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Published on February 28th 2006
Hawthorne Heights must relinquish their crown of "potentially worst active band" with If Only You Were Lonely, as the Victory Records ambassador has moderately improved enough to nearly dive into a drowning pool of mediocrity like the uninspired bands they so haphazardly ape. It's a rather amazing thing how their sophomore effort and followup to the mind-bogglingly high-selling debut, The Silence in Black and White, has honest spots of musical creativity, but these are high points of a still awfully derivative, lyrically atrocious act relying solely on brainless hooks bordering boring filler.
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i love hawthorne heights! they are the best!! my favorite band. theyre lyrics mean a lot to me, i dont get how people dont like them!!! i love hawthorne heights! they are the best!! my favorite band. theyre lyrics mean a lot to me, i dont get how people dont like them!!! This is an amazing album............. amazingly gay that is. This album is funny... it really is. I dont honestly see how people can take it seriously. Victory Records will take any band... Their lyrics make me laugh. ohio is for faggots this band is HILARIOUS! omg i love hawthorne heights! fave band definetly ever since i heard saying sorry. now i have all their cd's and can't wait for the 2007 album!!! tiz gonna b sweet! and person down there who said they don't won't jt's hair...wutever...i luv jt!!!! he's my favorite out of the band, then casey...then so on...i named my fish jt woodruff....and i had a cat named casey after casey calvert lol. ok...i'll shutup now. anyone who hates hawthorne heights needs to DIE. and this album is definetly a 10! if i could go higher, it would b the highest number there is cuz i hav it and now every song people r so fucking stupid i mean we know the band rocks so you dont have to put they rock my socks. how fucking stupid and imature. I don't believe Hawthorne Heights has ever been classified as "punk." If you don't like Hawthorne Heights, you don't understand what you're missing. Fun, catchy, punk songs. people r so fucking stupid i mean we know the band rocks so you dont have to put they rock my socks. how fucking stupid and imature. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Dude! "This band was awesome live and their album is just as good. And if your going to post something dumb aout a band then at least have the balls to put your name on there. I love hawthorne heights so much i bought both parts, A and B, just so i could put the little booklets together : ) Now that is a true fan!" Great album but the whole 2 CD thing>? I have both but its kinda a bad way of showing how to get money. My old haircut was kind of like JTs. That was awhile ago and I dont really know how to feel about it. I mean, sure I dont want to be associated with looking like any member of Hawthorne Heights, but all the emo girls love him... Why are fans feeling special for owning both parts of the story by buying two copies of the CD? GREAT ALBUM! This band was awesome live and their album is just as good. And if your going to post something dumb aout a band then at least have the balls to put your name on there. I love hawthorne heights so much i bought both parts, A and B, just so i could put the little booklets together : ) Now that is a true fan! in my mind a big let down from the silence in black and white. this album lacks creativity and originality, and becomes redundant already after the first couple of songs. at least the silence... had a couple of tracks that stood out and could be listened to on repeat. i have to agree completely with this review though...i had my hopes up for this album, because i honestly thought the previous was a decent album with bright spots, but i was sadly mistaken. if they don't start bringing something new in, and also improve on their lyrics (which become more and more like a bad pop song where you can tell the lyrics before they even come), they're going to be a dead band soon. which, no doubt, would be a shame. quite possibly with the exception of Aiden, the worst band in the world. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mmmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyy eeeeeaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i like their new album but i still think the old one was better. JT IS HOT!! i like their new album but i still think the old one was better. JT IS HOT!! its people like the Cat fucking kid why so many people hate this band. It's so terrible. Obviously the kid who typed that is 14 years old and didn't even know who HH was until he saw there video on Fuse. I will say I like this band. They arn't my favorite band by any means but they arn't bad. if u dont like hawthorne hieghts u should go gett fucked by ure cat u fag cus hawthorne hieghtts rocks if u dont like hawthorne hieghts u should go gett fucked by ure cat u fag cus hawthorne hieghtts rocks if u dont like hawthorne hieghts u should go gett fucked by ure cat u fag cus hawthorne hieghtts rocks if u dont like hawthorne hieghts u should go gett fucked by ure cat u fag cus hawthorne hieghtts rocks if u dont like hawthorne hieghts u should go gett fucked by ure cat u fag cus hawthorne hieghtts rocks hey i thought this albulm was pretty good, it wasnt just the best ever but it was pretty cool. i dont