hmmmm........good album. I like it.

shitty band. this album sucks.

This album is so fucking good.

This album was supposed to be the album where Saves The Day goes back to its roots, and I didn't feel like it did. This was not the effort I was looking for. I will always be a fan of Can't Slow Down, Through Being Cool Saves the day, with all its energy, but I am not a big fan of Sound The Alarm Saves The Day. If your friend has it, get a burnt copy. Not worth buying.

I'm so glad this album wasn't a disappointment.
And I definitely like "The End" the most.

Good review, Colin.

not fantastic, but im just happy this doesnt sound like the last 3 albums. Steve Evetts should be the only one allowed to produce their records

cant slow down- amazing album.

through being cool- amazing album

stay what you are- different, but still amazing

In reverie- a huge bag of shit, worse cd ive ever heard in my life

sound the alarm- some good shit, some bad shit, overall okay cd

i think the stand out track is eulogy.
i was much more impressed with this album than i thought i would be.
it's definately not the saves the day i remember, but there are reminders of that time on the album. small ones, but they are there.
i can hear the maturity on this album and i like it. my biggest complaint is how short of an album it is. overall, it's great.

i love saves the day and i had high hopes for this but it just isnt that great...its not bad but not great.... :*(

how short was your paper? jeez. papers take me a full day at least.

I couldn't believe how short this album was. I was typing a paper and i listened to it and by the time I was halfway through the paper it was done playing. It can't be much more than a half hour if even that. But it is still pretty good

well done. it gets better the more you listen to it.

best album since "through being cool"

damn that sux about the waste show, when i saw them there were people just hanging from the ceiling, throwing beer, waste calling people up to do beer bongs, surfboards it was insane.

score is for dazed being a douchebag

Saves the Day was great when I was 17 and got Through Being Cool, my hormones were still way off the fucking chart. I can't really listen to their old stuff anymore, though, my life/attitude took a much more negative vibe when I realized I still hated everyone in college and I began to prefer faster angrier music. It's weird cause I used to really love this band but it's just painful to listen to them now, I can't even get a nostalgic kick out of it. That said, they're good at what they do and if it didn't bring up memories of how pathetic I was as a teenager I could probably stand to listen to them.

As for dancing that two-stepping nonsense is like uncoordinated skanking and kids who stomp and swing their fists around in unison look like some crazy cult of stupidity, kind of like juggaloes or something. It's not hard to see who's an asshole and who's having fun within reason at shows. There's no absolute scale to what's right and wrong, it's just kind of a consensus. Even the stupid goofy hXc dancing I just described can be appropriate if it's not making anyone not enjoy the show. I saw Municipal Waste a little while back in Gainesville and there were only 5-10 people who wanted to mosh so it was kind of minimal... I would have gone crazy if a big circle pit opened up but I'm not gonna be an asshole and try to pull people into one if they'd rather sip beer and do half-assed headbanging. Score's for the Waste shit-talking the crowd for being lame, though.

i liked "In Reverie". that doesn't make me a bad person.

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"...as well as their striking good looks"

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PINK HAIR !!

"Band members don't do it 7 times a show"

Ever seen Dillinger Escape Plan?

Yeah - In 2000, when I came close to being set on fire for being up front for some fire breathing over the crowd. I'm tall.

I think the best thing they've done is "Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven", followed closely by "Drag In D Flat". That Vagrant comp had their best work is what I'm trying to say. I really liked Stay What You Are. I think it was more of a let down because it had to follow those two songs, rather than following Through Being Cool (which was also awesome).

so true, i completely agree. i remember being so incredibly excited and then let down when stay what you are came over, even though i enjoyed it overall.

everyone is going to have their own opinions about what is "appropriate" at a "hardcore show" which i think even in itself needs to be defined. going to see terror or throwdown is entirely different from going to see orchid or pg 99 although both would most likely be considered "hardcore music". i think crowd surfers and jock moshing is the fucking stupidest thing done only by fat bros who don't even have enough talent to dance, or "dance" i suppose. but everyone has their own opinions i guess.

i loved in reverie. i thought the lyrics were great, especially what went wrong. i thought his voice was nice and mellow/smooth. and the guitar work was outstanding.

