMO FAGETS

kimmyjeter (May 4, 2006)

*to the person 3 comments below)

fob is shitty

ilovepete (May 4, 2006)

no stumpie is my nickname, and you spelt it wrong. Pete is my boyfriend and we've been dating for two months. No he is not gay. So ha ha im sleeping with Pete and your not.

ilovepete (May 4, 2006)

no stumpie is my nickname, and you spelt it wrong. Pete is my boyfriend and we've been dating for two months. No he is not gay. So ha ha im sleeping with Pete and your not.

ilovesonny (May 2, 2006)

1. FOB is NOT gay
~just because you dont like them doesnt mean that they
are gay
2. Their music is awesome
3. Quit being such a homophobic asshole
4. Pull your head out of your ass so that maybe you
could hear some AWESOME music
5. Dont use GAY and a synonym for SHITTY if you think
that they are shitty then just call them shitty.
FOB is the awesomest band ever!
6. Whoever said that FOB was muttenchops then you
should go suck a fat one because you dont know what
the hell you are talking about
P.S. Pete is hot in a towel and Patty is not Stumpy : )

ilovesonny (May 2, 2006)

arturoroxmysox ---you are a stupid peice of
garbage that has been shit on by a dog that
has been eating cat shit for 3 years and shut
your herpes encrusted mouth up before i reach
through the screen and grap you by the throat
and rip out your shitty vocal cords. And by the
way...who gives a shit if your going to fucking
vocal school or not...you still dont know what
the hell your talking about.
P.S. Pete looks hot in a towel and Patty is not Stumpy

ilovesonny (May 2, 2006)

1. fall out boy is awesome
2. Pete looks hot in a towel
3. mjg--bitch your trash
4. patty's not stumpy
5. anyone who thinks FOB sucks then they can trip on a rock, fall in cow shit, get up and go run into a wall and bash their head into it until their brains fall out of their head because they dont know what they are talking about

Anonymous (April 19, 2006)

the below 2 comments say it all, they're popular because some girls (and some gay guys) think the bands members are hot. Their music sucks completley, terrible lyrics and i cant understand wot the guy is saying half the time.

Anonymous (April 18, 2006)

I luv fall out boy!!! i luv their new cd "from under a cork tree"!! and i think that pete and the other band members are so hott!!!! i luv you guys always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~kyla~~

Anonymous (April 18, 2006)

I luv fall out boy!!! i luv their new cd "from under a cork tree"!! and i think that pete and the other band members are so hott!!!! i luv you guys always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous (April 17, 2006)

they appeal to 90% 12 year old girls, and the occasional gay guy.

emo will die in a few months, these talentless shitheads will go with them.

Anonymous (April 17, 2006)

i'd much prefer listen to a band that doesn't rely on stupidly long song titles to sell their songs, heck, with most bands i can actually understand what they're saying (not lelalala or w/e FOB sing). Typical pop-emo sort of thing...

And what the hell is with the fans; "If you dont like falloutboy your gay". I don't think so, FOB are emo and the lyrics are something like 'were sleeping for the wrong team' so yeah, its more like if you listen to fallout boy your gay.

usual sort of cash-in on a trend band - they'll be gone pretty soon =]

Anonymous (April 14, 2006)

they are crap with a capital C.

I'd rather listen to our Mark sing.

Anonymous (April 2, 2006)

i liked it, its nothing special but its good for just listeing to

oh and to the person 3 below me, could you actually be more homophobic? you do realise that by calling everything "gay" and people "fags" you actually make all but the most mentally deficient readers devalue your opinion

hope you fall in a well and die, preferably slowly,

that said fall out boy still aren't a great band,

Anonymous (March 30, 2006)

These "discussions" are more saddening than most of the songs from FOB's album. In the first corner we have the "13 year old girls" everyone else seems to hate collectively, like because of their overused butchered English, all whilst casting their curses with their best effords of eloquence (read: exclamation marks). Yeah, I admit, one more OMG and I'm gonna go KIA. But it gets worse in the second corner... behold. The true punks. Complaining about the "gay" lyrics (some argument) and how they don't give a fuck about this music, yet still taking their time to look into these reviews and give shitty comments about them, rendering everything they say effectively useless in the first place. You know what people, let's all gather for an apocalyptic internet-war and chop each others head off using rhetorics. The results will be nice: no more bandwidth lost to these "reviews", for example.

Anonymous (March 26, 2006)

hahahahaha, gay.

Anonymous (March 24, 2006)

Fall out boy is the gayest band to ever walk on the face of the earth. They suck.

Here are some reasons.

1.No musical Talent.
2. Mainstream pieces of crap
3. MUTTONCHOPS!
4. Gay video about vampires.
5.Lame attempt at humanity.
6.MUTTONCHOPS!

Dont bother responding or commenting about this...comment..because I will most likely never come back.

And the prick who called all the little "12 year old posers" You are a fag. You have to learn other people like music besides you..and also..you like gay music..so fuck you.

Anonymous (March 22, 2006)

omg i love fall out boy! i think Pete is so sexy! im going 2 one of their concerts 2morrow n i can't wait!
*Lacie*

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Oh my effin go...i love this song and video it is so bad ass

Anonymous (March 4, 2006)

also hate all this sell out shit, everyone goes on about it and its just the fact that they amongst other bands such as GREEN DAY just wanted to make themselves a sucess. Most of the bands that aren't sell out's are actually the ones who are really crap. (ie not being able to get a decent record deal etc)

Anonymous (March 4, 2006)

you know i wanted to hate this band with their typical emo screamo song names. I also really wanted to hate them as a stereotypical band in that sense, most of their albums are a little bland but there is some corking tracks such as dance dance, and get busy living or get busy dying. I'd reccomend a listen if your not a stereotypical emo kid...

Anonymous (February 23, 2006)

Fall out Boy rock!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! there songs are so cool to rock out to they are the coolest band ever and i love them there are my fav . i get to see them live there songs Dance Dance , Sugar were going down , little more sixteen candels a little more touch me Fall Out Boy rock my world

Anonymous (February 18, 2006)

have to say i normally hate this kind of music, but for some reaon it kinda appeals to me, especcially tracks like dance,dance and sugar were goin' down. they could really do with shortening their album titles though...(see: I slept with someone in falloutboy and all i got was this stupid song written about me)

Anonymous (February 13, 2006)

This cd is good but I have to say .. their old songs are AWESOMELY PRICELESS!

Dahl_To_The_Rescue (February 9, 2006)

What has the music scene come too? This band is pure garbage and its cult following is idiotic. There is only one reason why anyone should like this band. If you are a girl who has just gone through puberty and want to jump on the "look at how I dress, I am soooo punk" bandwagon, then maybe I would understand why you would like them.

