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Atreyu

A Death-Grip on Yesterday
2006
Victory

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Review by: crazytoledo
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Published on March 28th 2006

I admit that I’ve always liked Atreyu. The Curse was one of my favorites of 2004, and Suicide Notes was easily one of the better purchases I made in 2005. I don’t know if it was Brandon Saller’s strong signing, the refreshing, dueling guitars of Dan Jacobs and Travis Miguel, or if it was just the entire package; simply, they've always felt like the complete package for a metalcore band, and I’ve always been interested in whatever they did (besides the Bon Jovi cover on the "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" soundtrack).

‘Ex’s and Oh’s" is the first single off of Death-Grip, and it showcases the main difference in Atreyu. While at times they still stick with their tried and true metalcore formula ("Creature"), a lot of the songs are cleaner ("Our Sick Story") with a lot of the songs being driven by Saller (who also played a bigger role in writing the songs). Also, when Alex Varkatzas isn’t shouting, he throws in some surprisingly good clean vocals, with Marc McKnight helping out with some extra backing vocals. "Ex’s and Oh’s" is highlighted by the melodic guitar solos by Miguel and Jacobs, and the majority of the song is driven by Saller’s singing, which has taken a huge rise above his mediocre and overproduced vocals on The Curse.

The rest of Death-Grip follows the pattern. At times it’s the older, straight-up metalcore Atreyu you either love or hate. At times it’s the evolved Atreyu, in which the maturation has lead to catchy and chaotic rock songs with melody, strong hooks, and loads of melodic and technical solos. It feels like a throwback to the `80s with a mix of the melody of the Cure, and the shredding and soloing of Iron Maiden. The combination between the two styles leads to a unique experience, as the band shows that they can be more than just a metalcore band, which they pull off better than what Avenged Sevenfold try to do.

"You can’t affect how other people feel, so don’t let them affect how you feel" was a message Alex Varkatzas received from a fortune cookie, and luckily the band decided to follow the message. Sure, Atreyu could have easily made the same old songs and still would have been extremely popular, but their search for what satisfies them allows for them to reach out and achieve what they truly want to do, which makes Death-Grip even more satisfying.

Few bands have been able to evolve and achieve what Atreyu have done. On their debut album they crafted the metalcore album that bands have been trying to do for years. With their third release, Atreyu has fine-tuned their craft even more and have created one of the best albums of 2006.



People who liked this also liked:
Atreyu - The CurseAvenged Sevenfold - City Of EvilMy Chemical Romance - Three Cheers For Sweet RevengeFrom First to Last - HeroineAlexisonfire - CrisisAtreyu - Suicide Notes and Butterfly KissesFrom First To Last - Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has A Body CountMy Chemical Romance - The Black ParadeAgainst Me! - As The Eternal CowboyRefused - The Shape of Punk to Come



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    Posted by tmfxjohn on 2008-01-28 18:00:13
    My Score:

    atreyu's best. although that may not seem like much of a glowing review, it's the best way to sum it up.

    no filler, no bullshit, and some excellent guitar playing. sounds like a good listen to me

    Posted by Mezzy on 2008-01-22 03:23:45
    My Score:

    Would have been better if it was a little longer
    Throughly enjoyed it. Good riffs, some nice clean vocals from Alex came as a suprise.

    Posted by clamum on 2007-12-25 07:08:02

    Does that Will piece of shit still post on the site? You know, the know-it-all high schooler? Hahaha. What a tool.

    Posted by Albert_Belle on 2007-05-19 13:31:32

    I'm still kinda in disbelief as to how this album received a 9.

    Posted by PanasonicYouth519 on 2007-04-03 22:50:59
    My Score:

    A few more songs would have been nice, but I thought Suicide Notes and The Curse were better

    Posted by life-is-fucking-joke on 2007-02-15 08:30:01
    My Score:

    very good cd but the curse is way better

    Posted by jackrodd on 2007-01-09 14:17:52
    My Score:

    i really liked this album.
    the music was harderrr.
    "Our Sick Story" was a good song.

    Posted by silent_slayer on 2006-12-26 22:53:40
    My Score:

    Great material from Atreyu. This may set an example on how consistent a band can be when developing a music style. The album is as good as they come. Kudos to crazytoledo for his review on this....

    Posted by C_Z on 2006-12-06 20:32:22

    I've been an Atreyu fan since Suicide Notes..
    but honestly this doesn't cut it for me.
    The songs aren't as hardcore as they used to be, and for me, they've changed fr the wose. i liked the old atreyu the one who weren't afraid to use sick guitar riffss, etc, and now they have tried to be a bit more mainstream.. and I dont like it..

    though i have said that, a bunch of the songs on the cd I accept of.. ..

    cheers

    Posted by chriswilson22 on 2006-11-12 18:11:24

    "creatures" is a pretty strong song...I'd like these guys alot more is the lead singer wasnt completely full of himself. Complete idiot.

    However, im not gonna be the typical person to say i dont like them because they dont scream as much as they used to. Thats redictulous, good songwriting is good songwriting

    Posted by rookie06 on 2006-10-12 17:02:51

    **creatures** all the fuckin way

    Posted by rookie06 on 2006-10-12 17:02:46

    **creatures** all the fuckin way

    Posted by rookie06 on 2006-10-12 17:02:42

    **creatures** all the fuckin way

    Posted by Satelliteyrs on 2006-10-02 01:04:50
    My Score:

    fav of this yr

    Posted by Chesh on 2006-08-11 12:35:06

    Atreyu never fails to impress me. I was introduced to them by a dear friend around the time "The Curse" -just- came out. I had never been a music buff, listening to mostly Disturbed, The Beach Boys, and country music (I was a loser, yes) But when that CD was laid before me in a CD player it was as if I'd found the Holy Grail of Rock ^_^

    I could care less what all you 'put-downers' say, stupid emos...Atreyu will forever rock! They've already shown us that they can (slightly) change their style without fucking everything up (like A7X...idiots)

    I'd have to say that my personal fav on the new D.G.O.Y. would have to be, "The Untitled Finale" or "Her Portrait in Black"

    Atreyu forever!

    Posted by dpotts on 2006-08-01 00:46:30
    My Score:

    This is one of those records that Atreyu should try to cover up kinda like Bad Religion did with Into the Unknown.

    Posted by dpotts on 2006-08-01 00:46:11
    My Score:

    This is one of those records that should Atreyu should try to cover up kinda like Bad Religion did with Into the Unknown.