I agree that this is an album, not a collection of songs...nothing really stands out above the rest, no obvious single or singles. but its a hell of a fun 35 minute ride, at times it'll call up 'cant slow down' nostalgia ("bones" outro) at times it recalls 'stay what you are' (dying day reminds me a lot of certain tragedy) and at times it sounds like an evil 'in reverie'....or at least in reverie if it had the shot of adrenaline it needed so desperately in about 75% of its tracks.

theres really not one weak track, and no stand outs. just a solid album. connely is more aggressive than he's been since 'cant slow down', musically and vocally, but in a more mature way. lyrically, its much closer to 'through being cool' and 'stay what you are'...

i love it...no its not nearly as mind blowing as 'through being cool' was when i was 20 or 'stay what you are' was when i was 21...those albums defined my early adulthood (not that 25 is old) and early college days in so many ways, good and bad. but its better than in reverie...miles better, and i actually LIKED parts of in reverie (tomorrow to late is amazing). its on par w/ 'cant slow down' in a different kind of way.

give it a shot.

Paul

"Band members don't do it 7 times a show"

Ever seen Dillinger Escape Plan?

colin: ok. i guess your comment needed explaining because, "well, it's pretty good for THEM" just doesn't sound right to me, you know?

and for the record i only have the first two std records. i'd rather just listen to lifetime.

that's not so bad, because you can always say no. the worst is when they start climbing up you OR when they are surfing behind you and, as they are getting passed forwards, come crashing down on your head, spraining your neck.

I'm not a big guy, but I can understand how the shit can get annoying for those that are. I'll usually see one big guy (at least 6'2" and 200lbs) that kids will CONSTANTLY ask through the show to boost them up. I bet it gets really fucking annoying.

And we're changing it by ripping off the shoes of repeat offenders, refusing to put up anyone who is on their third surf, dropping people like a hot potato, and pulling down others.

Band members don't do it 7 times a show.

You want to go up. Fine. Hooray for you. You're special. Just don't expect to do it all night long.

We're talking about the dipshits that keep wanting to be boosted up, then want people to carry them around. Over and over and over again.

Stage diving is fine, riding it a little is fine. That's it.

To the people bitching about stage diving and crowd surfing...

What about when the band does it? Do you care then? All of this stuff is gonna be at shows. To compain about it isnt going to change much.

It's part of the show really.

-benz

Also, does anyone else hear any similarities between Sound the Alarm (the song) and Tomorrow Too Late...is it just me or does Sound the Alarms a little like Tomorrow Too Late, but with a lot more oomph!!

First listen...kinda meh.

After a few listens...can't get enough of it--especially Sound the Alarm and Bones.

Fuck....here

The score is for Skanking

when Saves The Day was playing songs off Stay What You Are when I saw them the other week, there was a pit. I didn't think I'd see it for an STD show, especially for their slower songs. I refused to lift this fat girl up and throw her onto some unsuspecting people enjoying the show up front. got the finger for that one.

the solution, go to ska shows. not as many douchebags and you can skank. as stupid as skanking is, it is good harmless fun and gives you an excuse to look like an idiot when you dance.

you bothered by crowdsurfers? how about not helping them up when you get that tap on the shoulder? crazy, i know.

Sure, that's easy and I refuse to help anyone up, ever, as a general rule, but it's not as simple as just ending there.

I consistently get surfers (lifted up by others), falling down on my head, needing to be pushed/carried along, or someone falling down and needing to be picked off the ground. You're free to dance however you want, but once what you're doing takes up a significant amount of my time, takes me away from the band I paid to see, and cracks me in the head, then you're a jerkface.

you bothered by crowdsurfers? how about not helping them up when you get that tap on the shoulder? crazy, i know.

hardcore dancing is straight up retarded. end of discussion. circle pits can look silly but at least everyone can join in and you can protect yourself to some degree if someone is crashing into you and getting out of hand. hardcore dancing you can't be anywhere near the pit because somebody can just wack you across the face. it's an exclusionary, much more dangerous and formulaic type of expression and limited to douchebags who you know practiced this shit at home in front of a mirror. it's got no business at punk shows and if you're doing that, then you're an asshole. i saw some sick of it all jackholes do that when they toured with suicide machines.

so in conclusion, circle pits>>>>>hardcore dancing and both being infinitely >>>>>>>>>>crowd surfing.

i'm gonna go hit the gym now.

the only good pit is a circle pit in my opinion. seriously if you wanna have the funnest time of your life go see municipal waste. they put on the most amazing show complete with beer bongs, surf boards and circle pits what more could you want. saw them at the first unitarian church and people were jumping off the high pa speakers with the surf boards. just all around incredible show.