Anonymous (February 5, 2006)

They sold out, and not for the better

Anonymous (February 4, 2006)

a bunch of posers for scene girls and gay guys... the lyrics in sugar we're going down are gay - read them! I cant believe i downloaded these talentless fucks, must delete!

they are a boy band with guitars, and no talent. they are hated by millions (of musically smart people) because they suck, a 12 year old could play their song ffs. they have no intergrity and if u like them, u clearly dont know music very well...

Anonymous (February 4, 2006)

i gave it a download, and took a listen

im sorry - but i cant understand why people support them. They are clearly talentless, the guy is so whiney it cant even be classed as singing. the lyrics are pretty gay too. their style isn't original either... it's a shame its bands like this that are highly aclaimed these days and not someone with talent.

do not buy... end of

sk8rchic (February 1, 2006)

i liked the cd pretty well but then everbody just wanted the cd or loved them then it got annoying so i don't like the cd as much as i did when it came out. the gangstas are starting to listen and that is just fucking gross they listen to gay ass rap but still LOVE fall out boy

Anonymous (January 31, 2006)

Fall out boy makes me want to go for a ride in an armored car with a sexual predator, nuff said

Anonymous (January 27, 2006)

What I don't understand is how people can come into this forum and just rant about how much shit Fall Out Boy is. Honestly. Do you not have better things to do with your time? Obviously not.

I, personally, love Fall Out Boy. This CD- not so much. But that's beside the point.

And as for the people that all of their comments similar to, "OMGZZ I TOTALLY LUVVV FOB!!!! LOLZ DEY R SOOO KEWL!!" -- good for them. They may be mainstream followers, but hey, that's who they are ;)

And as much as some of you may HATE how Fall Out Boy has now gone mainstream... They need to make their money somehow! And now, at least their music is heard more. That's the main reason for being an artist in the first place, right? Getting your thoughts out in the world?

Anyways, tis all.
Have a great day.

Anonymous (January 21, 2006)

listen up all u little faggots... u may not like them but that doesnt mean you have to put them down... if u dont like them then good ur entitled to ur own opinion but u dont have to comment just to fucking diss them thank you

Anonymous (January 16, 2006)

From under the cork tree rules!! i love fall out boy!!!!!they're the best! i wish i could go to one of their concerts!

Anonymous (January 13, 2006)

i luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv!FALL OUT BOY! they r the best thing in the world!!!!!!!!!! btw: i am mrs.pete wentz! he is the sexiest thing alive!!! he is all mine!!!!

Anonymous (January 13, 2006)

btw there way more better bands from chicago

for example: the falcon, alkaline trio, the smoking popes

they are the Chi bands you should be listening to not this shit

take care

Anonymous (January 13, 2006)

isnt it awesome how FOB rips off AFI on that intro to dance, dance?

and whats with the moshing in that saturday video? i mean, c'mon guys you are poorly done pop/punk not bane

oh and also on that reinventing the wheel song, FOB totally rips off the tune and vocals of the chorus froms saves the day

wow guys, way to be 'original' this band blows and anyone who likes them obviously has no taste in music
0/5

Anonymous (January 12, 2006)

i love fall out boy!!!! patrick stump is so hot!! i want to marry him!!!!

Anonymous (January 11, 2006)

Okay, some of you people have a point, and others don't.

To Paul, FOB has five albums including EP's.

To all the gay baseball fans writing in,
1.How did we even get on the subject of baseball?
2.Just leave. You're gay, I don't even know how you turn a FOB forum for their new album into LAST WORD WITH JIM ROME or whatever that is called.

Now, lets get down to business:
I think FOB is being unique, long song titles that no one thought of doing is pretty smart. HOWEVER, you don't need EVERY song on the album to be a whole god damn sentence.
I think Patrick's trucker hats are cool.
The bass player is OKAY, but nothing to rave about.
Andrew Hurley is a really good drummer, so all you people out there saying he sucks are just jealous because you can't play as good as he can.

And, LIGHTEN UP! ITS A STUPID FORUM! EITHER YOU LIKE THE CD OR NOT, I DON'T REALLY CARE. I'M WRITING THIS TO SEE WHAT OTHER IDIOTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS!

thats the last word,
::xD::

Anonymous (January 10, 2006)

i like fall out boy for their music, as long as they dont turn into the next green day even if there's little 12 years going around "oMgZ i lUv fAlL oUt boY11!1! pEte wEntZ iZ zO hAwT lolololl!!!!11"

i truly do not care what people say about the bands i like, because i can take that criticism. i really couldn't give a shit and im sure there's other people that couldn't either.

Anonymous (January 10, 2006)

"Every faggot who says this album sucks obviously hasn't listened."

There's a reason that this band generates so much hatred, and it's not because of any kind of elitism. It's because they fucking suck ass musically. You may like them, I don't hate you for it, it's just having bad taste in music, but me and millions of others who agree with me have the right to point out when a band is completely and utterly fucking awful. If you can't take seeing critiscism of bands you like, don't go on the fucking internet, it's not rocket science.

Anonymous (January 10, 2006)

this is my guiltyest fucking pleasure ever. I LOVE this band and both of their cd's. This shit is great, all accross the board. One of the 10 best new school pop punk cd's (meaning only taking into account post-dude ranch pop punk). 'sugar we're going down' and 'nobody puts baby in the corner' are perfect. the album is so strong all the way through. can't say enough of these guys, good guys really.

paul

okay, first of all, FOB HAS FIVE ALBUMS(including EPs), NOT TWO MORON. SEE! HIS FIRST SONG IS SUGAR WE'RE GOING DOWN, YOU KNOW HE IS A POSER!!

Okay, another thing. I agree, I used to love FOB. But reading this, it opened my eyes:

First of all, all the twelve year old girls writing in saying "I LOVE FOB SOO MUCH!!". There is a 90% they only know three songs, YOU ARE POSERS. STOP WASTING OUR TIME WITH YOUR NON-NEEDED OPINION.

Another thing, 12/13 year old girls going to concerts just because they know three songs. Stop ruining it for everyone else.

I agree. Take This To Your Grave is a really good album, but I find nothing unique on From Under The Cork Tree. I mean, yes, the lyrics make no sense whatsoever, Matisyahu makes more sense than those words.

FOB became like Green Day unintentionally. They never knew that Sugar We're Going Down was going to blow up to be this big. BUT, they could have spent more time on the video. Who really wants to see reindeer man try to get a girlfriend, while her father is shooting at him with a crossbow. Green Day, I am gonna admit it, sucks. The old stuff, before they started being like everyone else, is five times better. Take off the eyeliner guys, and start being the Green Day I know.