    Posted by dangertrevor on 2006-06-20 23:56:32
    My Score:

    When are they just gonna stop putting out albums? Seriously, I'm sick of it, every release atreyu puts out is total and compete repetitive bullshitttt.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 at 7:39 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    i have to say i was truly impressed with this albulm, it caught me off gaurd by how good it was, i was expecting that stupid "curse" shit

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 26, 2006 at 11:02 PM (EDT)

    this album is so fuking bullshit, they stil writing songs for 12 year olds fuck that!

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-05-09 12:38:28

    Posted by ilovesonny on 2006-05-04 13:15:07

    I found it funny you go off the site to insult my taste in music when one of your favorite rated cds is the Atreyu CD I gave a 9.

    And then you called out my bad taste in music on Punknews and said I probably listen to Green Day (who I hate) when your favorite releases are by bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Hawthorne Heights, and From First to Last.

    Now that made my day.

    Posted by ilovesonny on 2006-05-04 13:15:07

    oh and Mr_Streetcore---do all lovers of CLick 5 look the same????

    Posted by ilovesonny on 2006-05-04 13:14:23

    1. if your going to post something bad about a band at least have the balls to put your name
    2. if you dont like atreyu then you havent heard music before
    3. Atreyu is awesome and they write good music
    4. I Love Sonny Moore
    5. From First To Last and Hawthorne Heights are just as awesome
    6. Sonny is hot

    Posted by Mr_Streetcore on 2006-05-03 12:52:26

    do all you lovers of atreyu look the fuckling same?

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-05-02 11:41:59

    Hey I'm the one that changes peoples post like that.

    Stop copying me.

    Posted by evil_dead on 2006-04-26 21:06:59

    "this band kicks ass so unless you have a desent comment keep ur mouth fucking shut and listen to ur pussy assed shit"

    This band sucks ass. So, unless you have a decent comment, keep your fucking fingers away from the keyboard you inept smegma consumer.

    JXS

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 at 10:42 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    this band kicks ass so unless you have a desent comment keep ur mouth fucking shut and listen to ur pussy assed shit

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 21, 2006 at 8:15 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    this c,d is sooo awesome.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 21, 2006 at 1:35 AM (EDT)

    Last commenter...I like this band too, but honestly...do you have ANY idea how stupid you sound?

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 7:07 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Atreyu is f***in awesome and this album is the best one yet and anyone who thinks they suck are f***in stupid and they dont know what real rock music is !!! So f*** all those bastards who think Atreyu sucks!!! Get your head out of your ass because they rock !!! GO Atreyu !!! and please continue to make great music !!!

    Posted by Mr_Streetcore on 2006-04-19 06:05:46

    oh dear. modern rock is doomed i tells ya! doomed!

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 14, 2006 at 3:03 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    you know i actually like this cd alot and i thought i was gunna hate it cause i dont like the curse at all too 80's for me in some songs but i like the 1st 1 alot.

    this reminds me of the 1st album with a more rock feel mixed in

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 14, 2006 at 3:02 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    you know i actually like this cd alot and i thought i was gunna hate it cause i dont like the curse at all to 80's for me in some songs but i like the 1st 1 alot.

    this reminds me of the 1st album with a more rock feel mixed in

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 13, 2006 at 4:32 PM (EDT)

    This isn't as good as The Curse imo.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 13, 2006 at 11:20 AM (EDT)

    death grip on yesterday is a rock'n cd.
    ex's and oh's is the best song.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 at 6:23 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    The singing in this album is much better than the albums that preceeded it. Music seems like it is going towards the direction of rock instead of hardcore but the music is still amazing.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 at 10:31 AM (EDT)

    It's called being a fan. That's all THEY'RE doing. I can see why people get irritated. I mean why come here and comment on something you DON'T like? Get a job. I say again, it's called being a fan. Live, love, learn, die.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-04-11 18:15:50

    Wow, how many ignorant minded, oblivious idiots will come in and try to act like there all that and hate on anyone that hates the band. They complain about how you should say how you hate the band, they then go on and say they hate you. Come on? Please grow some brains and have enough maturaity (sp) and post something with reason, not just a throw away message no one will aknowledge except when they're trying to prove a point.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:31 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    i liked the cd a lot, and if you don't,
    i suggest not commenting if you hate the cd because you look like a bunch of illiterate morons.
    did you guys get out of fifth grade yet?
    fuck you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 8, 2006 at 8:56 PM (EDT)

    awsome cd better sream better guitare !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 7, 2006 at 2:16 AM (EDT)

    I think it's hilarious how some people say, "These guys are fake hardcore, so they suck."

    Then others say, "Hardcore sucks so Atreyu sucks."

    Am I the only one that can see that they are BETWEEN Rock/Hardcore. You can even throw the word Metal in there if it makes you happy. These guys can play, they can write music, they stay in time, not all of their music is in 4/4, they aren't the greatest band ever, they are not the worst band ever.

    Yes they give off a glam rock image, but since when haven't rock stars done this. Does the band Van Halen or Kiss suck solely because DLR wore tight spandex pants and acted flamboyant on stage or because Kiss wore makeup?

    I think half of the arguments in here cannot be justifed because they are simply hipocritical. How can someone who "loves good music" hate Atreyu because they wear eye liner or tight pants? How can someone think Atreyu is the best band ever when you haven't heard every band ever?

    My Opinion: From what I have heard, I like the album. Not as over-produced as "The Curse" was and definately a step forward. I think as long as they continue to evolve and bring fresh new material to the table they will be on my play list. No not everyone has to love them, musical taste is completely subjective so there is no point in trying to reason with anyone that their musical taste sucks. The skill of a band is an objective way of deciding how good a band is technically, but since when has that ever been THE deciding factor in a great band?

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 6, 2006 at 9:49 PM (EDT)

    holy krap atreyu is the best band and i love their new cd.... death grip on yesterday is an awsome album and should be loved across the world..... atreyu rocks.....

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 6, 2006 at 3:59 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    Here's the deal if you don't like Atreyu than you don't like real metalcore. The premiere metalcore bands are...Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, and A7X...most other metalcore bands are weak

    Posted by SilentStorms on 2006-04-04 19:12:05

    Is it just me? Or do the people who really really like Atreyu bash everyone who doesn't like them? Meh, that's Atreyu fans for you. Booo yeah!

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-04-04 11:36:50

    This premiered at #8 with 70-75k sold.

