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I don't care what anyone says, I love Bad Religion. They honestly have changed my life. Ever since I first heard "Infected" in 5th grade I have been hooked. The harmonies, guitar solos, and lyrics (when I was studying for my GRE test, I knew the definitions of five or six vocabulary words like sagac.
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I don't care what anyone says, I love Bad Religion. They honestly have changed my life. Ever since I first heard "Infected" in 5th grade I have been hooked. The harmonies, guitar solos, and lyrics (when I was studying for my GRE test, I knew the definitions of five or six vocabulary words like sagacious and misanthropic simply because I had listened to Bad Religion and I worship Greg Graffin) have always made them stand out above any other modern day punk band in my mind. During their 20-plus-year career, Bad Religion have created a sound and style all their own, which has influenced almost any punk band that you listen to today. I have seen them live 7 times including November 21st, 2004, live at the Hollywood Palladium, the second night taped for their Bad Religion: Live at the Palladium DVD. I have to say that night at the Palladium was the worst time I had seen Bad Religion. The band played flawlessly, but there was a huge barricade between the crowd and the band, and a huge barricade down the middle of the huge venue for a camera on a crane, plus insanely tight security. That night the band and crowd gave it their all, but to me the show felt like what it was: staged for a DVD. Nevertheless, I was out on March 17th buying my copy of Live at the Palladium and seeing how the show I went to turned out on video.

The set list from the two nights that Bad Religion performed spans their entire catalogue, from early hits like "Along the Way" off of their 80-85 release up to "God's Love" from their most recent, The Empire Strikes First. Included is a very touching and beautiful live solo piano version of "Cease" performed by Graffin. All in all, there are 31 of Bad Religion's songs on here, so there is a little something for everyone over the 96 minutes of music. The 5.1 surround sound quality is great; you hear everything, from all the mind-blowing fills that drummer Brooks Wackerman does to the incredibly well-pulled off harmonies from all the members of the band (yes, Jay Bentley and Mr. Brett actually sing quite well). The band is full of energy as they run all over the stage, with Graffin pointing, Jay screaming like a madman, and Greg Hetson doing his trademark leap. In one option on the DVD you can watch the concert footage, as well as interviews with all of the band members spliced in between every two or three songs. For me, these interviews were the highlight of the DVD. The questions asked are rather generic (i.e. "When did the band start?," "Where did the logo come from?"), but the band members elaborate on all of the topics, and it's a real treat for a fan to hear about the band's first show, the division between the punks in Hollywood and the punks in the Valley and all of the personal anecdotes. You also get a real appreciation for all the personalities within the band. If you so choose, you can watch these interviews separate from the concert and vice versa, which is a nice option.

The DVD also includes six music videos and two TV appearances of the band from 1980 and 1982. The performances from these television appearances really make you appreciate how far the band has come. In the `80, clip the band looks like what it was: a bunch of teenage punks pounding through their 3-song set with Graffin doing much more screaming than singing and Jay Bentley standing incredibly stoic (compared to his now lively stage performance). They remind me of any number of bands that I have seen opening at Gilman, but you can tell that there is just a little bit more to them. The `82 clip offers a version of "We're Only Gonna Die" and the band coming a lot more into their own, and it is fun to compare `82 to the live 2004 version of the song. The other extras include some behind the scenes stuff and a photo gallery. While these extras are very cool, and the sound quality and set list are great, I have some problems with the camera work and editing on the DVD.

While the show was shot with 5 cameras, there is a constant cutting back and forth between all of the cameras that really gives a choppy feeling to the show. One second you're behind the drum riser, the next, looking at Brian Baker's hand. Also, it is easy to tell when the song contains footage from both nights. For example, during several songs Mr. Brett has his glasses on, and then in the next shot, they are off. To me, this editing somehow ruins the sincerity of the live show. I don't want to see a collage of Bad Religion performing "Modern Man;" I want to see it in one take, with all of the mistakes and grit that go into a live performance. Also, much of the stage banter was cut out too, with the exception of Graffin introducing songs. I know for a fact that when I went, Bentley mocked some kid at length (including a re-enactment) who tried to stage dive with a backpack on and misjudged the jump and as a result, hit the stage when he landed and rolled off, yet I couldn't find it on the DVD. To some of you, this may not seem like a big deal, but to me, missing little episodes like that take some of the personality out of the DVD footage. To me, it makes the DVD less like capturing BR in a concert, but rather a polished music DVD.