understand why people even whine and complain about a band if they dont like them. if u dont like em mind your own damn bussiness and shut the hell up cuzz no one wants to hear you-seriously. hey i thought this albulm was pretty good, it wasnt just the best ever but it was pretty cool. i dont understand why people even whine and complain about a band if they dont like them. if u dont like em mind your own damn bussiness and shut the hell up cuzz no one wants to hear you-seriously. hey i thought this albulm was pretty good, it wasnt just the best ever but it was pretty cool. i dont understand why people even whine and complain about a band if they dont like them. if u dont like em mind your own damn bussiness and shut the hell up cuzz no one wants to hear you-seriously. thank you for finally making a suggestion on something you like rather than ripping what you don't like...Bane is pretty good. My favorite metal bands are Darkest Hour and Haste The Day. it seems to me that the people who didn't put a score are about even on liking it and hating it...not to mention me, i'd probably give it around a 3 and a half or so... hey fallen12 why dont you go cut your wrists and black your eyes HAHAHA! i give this albulm zero stars! it seems to me that the people who didn't put a score are about even on liking it and hating it...not to mention me, i'd probably give it around a 3 and a half or so... If you read you'd notice that a majority of the 'haters' dont put a score rating. No, I'm not saying this is the true meaning of music...i'm saying this stuff isn't terrible, but I can see how people think it is, just because it is getting so popular. The way I see it is that this band is getting quite a few good reviews from users on here...(even if they are 12), if you have to keep disagreeing with everyone mabye you just need to get the hell off of here Posted by fallen12 on 2006-03-22 22:32:38 score for the band id give you a 1 for the review. go suck a dick man. heh and after reading the posts that says hawthorne heigths are so popular but there music sucks and evryone listens to them... holy. dude!! what kinda crack you smoking??? hawthorne heights is the best band there is. hand down. so you just go and turn on your slipknot and have a drink. hawthorne heights kicks ass dude. Nice nice cd love it and the old cd is pretty rad 2 What you aint one of the emo drones that thinks this is the true meaning of music. what a fuckstick toledo. You steriotype people by the music they listen to...that is one of the shittiest things about people who also listen to rock music and people in general...you will probably counter that by saying something like "HH isn't rock music, its just shit" okay we get that you don't like them but you dont have to go make comments about masacists (sp). For your information I have never cut myself and never felt the least bit of need to. So whatever man Most good songs some r only ok That is BS man...they have some bad songs but they ROCK....and its "Wish we knew this from the start" look at the lyrics before you make fun of them >. And there's nothing to like about them.... Hawthrone Heights is a fabulous band. And there's nothing to hate about them.... Hawthorne Heights - If Only You Were Lonely Don't hate the band. i had this cd february 1st, smart ones like me , go the there site and get the songs, download them and then burn it ;) this band is a complete fucking joke. Look at his first score of "Silence" it was a 1 out of 10 and he basically said he wouldn't wipe his ass with the pages in this CD booklet. He admits that HH arn't at the bottom of the barrel anymore. This could have been a completely different band that made this CD and it could have gotten a 7 out of 10, but just because its Hawthorne Heights everyone has to rip on them. If he didn't give this CD a shitty score then he would have been laughed at by people like you on here...thats all i'm saying How is giving it a 3/10 saying it isn't bad? who gives a fuck about what sold more? This album isn't bad, Brian admitted it and you should too
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1525609/20060308/ne_yo.jhtml?he adlines=true OMG Hawthorne Heights is the best band out there and you can think whatever you want about them but I know I'm not the only one saying this, their new CD KICKS ASS and your just full of shit! Say whatever you want ; I LOVE this band, and I LOVE this cd ; plain and simple. Ne-Yo is a FUCKING FAG...Hawthorne Heights is the best band EvEr... This is the best Album I have heard in a while. Better than any other shit thats out right now. And if you say its not, then clean the shit out of your ears and listen again. i freaking love hawthorne heights and if you don't you are so full of monkey crap so go funk yourself you piece of shitaki i freaking love hawthorne heights and if you don't you are so full of monkey crap so go funk yourself you piece of shitaki i freaking love hawthorne heights and if you don't you are so full of monkey crap so go funk yourself you piece of shitaki o my freaking gosh man!!! ok first u probabally dont even listen to punk stuff and u think its weird so why would u write that bullshark? i love hawthorne heights and everyone else in the world that listens to punk likes them 2 so just get over yourself! this album is really good 2 me it reminds me of anberlin the video for the single is like 5 different directors ideas and they just