    Sweet.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 at 11:22 AM (EDT)
    My Score:

    These arguments are really pointless. I'm only contributing because I believe that this album, like many others, only gets better the more you listen to it. I was never big into Atreyu but I saw them live and decided to pick this one up along with Suicide Notes...Not exactly my top 10 but there's no need to hate. We all have to get that paper

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 at 8:44 AM (EDT)

    And if you dont like the band dont post it on here.
    Noone cares.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 at 8:34 AM (EDT)

    Atreyu=best band in the fucking world
    anyone who disagrees is an asshole.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 at 1:10 AM (EDT)

    Fuck you all, Atreyu is awesome. Go eat shit and die in a fucking hole you homos.

    Sincerely, James

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 at 10:46 PM (EDT)

    I'll sum up everybody's feelings on this CD to save anymore comments.

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Posted by md40_07 on 2006-04-03 17:16:42

    "Oh my god this album is absoutely horrid.
    I reviewed this for my schools paper and i really could not get through the entire thing. I just gave up after track 6.

    This album is going to cause a whole new legion of black haired,girl pant wearing assholes. I never got this metalcore thing, i just thought it was a transitional period between wearing collar shirts and listening to saves the day to throwing on mesh shorts,a flat brimmed hat and spinkicking your teen angst away to first blood.

    listen to darkthrone.

    _bryan styles"

    Okay first off...anyone who refers to an album as "horrid" probably shouldn't even be listening to any thing related to Atreyu in the first place. Go listen to the Brittish version of American Idol or something. Also, this album isn't going to cause a new legion of people like that. Its already happened. but whatever.

    Posted by SilentStorms on 2006-04-03 16:59:52

    "i jus wanted to say that there r sum ppl out there that still like atreyu such as moi and to all u atreyu haters all i ave to say is FUCK OFF atreyu is betta than ull ever be"

    Ahahahaha, if I wanted to be commercial sissy hardcore I could do it. So could lots of people, but we actually have respect for ourselves. That was kinda mean. Meh. Just cuz you like Atreyu doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't like it is a douchebag. The same goes for people who like the band, it's people who say"fuck off" to people who don't like the same bands that need to "fuck off". Like you. Scooooooooore.

    Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 at 2:08 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    You are right, this doesn't diserve 9. It diserves 10. In my opinion Atreyu is different from other victorys bands and Atreyu is doing good music, though it's fasioncore and MTV orientated and what ever you say. If Atreyu would be on European MTV, then I would finally watch it.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 2, 2006 at 10:06 PM (EDT)
    My Score:

    The first time I listened to this album, I hated it. After a few times listening to it, though, my opinon changed, it's pretty good. I have a lot of respect for Atreyu for making this album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 2, 2006 at 8:13 PM (EDT)

    amazing album.

    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 2, 2006 at 3:13 AM (EDT)

    Personally, I think this review was the April's fools joke (albeit a rather early one)

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 3:48 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    i jus wanted to say that there r sum ppl out there that still like atreyu such as moi and to all u atreyu haters all i ave to say is FUCK OFF atreyu is betta than ull ever be

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 3:17 PM (EST)

    clown rock

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 2:24 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Definitely a solid record, but I can't say that it's necessarily a 9. Good review, though.

    - P-Fresh

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 8:52 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    S´m noz quite 20 yet and why is no band able to produce hardcore on the level of negative approach, ssd etc. I thought is was so easy to play....

    Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 at 8:51 AM (EST)

    i´m so sick of this kind of bands

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-31 10:08:54


    "I feel it welling up inside and Robert Smith lied
    Boys do cry and with blood tears in my eyes
    I'm an Anne Rice novel come to life
    I can't hide the monster anymore"


    In all fairness, the 'Crimson' is a vampire styled song lyrically and not a serious song.

    Posted by SilentStorms on 2006-03-31 09:16:38

    I hate this band. Just plain shit. Boo on 4.5 stars, serious boo. I can't even talk about this anymore.

    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 31, 2006 at 12:55 AM (EST)

    This review should be taken down; this album does not deserve nine stars, nor does anything by this band. What you forget is how easy it is to reproduce bland shit like this - high amounts of stars should be given to truly unique albums, not some teen's fetish of the week.

    Posted by swingline on 2006-03-31 00:53:07

    3/27/2006 by Kris from Jacksonville, TX Rating:
    InterPunk, you guys rule. This cd is really good. It is a little different than Atreyu's other stuff, but just as good and just as amazing. This cd made me want to go to practice with my band (ABBESS) imediateley after hearing it. I recomend this cd to anyone who enjoys strong, well writen, and well produced music. This is a cd you can listen to over and over and over again.

    ^ someone needs to end atreyu. pronto.

    Posted by darkstarm on 2006-03-30 23:16:03

    When I see the dumb-ass scenester kids at my school looking sad, I ask them if they've been feeling particularly D.C. post-hardcore lately and they look at me with vacant eyes, and then yell and insist that post-hardcore sounds NOTHING like "emo". Then I tell them they suck. Fools.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 10:10 PM (EST)

    hardcore dancing is for total losers.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2006-03-30 21:29:25

    You know whats funny about that Toledo? I bet you have never even heard the band he mentioned. Kind of like when you pretended you knew what post hardcore was even though the only example you could come up with was that Orange band who are more nu metal then post hardcore. Theres a world outside your bubble.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-30 21:09:12

    I may be mixing them up with some other band...

    But I rather listen to any of the previous listed bands I stated.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 9:06 PM (EST)

    Well yeah, CrazyToledo, that's because you have a crappy taste in music.

    Anyone who claims to know anything about metal, then utters the words "Darthrone isn't anything too special" has just lost any credibility they thought they had.

    -Will

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 8:19 PM (EST)

    no way, darhthrone is krieg

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-30 19:52:26

    Darkthorne isn't anything too special.

    I'd rather listen to some Darkest Hour, Between the Buried and Me, Killing the Dream, Ed Gein, Absence, God Forbid, or Nile.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 5:59 PM (EST)

    "This album is going to cause a whole new legion of black haired,girl pant wearing assholes. I never got this metalcore thing, i just thought it was a transitional period between wearing collar shirts and listening to saves the day to throwing on mesh shorts,a flat brimmed hat and spinkicking your teen angst away to first blood.

    listen to darkthrone"

    Uh... As if Darkthrone isn't just as fashionbased as this band.

    But better music, definitely.

    -Will

    Posted by feeeding5000 on 2006-03-30 17:51:07

    And no, I'm not trying to prove my "punk cred"...I don't buy new records...

    Posted by feeeding5000 on 2006-03-30 17:50:33

    ...I think this week has the worst reviews yet. Who thinks I should review another Crass album? Or maybe "Gang of Four- Entertainment!"?