Another thing, yes, FOB sucks live. I heard Sugar We're Going Down on the preview to Nokia Unwired, and I had to cover my ears. It sucked so bad, it wasn't even funny. I heard Dead On Arrival live, I couldn't even hear the guitars playing, thats how bad it was. I mean, come on, your gonna play, take it seriously.My friend told me they lip sync on stage, and I say, unless they have a song on where they suck live, then they aren't lipsyncing.

So yeah, taunt me all you want, but the majority that is gonna taunt me are the posers that think they have FOB all figured out with two songs. But thats the cold, hard facts, and if you 12 year olds wanna taunt me, do it, but remember, your still a poser.

::xDx::

Anonymous (January 3, 2006)

OK...i personally like Fall Out Boy but i liked it soooooooooo much better BEFORE the switched to island records. Get your butts off MTV and concentrate on your music...not being a popular band!! Popular bands SUCK!!!! Take Greenday for example...Wake me up when september ends...what kind of crap is that!!!! Long story short...GET OFF MTV AND START BEING A REAL PUNK BAND AGAIN!

Anonymous (December 27, 2005)

Best. Band. Ever. No matter what they sing or say they will always be a wonderful definitely rad high potential band to me. If you don't agree, I don't care. Embrace the boys from the music they produce not their looks. There's alot more to those pretty faces. I truly love them.
-Amanda

ryan_e34 (December 26, 2005)

I heard that secretly the bass player is a transvetite hooker who gives free head after their shows

Anonymous (December 24, 2005)

fallout boy r the fuckin shit! so guys get over it THEY ROCK!!!

Anonymous (December 19, 2005)

Fall Out Boy is a sliver above The Backstreet boys in artistic integrity. There is not anything true punk about them. They are phony bullshit.

Anonymous (December 19, 2005)

if I was 13 I would like this.

come on people they are on NOW 20! I bought that shit when I was 13. Terrible

Anonymous (December 15, 2005)

I couldn't believe i caught myself listening to FOB's music. This CD is really catchy with lyrics that don't make any sense. One thing that really annoys me are all the 13 year old girls at their concert complaining about the mosh pits. Never again will iI go to another FOB show.

Anonymous (December 9, 2005)

um. i like them basically because they dont make any sense. so, i dont really care if no one else likes them, i do.

its about the music. yeahhhh.

Anonymous (November 28, 2005)

"She says she's no good with words but I'm worse
Barely stuttered out"-Dance,Dance
See? that douch bag even admits to being a shitty writer
-hog-

Anonymous (November 28, 2005)

the score is for the fact that eventually, they will all die. imagine a dick that says fall out boy raping an ass that says "music". thats them alright. the sugar we're watever..... video made me wanna slit my wrists.
so shitty
-the hog-

Anonymous (November 18, 2005)

OMG!! i love fallout boy they r the best pop-punk band ever!!! my friends and i listen to them all the time in my shag wagon (my old beaten up van)!!!!
Love ya Guys!!! Keep doing wat ur doing!!!!
~June

Anonymous (November 12, 2005)

shut the fuck up =)

Anonymous (November 10, 2005)

OMG!!! ! ! !! ! ! !!!! !!!!! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! !!! ! ! !!!!!! ! ! ! ! ! ! !!!! ! !! ! ! !! ! !! !!! !! !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! !! !! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! !!! ! ! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !! ! !! ! ! ! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! ! ! !! ! ! !! ! ! ! !!! ! !!!! !! ! ! ! !!!

Anonymous (November 10, 2005)

Pete is ugly. Why?

peteisprettyinpink182 (November 8, 2005)

FOB is the best but if you listen to their first cd before they got manstream the only way people would reconize is Pat's voice but the fuckin rock and PEte' and Pat are lyric gods in my world:)

Anonymous (November 5, 2005)

i luv it and fall out boy i luv u guyz

Anonymous (November 2, 2005)

I Love Fall Out Boy!

They are so awesome Live.. check them out!
http://www2.fanscape.com/fuse/stevenrock.aspx

Anonymous (October 25, 2005)

fall out boy is fucking awesome

colin (October 12, 2005)

this review really shows how excessive use of exclamation points (that's these things [!] for those who were never taught proper grammar) can really sum up your arguement. and i made the grammatical crack because it seems the more exclamation points you use, the worse your grammar is.

Anonymous (October 11, 2005)

I Think this album really is good, despite what that moron critc wrote, Fall Out Boy hasnt changed much, but why would they need to when that have that sound that makes everyone want to listen? So their lyrics aren't "Cut my wrists and throw my dead body in a river." I thank them for that, lyrics like that give the punk rock scene a bad name, i'd much rather listen to Fall Out Boy rather than horrible bands like the bands that have depressing lyrics (The Used for example) any day.

falloutboy_fan42 (October 5, 2005)

This CD effin rocks....I got it about 2 months ago and still can't get it out of my cd player...you all need it.

Anonymous (September 26, 2005)

100% FALL OUT BOY

Anonymous (September 26, 2005)

Its all a bunch of shit just listen to them u will like them extactully wat da other guy said dont turn shit into polictics it bull shit! personally i like fall out boy alot but get ova how there causin shit cuz they not causin anything but ur time ! fall out boy

Anonymous (September 26, 2005)

fuck u all u ppl fall out boy is definetlt 100% the best punk band ! im stickin with u guys none of that shitty my chemical romance that shits gay! FALL OUT BOY!!!

Anonymous (September 24, 2005)

Its fucking music. Either you like it or you don't, what does it really matter if it sounds like thier old stuff. Why would you want something that sounds like something you already have? Either it was well spent cash or a disapointment. Why does everyone have to turn a simple comfort such as music into fucking politics? Its MUSIC...either you listen and you like or you listen and you don't, and instead of bitching about it just give the damn cd to someone else. Everyone's a sell out, but only those of us too ignorant to realize this bitch about it.

Anonymous (September 23, 2005)

to everyone on this message board who hates Fall Out Boy:
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!! this is the best CD i've ever bought and i have bought many!!!!! plus i luv patrick stump so i love this CD even more!!!!!

Anonymous (September 19, 2005)

Ok so Rancid, Atreyu, And UnderOath are my favorite bands and have been for a long time. Fall Out Boy's last album was great and now that they switched to Island, the depth and quality has gone down but its so catchy. I officialy have the cd but ever since theywent all MTV on the hardcore fans I have lost all respect for them. MTV......... what a great way to turn great bands into corprate garbage. Ha I hate you guys who say you love them just because you have the song (The worst of the album!) on your mp3 player. I wish they would get off MTV and go back to Fuse and the real Fall Out Boy will appear agian. The albums ok....

SkolarX (September 1, 2005)

reading these comments deeply saddens me. did no one take english in school? i mean come one people, grammer is important. that said i like this album, have since about a week after it came out, it did take a little while to grow on me. it can't be anarchy all the time kiddies...

arturoroxmysox (August 25, 2005)

LOL. i guess its easier to hide when your anonymous.