shoved them all together. Not to mention the absolute deer in headlight acting they all do. Hawthorne Heights and Angels and Airwaves should do a tour. I can see it now, "The Holy Duelfecta of ROCK and Salvation" this is a little too heavy for my liking but for a straight up hardcore album it is pretty good. Give them a few more years and they will be sounding like simple plan in no time. Keep it up! and never stop reaching for the stars. Much better than Silence...This is Who We Are and Where Do I Stab Myself In the Ears are great songs. Omg Say what you will about Blink, but they are head and shoulders above anything this band could dream of producing. To suggest a comparison is an insult to human dignity. And I'm not even a huge Blink fan, though I admit I enjoy them. to fat amanda I think that last comment proves teenage girls and boys with no taste in music, are there sole listeners. OMGz!111 u guyz r assholes hawthorne heights r rly talented and theyre live show is incredible if u dont lyk em then u dont have to listen to em its as simple as that HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS IS THE GREATEST!!! WHY ARE YOU B**CHING ON THEM. They do have a little work to do on there live stuff but over all they fricken rock you homo beasts!!!! Why dont you compare them to blink who totally went and changed their style all together. Lets face it HAWTHORNE ROCKS omg u fags need to shut up becuz hawthorne heights r more punk rock then any of the shit you faggots listen 2. green day n blink arent punk just so u no so shut up FAGGOTS!!!!! you have to realize....people who buy the most popular music usually dont spend all of their time on the internet posting angry messages to strangers on forums. they are busy working out and fucking beautiful women Facinating story crazytoledo. So I was playing Halo 2 on Xbox Live at a friends house and I was playing Team Slayer and the on guy was quoting the Hawthorne Heights song 'Saying Sorry,' putting his mic up to the song so I had to hear it, and was saying its the #1 album. Led Zepplin's "lV" The Beatles "White Album" = 1/10 the quality of the Heights! I feel bad for Brian being subjected to listening to this ROCK music to write a review. So last night I went through and read all the lyrics to these songs....wow. You know the best kinds of laughs, the belly laughs that make your entire body go into convulsions because you're laughing so hard? Yeah, well I haven't had too many of those in awhile but the lyrics to these songs certainly provided me with a few. I feel bad for Brian being subjected to listening to this ROCK music to write a review. When it comes down to it, these guys just suck. why the hell do you post this nonsense, and why do i always click on it Haha that was supposed to be anonymous Hello everyone jamey jasta from hatebreed here!! apparently hambone heights think they are the new saviors of rock!? !?? That is bs, hatebreed will personally bonesaw these turd furgesons into a four figure leg lock submission!!! we rock out with our edge out, and mark my words, i will give a biceptual smackdown to any assbitch who dares try and steal our baton of rock!!!! they threw themselves into this living hell!! (a clever play on words of my favorite song from the hatebreed discografy) sXenster: it appears that you take all the corporate bullshit those stores feed you seriously. I worked in the music section of the equivilant to Best Buy for 4 years, and it's all shit. Pure shit. I didn't mind when people stole, as long as it wasn't around me, and even if it was, I'm not risking my life for some bullshit company. " I couldn't even understand how little 12 year old girls would enjoy it. I feel bad for anyone who owns a part of this band's discography." Kirby hasa girlfriend! The song "Saying Sorry" is actually refering to their failure to perpetuate ROCK music to the forefront. It turns out Neo was victorious after all in his struggle to save Zion. I was flipping through the On Demand videos the other day over my girlfriend's house and I noticed this band had one on there. I had never listened to the band and figured I would give it a shot... On the comment about the screaming...I heard the first record, and to me, it sounds like the screaming was an afterthought. Like..oh shit, no one likes pop punk anymore, better through some unintelligble screams in there...and throw a bunch of studio effects on it too. From what i understand, the battle is not over until the end of the week. Anyone want to see The Loved Ones’ record release show at CBGB’s tonight? Victory used to be good what the hell happened? I had victory style 1-4 and it was all crazy hardcore. So did this (horrible) record save ROCK music?? lol how french of you no u wise ass fag (what a shit insult) oh yes lets listen to simple plan(but secretly get bummed up the ass)D I accept defeat on mispelling grammar. the wies is fag he would not no a good band if it hit him in teh ballz. listen to real bands like simple plan and mest. well this is certainly much better than hip-hop ganster shit that somehow makes it to the top of the charts because they drug everyone up first so in conclusion thewise, you are a complete douchebag....you tried to act all high and mighty telling someone to use proper grammar and then misspelled the fucking word "grammar"...so basically, not only are you a douchebag, but youre a stupid douchebag yeah post his phone