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 2:34 PM (EST)

    Funny Story:

    This band was never good!

    Posted by rylo6 on 2006-03-30 11:28:55

    old atreyu was better

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-30 10:56:33

    To the one comment, Atreyu has had 5 releases; two EPs and 3 full lengths. I was only referencing full lengths.

    Also, the CD is $9.99 snd the Aiden reissue is for their full length before 'Nightmare Anatomy.'

    Posted by sfbarker on 2006-03-30 10:19:26
    My Score:

    I interviewed Kittie once...and their drummer said this band was killer...I downloaded some songs, they sucked...then Victory sent us an album, it sucked...this album...sucked. This band...sucked. Sure, the one little hispanic guitar player shreds, but so do the guitarists in the local hair metal cover bands...

    Taking a character from an influential kids movie and dragging the name through the mud by playing mediocre hair-metal revivalist garbage show be punishable by sterilization...when I rule the world, this will be so.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 9:40 AM (EST)

    OFF TOPIC- for those of you who care, the "Weight" era Rollins Band has officially re-united. And, more slightly ON-Topic, they would murder these pansies.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 9:09 AM (EST)

    "horrible comments"

    thanks for contributing to the problem.

    Posted by mikeinflames on 2006-03-30 07:13:58

    "if you like atreyu. buy the album."

    i like atreyu and i still think this album is shit

    so it's not that simple asschap

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 5:21 AM (EST)

    if you like atreyu. buy the album. simple as that. its a good album for atreyu fans. if you dont like atreyu.. dont buy it. this site gives horrible reviews accompanied by horrible comments the majority of the time. doubt any one would ever judge buying an album or not by reading the shit thats posted on here.

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 3:42 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    this album is worth listening to even if your not a big Atreyu fan, the way in which they play their instruments is impressive

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 2:12 AM (EST)

    Oh my god this album is absoutely horrid.
    I reviewed this for my schools paper and i really could not get through the entire thing. I just gave up after track 6.

    This album is going to cause a whole new legion of black haired,girl pant wearing assholes. I never got this metalcore thing, i just thought it was a transitional period between wearing collar shirts and listening to saves the day to throwing on mesh shorts,a flat brimmed hat and spinkicking your teen angst away to first blood.

    listen to darkthrone.

    _bryan styles

    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 12:43 AM (EST)

    Hey GreenVandal, aren't you old? I mean, do you really have to get so upset about a 17 year old's Atreyu review? It's not as if it means the album is ACTUALLY good, and that it will trick anyone into buying the album. Even if it did, the type of person that would happen to really deserves to lose the $9.99, that'll teach them a lesson they'll NEVER forget.

    Oh, and to people complaining about the Atreyu bashing; Have you ever thought that maybe the reason so many people are making fun of them is not because they are trendy snobish scenesters, but because the album/band is not very good..or really,really,really bad for that matter? Well, you should.

    And to the guy trying to get Will to book a show for him; Calling him "young William" all the time is creepy as hell and that's probably why he won't book your band. I mean I know I wouldn't invite anyone I thought was a dangerous sexual predator into my town.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2006-03-30 00:11:45
    My Score:

    "Go jerk off instead."

    Yes sir. It's certainly more useful to humanity then this review.

    Posted by notfeelingcreative on 2006-03-29 23:55:24

    I saw a bunch of 16 year old kids play a 10 minute set of powerviolence songs last night. They had demo tapes with them and "posters" made from silk-screened grocery bags. They had homemade Spazz t-shirts and called the crowd pussies for not knowing the slayer cover they ended the set with (we actually did know it). It made me think - THIS is the future of hardcore punk. Not Atreyu.

    -Ken

    On an unrelated note I saw a bunch of 40 year old former heshers in Iron Maiden shirts drunkenly moshing to facedowninshit and Municipal Waste, it made me think-old people in my town have better taste than the youth.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 11:09 PM (EST)

    4th release not 3rd.

    Posted by LeightonESmith on 2006-03-29 22:55:46
    My Score:

    This is a solid cd. I still like their first the best but anyone that liked the Curse is a dickhead with no taste, it was a terrible followup. I'll just say for the record that hating on Atreyu is such a cliche. STOP CONFORMING AND PANDERING TO YOUR COOLER THAN THOU PEERS.
    Only classic cds deserve a 9. This is only average. I like tracks 6 and 9.
    Another thing, if you haven't heard the cd and you are commenting based upon stereotypes, you have no crediblity. Go jerk off instead.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:35 PM (EST)

    good to know ken's not a pussy....gimmie a break

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:30 PM (EST)

    I saw a bunch of 16 year old kids play a 10 minute set of powerviolence songs last night. They had demo tapes with them and "posters" made from silk-screened grocery bags. They had homemade Spazz t-shirts and called the crowd pussies for not knowing the slayer cover they ended the set with (we actually did know it). It made me think - THIS is the future of hardcore punk. Not Atreyu.

    -Ken

    Posted by mikeinflames on 2006-03-29 22:30:46
    My Score:

    i liked thier first two albums
    i guess you could say they are guilty pleasures of mine
    but this album is just flat out boring
    sounds like it's a comp of b-sides and tunes that didn't make it onto thier last album
    shitty release

    it's funny how much push thier last album got by the label versus how much push this one got
    guess even Tony Victory can smell a real shit album when it comes along

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:29 PM (EST)

    Fuck this band.........trendy, non-threatening, safe pop garbage that outsells every great band out there today. Wanna know why the music industry sucks today? Loo no further than this and all of it's imitators.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:04 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    just curious, how much is this at best buy? i know alot of times, best buy will have this type of album 7.99-9.99 opening week. if its 7.99 i'll prob get it, and mayube even if its 9.99

    Posted by md40_07 on 2006-03-29 22:02:24

    "Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-28 18:35:09

    at least he gave a one to the aiden's album

    If all goes well their reissue should get a just as shitty review.

    :)"

    Wait...Aiden is reissuing there album? That would be like a sequel to The Ringer...sigh...

    Posted by md40_07 on 2006-03-29 21:57:56
    My Score:

    I know weve had our duels in the past...but you hit the nail right on the head here. This CD is amazing and I would definitly give it a 4 1/2...I would have given it a 5 but I think it lacked one more song.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 9:34 PM (EST)

    "keep it up and you guys will really regret the next spam attack."

    this guy actually thinks hes seriously "getting us" with his spam. NEWS FLASH ATREYU SUCKS HORRIBLY, AND HAS FAGS FOR FANS LIKE YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND

    Posted by notfeelingcreative on 2006-03-29 21:26:10

    I don't particularly enjoy this style of music.