Anchors shoes are mine!!!

Anchors, I'm specifically saying that crowd surfers (particularly repeat offenders who keep on trying to go up) are not mindful of those who are around them. I think it's bullshit that smaller people think it's okay to keep on going up. You're still making me lift you, you're still relying on me saving your ass, and you're still making me keep on checking over my shoulder and ducking out of the way in case you come down on my head. So, you deserve to lose your shoes and get pulled down. Get over it and let people enjoy themselves. You're not more important. And if you keep on trying to dive off the stage, we're going to let your selfish ass fall and then we're going to laugh. I've been to tons of Syracuse shows (though 5-6 years ago) and the kids are fine. But crowd surfers are fucking irritating.

I just don't agree with this attitude at all. I don't think anyone is trying to act "more important" by trying to get to the stage, they just want to be able to have fun and stage dive at a hardcore show, which I'd much, much rather have kids do than dance. I'm not going to get into the whole "hardcore is about community" mantra, but honestly, the selfish attitude is the guy thinking "I'll let the stage diver fall." If you don't want to deal with stage divers, stay away from the front. You KNOW kids will be diving at hardcore shows, there's no excuse to complain about it if you want to stand there. You should be helping these kids get to the stage, helping them right the fuck back up if they fall, that's what hardcore is about, here anyhow. I don't so much care about myself, I can handle my own, but I'm sure a lot of the younger kids in 'Cuse love knowing they can come to a show, and if they fall down in the pit or stage diving, there's always somebody that's going to help them up and make sure they're okay.

That's not true a lot of other places I've seen shows in. Kids get hurt and nobody cares. That has no place in a hardcore scene.

The point is this, if you're near the front at a hardcore show, you have no right to bitch about stage diving or crowd surfing. This isn't some tough guy "if you don't wanna get hit stay out of the pit" mentality, it's common sense. Kids in the front want to grab the mic, stage dive, pile on, really get the full experience of a hardcore show. You don't have to do any of that, but you should understand that plenty of peolpe do, and not think of them as "inconveniencing" you.

"moshing (the real kind) > push moshing."

You are a fucking asstard.

Circle Pit or Die.

Saves the Day - Sound the Alarm
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-04-12 00:37:50

yeah mosh pits are fucking awesome. a bunch of huge frat guys running around pushing each other, no matter what song it is, trying to knock each other down, so they can put their arms up outside the venue and say they're "the baddest bitch."

get back to the gym, and get out of my scene.

hardcore dancing > moshing.
thats not at all what moshing is about. its an expression of enjoyment of the music, picking people up when they fall, no one is trying to knock anyone down.
we were moshing when victory records still had good bands, i.e. before you kids started worshiping it.
id tell you to grow up, but thats still another 7 years in the making.

Anchors, I'm specifically saying that crowd surfers (particularly repeat offenders who keep on trying to go up) are not mindful of those who are around them. I think it's bullshit that smaller people think it's okay to keep on going up. You're still making me lift you, you're still relying on me saving your ass, and you're still making me keep on checking over my shoulder and ducking out of the way in case you come down on my head. So, you deserve to lose your shoes and get pulled down. Get over it and let people enjoy themselves. You're not more important. And if you keep on trying to dive off the stage, we're going to let your selfish ass fall and then we're going to laugh. I've been to tons of Syracuse shows (though 5-6 years ago) and the kids are fine. But crowd surfers are fucking irritating.

4 stars!? saves the day has seriously lost their niche. some of the faster songs are good, but those melodic emo songs just make me groan.