I think Live at the Palladium is worth owning if you're a Bad Religion fan, have never been able to seen the band play live, or love punk music. The picture is clear, the sound is perfect, but like I have said, I have some problems with the way the DVD was edited (I think some of the "Show Must Go Off!" Series are a little better done in that category). With that slight flaw though, for me I think that the DVD does the Bad Religion justice. Live at the Palladium defines Bad Religion's legacy as not merely being another punk rock band but rather, a band that has been able to change the face of music and people's view of the world in ways which almost no other bands have been able to achieve.

 

 
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Albert_Belle (July 22, 2007)

My only complaint is with the guitars not being loud enough. Other than that, it's a good dvd. If you're a BR fan, pick it up.

jimmyjjackamoose (June 10, 2007)

cause they like to trade off solos and they have tight rythmn.

Anonymous (February 13, 2007)

Why in the hell does a punk band need three guitarists?

Anonymous (April 20, 2006)

to the guy who complains about the stereo and mono (by the way, no idea what you mean by that) mixing, the dvd has no stereo track, its your dvd player who automatically is downmixing the 5.1 track. nevertheless i dont understand how they didnt add an additional stereo track, like many live dvds have, cause it would result in a better sound for everybody. i am listening to it with my 5.1 receiver, and i think the sound is fine, well the guitars could be a little louder and harder.

the dvd has some minor flaws:
-no "real" stereo track
-no international subtitles (only english, would have been very easy to implement that, and they know this dvd is gonna sell well all over the world)
-some unsynchronized scenes thanks to the mixing of the two days, which i thought could have been easily avoided. they had so many cams, do they really need to mix scenes of different days during songs? brett wearing glasses in one shot, and then no glasses, and then glasses again is pretty dumb..

besides that, still a great quality dvd

Anonymous (March 23, 2006)

Great picture, insightful commentary, good history, horrible sound. It doesn't even sound like they have three guitarists.

Anonymous (March 22, 2006)

"the goal of everything is to make money"

Well I know I sure as hell wouldn't go to work if they weren't paying me for my time. Although I suppose if the goal of society as a whole wasn't to make money I could spend all my time playing in my band. I'm certaintly not making any money doing THAT.

Phantom_Maggot (March 21, 2006)

Punk started in reaction to corporate labels and bloated arena rock. Punk was a way for kids who couldn't play like Emerson, Lake and Palmer to be able to start something of their own. Isn't that anti-corporate?

feeeding5000 (March 20, 2006)

The '77 bands that made it really big are still "un-sell-able" because:
1) That was before the punk rock anti-corporate culture was established. They were just fast rock n' roll bands. And...
2)Most of those bands (except the Clash and the Damned, who became more pop) were popular for a year or two before breaking up or fading into obscurity.

Oh, FuckYouOiOiOi, the goal of everything is to make money...which is not good. The fact that a genuine artistic endeavor (like a TV show) has to be exploited is wrong. And, genuine artistic minds (advertisers) are exploiting THEMSELVES for profit.

Anonymous (March 20, 2006)

Tell you the truth, I enjoyed the DVD....however the stereo mix is pretty brutal. I haven't listened to the 5.1 surround mix yet, but the stereo and mono mixes are pretty bad. They didn't mic Hetson's cabinet, which is quite comically noticable (if you don't believe me, find the section of the DVD where Graffin introduces Hetson, and Hetson begins one of the songs [I forget which one]---but you can hear that his guitar isn't miced and is being picked up by some of the other stage mics, which sounds...weird).

Also, the drums are mixed really poorly in the stero mix...so Wackerman's fills (which like you said are admittedly quite good) are pushed so far back in the mix they're essentially lost.

Now, like I said, some of this stuff might have been fixed in the 5.1 mix, but the stereo mix was kinda strange. BUT, all things considered, we're talking about Bad Religion, not the Beatles, so if everything were mixed perfectly I'd probably be equally disappointed.