No, they are far from the best band. Their lyrics aren't deep...haha...dont even kid me...haha

And where are you pulling Justin Timberlake from?

I may actually listen to him quicker than this sad excuse for a band.

Anonymous (August 22, 2005)

Fall Out Boy rocks my socks off!!!!.....i love the sideburns....and the music video!!!.....Sugar we're going down is the best song ever made!!.....if you don't like fall out boy then go to hell!!!

Anonymous (August 19, 2005)

people who don't like fall out boy are gay little fags!(WHO LIKE FUCKIN' JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE)you people are fucking STUPID!!!YOU WOULDN'T KNOW GOOD MUSIC IF IT BIT YOU IN THE FUCKING ASS!!!!!!!!!!! i love FALL OUT BOY!!!!
you people SUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous (August 18, 2005)

regardless of the shitty review this cd got...i picked it up a couple weeks ago and cant seem to bring myself to take it out of my cd player. i love how unique patricks voice is and how deep petes lyrics are not to mention joes energy and andys awesome skills. i also loved take this to your grave...but from under the cork tree is ten times better! so for all u fukers who think u know what ur talking about when u say they dont write their own music or they suck live....eat a dick cause u obvioulsy dont know!!! this band is awesome!!! :)

arturoroxmysox (August 18, 2005)

this album doesnt even deserve a star

Anonymous (August 16, 2005)

u kno wat dis isn't jus 3 stars dis is 4 i can't believe u jus don't understand wat dey r sayin.look listen 2 da lyrics more carefully den prolly u wood understand

arturoroxmysox (August 14, 2005)

.Alright, all the people who say that Fall Out Boy's new album " From Under the Cork Tree" has not even previewed it. The vocalist,Patrick Stump, has one of the most increadable voices that i have ever heard. The basses,Peter Wentz, wrote all the beautiful lyrics and they are indeed great. The Guitarist, Joe Truman, has the most increadable energy on stage. The drumer,Andrew, is an increadable drummer. So I sugest that you get your facts straight befor you write these things that you write.

LOL, apparantly you havent listen to many voices. Beautiful lyrics...where??...im looking for good lyrics...not finding anything...And anybody can have energy on stage..rofl. And andrew isnt anything special.

Anonymous (August 12, 2005)

... Everyone that says the lyrics are great, that is sad. Its all about they loved people and now they want to kill themselves. All it does is depress you. The guitarist sucks, I go over my friends house every once in a while and play hius drums and i am better than their drummer. I think it sucks 100%

AshleyRabon (August 11, 2005)

Alright, all the people who say that Fall Out Boy's new album " From Under the Cork Tree" has not even previewed it. The vocalist,Patrick Stump, has one of the most increadable voices that i have ever heard. The basses,Peter Wentz, wrote all the beautiful lyrics and they are indeed great. The Guitarist, Joe Truman, has the most increadable energy on stage. The drumer,Andrew, is an increadable drummer. So I sugest that you get your facts straight befor you write these things that you write.

The members of Fall Out Boy have worked hard to get to were there at and they deserve every good thing that they have got.

Also, to the remark "or if they even write there own words" they do. The way they do it is Pete will write the words and give them to Patrick and he wrights the music.

So, in conclusion, You need to look up Fall Out Boy and realy know what you are talking about instead of hearing one bad performane and judging from that. Stop being so fucking jealous of them and get with the flow!

Anonymous (August 11, 2005)

Alright, all the people who say that Fall Out Boy's new album " From Under the Cork Tree" has not even previewed it. The vocalist,Patrick Stump, has one of the most increadable voices that i have ever heard. The basses,Peter Wentz, wrote all the beautiful lyrics and they are indeed great. The Guitarist, Joe Truman, has the most increadable energy on stage. The drumer,Andrew, is an increadable drummer. So I sugest that you get your facts straight befor you write these things that you write.

The members of Fall Out Boy have worked hard to get to were there at and they deserve every good thing that they have got.

Also, to the remark "or if they even write there own words" they do. The way they do it is Pete will write the words and give them to Patrick and he wrights the music.

So, in conclusion, You need to look up Fall Out Boy and realy know what you are talking about instead of hearing one bad performane and judging from that. Stop being so fucking jealous of them and get with the flow!

arturoroxmysox (August 9, 2005)

fall out boy has got to be the worst band ever...and heres why

the vocalist...is just terrible...matt pryor (get up kids), dan andriano and matt skiba (alkaline trio) own him in all aspects of vocals (yes, i would know this...i am going to college on vocals...kthx)

the guitarist cant even play his own parts

is there a bass line??

drummer...rofl...rofl...rofl...

lyrically....they write the most cliche lyrics...if they even write them...who knows!!

and in terms of this album (and the last) it was just terrible...i dont understand how you can like them...kthxbai

Anonymous (August 4, 2005)

Awsome!

Anonymous (August 2, 2005)

"I really started to like Fall Out Boy after hearing a few of their songs, then I saw them on Jimmy Kimmel and it was the absolute WORST live performance I have ever heard. The guy couldnt even sing it was more like heavy, gasping breaths while trying to yell. Then to top it all off, the guitarist tries to act badass and slams his guitar after the performance, and it doesnt break the first time, so he does it again. LOL. They are good on the CD, but they are fake. You can tell the singer is sooo touched up on the album, because he sucks ass live."

Ahh yes i completely agree with this person... i saw them on Kimmel, and Conan O'Brien. Both times, they were just terrible.

Anonymous (July 31, 2005)

I really started to like Fall Out Boy after hearing a few of their songs, then I saw them on Jimmy Kimmel and it was the absolute WORST live performance I have ever heard. The guy couldnt even sing it was more like heavy, gasping breaths while trying to yell. Then to top it all off, the guitarist tries to act badass and slams his guitar after the performance, and it doesnt break the first time, so he does it again. LOL. They are good on the CD, but they are fake. You can tell the singer is sooo touched up on the album, because he sucks ass live.

RondoMondo (July 31, 2005)

Fall Out Boy is the worst band...ever.

I've never seen a band look so fake being "energetic"

routman21 (July 21, 2005)

FOB owns you, Chicago owns punk :-P kidding

Anonymous (July 21, 2005)

i bought the album and fell in love with it...its great shit

i love fob and the yankees...

but why are they talkin about baseball???

Colton (July 16, 2005)

Everyone who is an asshole about Fall Out Boy and/or pop punk in general are the dumbass kids who have an elitist nature but are in no way elitist.

Every faggot who says this album sucks obviously hasn't listened. Maybe the absense of pinch harmonics and a drum machine is what is wrong with this record. Oh wait, this isn't talentless ass-crap like Remembering Never, this is Fall Out Boy.