number im seriously gonna call that douche bag up....i wont threaten him or anything but ill damn sure put him in his place Hello every1! It sounds like you need to call him. Repeatedly. haha you can't even spell grammar, why should we listen to you? Oh, and learn to use some fucking grammer. Unlike that little shit a few comments down, I have the guts to at least post with an account. So I sent Tony an e-mail telling him he's giving Chicago a bad name. He replies with his phone number, telling me to call him. I think it's pretty fucking funny. tub of douche > tony brummel Wow. "Please remind me how Hawthorne Heights are destroying underground music." "which we knew this from the start" hey the wise i bet your relly a litttle emo fag you probebly dont even know who real band are are ive been listening to punk forever and hawthorn are fags he's right you know. san dimas high school football does in fact rule. however, hawthorne heights does not. This band is good but they could be better, a little less emo guys! Victory in spite of all terror So, I work at a CD store, the biggest chain in the US 'cause I'm a massive sellout. This was posted on the Velvet Rope. hey lets listen to nickelback, they also rock wait, this band didn't revive ROCK did they? And by that i mean, they didn't beat that one group/Guy did they? just cos it got guitars its doesnt mean its rock or even punk, ha ha hawthorne heights they suck ass, ´holy shit Tesco Vee can you beat this Emo Kids up please I'd rather be raped by an elephant than listen to this piece of shit. I have no idea what this band or a lot of the other bands The Kids listen to these days and I keep looking at the Take Action sampler. Its only $6... For fans of this kinda stuff, is it a good sampler? You guys are crazy. This has got to be one of the best albums of the year, possibly of the last 5 years. Emotional, intricate, genre-bending. This the the soundtrack to 2006. Rock music has returned. Oh, and also, either get an account or post under your user name. Please remind me how Hawthorne Heights are destroying underground music. hahahaha the comment below me made me burst out laughing I am more than ready to personally hand HH the impenetrable torch of ROCK music to carry on its legacy. sup, just wanted to post my score again in case you guys forgot i saw comeback kid in portland a couple nights ago and they played like a 30 minute warped tour style set, super super short, that shit was kinda dissapointing... Seriously? its not that bad of an album? ive had it for a while (ADVANCE COPY WOOOO!) and it def isnt great, but its not as fucking horrible as you are making it out to be. Out here in the cornfields of the midwest, it's either post relentlessly on the internet or do drugs, and I'm not a big fan of drugs. I don't get the big deal over hating this band. Yes, their music is pretty damn boring, and the most they ever seem to accomplish is a marginally catchy hook here or there. Yes a lot of dumb kids like them, a lot apparently. Who cares? A lot of breath seems to be wasted on this band. You're getting too worked up over the thought of someone getting worked up that your getting worked up over people getting worked up. Some of you people are bigger drama queens than this band (apparently) is. they're not destroying the 'scene' or ruining 'music'. Thats impossible. There are still many great punk bands making real music to listen to. I've never even listened to a whole song by these guys and I don't have to. Neither do any of you. A simple 'this band sucks' or something along those lines will do. No need to get worked up over it. Chinatown, whoah someone gave props to benton falls! Ethel Meserve is one of my favorite emo bands of all time F ___! Is there a reason why this review is on top? Victory obviously isn't paying you to review the album, so there's no need to glorify it like this. frick u this an amazing song/album why dnt u go bak to listening to ur barbies hip-hop wigger shit Great first sentence on this review. Well done. Where did anyone say they dislike this band because other people like them. I'm pretty sure we're disliking them for all the reasons you mentioned, other than that one. i heard that the hawthorne heights drummer is so bad that the producer of their first album had to go in and record some of the stuff himself and then later took his name off the album because even he hated it. jesus. if you want to listen to a flawless emo performance, listen to benton falls' "guilt beats hate" I played these guys on my radio show last week as a joke and I lost 8 listeners in 60 seconds (i'm on internet radio, so we can see how many people were listening). That event proves that there still is hope. I am surprise the Hawthorne Heights mafia hasn't bashed on you guys and started crying about it yet. Fucking Emo bitches..... "I know it's "cool" to sit your Mom's basement and type bad things about new bands" can someone post this duff review somewhere else? I missed it when it first went up and now I feel like I've missed out on something very important. You guys should seriously check out their message/myspace-ish site. It is the biggest collection of douche bags in one place in the history of music. Um no. Fuck this band. Wahhhh we said mean things wahhhh That's just the point, a band espcially in the punk community is more than just music! so stop telling people they're immature for standing up