Eh, I can see where you're coming from on the crowd surfing thing, but I really feel like it ultimately depends on the environment. Hardcore shows is where I always see this, and that's fine. If you're a small dude, and want to get to stage, pushing through people packed in like sardines isn't really an option. And in a lot of venues, there is no side of the stage to run around to, you have to get on from the front.

Big kids crowd surfing are shitheads, I agree. But like the Ignite show I refrenced earlier. I was fairly close to the stage, and I'd feel a kid grab my shoulder and hoist himself up to get to the stage, that's fine. As long as they aren't kicking like they're in a fucking lap pool, they're posing no immediate threat to me. But I really think stage diving is the most fun thing to do at a show. Booking across the stage and launching yourself into the crowd, it's just fun. Like you said, if you're a big kid, be mindful of others and there will be no issues.

The problems come when a big kid stage dives and takes out some tough guy, they get uppity about it, and then a fight breaks out. I can't remember ever seeing a fight at a Syracuse show, and not to be arrogant or anything, but we just get along here and respect each other for the most part, but I've been to shows other places where kids throw down over the stupidest bullshit.

I could go on forever about hardcore dancing, and these fake ass gangsta tough guys, and who knows what else, but I think no matter the show or bands, if you're mindful of who's around you, no problems will be had.

Through Being Cool is easily their best, in my opinion. This is good, too.

The thing about In Reverie is that if Chris sang similar to Stay What You Are, that album would have blown through the charts and they'd all be much richer. The melodies, music, and lyrics are great, but his voice can be too much at times.

Exactly. You wanna do that shit, do like everyone else: make your way up fron, climb the side of the stage, run across (quickly, don't stop to try to sing along) and jump off.

This isn't fucking Pearl Jam. You're not meant to be lifted up and carried around like some fucking Pharoah.

Sickboi is absolutely right.

Crowd surfers are pieces of shit. You're trying to watch a band and you get cracked in the head by a bunch of asshounds. I was at the Kid Dynamite reunion show at CBGB's and I'm with my friends, dancing and jumping around, and just trying to watch the show and sing along, etc. And the same three or four kids kept on surfing over and knocking everyone in the heads and neck. And then they're clawing around. Meanwhile, I'm a big dude (6'4", 210), so when they fall to the ground, I have to push hard to box out and help them up all the time, because, obviously, I don't want anyone to get hurt. And these little fucking bastards, who have clocked you in the head numerous times AND didn't get stomped on because you saved their ass, tap you on the shoulder during the middle of your favorite song because they want you to stop paying attention to the show and lift them up, AGAIN. I'd even be willing to grant every individual ONE free ride up top, but it's always been (I'm going to go back 8 years to Bigwig / Vision / H20) the same handful of people who keep on going up time after time. These pesky motherfuckers are essentially saying "hi, my experience here is way more important than yours, so I'm going to encroach on you and ask you to make a lot of compromises to get the experience I want." Do whatever you want on your own, but if you take that presumptuous holier than thou attitude into my pit, and keep on doing it, oblivious to others, I'm still going to pull you up when you fall, but I'll pull your ass down, refuse to put you up, allow you to fall, and if I'm really sour, I'll rip off your shoe.

Anchors, maybe I'll see you around.

I forgot to say that even though I think this is a good record, even the B-Sides off of In Reverie were catchier than most of this.

In Reverie is what made me like Saves the Day. Now I enjoy all their albums. Chris' voice has never bothered me. Not even on "She."

Anchors -

Stage diving is ok. I don't impose the weight limit factor on that. Unless you're fucking 225 and keep doing it every 5 minutes. Fuck that.

I'm talking about crowd surfing. That shit is ultra lame.

"Boost me up dude." Its the pussy way of stage diving.

Of course, when someone stage dives, upon being caught and maybe tossed for a sec, they should get down. I hate those stupid fucks that try to ride it all over.

if a crowd surfer comes over me i just punch them in the gut.

one time at the e factory in philly some kid was going up to crowd surf..he was running to his friends who were going to launch him onto unsuspecting people. so i tripped the fat bastard as he ran. stupid fuck.

"This is STD's 2nd worst album. It's better than "In Reverie", but what wouldn't have been? It's still a far cry from Can't Slow Down (easily their best in my opinion), Through Being Cool, and even Stay What You Are."