Everybody suck it.

Score for the album.

Anonymous (July 16, 2005)

its the best album ive ever heard

Anonymous (July 15, 2005)

i love fob :) i remember when they werent known at all and i saw them in boston :) best show ever, i don't know how anyone can say bad shit about them, they keep getting better and better. patrick has the best voice ever

fob rocks

aimee (July 12, 2005)

FOB is for me!! i love fall out boy my fav song is:"i slept with someone from fall out boy and all i got was this stupid song written about me" lol i really really like it !! i like pete the best and everyone knows why!!

Anonymous (July 9, 2005)

Fall Out Boy is like a candy bar. You know that what's inside is terrible for you and is made from the worst crap this world has to offer but every now and then you just have to have some. FOB = Guilty Pleasure.

Anonymous (July 9, 2005)

fall out boy is awesome. nothing else is needed to be said :)

Anonymous (July 8, 2005)

fall out boy has been the best band around since their first album, as much as i still like tttyg the best, im loving their new stuff and i think its great that their getting some more recognition too! i just hope people like their old music to cuz honorable mention is frigging aweosome!!!! and, i HAVE to agree with a comment already posted stating pete wentz is a lyrical genius, cause no bands lyrics match fob's lyrics. ooooo i love fob! absolutely amazing and unbeatable. wow. patrick has a very very sexeh voice!! : )

iluvfob (July 6, 2005)

yeah totally kick ass love these guys

i only want sympathy in the form of you crawling into be with me

iluvfob (June 29, 2005)

hey to everyone whos reading this comment! i love the album by Fall Out Boy "From Under the Cork Tree". its one of the best pop-punk/alternative albums I have heard in a while. I scored it a 10. yeah i know thats typical to give an album you love a ten considering its a personal opinion, but it truly is fantastic. all the songs are catchy and the lyrics are clever i think and Fall Out Boy is very rad band. I love them. Pete Wentz and Patrick Stump are awesome writers and musicians. I got to go, but dont miss Fall Out Boy on WARPED TOUR (yay!) and pick up "From Under the Cork Tree" and while you're at it, you might as well pick up "Take this to your Grave" and "Fall Out Boy's Night Out with Your Girl" you wont regret it!! they all rock hard core. Peace! Norita
( I'm sleeping my way out of this one/ with anyone who will lie down)

Anonymous (June 18, 2005)

Whatsername182 here. Fall Out Boy Is awesome I love this record. I love the song 'I Slept With Someone In Fall Out Boy And All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me'. LOVE this album I recomend it, its aweome.

jammanjt (June 18, 2005)

This is a great album, and I'm glad to see there are some people here who agree. Look, I understand that there is a contingent out there that is very worked up about emo/pop-punk/post punk music; you don't like it, we get it. My advise, calm down take a breath and appreciate the music that you listen to. With that said, Fallout boy isn't doing anything terribly original, but Under the Cork Tree is a great album with some of the better lyrics I have hear recently.

BlackLabelSkatez (June 17, 2005)

Holy Crap! I have no clue why people don't like Fall Out Boy. The rythm is perfect...It just makes you what to dance(And/or Headbang). The vocals get caught in your head because it goes so perfectly with the music. Everything is just like a perfectly fitting puzzle. Everything falls into place. It Rocks!

Anonymous (June 17, 2005)

I love this album, I have no regrets about buying it. Fall Out Boy rox my sox!

Anonymous (June 16, 2005)

Peter Wentz is a lyrical genius. This is some of the best stuff ever written...

"why dont you show me, the little bit of spine, youve been saving for his mattress, LOVE"

come on...

Anonymous (June 13, 2005)

I bought this album on a whim and i was actually disappointed when i first listened to it, nothing really caught my attention except track 8, and i was alittle aggrivated about it...yet for some reason its still in my player a week later, so they must be doing something right. It really grew on me and its fantastic for driving in my shitty car with no A/C on a 90 degree day. The lyric get stuck in your head so easily, and thats not a bad thing.

...now, Im a die-hard Yankees fan and i'll admit that they don't have it this year (makes me long for 1998 again). But i am mildly glad to see the Yanks, BoSox, and Mets waste almost $600 Million in combined budgets. Regardless, the Yanks will be good again soon and Boston will still have 1 World Series victory in 86 years. BRING BACK DON MATTINGLY!!!! ...FUCK KEVIN MILLAR!!!!

abusedcat (June 4, 2005)

I love this CD. simple as that.

Anonymous (June 4, 2005)

yes there is. several, actually.

Anonymous (June 3, 2005)

this cd is fricken awesome!! there isnt one bad song on it.

Anonymous (June 2, 2005)

I think that Fall Out Boy has good music.....I also think the lead singer has a great voice, and the band sounds awesome..so for you people putting it down at least have a logical reason.

Anonymous (May 31, 2005)

I like this album. Fall Out Boy is one of the only Pop/Punk outfits I appreciate.

Anonymous (May 30, 2005)

The review is shit, the band are amazing! I love number 8!

AnotherxBrick (May 29, 2005)

This record is amazing. The song style changes throughout the album but they still keep their style going. Song titles such as "Our Lawyers Made Us Change The Name Of This Song We Wouldn't Get Sued" and "Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends" have drawn me to this album without even listening to the songs before hand. I went out on a limb and bought this CD, it was well worth it.

Anonymous (May 28, 2005)

This CD was amazing... you don't think so then u have to be deaf

piratasmuertas (May 26, 2005)

Did someone call in the FallxOutxYouthxKrew?

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

FOB is an awesome band and this review is more or less just as bad as the person who wrote it

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

best cd ever
you guys dont know good music
this band is awesome

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

The last song is FUCKING good.

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

The last song is FUCKING good.

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

The last song is FUCKING good.

Anonymous (May 25, 2005)

The last song is FUCKING good.

Anonymous (May 24, 2005)

reviewer: how can you admit this is the same rehashed unoriginal pop punk and still give it three stars?

there is nothing new musically or lyrically here...when will it stop?

Anonymous (May 23, 2005)

This "no score" is for the review. Awful review. really awful.

Anonymous (May 23, 2005)

Baseball sucks. Shave your legs, pluck the hair around your navel, and join a swim team.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (May 23, 2005)

Me: Lifelong fan of the Sawx, grew up in VT.

You (person who ditched us): Jackass.

I would agree that the Red Sox are becoming the big-time conglomerate the Yankees are, but you can't seriously advise anyone to pull for Tampa Bay or Cleveland, can you?

