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Silverstein: Discovering The WaterfrontDiscovering The Waterfront (2005)
Victory Records

Reviewer Rating: 2.5
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Contributed by: InaGreendaseBrian
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Silverstein's first full-length, When Broken Is Easily Fixed, didn't even necessarily suffer due to its massively clichéd nature, but more from a faulty, usually cringeworthy lyrical base and a vast array of dragging tempos that rarely, if ever, slipped into or past mid-pacing. The sophomore effort.
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Silverstein's first full-length, When Broken Is Easily Fixed, didn't even necessarily suffer due to its massively clich├ęd nature, but more from a faulty, usually cringeworthy lyrical base and a vast array of dragging tempos that rarely, if ever, slipped into or past mid-pacing. The sophomore effort here, Discovering The Waterfront, corrects the last of these attributes to a degree, as well as applying some more interesting guitar work and effects throughout, and providing some seriously competent melodies at plenty of the right times. However, it seems to act more as a profile of a band with potential to master the art of whatever fair-to-deathly rehashed genre they wish to, but instead are catering to a sing-scream trend long worn out and further drowning in an act of watering down.

The band's sound could be roughly described as 70% Yellowcard (see: vocals, healthy amount of catchy punk-pop vigor, digitized harmonizing, even violin work courtesy of YC string man himself Sean Mackin on one track), and 30% Grade (screams, efforts at interspersing hardcore moments). It's unfortunate they concentrate on the most derivative qualities of the former and a weak interpretation of the latter, as there are certainly a few moments that show the outfit proving they carry the chops for more aggressive, inspired times. For example, if not for all the singing and a key emotional segue, "Defend You" could be a rather powerful, mostly straightforward metal/hardcore track, but because of the aforementioned traits it suffers from disappointing pop ingredients forcing its way into the song.

Maybe what I'm trying to say is, Discovering The Waterfront is better than what I was expecting, but not that much better. Silverstein are a moderately talented bunch playing a decent version of a completely tired out style, skimping out on the creativity, lost on a real direction, and still reliant on relationship turmoil anthems worded to just that right level.

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XxSilversteinxX (May 11, 2010)

4/5

DrBino (March 16, 2009)

This band sucks the bags. Fuck them and their 14yo overweight needy female fans.

sk8ergrl (July 10, 2007)

Silverstein's type of music is confusing and cluttered, but since they have catchy choruses that make you want to look up their lyrics on Google, I like them.

Kaitlin (March 2, 2007)

Has anyone else seen the music video for Smile in your Sleep? I know I have and it flipping rocks! I think its pretty cool how they based it off of the game clue and that butler guy...Pretty creepy but cool at the same time! I love the album everyone should pick it up!!!!

jackrodd (January 9, 2007)

Smile In Your Sleep was amazing. i liked the video for it too.
Silverstein is the ownage.

Ministry4390 (December 2, 2006)

Hey reviewer guy, why does everyone working for this site only like shitty music?

katiekingisaLIAR (November 8, 2006)

ps : for all those dissing silverstein , lets see you do better idiots !! and paul and shane are HOTTTT! ! !

katiekingisaLIAR (November 8, 2006)

this was by far the best album i have bought in years.. i think the lyrics are amazing. i love each song , the music and the story behind it . unlike some cds where there are one or two good songs , each and every track is my favourite !! and silverstein is also amazing live

Anonymous (June 5, 2006)

If silverstein were so great,they wouldn't need their clueless emo kid fanbase to defend them so much.

Anonymous (May 25, 2006)

Hey, to all those people are dissing silverstein. You don't know what you are saying. They are a a great band. To those are saying that they suck balls or there gay. WEll, I have some good news. YOu are the one are sucking balls, and are gay. Don't be talking about them if you don't even know them. They are a great band. FUCK, whatever bands you like whoever is dissing silverstein! It's "Smashed into Pieces" for your information. Both of their albums are great!!!

Anonymous (May 25, 2006)

Hey, to all those people are dissing silverstein. You don't know what you are saying. They are a a great band. To those are saying that they suck balls or there gay. WEll, I have some good news. YOu are the one are sucking balls, and are gay. Don't be talking about them if you don't even know them. They are a great band. FUCK, whatever bands you like whoever is dissing silverstein! It's "Smashed into Pieces" for your information. Both of their albums are great!!!

Anonymous (May 13, 2006)

Silverstein all the way! They are awesome, Shane's lyrics are amazing! I love all the songs and the album cover.....sweeeeeet!!

____Oreo182

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

i loved this album because it is livley.

Anonymous (March 13, 2006)

the Cover art is fucking pathetic. fucking emo faggot crying.
waaaa'h stfu

Anonymous (March 1, 2006)

Silverstein "Discovering The Waterfront" (2/27/06)
Launches: Monday 2/27 at 7am!
url: http://www.mtvu.com/music/video_premiere/silverstein
*Submit questions to silverstein for backstage pass feature on the video premiere page.