    Posted by Godfather on 2006-03-29 20:47:17
    My Score:

    Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-29 20:33:12
    My Score:

    some of what people say on here is ridiculous...all they do is criticise the revewiers like they always suck no matter what they do, its so fucking sad that just becuase this is atreyu floods of scene police come on here bashing the shit out of it. it makes me sick, can u not get a life and some sort of intellignce? how about having an opinion on the actual album, not the band or the genre (which so many of you just plain hate in the worst form of bias) this is actually not a bad album at all, its not spectacular but decent, if nobody can agree with that then its obvious your just a bunch of shit stirrers who cant satnd anyone who wears more than two peices of black clothing, has arm tats and a fringe, fuck off


    aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahaahahahahahhaa

    aaaa aaaaaaahahahahaahahah

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 8:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    some of what people say on here is ridiculous...all they do is criticise the revewiers like they always suck no matter what they do, its so fucking sad that just becuase this is atreyu floods of scene police come on here bashing the shit out of it. it makes me sick, can u not get a life and some sort of intellignce? how about having an opinion on the actual album, not the band or the genre (which so many of you just plain hate in the worst form of bias) this is actually not a bad album at all, its not spectacular but decent, if nobody can agree with that then its obvious your just a bunch of shit stirrers who cant satnd anyone who wears more than two peices of black clothing, has arm tats and a fringe, fuck off

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 7:48 PM (EST)

    how can you even compare Lawrence Arms and Atreyu? It's not even a similiar music genre. Atreyu take themselves and their cock rocker-image way too serious in the first place.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 7:46 PM (EST)

    i call it it...reissue in 3 months. album color inverted and HUGE FUCKING STICKER announcing the 2 bonus tracks and victory sampler.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 7:38 PM (EST)

    this cd is better than lawrence arms new one. hands down more fun

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2006-03-29 19:32:38
    My Score:

    OMG! Look at this guys! We have a real professional on the site! He gives things the same average ratings as such fine publications as Alternative Press! Rolling Stone! (insert other "music" magazines that dont know anything about music)

    You are such a fucking tool. Cant you pollute some other site?

    Posted by sickboi on 2006-03-29 19:29:31

    I've got one, possibly both coming....

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 5:35 PM (EST)

    I have almost no interest in this Atreyu review, but why no review for Love Equals Death or The Sainte Catherines' new albums?

    -phdecontrol

    Posted by dreux on 2006-03-29 15:38:43

    This band is absolutely fucking terrible, and some 17-year-old's poorly-written, hype-smattered review isn't going to change that.

    Years from now, these guys will be lying to their kids about what they did with the best years of their lives so they don't risk said kids finding an old Atreyu CD. 'Cause, hell, if I was in Atreyu and my kid heard the music I spent serious time and money making, I wouldn't blame him for never respecting me again.

    "I feel it welling up inside and Robert Smith lied
    Boys do cry and with blood tears in my eyes
    I'm an Anne Rice novel come to life
    I can't hide the monster anymore"

    The above could only POSSIBLY be considered good if it were about masturbation.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 3:31 PM (EST)

    Holy shit? Have you lost your fucking mind!?

    How dare you give this shit a decent review AND read this site?

    Fuck off, all of you. Fuck off. This band is a pox, a fucking cancer on music.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 3:31 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    wheres the review from devil dogs 30 sizzling slabs
    Atreyu hoho

    Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2006-03-29 13:43:40

    i swear, the majority of the atreyu supporters must never come to this site.

    so far, the .orgers have been called "emo girl-pants wearing fags," and now, "hipsters."

    i can't wait for the first person to tell us to go listen to our falloutboys and cry about ex gf's. it's going to happen. you just wait.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 1:33 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    It's a good CD. It won't change anybody's life but it's not supposed to. Not everything has to be Interpol, or Pelican or Minus the Bear, or whatever it is you have to listen to to have "cred" these days.

    It's just one big chocolate sundae of a record. Very enjoyable.

    You hipsters can go choke on your PBRs.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-29 12:22:29

    **bleeding through**

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-29 12:09:33

    A majority of my 'hating' reviews are reviewed by someone else first...

    My Bleeding THroh and In Flames review that each got 2/10 were done by Aubin and my Hawthorne Heights and From First to Lasts 1/10 were handled by Brian.

    Posted by sickboi on 2006-03-29 12:05:19

    A fucking 9.

    Cram it in your cramhole.

    I haven't listened to much of this band, but I've heard enough to understand why some of their fans are rabid, but this isn't "nearly perfect". Its tolerable at best, with hints of excellent musicianship.

    Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2006-03-29 12:05:09

    well, we both can submit a review and depending on how different/similar they are, the .org could post both, one, or neither. worth a shot.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-29 12:03:25

    I already wrote a review, but it comes out the 18th I think.

    Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2006-03-29 11:56:48

    fine. i'll write my own review for it. when's the re issue coming out?

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-29 11:53:02

    Well I listened to Aidens pre-Victory release and it has the un-f'd up version of 'Knife Blood Nightmare,' but there are still loads of problems.

    'I Set My Friends on Fire?' Please...

    And while it is better than 'Nightmare Anatomy,' my tastes have changed slightly since reviewing NA, and that'd def. get a 1/10 by me now instead of a 2/10.

    Posted by tylerdurden8136 on 2006-03-29 11:49:52
    My Score:

    the greatest thing about all the spam and hate comments are the "girl pants wearing" slander. apparently the "hardcore" atreyu fans don't realize that the majority of their fans wear girl pants.

    and i'm allowed to say that because two years ago i was listening to atreyu while wearing said piece of clothing. oh the shame.

    and crazytoledo, while you're allowed your opinion, don't you think that a 9 is just a bit much for this album? i mean, shit, it would be the same thing if i were to review the next My Chem album and give it a 9 1/2 or 10.

    also, i read a comment of yours and how you're going to review Our Gang's Dark Oath and give it a "one." now, i realize that Aiden's new album deserved around that score, but their previous, non-Victory release was at least somewhat decent and deserves a better score (around a 4 1/2 or 5 out of 10).

    so please review with some objectivity and not just to cater to the casual readers that come to this site.

    although i must admit, it took some balls to post this review.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 11:02 AM (EST)

    let me be the first to say that everything you spit in this review is absolutely bullshit.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-29 10:48:26

    Score is for the review. How about you actually review more than two songs off the album. One of which is the single we have all already heard. No one cares how much you like Atreyu. Stick to reviewing the material not giving your opinion on the band as a whole.