But, nonetheless, the (non- 5.1) sound quality was kind of a let down.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 20, 2006)

and the whole 'pretentious' debate is so fucking stupid... Using a word like 'pretentious' is pretentious in itself. so you're all pretentious hypocrite douchebags.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 20, 2006)

once again, those sellout bands have very little to do with the punk scene. i love green day and i will always find their albums fun to listen to, but I know they are not directly involved with the modern punk scene in any way.

I saw them at an arena show during their last tour and, given the crowd and atmosphere (i was on the top row where everyone was sitting in seats like they were watching a fucking opera), I can say without exaggerating that, aside from the music, it was NOT a punk show. And Green Day is the best major label band.

So, don't get bummed out when 'bands' use a shitty boring strand of punk rock to make money (I'm not saying Green Day is doing this, just those shitty Yellowcard, simple plan, shit). That has nothing to do with the punk scene.

...And if you're pissed off when tv shows have commercials you're a fucking moron. if it weren't for commercials, those shows wouldn't make any money for the network (heres a shocking fact: the goal of networks aren't to entertain you, its to make money!). I hate commercials because they're so fucking condescending, just watch one and you'll see what I mean. But, I have a DVR so I just fastforward through commercials.

Scruffy (March 20, 2006)

"most pretentious lyrics ever?"

Or "most true lyrics ever?" It's not pretentious to point out that this country doesn't like smart people. Heck, you just proved it.

Also, that's one of the worst Bad Religion songs anyway.

RiseAgainstSSCC (March 20, 2006)

BR can do know wrong

Anonymous (March 20, 2006)

look around the country, an abundance you'll find
of mediocre minds
sift through the fodder as sane justice declines
because of mediocre minds
shrouded under cover, the most flamboyant guise
hides a mediocre mind
you got yours but you can never bend mine
with your mediocre minds

when they cry foul you had better watch out
because you never know which aptitude they're griping about
don't act too smart for their stenoscopic ways
you'll be discarded away

reason's not to be what the privileged define
with their mediocre minds
so many sighted people are so helplessly blind
from their mediocre minds

if you want attention then you'll be asked to bend
but the surest insurrection is enlightenment
then you can live outside inharmoniously
without friends and enemy

they wanna keep me locked away
cuz I've an overactive brain

leaders, presidents and the nightly news guys
cater to mediocre minds
reason's not to be what the privileged define
with their mediocre minds
you got yours but you can never bend mine
with your mediocre minds
the only natural thing that I really despise
are the mediocre minds
mediocre minds! (2x)

most pretentious lyrics ever?

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

I really hope that this new band Bad Religion gets some mainstreem success like that band Green Day has gotten in the past year. I think that they're debut American Idiot kicked ass. I've had it in the CD player of my moms volvo since last october. So anyone whos been hating on these rookies BR just let them keep at it and try to get a fan base.

-Jim
Palo Alto, Ca

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

teh whole warped tour crowd has seemed to change this band for the worse. They're last few releases have really sucked. They're live shows are lacking intensity and energy. What happened to Bad Religion being Punk. either tehy stop making music or get of VH1.

iconoclast (March 19, 2006)

The Grey Race is better than Stranger Than FIction. Discuss.

both albums are amazing. i dont think ones better than the other really. and what do you mean the grey race is better cuz the song stranger than fiction? that song is soo good. thats a br classic. yep.

Cos (March 19, 2006)

The Grey Race is better than Stranger Than FIction. Discuss.

--Cos
(mostly because TGR doesn't have the song "Stranger Than Fiction" on it)

Phantom_Maggot (March 19, 2006)

Since when has punks history shown it to be "un-sell-able"? The media coined the term punk rock and the Sex Pistols, Clash, and Buzzcocks were huge.

feeeding5000 (March 19, 2006)

FuckYouOiOiOi, how old are you, exactly? Do you expect me to believe that you're really sooo much older, wiser, and more punk than I am? Listen: I'm not punk. At all. Okay? I just think exploiting anything for profit is not cool. The fact that TV shows have commercials in them REALLY bothers me. Same w/ preview before movies, or corporate sponsorships for community theaters, etc. Punk rock is something that has a history of being "un-sell-able", but obviously that's not true anymore. And I really do like Bad Religion...as well as other poppy or major-label stuff. Elvis Costello, Toots & the Maytals, New Pornographers, Screeching Weasel, Bauhaus, Hank Williams, Woody/Arlo Guthrie....(Still not bragging)

nikko (March 19, 2006)

coolllll thats what i heard

sickboi (March 19, 2006)