Anonymous (January 21, 2006)

This cd is awesome. Best screamo cd i have ever heard. If you don't like screamo why are you here reading this wasting your time? Instead of bashing bands you dont like why dont you go review bands you do like.

Daps (November 26, 2005)

This was a really good album. I think that the best songs on it are your sword vs. my dagger, Fist wrapped in blood, and My Heroin.

Trauma16 (November 24, 2005)

I thought this cd was rather catchy, they're at least trying to stand out a bit more in this severely over saturated genre. Shane has a decent voice and the guitars have gotten better. Not as much heartbreak bitching, and more aggression for the most part, but they also slow it down for a song or two which works for them pretty well.
They put on a pretty solid show, but i think i'd like them a lot more if they weren't so scene/emo.

Anonymous (November 14, 2005)

wow id rather listen to mosh-metal.

Anonymous (October 28, 2005)

dude ur an idiot. silverstien is fucking sweet

Angel-Jin (September 20, 2005)

Smile in Your Sleep is lame. If you actually listen to the CD, you could figure that out. Fist Wrapped In Blood or Defend You are WAY better.

This IS an improvement over the last CD. Not any kind of giant leaps or bounds different, it's still the same original formula, just toyed with for the sake of something a tad different.

Anonymous (September 16, 2005)

silverstein really does suck balls, i think they should have done a way better job because it really fuckn blows!!!! Yeah so they did some ok music in the past like "Broken to pieces", but after that they turned in to mtv faggots big time not to be a bitch bu all these so called bands are getting so much airplay on tv its kinna annoying if you ask me and they should come up with something new

rainbow-trash (August 31, 2005)

Wow. Me and the crazytoledo actually agree on something.

Anonymous (August 31, 2005)

Suck

Archangel (August 29, 2005)

"victory blows, the best thing to ever happen is for them to sign the tossers. screw emo and melodic hardcore. isn't that an oxymoran? melodic hardcore...just like military intelligence..."

Be careful with that joke-- it's an antique!

Anonymous (August 28, 2005)

smile in your sleep ...what a gay song title...that sounds like shitty 80s metal....thats what they call hardcore at the moment..sorry

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

victory blows, the best thing to ever happen is for them to sign the tossers. screw emo and melodic hardcore. isn't that an oxymoran? melodic hardcore...just like military intelligence...

psychoos231 (August 27, 2005)

score

psychoos231 (August 27, 2005)

This score is for Mowgli from the Jungle Book. That stud is on the cover.

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

"John Doe also sucks..."

You should be shot for saying this. John Doe IS THE FUCKING MAN!!!!

(My score is for anything John Doe has been associated with)

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

It seems like priority should be given, at least to some extent, to albums that are coming out.

It's great when there are reviews for albums posted on the Tuesday they come out.

Which has me sadly looking for the review I posted for an album released two weeks ago that has sadly been overlooked or placed in the long waiting queue.

swingline (August 27, 2005)

gay.. or GAY?

rkl (August 27, 2005)

Silverstein - Discovering The Waterfront
Posted by Anonymous on 2005-08-26 08:59:21

silverstein sucks
j doe also sucks...you are a mtv moron
yeah, mtv LOVES x.

as far as waiting 5w to get a review published, suck it up.
ive been waiting since mid-june. i even sent iagd an email, but i cant get no love. :(

crazytoledo (August 27, 2005)

O yea, scores for the ETID disc, not Silverstein. /

crazytoledo (August 27, 2005)

Dude, the new Every Time I Die CD is awesome. I only heard a few songs from them before, but 'Gutter Phenemon' was awesome in every way possible.

Ironically, I gave the Bayside and Silverstein cds 2 1/2 stars as well.

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

Fantastic album with profound lyrics and complementary medodies. "My Heroine" and "Smile in your Sleep" are beautiful songs. Once this CD goes on your player, you won't be able to take it off. Other bands may imitate, but don't come near the overall effect that Silverstein creates with their inspired music.

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

I agree with the comment below me. Sheil Silverstein were the greatest books when I was a kid! This band tongues major toad assholes! By the way, Hawthorne Heights & Motion City Soundtrack fucking blow also!!!!

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

Score is for a half-assed, telegraphed soggy rock act ripping their name from a gifted poet and writer.

Oh, Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout...would not take the garbage out.

stevejonestherealbones (August 27, 2005)

does this work like this?