Here's a guarantee: Neither team will make the playoffs in the next 8 years ... maybe Cleveland, MAYBE. But highly unlikely. Why? Cause of the structure of today's game. As soon as Carl Crawford, Scott Kazmir, Grady Sizemore, Jake Westbrook et al are ready to sign their big-time deals, their teams won't be able to pony up and they'll be off to real franchises. And that's the end of that.

On another note, I'm going to check out this album.

iheartadam (May 22, 2005)

10$ bills are baby blue in monopoly money right? I like baby blue.

I have to be a fan 4 lyfe now? So if Stalin, Hitler and Billy Graham were the starting outfielders I'd still have to be a Sox fan? Fuck no. I enjoy the players, who actually play the game, not just a local team I have to take up some storied rivalry for.

piratasmuertas (May 22, 2005)

$10 Monopoly says that guy is from Boston.

Anonymous (May 22, 2005)

oh so now that the curse is gone for the red sox you can move on as a fan? STUPID

Anonymous (May 22, 2005)

the most dissappointing album of 2005 so far. i loved the first album, and although i wasnt expecting tttyg part 2, i didnt expect this. The song names are shit, the vocals are slightly on the annoying side, and they have totally lost the EDGE they had imo.

iheartadam (May 21, 2005)

Well, the National league is for chumps. Don't be a chump. That being said I still enjoy how the Naxpos retained some of their talent like Wilkerson, picked up Nick Johnson from the Yanks, and also have the anchor of Ayala/Cordero in the pen.

I have family in Brooklyn and routinely accept tickets to Yanks games. I think it's a fun experience to see any MLB game in person and the Yanks are no different (I'm a fan when I'm there, merely for the experience).

Red Sox are blah. I grew up as a fan, relished in them winning, and have now moved on. Kevin Millar is unbearable as a person and a ballplayer. They are exactly like the Yankees. They've given away more farm talent than the Yankees in the past 10 years in my opinion.

Go with the Devil Rays and the Indians. Two teams with an amazing collection of young talent. and the Devil Rays do it with an owner who admits to only wanting to turn a profit with his 36 million dollar payroll joke.

Mets suck mets suck mets suck mets suck mets suck mets suck.

piratasmuertas (May 21, 2005)

Dear resident punknews.org baseball panel hiding out on the review of a worthless album on a huge budget,

I have been transplanted to New York and I hate the Yankee's (as any even-keeled person should).

Do I:
A. Go with the Mets even though the National League is unbearable?
B. Go with the Red Sox and get my ass fired from my lucrative job?
C. Say "fuck it all" and become the very first Washington Nationals fan?

Please Advise.

iheartadam (May 20, 2005)

He's 6'10". Let me repeat that. He's 6'10". He showed he had the right stuff so far with his sub 2.00 era, now all he has to do is be able to work on another pitch and avoid being booked by opposing scouts.

In any event, the order of who should be closer in KC based on talent alone is Sisco, Affeldt, McDongal, and then that horrible Ambioux shithead. He sucks. Sisco is solid. And 6'10".

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

ew.

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

to the guy who said Andy Sisco is part of the next wave of big stars, you are seriously mistaken.

1. he plays in KC, they are a tiny market
2. despite his success this year he's not ready for the majors. the royals would be wise to put him in a mop up role and develop him into a starter.
3. the royals would be making a serious mistake if he doesnt start 2006 in the minors (i know he has to stay up all year this year because of Rule 5).

next wave of big stars: Andy Marte, Felix Hernandez, Delmon Young

Anonymous (May 20, 2005)

"'tis a shame about bagwell. how he hit with so much power out of that ridiculous stance i'll never know. ever try to swing like that? it's ridiculous.

also, this is the crap i have to deal w/ living in philly:
"believe in us for a while. don't give up yet." -charlie manuel

right, charlie - we'll just hold off giving up until mid-july when we're mathematically eliminated."

I agree with it all! Remember the good old days when The Phillies actually rocked?...well at least a little....they got to the series, but of course blew it big time against the Blue Jays (Ya know, in the game that basically ended Mitch Williams career?)

The good old phillies had Lenny Dykstra, and John Kruk (the one nut wonder!) Mitch Williams who knocked himself over everytime he threw a fastball, and of course, Mickey Mourondini (how the fuck do you spell that last name?) and Dave Hollins. I loved baseball then...it was like watching the badnews bears or something.

Now its just painful, blah.

Oh, and i take credit for the comment below about the Nash MVP and the stereotypical asshole.

-!GreenVandal!

rkl (May 20, 2005)

this score is for being part of the mold

it's funny how many sports fanatics frequent these boards. it cements my impression that modern punk is the realm of jock homoeroticism.

awesome.

i played sports in hs. big deal. most of my teammates hated me, which just made my desire to do well even stronger. i dont think theres anything wrong with being competitive. if i were talking about quiz bowls or scinence fairs, would you say that modern punk is the realm of nerd homoeroticism? i doubt it.

i guess you hate pulley.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

'tis a shame about bagwell. how he hit with so much power out of that ridiculous stance i'll never know. ever try to swing like that? it's ridiculous.

also, this is the crap i have to deal w/ living in philly:
"believe in us for a while. don't give up yet." -charlie manuel

right, charlie - we'll just hold off giving up until mid-july when we're mathematically eliminated.

iheartadam (May 19, 2005)

By the way, let's all take a moment and give silent thanks and well wished to Jeff Bagwell (one of the best guys in MLB the past 15 years). Imagine if the BoSox had kept him. The curse would have ended much before 2004.

iheartadam (May 19, 2005)

Barmes will keep it up. The air up there helps give him power, he can drive doubles there, he plays hard. Brian Roberts sold his soul to the devil...or Balco. Nobody can explain his season. He's 5'9" and hit another HR today. He's on steroids. He's never had over 53 rbis now he has 33. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Lee's always been a solid guy though. Smart on the bases, good glove, and a big frame. He's like a dependable Adam Dunn.

Every year this happens with the quick starts for nobodies and bad starts for stars. Watch Keith Foulke. Every year he has trouble early. I guarentee his splits post-all star break will be a sub 2.00 ERA.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

to the people complaining about sports talk on this thread - shut up. can anything really be said about fall out boy that hasn't been said already? i didn't think so. you probably don't even get the simpsons reference. now, back to what really matters:

iheartadam - i know none of those guys (besides barmes) came completely out of nowhere, but clearly not all of them will keep this pace up (willis is halfway to his career high in wins, derek lee has never hit higher than .282, roberts had 4 HR in 600 ABs last year). i'm just curious to see who will and who won't. peter gammons says roberts will and barmes won't - i disagree.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

You can like sports and not be a jock you stupid fucking stereotype of an asshole. Im glad that you can make such grand statements and generalizations like that, really its people like YOU who keep the punk rock scene militant and ignorant just like it ought to be.