to bands like HH who are actually destroying underground music. Maybe to you it's just music and that's fine but please shut the fuck up when people who actually care about this scene stand up for it. I won't score it yet, as I have yet to hear it, but I'm sure most of the people on this board have done so. Oh, and worry not, I'm writing Bigwig for Tuesday unless someone submits something well-written enough. in the words of dan yemin... Hawthorne Heights is music for retarded fags I would have reviewed Bigwig if my copy had turned up at my front door yet. Oh, you said well written. I'm mad stoked for that new Ne-Yo record to drop yo their lyrics made me laugh like wow.. i want to kick every member of this band in the throat. i love how tony@victory hasnt posted here under his screenname in forever....i guess he knows what a giant douchebag he is. What happened to Christie front drive, Boys life, Penfold and the like??? When emo was called badly recorded indie rock??? i love how tony@victory hasnt posted here under his screenname in forever....i guess he knows what a giant douchebag he is. Some of the most god-awful music known to man. Not many sounds make me want to extinguish lit cigarettes inside my ears...this did. When is this fucking trend going to go the way of the boy bands??? If you kids want to listen to good music, check out Ceremony. They're from viirginia and play some of the the best rock i've heard. fuckin jesus and mary chain on drum machine crack. do it. Oh, and worry not, I'm writing Bigwig for Tuesday unless someone submits something well-written enough. Thanks for reviewing this album guys...I'm gonna go swallow a shotgun shell. a simile is a metaphor. I've never ever in my life heard any song by this band, nor have I ever seen a picture of them. Drown me in the sweet waters of your envy. Seriously good call on the simile/metaphor thing, I wrote this from scratch this morning in like 20 minutes and was bound to fuck something up. was i too drunk to hear any boos for tlo/tla. and the nofx set was amazing and i havent listened to them in years. maybe i was just drunk I was at The Nation. The Lawrence Arms set was amazing. So was The Loved Ones. NoFX was a letdown, but their fans were the real irritation. i totally agree with every aspect of this based on what ive heard from their singles but i gotta ask...if u hate all these aspects of this band then why would u even bother listening to their album? Score is for Husker Du's "I Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely." Clearly they were a big influence on Hawthorne Heights as they gave them the courage to be an openly gay punk band. I waiting for the new Streetlight Manifesto CD yea we got "necrotism" (the RAB tracK) as well They played Quincetuple? FUCK YOU!!!! yo so the lawrence arms/nofx show last night at nation anyone?? any show were you can see 100 resolutions, quencituple your money, and the decline in its entirety is actually worth the twenty bucks haha....im not saying this is a good record, but jesus christ i am sick of fucking pencil pushing nerds who write these reviews....if this music is so easy to do and elementary - why isnt everyone famous? its really easy to be a hater; step out from behind your review and go start a band smart ass...... this is my new 'get it on' cd i totally agree with every aspect of this based on what ive heard from their singles but i gotta ask...if u hate all these aspects of this band then why would u even bother listening to their album? Some of the guitar work actually aint bad. The singer is so pro tooled and horrible that he kills any momentum that the guitars almost build. INcredibly generic song structure. Atrocious lyrics. Is that a fucking moog in their single? Oh acoustic guitars AND screaming in ONE song? That shits insane for realz. i just wanted to post my score again :) Brian spent time writing a review for this album. Post reviews for a radio-friendly modern ROCK "emo" album, because they're a "band" and have played Warped Tour and are on a once relevant label, but what about a solo artist who is a young woman? Sexism. We all know Duff ROCKS way harder. And her music is explicitly about deconstructing the formulaic boudaries that exist within Brian's mind when he posts reviews of bands like Hawthorne Heights, instead (as well as the boundaries that limit this type of horrible horrible music). Jesus christ , post a Bigwig review already. What are you waiting for? I read an interview with them 3 months ago where they said that the new stuff "had breakdowns". There's like 3-4 of them on this cd and they are hilarious, they're even weeker than the one in that OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW....WITH MYY RAAADIIIOO song. Overall, it's aids pop, so i'm gonna give it a 4 because we won the fucking hockey, and i hate hockey. This band go to their own merch table a few times per tour... BUY THEIR CD!. It's 100% ROCK! How are those fish in that barrel doing? Seriously, good review though. I just found out that I used to date a girl who's waaaaay into this band now. That's more than a little creepy. I hate this band more than Dr. Phil. I still don't see how its humanly possible to make a statement like "Hawthorne Heights are the worst band ever housed on Victory" when the same label released two records by Snow Dogs. kudos to you my friend, and kudos again. what a fucking bullshit, joke of a band. |