    I have heard the entire release and I do review the entire release, you dont have to name drop every song to cover it. Covering influences or the style is the equivalent of going over songs.

    And boy is that spam sad as hell.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:11 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    note to anyone who likes this band: Stop.note note to anyone who likes this band: Stop.note to anyone who likes this band: Stop.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 9:39 AM (EST)

    Can we just ban that dickpig's IP already? This thread now has more code than fucking windows XP.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 9:04 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    Score is for the review. How about you actually review more than two songs off the album. One of which is the single we have all already heard. No one cares how much you like Atreyu. Stick to reviewing the material not giving your opinion on the band as a whole.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 8:50 AM (EST)

    Generic music horrrrbile!!!, bring the mosh bahhh fuck this shit. Total posers in the real sense. To the idiot spamming you have terrible taste in muisc so why don't you shut the fuck up.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 8:19 AM (EST)

    fuck that, this cd is amazing, it shows how a band can change and make it sound amazing, so fuck bashing this band, they're doing better than you'll ever do

    Posted by darkstarm on 2006-03-29 07:44:04

    Dear Will,

    I doubt you actually went to the website. Because right on the bottom of the page, right below (like, the next line down, you would have to be brain dead to not see it) the MP3 you would have had to listen to to decide we blow is an e-mail address. it in fact says "e-mail chris at blahblah@blah.com" so please shut the fuck up.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 5:45 AM (EST)
    My Score:

    You cunts are faggots, almost as bad as those losers with myspace accounts. Every CD that gets review you talk shit. QQ more emo fgts

    Posted by colin on 2006-03-29 05:03:30

    aubin, adam, or justin-

    could we get an admin to delete the spammed comments below? it's far less censorship than it is common decency to the rest of us.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 4:33 AM (EST)

    we're all doomed.. DOOMED! DOOOMED!!

    Posted by almostpunkenough on 2006-03-29 04:06:19

    holy shit. now THAT is spamming.

    and this album sucks.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 3:09 AM (EST)

    what the fuck?

    Posted by iconoclast on 2006-03-29 01:45:35

    doomed fucking doomed.

    hahaha word.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 12:26 AM (EST)

    atrey-who!?

    omgz! i rule.

    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 12:18 AM (EST)

    Darkstarm,

    You left no email. And I didn't see one on your web site. And your band blows. You get no help setting up a show from me.

    -Will

    Posted by kindofalongwaydown on 2006-03-29 00:10:56

    Atreyu is shit. Pure shit. A big, fat, swirly, bad musical turd that took wayyyyy to long to digest to begin with.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 11:41 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    if this is one of 2006's top albums then we're all doomed.

    doomed fucking doomed.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 10:56 PM (EST)

    ew

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 10:49 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This is sad. Let's have a fallout over something so pointless.

    Some people really don't have lives...

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2006-03-28 22:47:08

    sweet

    Posted by darkstarm on 2006-03-28 22:13:57

    "The album art definitely SUFFERs from unoriginality..."

    nice. haha.

    Posted by darkstarm on 2006-03-28 22:13:06

    "darkstarm -- did they sign to "get the message out"? That's a good one. Or is it "I wanted to make a living on music." Did they say "What's more punk- working 2 jobs, or being able to live off playing music". You know how I know I'm not punk? -- Real punks starve."

    Again keep in mind this is not something I would do. Just not something I will condemn:

    Imagine if you will, you're approached by a kid who has tattoos of your band's lyrics on his body. He admires your music in every way, and he happens to be in a band that is really shitty. He is however, very rich, and without your band his probably would not even exist. He says to you he'll give you all the resources you like and all the freedom you like to make a record. What do you say to that? Fuck off kid, no I don't think I deserve to finally make money off of my band that's finally gotten its dues almost a decade later? Or maybe yeah sure I'll take your money, and make a bitchin' new record. Again, this is just hypothetical so whatever. Starving sucks, by the way. By the way, as far as I know most of the guys in Lifetime are over 30, married, and some of 'em have kids. So take that into account as well.

    "Well it's hard to set up a show for a band whose name I don't know. I guess you're just proving how uninvolved and out of touch you are that you think the idea of people setting up shows in their hometown is so outrageous."

    My band's name is Scream Poet, Scream!. We play in the style of Chicago Jawbreaker influenced pop-punk meets the DC post-hardcore sound, pretty much. Our website is www.screampoetscream.com. We need a show in the first week of July. If a band needs a show in return, I currently run/help book three all ages spaces in Chicago. And.... GO.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 10:07 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    The album art definitely SUFFERs from unoriginality...

    Score is for my joke.

    Posted by feeeding5000 on 2006-03-28 21:37:46

    darkstarm -- did they sign to "get the message out"? That's a good one. Or is it "I wanted to make a living on music." Did they say "What's more punk- working 2 jobs, or being able to live off playing music". You know how I know I'm not punk? -- Real punks starve.

    Posted by Testiclese on 2006-03-28 21:32:46

    fuck this shit, get the new ghostface

    Posted by feeeding5000 on 2006-03-28 21:32:26

    C'mon people...let's stop the fighting. Just because one person likes something you don't, doesn't make it bad. Now, Atreyu makes this music because that's their favorite kind of music to listen to. From their (metal-based?) musical background, it's alright to steal from children. They're okay with that. They think it's cool. If you don't like it, then just...don't listen to it. You can't get rid of crap-core, but you can ignore it. "Your only choice is to spit or swallow", but you still have to suck the cock. I, for one, choose to spit it in their eyes.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 9:14 PM (EST)

    "How's that tour date coming along, young William?"

    Well it's hard to set up a show for a band whose name I don't know. I guess you're just proving how uninvolved and out of touch you are that you think the idea of people setting up shows in their hometown is so outrageous.

    -Will

    Posted by NoControl on 2006-03-28 20:38:01

    here is Atreyu's formula. Catchy choruses shitty inaudible roaring grunting verses=$$$$

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-28 20:32:07

    ...yet other reviews for the band got also got an 8 and 9.

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2006-03-28 20:30:53
    My Score:

    I think its more "retarded" that you post reviews on a website where no one does anything but talk shit on them.

    Posted by omfgfaggotry on 2006-03-28 20:27:02

    i think the reviewer just said he was in 11th grade..

    i guess that explains why he likes this LP... this stuff is geared for high school kids. he'll grow up one day, its all good.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 7:59 PM (EST)

    "Probably the only Victory album I've been able to get into in the last 5 years. Some instrumental parts remind me of SST. Yes, the vocals are bad, but the music itself is impressive.