I agree 100%. Their albums have gotten steadily worse, but this one is actually a step up from In Reverie, which, like you said, doesn't say much.

after listening to this one a few times, i have to say its a pretty decent return to form for them. the singing grates a bit at first, but its not bad at all once you get used to it.

I like it, the urgency is back in his voice.

i went to the troc lifetime show, and kids were two stepping all over the place. and just seeing kids not fighting, but getting along and helping each other up and putting their arms around kids they dont even know and singing these songs was fucking awesome.

i think organized two stepping is nothing but an expression for the music. running around pushing each other to see who falls over first is fucking retarded.

moshing (the real kind) > push moshing.

There's nothing wrong with crowd surfing. Unless you're seeing Iron & Wine or something.

But at a hardcore show, there's should be infinitely more stage diving and crowd surfing, infinitely less dancing. The Ignite show from a few weeks back was one of the most fun I have ever been to, and that was a fucking stage dive heaven. Right away a few of my friends got on stage on all fours, and for the next 4 hours there was hundreds of kids just launching themselves into the crowd. It was amazing, no bullshit. If crowd surfers annoy you, stay away from the front. If you're going to be in the front at a hardcore show, you know what to expect, so you have no right to bitch.

I also think the weight limitation is kind of stupid. I'm 5'10, 160lb, and if nobody larger than me was allowed to stage dive, there would be a lotttt less of it at shows. Granted, some kids know they're too large to stage dive and try anyhow, and they should be yanked, but for the most part, a weight limit is a stupid idea.

This is of course irrelevant if you're not talking about hardcore shows.

This is STD's 2nd worst album. It's better than "In Reverie", but what wouldn't have been? It's still a far cry from Can't Slow Down (easily their best in my opinion), Through Being Cool, and even Stay What You Are. It is a good attempt and at least they're getting back on the right track, but still not an album I'd recommend for older STD fans.

That's my 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth.

- 25-year-old punker (age included so you have a better idea of where I'm coming from)

can someone please explain to me how you cannot like in reverie, I really dont understand.

We have a weight limit limitation on crowd surfers. 160lbs....thats it, and make it quick.

Anyone over that gets pulled down.

And fat dudes need to stop stage diving. We'll let you get away with it once or twice, but keep that shit up and we'll actually move and move people with us to let your tubby ass bounce off the floor.

Anchors, nice story of "marker justice" in Syracuse. It's funny that you mention that, because my friends in Syracuse (I used to live in upstate NY) got so sick and tired of getting cracked in the head by crowd surfers that if someone kept going up and slamming into them and kept asking to be lifted up, they started taking off the surfer's shoes and throwing them or simply removing the shoes and putting them in a bag or something.

Great moment was a 2001 NFG show when the band actually asked on the kid's behalf for the shoe in between songs.

The shoe still sits on a mantel.

I actually liked In Reverie

"No one has talked about the artwork yet.

Disappointing."

Oh God, I know. It's really shitty. Score is for the artwork.

I give the album an 8.

If you're gonna embarass yourself at a Saves the Day show by hardcore dancing, you should be doing it in the nude and on tape. It should be a performance... or a public humiliation, either way.

mosh pits are dumb, hardcore dancing is dumber. Why does it have to be organized? I like when everyone is just pushing up and surging around and general chaos is happening anyway.

-benz

don't worry colin, i got your back. saves the day is a hate it or love it band. i like everything they've released (even In Reverie), but I think ever since their last album there has been huge anti-Saves the Day backlash.

-benz

boy do i have some light at the end of the tunnel,for those with limewire,search for- brand new, song title-cleanser,its gonna blow yer minds,also all those other results that come up are what you think they are:)

Another vote for "Bones"; fun song.

No one has talked about the artwork yet.

Disappointing.

moshpits> hardcore dancing

ok i was with you up until this. what the fuck does that mean? for saves the day it's four stars? part of music is comparing this record's importance and quality in comparison to other bands and other records. especially at this stage in the band's career. by this frame of logic the local TBS rip-off band down the block should be getting 4 stars cause they're good for a derivitive piece of shit band.

without going too much into my reviewing process, usually when i review an album or give it a grade, i consider a few things:

1. how the band shapes up in context of the scene as it is. in this case, saves the day has been a fairly constant band that is ripped off more than they rip others off (with the one glaring exception of lifetime).