I don't know if anyone mentioned it already, but Tim from Rise Against does the rap on "Let them eat war"....

givemeamuseumandillfillit (March 19, 2006)

Bad religion was superb the two times i saw them in 04.
Last year they were terrible both times. So damn boring, even though it was a way better setlist.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 19, 2006)

thank you feeding5000 for proving that you just got into punk a year ago and have never been to a diy show (or any show for that matter). good charlotte and simple plan are not part of the punk scene, and therefore, cannot destroy it. so to blame an amazing band thats been around for over 25 years and defined the modern punk sound for the shit you see on mtv is so stupid.

i can now never take any of your reviews seriously.

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

"I like Bad Religion ALOT, they introduced me to Punk Rock...my only problem now is that I can't get into the music like I used to. It's no fault of them.....just many of their "Fans". Their shows are so full of morons and knuckleheads nowadays that the real intensity of it is lost. It's hard to get into music when you're surrounded by a bunch of knuckleheads who only know the band from playing Tony Hawk or same lame shit."

it's the warped tour contingent. just try to start dancing in the pit and you'll get leveled by jocks and assholes who are there to like totally like mosh to sorrow and los angeles is burning bro!

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

I like Bad Religion ALOT, they introduced me to Punk Rock...my only problem now is that I can't get into the music like I used to. It's no fault of them.....just many of their "Fans". Their shows are so full of morons and knuckleheads nowadays that the real intensity of it is lost. It's hard to get into music when you're surrounded by a bunch of knuckleheads who only know the band from playing Tony Hawk or same lame shit.

Godfather (March 19, 2006)

and the award for "Most Overused Word @ the Org" goes to.....

PRETENTIOUS!

(applause)

sorry SELLOUTS, maybe next year

CaveatMalefactor (March 19, 2006)

Having an IQ above 60 is pretentious.

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

damn, if that was Mr Brett posting below, Rock on BUDDY!
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Scruffy (March 19, 2006)

No Substance is awesome, Glad to see it getting some love.

iconoclast (March 19, 2006)

to add to my last comment, it would have been cool for them to represent each album with at least one song. like what about "dont sell me short" or "you've got a chance" from new america. all in all great dvd though.

iconoclast (March 19, 2006)

i agree,no substance is very underrated. i too was dissapointed that no songs from it were on the dvd. they could have played "in so many ways" at the very least.

fallingupwards84 (March 19, 2006)

i was somewhat disappointed that there was nothing from No Substance on here.
that's one of my favorite BR albums.. i think it is very underrated

iconoclast (March 19, 2006)

suffer...dissapointing??

what is wrong with you??????????

Anonymous (March 19, 2006)

"I bought 'Suffer' about three years ago and every song sounds like the 'King Of The Hill' theme tune with "whoa"s in. Disappointing."

This comment made me laugh my ass off, not just because it's hilarious, but also not... really true at all, but it was funny.

iconoclast (March 18, 2006)

bad religion is anything but pretentious, fuckin douche. its not their fault you cant understand what they are expressing.

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

you know thesaurus core is a term that was coined in a bad religion press release years ago (because besides themselves, their was no such genre) so to use it as an insult against them is pretty silly, and confusing.

and monosyllabic is not a one syllable word, discuss.

wyzo

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

Graffin has a PhD in evolution/biology from Cornell(correct me if i'm wrong on that) so he's obviously an intelligent guy. So maybe the level of vocabulary he uses in his songs is fitting based on the field of work he's from? Or is it still a strike against him regardless since educated and learned people don't belong in punk rock?

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

Dude, your comments below said it all. BRAVO!