    -Will"

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-28 19:44:06

    The fact that you think I suck because of my opinion on music is fucking retarded.

    So bitch about my opinion if your going to, not that I really give a crap, I don't write reviews to satisfy the user base for a certain site, so why should I curve my opinion to make you happy.

    I could honestly care less what you think about my review(s).

    Posted by GreenVandal on 2006-03-28 19:37:13
    My Score:

    "As for reviews I saw in published magazines, AP gave it a 4 out of 5 and Outburnl gave it a 10 out of 10. And via that one body mass scale I'm right at the top of 'average' weight, so I'm not fat. And I've either played basketball, had something planned to do somewhere, or it's been bad weather almost every day the last few weeks, I don't live on the computer."

    I dont even think this quote needs explaining. How fucking stupid are you? Well thats great, your par for the course with alternative fucking press.

    PLEASE STOP SUBMITTING REVIEWS HERE, NO ONE LIKES THEM.

    Go find some other stupid metal core site so you can at least have some bros chiming in about how much they agree with you about how killer Atreyu and Twelve Tribes are.

    Score is for you.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 7:29 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    Probably the only Victory album I've been able to get into in the last 5 years. Some instrumental parts remind me of SST. Yes, the vocals are bad, but the music itself is impressive.

    -Will

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-28 19:25:37

    Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-28 18:35:09

    at least he gave a one to the aiden's album


    If all goes well their reissue should get a just as shitty review.

    :)

    Posted by crazytoledo on 2006-03-28 19:25:08

    i mean cmon... this dude isnt some A&R exec... hes a fat kid who posts reviews of shit bands. his opinion means nothing, he knows nothing about music.

    As for reviews I saw in published magazines, AP gave it a 4 out of 5 and Outburnl gave it a 10 out of 10. And via that one body mass scale I'm right at the top of 'average' weight, so I'm not fat. And I've either played basketball, had something planned to do somewhere, or it's been bad weather almost every day the last few weeks, I don't live on the computer.

    Same review on absolutepunk.net

    With a 'originally written for punknews.org.

    Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-28 17:30:24

    "while i do hate atreyu, who the fuck do you think guides pitchfork?"

    Dude, what's worse is that this crazytoledo guy is gonna probably graduate 10th grade, get into Neutral Milk Hotel and become a full fledged hipster by grade 12. Then, in college, he will begin writing for Pitchfork hyping the latest trend.

    Probably not, considering that I'm in 11th grade and am going to do something in the computer and networking field.

    Posted by darkstarm on 2006-03-28 19:24:22

    "I asked Dan Yemin yesterday and he explained that "integrity is just retarded." Shouldn't you be glad for the signing, though? I know you were all super hyped about Against Me goin' Sire, and they were previously an actual underground band."

    First, I was never "super hyped" about Against Me! going to Sire. I saw WHY they did it, and funny enough in the post-signing interview I read with Warren he gave the exact same reasoning I proposed about that signing. Against Me! was structinized with every single step they have taken as a band, got fed up with it, and took the money because they realized there was nothing they could do to please the underground punk-rule book crowd like you.

    This has not been the case for Lifetime. They broke up before they could do anything too be scrutinized about, yes, but the fact remains that the majority of their fanbase is NOT the Fall Out Boy crowd. However...

    My initial comments about Lifetime were made in haste. Much like the Against Me! situation I can see why Lifetime has signed to FBR. I wouldn't do it, but I understand the motivation. It isn't something I would do, true, but I can see how it happened.

    How's that tour date coming along, young William?

    Posted by rkl on 2006-03-28 19:20:58

    funny that someone talks (negatively, i think)about girlpants while defending atreyu

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 7:10 PM (EST)

    I'm going to go listen to the lawerence arms now.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 7:02 PM (EST)

    I'll admit it. Their first album on Victory was pretty decent.

    But they are heading straight towards glam-rock. And it's not a good thing either.

    Ramo

    Posted by mattp330 on 2006-03-28 19:00:37

    better then The Curse, a step down from Suicide Notes. really not that bad at all, the ballad is really something awful though. i usually don't mind songs like that from metal bands, i liked Line in the Sand off the new bleeding through disc, this one don't float though

    Posted by jumptheshark on 2006-03-28 18:44:39

    hahaha fucketeer was just using emo as an insult against people for ripping on atreyu...god i love irony

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 6:35 PM (EST)

    at least he gave a one to the aiden's album

    Posted by iconoclast on 2006-03-28 18:03:59

    oh, and for the record, this album is no potemkin city limits.

    Posted by iconoclast on 2006-03-28 18:02:21

    umm..fucketeer......if you like the band so much, then you shouldnt give a fuck if people bash them. if you like em, you like em, who gives a fuck if people on here voice their opposing opinions. your letting that make you a bit too mad i reckon. and perhaps this site might not be for you. we all talk shit on here. and most the time its just fun and games. dont take it all so seriously duuuuuude.

    Posted by Fucketeer on 2006-03-28 17:53:29

    Ok I shouldn't really care this much about correcting a whole fucking lot of blabbering vaginas but I do. Obviously all of you have your tight emo girl pants on too tight because your bloody pmsing is stinking up this post. Get fucking real girls. Comments shouldn't be made to talk shit about a band and then attempt to tell everyone why you are right. No body reading this post gives a flying fuck what ratings you fuck hats gave your little shitty bum shit bands that only you know about. DO you want a mfing cookie? because i seriously could care fucking less. So if you all are going to sit in your dark reefer infested shithole rooms and bash anyone who takes the time to read a good review about a great band how about you take a 5 minute break and go masturbate to your latest issue of (gay emo mag here). If you don't like Atreyu then don't come here and try to convince us sane persons that Atreyu sux. And go bloody fuck yourselves already.
    Album: 7 solid stars bitches (would have been 8 or 9 if Her Portrait in Black was on it)

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 5:45 PM (EST)

    Atreyu has evolved.

    They keep getting shittier and shittier with every record.

    Posted by iconoclast on 2006-03-28 17:31:31

    is it just me, or are people settling for shittier and shittier music? but then again, that is all relative to one's opinion. but still. it seems like people are to me.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 5:30 PM (EST)

    "while i do hate atreyu, who the fuck do you think guides pitchfork?"

    Dude, what's worse is that this crazytoledo guy is gonna probably graduate 10th grade, get into Neutral Milk Hotel and become a full fledged hipster by grade 12. Then, in college, he will begin writing for Pitchfork hyping the latest trend.