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com

Anonymous (August 27, 2005)

man review more punk bands here instead of your beloved mtvcore
silverstein fuckin sucks

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

I have nothing personal against any of you guys.....I'm just hoping that my work on reviewing records that I feel people should check out wont be ignored. And to the other guy, yes I am a staff writer and im just not signed in......my comp is fucked up and I'm too lazy right now to look up my password.

inagreendase (August 26, 2005)

Brandon: For the most part, I do go by submission date, and there are 12 staff reviews that were submitted earlier than your John Doe review.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

i made the previous post. upon second reading of that post i quoted, i realized you might be a staffer that isnt signed in? well if thats the case, then i am an ass and wrong. oh well.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

"well brian who made up the lame ass rule that what you get mailed get's first priority. If anything, it should go in-order of submission date....that would make the most sense. I thought punk sites weren't about giving priority to "certain releases". I know for a fact many reviews were turned in (by me & many other people) of both brand new and very old albums long before the majority of these reviews, and they have yet to (if ever) see the light of day. I think it's pretty lame that we are called "staff writers" yet I reviews have only a 50/50 chance of being shown. In my opinion, I think readers would be more interested in John Doe than Silverstein......just my opinion, but I'm willing to bet it's true."

priority should go to staff reviewers. not whatever the fanboys think is cool at the moment. dont be pissed that whatever review you wrote hasnt been posted yet. i know every tues and thurs rolls along and your just waiting for your week of fame on punknews.org, but your just gonna have to wait a little longer.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

anyone else think that every time i die sounds like it should be the next james bond movie?

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

well brian who made up the lame ass rule that what you get mailed get's first priority. If anything, it should go in-order of submission date....that would make the most sense. I thought punk sites weren't about giving priority to "certain releases". I know for a fact many reviews were turned in (by me & many other people) of both brand new and very old albums long before the majority of these reviews, and they have yet to (if ever) see the light of day. I think it's pretty lame that we are called "staff writers" yet I reviews have only a 50/50 chance of being shown. In my opinion, I think readers would be more interested in John Doe than Silverstein......just my opinion, but I'm willing to bet it's true.

inagreendase (August 26, 2005)

Maybe if "punk rock" was actually sent to us more often..

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

So the stuff that gets sent by mail (usually total crap like this) get's priority? I thought this site gave "punk rock" music priority? Hmmmmm.....guess you learn something new everyday.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

"to the guy two posts below who hasnt learned to properly cut and paste...what the hell are you talking about with your punk points and shit? what in my comment made you think i care about all that and when you were listening to rkl?

besides, saying you listened to them in high school doesnt mean shit. for all i know, that coulda been this afternoon..on your ipod mini ..on the way to summer school

- jones the bones

- stevejones8770@yahoo.com"

i got the cut & paste right.

and you know what doesn't mean shit? a war of words between 2 punks.

so i bow out. sorry. let's move on.

-that guy from 2 posts back or whatever."

Uhhhh,,,,,,I wrote my comment before I read the article and saw any of the comments entered. Just saying I live a couple blocks from ian, seriously,,,,,just a joke.

I think you spend toooooo much time on this site.

and for the record JONES THE BONES?!?!, that RKL comment was from someone else ASSWIPE!

"All up in the Kool Aid and don't even know the FLAVOR!!!"

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

There's another BIG review for an album released on August 16th that's waiting in the queue.

Big time.

Just you wait.

davebrave4 (August 26, 2005)

Oh, and as long as we're complaining about missing reviews, where's the gogol bordello review?

davebrave4 (August 26, 2005)

I really like the new Every Time I Die. I've always been a big fan of their music, and I think they're one of those bands that gets better with each new album. I didn't really get the impression that they were selling themselvers; on the contrary I think that more singing instead of screaming is the opposite of what the kids want, as you can see from the fact that Hawthorne Heights actually sells records. However, I watched the video, and putting Michael Madsen in a video is like getting on your knees and begging MTV to play it. And I'm seeing them live in a few months on my birthday, so I'll see if you're right about them live.

I won't even discuss Silverstein; they're not worth it.

Cheesetits (August 26, 2005)

If you haven't seen ETID live, I highly recommend it. I mean, I just saw them at Sounds of the Underground, and they were easily one of my favorites, Keith looked about to pass out he was screaming so hard. It's sad hearing these things about the new album though, but I'm going to have to pass my own judgement.

Archangel (August 26, 2005)

RondoMondo-- You've hit on most of my problems with the album, but overall I like it. My biggest problem is how Keith now sounds like every generic metalcore vocalist ever. What a disappointment.

As for the "songs about partying" thing, you're right, although that may have been a reaction to how much everyone loves Ebolarama as well as I Been Gone A Long Time. There's some track on the CD where he's yelling, "Fuck you, we're gonna party tonight," and all I can think is that we all know he's capable of more lyrically.

As for the guest vocalists, they're really unnecessary. As much as I love Daryl Palumbo, his appearance along with Gerard Way's doesn't do anything for the album.