Bad Religion was an OK band in 1982, and they steadily went downhill from there. By the mid-1990s they were the standard bearers for the thesarus core movement. Face it, Bad Religion's silly, pretentious lyrics rank up there with Kansas and Rush: existentialism for 12 year olds. And these guys are like45 years old now. Not that being old means you can't make good music -- BUT BAD RELIGION CAN'T MAKE GOOD MUSIC. Their trite shit just gets more and more trite and shitty.

Hey, I'll come up with some words that are multisyllabic and that rhyme. And from there you can make a Bad Religion song:
Alliteration
Illumination
Frustration
Justification
Ji ngoistic Nation
Masturbatory Excitation
Social Disentigration
Military-Industrial Miscegenation

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

On a lighter note, my spelling also sucks.

---Trav.

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

Bad reliagion sucks.

---Trav.

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

I agree with Scruffy.

This dvd seriously fucking owns...it is a bit choppy though.

Scruffy (March 18, 2006)

If you seriously think that How Could Hell Be Any Worse? is better than anything post '88, you're hopeless. Seriously. I talk a lot of crap on here, but it's mostly because I'm bored. I'm serious here.
And what "thesaurus-core" movement? BR and Propaghandi? Anyway, why do you think anti-intellectualism is a good thing? Just because their lyrics are smart doesn't mean they're pretentious. I've understood their songs since I was sixteen. I've never understood the large part of American society that actively hates people with large vocabularies.
Not to mention I'd rather hear the so-called "pretentious" BR than the BR of 1980 who wrote the line "the first lady's a fucking les". Or the song "Frogger".

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

"Hey, I'll come up with some words that are multisyllabic and that rhyme. And from there you can make a Bad Religion song:"

wrong, see, BAD RELIGION can make a song from there, and it would sound awesome, and it would have a meaning.

thats why you are an idiot posting shit on a message board, while those guys tour around the world and entertain million of people with their music and smart lyrics.

thats enough 15 minutes of fame for you, next please.

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

Bad Religion was an OK band in 1982, and they steadily went downhill from there. By the mid-1990s they were the standard bearers for the thesarus core movement. Face it, Bad Religion's silly, pretentious lyrics rank up there with Kansas and Rush: existentialism for 12 year olds. And these guys are like45 years old now. Not that being old means you can't make good music -- BUT BAD RELIGION CAN'T MAKE GOOD MUSIC. Their trite shit just gets more and more trite and shitty.

Hey, I'll come up with some words that are multisyllabic and that rhyme. And from there you can make a Bad Religion song:

Alliteration
Illumination
Frustration
Justification
Jingoistic Nation
Masturbatory Excitation
Social Disentigration
Military-Industrial Miscegenation

Scruffy (March 18, 2006)

Don't forget the Descendents! They did the whole pop-punk thing years before most bands!
Oh, also Dag Nasty. They brought melody to hardcore, too. Enough that they are referred in some circles as emo!
And don't forget about Husker Du, who were also doing melodic punk years before 1988 (when Suffer came out, which is really the beginning of the BR we know and love, after their long hiatus before that).
Oh, and don't even get me started on bands like Screeching Weasel, Crimpshrine and The Replacements!
Man, those guys (and scores of other bands that were playign melodic punk well before Green Day, including many before BR) helped "awful" bands like Green Day ruin punk.

Bad Religion is one of the best bands of all time. I will have a Ramen Noodle fight with anyone who disagrees with me.

Anonymous (March 18, 2006)

I bought 'Suffer' about three years ago and every song sounds like the 'King Of The Hill' theme tune with "whoa"s in. Disappointing.

fallingupwards84 (March 18, 2006)

"Fallingupwards84 are you really a high school teacher?"

Yes, I graduated from college last year.

iconoclast (March 18, 2006)

does anyone else notice noise fluctuations while watching the dvd? cuz i do. but someone said thats cuz i watched it on my computer, which is how i do watch dvds. so if i watch it on a regular dvd does that mean the volume levels wont go up and down???

TheNightProwler (March 18, 2006)

I think the only problem with this Bad Religion DVD is that they have so many great songs that they could release two or three DVD's with totally different set-lists and you'd still be able to find songs that they left out that you'd want to hear.