My team was the Phillies, thats why I dont watch baseball anymore. But hey, I can always root for the suns! No one deserved MVP more then Nash, Shaq be damned!

On a sidenote, fuck this album.

EMOHOLOCAUST (May 19, 2005)

Using a device called the Omega Beam, the planet Rann was transported across the Universe to hide it from its enemies. Upon its return however, a saboteur altered its destination, sending it to the star system of the warlike Thanagar. The resulting gravitational strain sent Thanagar hurtling into its sun, leading to planetary Armageddon. Now Thanagarís refugees are living on Rann, the very world that destroyed their own. As tensions run high, Rannís defender Adam Strange seeks allies for the conflict he knows is to come.

EMOHOLOCAUST (May 19, 2005)

Using a device called the Omega Beam, the planet Rann was transported across the Universe to hide it from its enemies. Upon its return however, a saboteur altered its destination, sending it to the star system of the warlike Thanagar. The resulting gravitational strain sent Thanagar hurtling into its sun, leading to planetary Armageddon. Now Thanagarís refugees are living on Rann, the very world that destroyed their own. As tensions run high, Rannís defender Adam Strange seeks allies for the conflict he knows is to come.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

In 94 after the strike they had simulated world series with all stats put into the computer and the yankees beat the expos in 5 games.

jamespastepunk (May 19, 2005)

We would've gone all the way in '94!

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda...

(Then again, that and Wait 'Till Next Year have been the motto of the Cubs for the last century.)

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

"We would've gone all the way in '94!"

The Expos would have beat the american league all-star team that year.....

iheartadam (May 19, 2005)

Jon Garland is such a fucking statistical pussy fart. It just kinda happens every now and then. If you've seen the guy pitch, even with his new "nasty" cutter, I've seen more natural movement on girls I've hit with GHB before.

Outside of Barmes none of those guys listed have been under the radar the past few years. Guys like Thames, Prince Fielder, Miklo Gonzalez, Jhonny Peralta and Andrew Sisco are the guys who will be the new wave of big stars.

TheOneTrueBill (May 19, 2005)

RKL is my new favorite poster because he also realizes that the White Sox are the supreme example of a baseball team.

We would've gone all the way in '94!

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

it's funny how many sports fanatics frequent these boards. it cements my impression that modern punk is the realm of jock homoeroticism.

awesome.

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

these guys have been selling loads of records at the store i work, they've been in the top 10 since the album came out. crazy since i always thought they were some shitty hardcore band. not really that interested in listening to the album.

joeg (May 19, 2005)

no ma'am!

Anonymous (May 19, 2005)

Hey, losers, guess what--THIS ISN'T MLB.COM!! Go find a damn baseball forum, for God's sake.........this is pitiful.

captaincrunch (May 18, 2005)

I'd hang on to the D-Train and Derek Lee

rkl (May 18, 2005)

derek lee has been consistently successful over his career. ive always liked him. a big first baseman who can run

im a chisox fan, but i can see garland blowing 7:last 10 starts. then again, this could be the year for him, hes never been particularly bad, just .500 with 4.00 ERA or so.

as for the guy from the corkies, he could keep it up too. didnt eric young hit 10 hrs one year playing half his games at coors?

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

bonderman is solid. i got him real late in my fantasy draft - one of my best picks. the real question is, out of these guys, who will keep it up all season?

clint barmes
derek lee
brian roberts
jon garland
dontrelle willis

captaincrunch (May 18, 2005)

iheartadam are you from the D? Dearborn/Redford here but I just took a job in Fort Wayne for a couple years.

Carlos Guillen, Nook Logan, Dmitri Young, Pudge, Bonderman and Inge definitely don't suck.

Higginson's contract is keeping them from getting the couple guys that will take them to the next level.

jamespastepunk (May 18, 2005)

Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay GAY!!!

Get this thru your heads, people! Just listen to "Grand Theft Autumn." Has there ever been a gayer song, with gayer lyrics than that?

Try the Gayrilla Biscuits entire discography.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay GAY!!!

Get this thru your heads, people! Just listen to "Grand Theft Autumn." Has there ever been a gayer song, with gayer lyrics than that?

swingline (May 18, 2005)

"the lead singer in this band sucks at singing plus he doesnt even write his own lyrics, thats frickin gay. plus their song titles are retarded. "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my cham friends" WTF? also the lead singer wheres trucker hats and genually looks like a faggot."

work on your english. please.

Archangel (May 18, 2005)

Good singer? Tim Kasher.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

I honestly have no idea how you can say the lead singer is bad... If this is bad, please give me an example of a good singer.

iheartadam (May 18, 2005)

Yeah so Nate Robertson has serious mental issues. He has decent stuff, a live arm, and tosses 7 solid shut down innings 1 out of every 4 starts. This means there are 3 occasions when his focus and/or body is nowhere to be found.

Hello Marcus Thames. Averaging 1 home run per 10 at bats in his young career. These guys are good, the rest of the Tigers suck.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

the lead singer in this band sucks at singing plus he doesnt even write his own lyrics, thats frickin gay. plus their song titles are retarded. "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my cham friends" WTF? also the lead singer wheres trucker hats and genually looks like a faggot.

captaincrunch (May 18, 2005)

This is a Fall Out Boy review so if there ever were an appropriate place to talk about baseball here, this is it.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

hate these guys all you want, but TRUST ME they are LIGHT YEARS better than good charlotte in all aspects, music, lyrics and vocals.

paul the fratboy who likes mest

soulbleed (May 18, 2005)

actually, to this reviewer dude, critics praised their last album. and this one too. it's mostly the 'elite hardcore kids' who dogged it. but ok.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

I've been avoiding this band for a long time but I finally listened to this album, I actually enjoyed it.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

"Fallout Boy-band"

Haha.....I like that.

Seriously, what is the deal with these guys? I mean, this crap gets praised like it's groundbreaking or something. It's generic, homo-erotic pop-punk, that's all it is. Nothing even remotely special. The vocalist is horrible and even worse live (yeah, I had to sit through them as an opening act one time).

Truly awful music, right up there with Good Charlotte in my mind. I can understand how somebody might cite Yellowcard or NFG as a guilty pleasure, but this is just plain bad.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

the cool kids like to call this cd FUCT get it?

paul the fratboy who likes mest

ps. no i'm not kidding.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

this is an album review stop talking about baseball

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

iheartadam,

John Rocker is certainly no Mariano Rivera (or at least the Mo of 98-01), BUT Rocker had more than just flashes of being legit, despite his ridiculously stupid stupid shit:

He aways averaged more than a strikeout per inning pitched, even when he was slumping.

He had five seasons with 4 or fewer blown saves.

He saved 38 games in 1999.

He had a season with a 2.13 ERA

So... make what you will of that.