    -Will

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 5:28 PM (EST)

    Isn't Atreyu that band that signed to Havoc Records yesterday?

    Oh no, wait, that was Lifetime... signing to DeGAYdance.

    "In regards to Lifetime: what happened to integrity?"

    I asked Dan Yemin yesterday and he explained that "integrity is just retarded." Shouldn't you be glad for the signing, though? I know you were all super hyped about Against Me goin' Sire, and they were previously an actual underground band.

    -Will

    Posted by rkl on 2006-03-28 17:15:49

    Atreyu - A Death-Grip on Yesterday
    Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-28 13:05:16
    My Score:

    I'm never taking another review on this site seriously. This band, this record, this label is everythung that is wrong with "indie" music.

    I will only read pitchfork reviews from now on. Fuck this teenage bullshit.

    while i do hate atreyu, who the fuck do you think guides pitchfork?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 5:10 PM (EST)

    "Jesus Christ you are all a bunch of fucking babies. Who knew that the "punk rock" thing to do in 2006 would be to use the computer your parents bought you to go on line and bitch because someone has a different opinion than you... You aren't punk you pussies, get over it..."

    anyone find the irony in this post?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 5:03 PM (EST)

    Fuck this band, Fuck Victory records...I seriously cannot believe that people would actually like this heaping pile of horse shit.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 4:56 PM (EST)

    Same review on absolutepunk.net

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 4:53 PM (EST)

    Jesus Christ you are all a bunch of fucking babies. Who knew that the "punk rock" thing to do in 2006 would be to use the computer your parents bought you to go on line and bitch because someone has a different opinion than you... You aren't punk you pussies, get over it...

    Posted by rubyx on 2006-03-28 16:44:44
    My Score:

    FUCK etwiels88!!!!!

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2006-03-28 16:43:58

    hey, i still like their first album a bit. sort of a guilty pleasure but they weren't that bad for what they were doing. i would never really need more than one album of cheesey iron maiden-ripping metalcore and why would i want more from the group when they get cheesier and cheesier. still stand by the enjoyability of the first album. i'd have to give it a 5 or 6.

    believe, i have friends that like this shit, i hear it and it gets worse and worse.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 4:35 PM (EST)

    why do people on the internet make a big deal about what some kid who posts on a 'punk' website thinks?

    i mean cmon... this dude isnt some A&R exec... hes a fat kid who posts reviews of shit bands. his opinion means nothing, he knows nothing about music.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 4:15 PM (EST)

    damn! i was too late for that joke..

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 4:15 PM (EST)

    a 9 on this? come on, now this is the real april fools joke.. fuck the lifetime stint!

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:55 PM (EST)

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2006-03-28 15:42:53

    it's a bit too early for this april fool's joke


    and

    by ElVaquero on Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 3:04:36 PM (EST) (User Info)
    http://elotroladodelburro.tripod.com/

    once again, i like atreyu.

    ....feeeel the hate.


    atreyu hasnt changed that much in the last 2 years? why the change in opinion about the band?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:52 PM (EST)

    yeah, its gay, but who isnt nowadays?

    K = place(A,B,[-.3 -.3 -.4 -.4 -.5 -.5 -.6 -.65]);

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:47 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This album has been getting good reviews everywhere, so there is no need to talk shit on punknews about it. it might actually be decent, even though a 9 is probably a bit much. i have a feeling it will be a solid 7.

    and to those people talking shit on Victory, sure, tony seems like a jackass and the way the promote sttuff and jump on trends is ridiculous, but to be honest, aside from the roster of crap, victory also has a small group of really really solid bands

    Posted by ElVaquero on 2006-03-28 15:42:53

    it's a bit too early for this april fool's joke

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:32 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    you guys are the worst babies ever
    this is a very solid cd and I enjoyed it alot
    8 for me

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:32 PM (EST)

    hhahahahaha.
    remember when he gave lovehatehero 4 and a half stars?

    Posted by Klonny on 2006-03-28 15:26:48

    Hey hey, kids! 9 points? Yeah, hey, man, buddy, right here buddy. Blow me. Atreyu doesn't even deserve a 5.

    Posted by colin on 2006-03-28 15:26:01

    Err, you just gave that shitty boysetsfire a album 9.

    You're just a fan boy to shitty bands that are "acceptable" to the people on this site.


    i stated i wasn't a fan of boysetsfire in the review, especially prior to the record.

    the bsf record takes many different influences and - with almost complete success - merges them with their sound.

    i could go on defending my score, but i think if you actually take a second to read my review, you can try and pick it apart in that thread. i'm no fanboy.

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:17 PM (EST)
    My Score:

    This is ridicoulous, 4 and a half stars?!! Yeah right

    Posted by elliot on 2006-03-28 15:03:22

    hey i bet this is worth a 9! sounds right!

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:01 PM (EST)

    Is this guy working for Victory's street team?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:01 PM (EST)

    What exactly is so punk or hardcore about thie piece of shit album? Give me a break, these guys are the ultimate throw away band. You can interchange them with FATA or any other horrible sing / scream band and not miss a beat. Bottom line bands like this bring nothing new or even credible to the table.
    LAME

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 3:00 PM (EST)

    Kid Dynamite's s/t deserves a 9

    AFI's Black Sails in the Sunset deserves a 9

    Refused's The Shape of Punk to Come deserves a 9

    Guess what doesn't deserve a 9?

    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 2:49 PM (EST)

    Err, you just gave that shitty boysetsfire a album 9.

    You're just a fan boy to shitty bands that are "acceptable" to the people on this site.

    With that being said, this band is awful.

    Posted by colin on 2006-03-28 14:45:17

    I see your point Colin, but we don't all sit down and discuss the ratings of individual reviews together. My ratings are relative to myself, and that's about the only way to manage it because otherwise, every review would turn into a big ordinal debate (is X better than Y, if so....)

    We'd end up with weird fractions, that's for sure.


    i agree... but i still think a hint of objectivity should come into reviews. scores of 8, 9, and 10 should be for bands that are reinventing something - whether it's their own sound, or a sound in general, or a way of approaching music... or, if it's just sort of the 'epitome' of what a band is about.

    maybe for an atreyu record this is a 9, but then you have to put atreyu sort of in the bin of metalcore bands that aren't really pushing much of a sound. i've heard this record a few times, and i do think it's better than previous efforts, but it lacks in the way a band like PMFS reinvent their sound but still keep it real every album.

    even if you're just com