Also I don't have a 5.1 system so it kind of sucks that I can't enjoy all the effort they put into the audio.

iconoclast (March 18, 2006)

To blame a band for sounding the way they naturally do is asinine."

word.

i also wanted to say, that i too like new america, no substance, and the grey race quite a bit. albeit, weaker than their other albums, but incredible in their own right. i think new america is probably my least favorite as a whole. the gray race i think is a fuckin masterpiece. that album seems to be so so so underrated.ok, nuff of my opinions.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

JOEG

i wrote a super long, similar comment and then that shit timed out and it got lost. thanks for reproducing my thoughts!

-the other scott

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Team rogaine!

RiseAgainstSSCC (March 17, 2006)

Damn you mr brett with your weird look in the DVD kind of like noodles from the offspring

joeg (March 17, 2006)

by george, I think we have the next Will in training....

"However, BR is pretty much responsible for the whole crappy major label pop-punk boom, as well as the crappy Warped Tour-type bands. By taking the basic hardcore sound and making it more palatable, they brought punk to...the bands that brought punk to the masses. If not for the success of Suffer, I don't think that Green Day could have "broken" punk."

You make it sound like Bad Religion had this preconceived, devious money making scheme in 1983 to ruin punk rock 20 years down the road by making their music more “safe” for the mainstream and heavily influence the nth generation bands that would eventually ruin punk rock.......that sounds so fucking lame. To blame a band for sounding the way they naturally do is asinine. And of course Greg’s melodic singing had a big influence on their sound. If anything, they stood out from the hardcore mold by BEING melodic when everyone was barking and screaming. Isn’t that “punk“?

By your argument, why stop at Bad Religion? I’m willing to bet Green Day and Offspring and Blink 182 were equally, if not more influenced by the Ramones. How about the Ramones? It's no secret they wanted desperately to be recognized in the mainstream....

"Now Mr. Brett thinks that being successful gives him the right to ruin punk. "

Brett’s success gives him the right to make a living and run his business the way he sees fit. He runs a major label and the guy is out to make money. Crazy, I know. Whatever bands he chooses to put out and whatever he deems is "punk," if even in fact that's the basis on which he signs bands, is his own opinion. And with his resume, he's fully entitled to that, however much you or I disagree. I’m not a fan of the majority of Epitaph bands but so what? If you want to blame anybody for ruining punk, start from 1977 till now when generations of bands just became carbon copies of each other and the generations of kids that followed continued to eat it all up.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Is "I'm in love with my computer" on this?

feeeding5000 (March 17, 2006)

Thanks to someone for doing a "...I thought this was PUNKnews..." comment. That just restored my faith in the general stupidity of, like, everyone. I have to say, first off, that BR is one of my top 3 all-time favorite bands. I have 6 of their albums (no, I'm not bragging), and I LOVE each and every one. However, BR is pretty much responsible for the whole crappy major label pop-punk boom, as well as the crappy Warped Tour-type bands. By taking the basic hardcore sound and making it more palatable, they brought punk to...the bands that brought punk to the masses. If not for the success of Suffer, I don't think that Green Day could have "broken" punk. Now Mr. Brett thinks that being successful gives him the right to ruin punk. Look at Epitaph's latest stuff: Matchbook Romance, Escape the Fate, Motion City Soundtrack. This is the kind of made-for MTV2 fashion concious pop-rock that is making punk "good business". But, come on! "Punk belongs to the punks, not the businessmen. They need us, we don't need them, punk will never be dead!" Those words are still true after 20 or so years. We DON'T need them. Best Buy offers low prices on the BR DVD: It's also running independent record stores out of business. Epitaph bands appear on the Warped Tour, sponsored by companies like Sony and Circuit City, who just HAPPEN to want to sell "punk rock" CDs, video games, and TVs to a "punk rock" fanbase of rich white teenagers. Brett may not be a greedy person, but when you start a company, it takes on a life of its own. If Epitaph continues after Brett "retires", then what will it be? Just another corporate entity, out for more of your money.

Phantom_Maggot (March 17, 2006)

I like 80-85 a lot...it's just a very different kind of BR sound.

rkl (March 17, 2006)

In the `80, clip the band looks like what it was: a bunch of teenage punks pounding through their 3-song set with Graffin doing much more screaming than singing and Jay Bentley standing incredibly stoic (compared to his now lively stage performance
i like br a lot better that way. not the stoicism, but the screaming.

fistchode (March 17, 2006)

I thought No Substance was bad, Grey Race was decent, and New America was really good.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

In the interviews they called the period without Brett "the dark years" but to me that seems like Greg just trying not to piss off Brett.