Crookedsuperhero (May 18, 2005)

Ohhhhh, in middle school. Well, thats alright then.

Anonymous (May 18, 2005)

"wow paul, you're a moron."

i know , i know, thank you.

btw, Mest has the guy in it who was in a white power band when he was in middle school, he's openly admitted the error of his ways as a kid etc, not fall out boy.

paul
kappa delta rho

lou (May 18, 2005)

good review. infinite times better than the starting line review. i say this because they are both reviews of generally cliche, uninspiring, stereotypical pop-punk bands. but this is done right. there's no illusions (or dellusions?) about what this band is. hell, there's worse pop-punk bands out there to listen to.

iheartadam (May 17, 2005)

What? 7 year career, 3.50 era, under 100 saves. Since when does that make you "one hell of a pitcher"? This fuckwad was so dumb that he refused to learn another pitch when he lost his velocity. This is why he's perma-Independent league now.

Hope he enjoys the big contract he never landed.

CellarDoor (May 17, 2005)

Dearest John Rocker,
Karma is a motherfucker, isn't it ?

Score's for Ichiro.

SoupIsGoodFood (May 17, 2005)

God damn you guys. Fall Out Boy =/= pop punk. Try The Ramones or Teenage Bottlerocket or Weasel or something.

captaincrunch (May 17, 2005)

Dude, John Rocker is on this board, thats sweet. He was a hell of a pitcher before he went 'racist hick' on everyone

BrandonSideleau (May 17, 2005)

Well.....if these guys are white power....they are a bunch of pussies who can't be taken seriously. Most white power guys are, they'd pee their pants if they had to fight a black man. They're only tough when they have 10 of their friends with them, catch 'em alone and they run home to mommy and complain about how they're "so oppressed". Anyway, at 14 or 15 people can be really stupid, I know I was......I don't think they should be judged, they just need a good kick in the ass. Regardless, this band sucks and their lyrics waste my air.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

wow paul, you're a moron.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

that pete wentz guy needs a serious beating. seriously.

rkl (May 17, 2005)

friends dont let friends listen to fallout boy.
what use is it being someones friend if theyre going to make you listen to worthless crap all the time?

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

yes i know about tony lovato being in a white power group, but he was like 14 or 15 or some shit, i mean face it...some people are dumb at that age. its not like he's a hardened neo nazi or something.

although i will admit, i've heard mest are grade A assholes except for their drummer and they dont' mind taking advantage of girls on tour.

i just think they're songs are catchy....i'm so so sorry. continue throwing rocks, its the least i deserve.

paul

punkcorekid (May 17, 2005)

what isn't wrong with white power. i heard about that guy being in a white power group. they said he (or maybe members of that group) raped some girl that a few of my friends know. strange.

iheartadam (May 17, 2005)

I said this months ago, this album is nothing short of amazing. I called album of the year and I will not change my beliefs now. The quality of the music, lyrics and overall presentation is staggering.

Fall Out Boy proved to me with this release, why they are the best act out there now.

swingline (May 17, 2005)

i am masturbatyinmg while reading the lyrics sheet. iom typing with my left arm. i;ll get more in depth later.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

what the fuck is wrong with white power?

-john rocker

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

the singer from mest was in a white power band. no amount of pretending you are a wigger can change that. fuck that band

Crookedsuperhero (May 17, 2005)

Mest??? The rest can be forgiven, but seriously, fuck Mest.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

""Our Song Titles are so Long Cuz We Think We're so Frikkin' Clever But We're not, Our Record Company Told Us to Have Long Song Titles Cuz That Could Be our Gimmick""

as much as i love this cd...that is pretty funny

and hate all you want, they DO have a very solid drummer

and I love the lawrence arms, hot water music, bad religeon, rancid, etc. and love this cd. its just different tastes and as much as i love punk , i've alwasy had a very large soft spot for shitty pop punk bands. i also love allister, nfg and mest. and yellowcard. i realize most 'punk' fans consider those bands shit, but i just can't help it.

hey, i'm going to social D next friday, that redeems me a little right?

paul

boba_fett (May 17, 2005)

yo jesse... the song they played on conan was pretty tight. its not necessarily that they suck at playing the songs they've written, but that the songs they wrote suck. theres a difference.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

more like Fall Out Boy-Band

g-mouth (May 17, 2005)

"Our Song Titles are so Long Cuz We Think We're so Frikkin' Clever But We're not, Our Record Company Told Us to Have Long Song Titles Cuz That Could Be our Gimmick"

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

My two friends have been playing this lately in their cars, drives me insane.

Women...

- Kirby

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

i listen to spazz and refused
and i like this cd alot
its catchy and fun to sing along with
gives me something new to listen to then
all the punk/hardcore/thrash stuff

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I really took a flying leap off the cred cliff didn't I? not that I had much

paul

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

this is my guiltyest fucking pleasure ever. I LOVE this band and both of their cd's. This shit is great, all accross the board. One of the 10 best new school pop punk cd's (meaning only taking into account post-dude ranch pop punk). 'sugar we're going down' and 'nobody puts baby in the corner' are perfect. the album is so strong all the way through. can't say enough of these guys, good guys really.

paul

mjg (May 17, 2005)

this band is trash.

BrandonSideleau (May 17, 2005)

Return this shit to where ever you got it, do yourself a favor and go buy a Discharge record, or maybe a Husker Du record, or Black Flag, or whatever....anything but this shit (or the Starting Line).

Crookedsuperhero (May 17, 2005)

http://search.msn.co.uk/results.aspx?srch=105&FORM=AS5&q=fallout boyxyouthkrew

They did the monster mash....

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

not a vastly different album but the reason for that is purely the genre, pop-punk is rarely done well and FOB are easily one of the best (active) bands doing it today

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I saw these dudes live on FUSE. Holy cow....sucked!

Kenjamin (May 17, 2005)

To Jesse,
I also saw that performance. It seems like the band writes breakdown parts where the bass player and guitar player can easily spin around and chase their own tails like some fucking shit eating terrier.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

Boo

ubershep (May 17, 2005)

No.

Jesse (May 17, 2005)

My roommate has been playing this non-stop. I can safely say there is no band I hate more than this one. Caught them on Conan when my roommate was watching them. They weren't able to play their own stuff live without sounding like ass.

stevejonestherealbones (May 17, 2005)

remember that oxymoron list that the weezer reviewer had....might wanna add this bands website name to the list

- jonesy the a bonesy

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

tylerdurden8136 (May 17, 2005)

why didnt the leader of the falloutboyxyouthkrew review this cd?

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I love these punx

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

I look forward to the now-inevitable Anti-Flag/Fall Out Boy tour.

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

0.

-Chinatown

Anonymous (May 17, 2005)

read their song titles

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