This CD is a disappointment, but after Hot Damn! my expectations were almost unrealistically high. I'm still going to see them in September, though.

This score is for Gutter Phenomenon. Yeah, it's a disappointment, but it's still Every Time I Die. Hot Damn! was at least a 9, maybe a 10, and Last Night In Town is at least an 8.

inagreendase (August 26, 2005)

Hmmmmmm.....five weeks and still no John Doe review......I wonder if somebody has something personal against me.

Or maybe we just have 182 reviews in the queue, and stuff that was sent to me gets priority?

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

Honestly if you are a GRADE fan you have to apperciate these guys, for doing that sound and keeping it alive!!! I'd give my left nut to see Grade play live again!

kirbypuckett (August 26, 2005)

There's LIFETIME and KID DYNAMITE reviews to read.

Move along kids...

- Kirby

poopypants (August 26, 2005)

these guys are horrible, but you all know that. saosin, senses fail, silverstein...just start your band w/ an 's' and sound like this shit, surely some shitty label will pick u up and exploit you

paul

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

The kids in my town go apeshit for this bullshit, they love the shitty pretend hardcore, Silverstein fuck off please?

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

silverstein sucks
j doe also sucks...you are a mtv moron

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

Hmmmmmm.....five weeks and still no John Doe review......I wonder if somebody has something personal against me. I know not ALL of these are from longer ago.

RondoMondo (August 26, 2005)

I can't get into this band. The guy's voice sounds sort of dry, he's not a bad singer though. Band would be good if they would stop trying to put 3 or 4 songs into one.

Now on to important business:

Every Time I Die, I demand my $9.72 back. Gutter Phenomenon has to be one of the most half-assed efforts in the history of man kind. I've never seen a band become so lazy before. They virtually play the same exact riff throughout each and every song. And God only knows why you would go to a vocal coach and make your voice sound mediocre like 1,234,456 bands that exist today. I'm not mad that they changed their sound and got lighter, but the way they went about doing it is just dumbfounding. Atleast when Underoath went about trying to appeal to a certain demographic they actually put some sort of effort into it. Every Time I Die basically just went "Uh, I've Been Gone A Long Time is the song everyone loves. So let's right even more songs about partying and ride the whole drunken asshole wave. We've found our gimmick."

Seriously has to be the most disappointing cd I've bought this year. The first track, "Apocalypse Now and Then" is the only song on the cd that actually showed some promise. The song had a chorus (they have song structure now) which the vocal harmony was strong and memorable. Probably the best Every Time I Die clean vox part they've ever had. The riff isn't too bad and the song strays from the typical ETID breakdown (everyone knows how it sounds, I used to be a BIG fan of it). Then every track from their with the exception of "Bored Stiff" is just a painful reminder that some bands will do anything to sell themselves for money. Even if it means releasing a boring and passionless cd.

The schmuck from My Chemical Romance even sings on this cd. Will the misery never end?

My score is for the new ETID

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

wait, sensefield is real? well, shiver me timbers.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

don't get sense field confused with the rest of that crap.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

> i always get this band confused with senes fall and sensefield
>
> do all 3 of these bands exist or do i jut have bad hearing

well, it's senses fail and spitalfield, but yeah. i get spitalfield and silverstein confused all the time too.

the_other_scott (August 26, 2005)

i always get this band confused with senes fall and sensefield

do all 3 of these bands exist or do i jut have bad hearing

Archangel (August 26, 2005)

etwiels88: I did. I just want a place to talk about it, and to see what the general consensus of the CD is. Also, Silverstein is horrible.

inagreendase (August 26, 2005)

Actually, toledo wrote this too, but I was 2 paragraphs in when he submitted it, and I wasn't letting mine go to waste.

why is silverstein the lead review and not kid dynamite or lifetime?

Only because live reviews get interspersed evenly between the respective top and bottom halves of a reviews update. That's why you never saw a live review get the top spot when Scott would update.

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

brian beat you to it toledo.hah

fritobandito (August 26, 2005)

oh and PS: they always have incredibly cool artwork, even if they don't have the music to match it.

fritobandito (August 26, 2005)

not a fan of the band, that's for sure.

but everybody knows that the breakdown on the first track on their old album is fucking hot. nobody will deny this. haha...

etwiels88 (August 26, 2005)

Why don't you just buy the ETID album?

Anonymous (August 26, 2005)

why is silverstein the lead review and not kid dynamite or lifetime?

Archangel (August 26, 2005)

Okay, it's apparent to me now that you're just not posting an ETID review to bother me.

Dante3000 (August 26, 2005)

Silverstein:
"Making half-decent music, Half decently."
So is that about a quarter decent?
Anyhow, good review pretty much sums up the band in a nutshell.
-Dante

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