The Gray Race, No Substance, and The New America are all very good albums and I think a lot of the criticism of them from that era comes from people who haven't actually listened to those cd's from start to finish. The New America was actually the cd that got me into BR and punk rock in general.

Phantom_Maggot (March 17, 2006)

Fallingupwards84 are you really a high school teacher?

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

good review, the editing and authoring of the concert/interview mix is poor, doesnt do justice to the music and visual quality.

"do you think they added back up vocals to the show? like in a studio then edited it into the sound mix of the dvd. i mean, im not doubting their ability to do it that good live, but its just a thought i had."

i assume its the mixing, it was mixed for 5.1 surround, and there was an interesting article about it from the guys who did it, but cant find the link at the moment. anyway, my point is, it sounds so good cause they had the chance to focus on the good stuff. but i dont believe they added stuff, thats not br style, listen to tested.

iconoclast (March 17, 2006)

do you think they added back up vocals to the show? like in a studio then edited it into the sound mix of the dvd. i mean, im not doubting their ability to do it that good live, but its just a thought i had.

fallingupwards84 (March 17, 2006)

this should be 10 stars

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

No multiple angles? I am a drummer who bought the DVD for one purpose. To watch Brooks play. The Vandals DVD has a Josh cam, which is the best thing ever for drummers. I'll have to say I was VERY disappointed that there was no angle function on this DVD. Overall the editing was poor at best. The interviews were great and made the DVD worthwhile.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

if you don't think "the show must go off" stuff is edited you are fooling yourself. why does Skiba pull away from the mic in the Alk3 one and you can still hear the vocals just as loud? or watch Warren from the vandals play guitar and listen to the solo on "albacore." they don't match at all.

FredPhelps (March 17, 2006)

picked it up, it's awesome. Thanks BR.

iconoclast (March 17, 2006)

"Does this have 'in so many ways on it' I love that song and have never seen them play it."

it doesnt. but it really should. thats one of my favorite songs by them. they never ever really play anything off no substance.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Well..havent seen the DVD yet but, how can any one on this site say that "BAD RELIGION" is not one of the best punk bands of all time! i thought this was PUNKNEWS, not EMO-NEWS....Thats all i gotta say bout that.

skankin_in_the_pit (March 17, 2006)

"its the venue who sets the prices"

I understand that. Maybe I'm naive, but I think about 95% of punk bands would refuse to play under those circumstances. Also Fishbone played an all ages show for about $10 (with no sort of VIP table bullshit) at the same place about a week after the BR show.

Believe me I looked for any way to defend BR, and am not looking to be a "hater." I just lost quite a bit of respect for a band that I loved since it seems they don't care about their fans.

dungeston (March 17, 2006)

Does this have 'in so many ways on it' I love that song and have never seen them play it.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

great dvd...long as hell...last time i saw them live i paid
like $15...so fuck the guy who made the 1st comment..
its the venue who sets the prices.

skankin_in_the_pit (March 17, 2006)

Last time BR played here it was a 21 and over show with ticket prices of $55 or "VIP tickets that included a table close to the stage and bottle service for four" that were like $130. At the risk of sounding like Will, that is everything wrong with punk rock. I'm not really an everything has to be totally diy type dude, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. I'll probably be digging Suffer, HCHBAW, and some of the others forever but there is no way I could possibly support these dudes now.

Does this have any good views of the adults with enough discretionary income to get in rocking out at their tables close to the stage? They're usually the same douchbags that think Stranger Than Fiction and the last two are the best BR albums.

givemeamuseumandillfillit (March 17, 2006)

This dvd is absolutley great. It's also one of the first dvds without any flaws (such as being off-synched, or the most annoying, that the first track and it's intro is 0 and not 1).

fox82 (March 17, 2006)

So, does this have pictures or videos of Greg beating it off on a webcam?

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

was tim from rise against on this for that one song on the new album

Phantom_Maggot (March 17, 2006)

Yeah I got mine for 13.99 from Tower. It was worth it. I also forgot to mention that the sounds are synced up with the video 100% of the time.

sickboi (March 17, 2006)

I know big chains aren't "punx", but Best Buy has this fucker on sale for $13 this week.

Since94 (March 17, 2006)

This DVD is ficking intense...Sorrow kicks some major ass...

the_other_scott (March 17, 2006)

Most pretentious band ever (lyrically)?


i remember listening to Recipe for Hate on tape back in 6th and 7th grade and singing along to every word. problem was i didn't understand what i was singing about, now i've graduated college, and i understand a good 75% of what greg's singing about.

the guy's not pretentious, he's smart.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

i really wanna pick that one up...damn not having money

deathbyguitar (March 17, 2006)

im not gonna complain about the footage being spliced and whatnot because the "along the way" dvd is much guitier of the two. i will say that the action you do see is just to frantic and you don't see the same view for very long. excellent from what i saw. i must have it

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

"Most pretentious band ever (lyrically)?"

its because you are too stupid to try to understand them

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Most pretentious band ever (lyrically)?

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

great DVD

greetings from Switzerland

Fuck the haters, they are not punk

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Good DVD if you like Bad Religion, which I do, but I'm biased.

-Brett

ps - yes I still visit this site despite all the haters.

pps - yes it's really me.

ppps - oh never mind!

swingline (March 17, 2006)

someone once told me there wasn't much a difference between yellowcard and bad religion except the lack of vocal talent.

almostpunkenough (March 17, 2006)

i need to get this asap.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Second best live DVD I've seen. My favorite would have to be the Vandals one because the sound quality is superior on that one.

The interviews were really interesting on this one. I found it funny how they interviewed that middle aged guy and he acted like he was a huge fan who had passed down his punk roots to his daughters................yet when they asked him what his favorite BR song was he couldn't even remember the name of the song lol.

When I first looked at the setlist from this show I was kinda dissapointed but after watching the DVD I think it was a great set! It gave me new found interest in some of their songs I haven't listened to in a long time.

clamum (March 17, 2006)

Nice review. I wish I had some money to pick this up.

iconoclast (March 17, 2006)

"The most over rated punk rock band of the past 25 years.
Bar none."

i felt that way for a long time. then about 4 years ago, i began to understand, thanks to suffer, and now i love every album.

the_other_scott (March 17, 2006)

who?

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

" I worship Greg Graffin"

When you were in 5th grade? He probably would have worshiped you too.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

The most over rated punk rock band of the past 25 years.

Bar none.

iconoclast (March 17, 2006)

yea i noticed the glasses being on brett one second, and off the other. but if you dont focus on it much it doesnt really fuck up the viewing experience. any fan of br should pick it up. the interviews really give you a good feel for these guys personalities. jay is such a fucking goofball. i love him. haha. they are all really cool guys. im never going to shut up about wanting "god song" on this dvd. ok ill shut up about it. but! its one of the their top 5 songs, hands down.

Anonymous (March 17, 2006)

Fuck bad religion.

Bring that shit...I know it's coming.

WilliamZabka (March 17, 2006)

This DVD is very good. That's interesting about the editing, I didn't notice that when I watched this for the first time. The piano version of Cease is great. The sound quality is excellent. The 80 -82 clips are halirious... Greg is a goofy teenager and Brett is an angry serious guy. .. but then again, Greg is still goofy at whatever age he is now. Brett mellowed out a bit.
Totally worth picking up this DVD.

joeg (March 17, 2006)

"For example, during several songs Mr. Brett has his glasses on, and then in the next shot, they are off."

i'm a little confused by what you mean here. not likely but do you mean during a song they used clips from different nights or that they used songs from both nights? i love bad religion but i don't know about this. i hate that herky jerky style where there's like 10 different camera angles and they use all of them in a 10 second frame.

lookmommyididit (March 17, 2006)

gotta pick this bad boy up

gladimnotemo (March 17, 2006)

I watched this on VH1 and it was terrible. Again, the only good stuff this band did was on "How Could Hell..." or 81-85 or whatever it's called.

kingofpain (March 17, 2006)

This is just based on what I saw on Vh1

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