2. how the album compares to the bands previous efforts.

3. how the album compares to efforts of comparable bands.

with all this in mind i think it's 4 stars.

listen, it's rough trying to take everything in mind when reviewing cds. i can't well compare this to a bright eyes album, a bad religion album, and a weezer album all in the context of five stars, so i use my best judgement as to the strength of the record versus what else is out there at the same time, with taking what the band has previously done into account.

"'m saying that for saves the day, it's a four star effort."

ok i was with you up until this. what the fuck does that mean? for saves the day it's four stars? part of music is comparing this record's importance and quality in comparison to other bands and other records. especially at this stage in the band's career. by this frame of logic the local TBS rip-off band down the block should be getting 4 stars cause they're good for a derivitive piece of shit band.

also, hardcore dancing is silly. it's dumber than skanking, and skanking is pretty dumb.

(yes, i can make fun of skanking cause i used to and still do that stupid shit all the time. it's so silly, please do not try and argue this.)

There's no difference between dancing and moshing. There is a difference between two stepping, and being the asshole cartwheeling across the pit or trying to be Jean Claude Van Damn.

All hardcore dancing looks stupid, but as long as you're not purposely hurting anyone else, hey, go for it.

""yeah mosh pits are fucking awesome. a bunch of huge frat guys running around pushing each other, no matter what song it is, trying to knock each other down, so they can put their arms up outside the venue and say they're "the baddest bitch."""

hrm...sounds like 'hardcore dancing' to me

some of us like going to the shows to see the band, not to watch a bunch of fucking monkeys 'dancing' or whatever the hell it's called. go to a fucking dojo or something.

yeah mosh pits are fucking awesome. a bunch of huge frat guys running around pushing each other, no matter what song it is, trying to knock each other down, so they can put their arms up outside the venue and say they're "the baddest bitch."

get back to the gym, and get out of my scene.

hardcore dancing > moshing.

hardcore dancing or whatever is the dumbest thing on the planet. mosh pits are cool. the end.

In regards to hardcore dancing, a friend of mine here in Syracuse started this thing called "marker justice." The premise is this; some kid is dancing like a prick in the pit, trying to be a ninja, crowd punching, what have you, you take a permanent marker and tag his shirt, leg, arm, whatever.

This way they get the hint to stop being a shithead without any unnecessary physical confrontation. Plus, it's just flat out hilarious.

Anybody else thinks much of this sounds like Silent Drive's "Love is worth it" ???? I do, and that is such a good thing.

Oh, and I thought On A Wire was a great GUK album.

-benz

Still like this band.

-benz

Does Chris still have that problem where he shits a lot?
Because that's what this sounds like.

Yeah... these guys were decent when they were a Lifetime ripoff band...

-opivy

The breakdown on "Head for the Hills" is reminiscent of Through Being Cool, while the music sounds like a more aggressive Stay What You Are.

Very true statement i say....this album is great and i think fans who liked SWYA will love this CD! 4 stars is bang on!

they also took down the hilary duff review and she has a better punk voice than the saves the day singer.

"They'll never write another song better than "Banned From The Back Porch," though."

I think the best thing they've done is "Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven", followed closely by "Drag In D Flat". That Vagrant comp had their best work is what I'm trying to say. I really liked Stay What You Are. I think it was more of a let down because it had to follow those two songs, rather than following Through Being Cool (which was also awesome).

I love it for what it is. An aggressive, in your face, thematic, rock record.

"The two titles say it all. In Reverie is like you're in a dream-like state, and Sound the Alarm is 'wake the fuck up.'"

""you mean a bouncer actually did a good thing for once. did anyone else notice how all the hardcore kids now wear gym shorts i guess they were tired of ripping thier girl pants. these kids need to pick up a real hardcore album not this bullshit tough guy nonsense any one can play an open chord for 20 mins. i suggest listeing to cant relate by caustic christ. and remember kids as the great band the spark says "circle pits, not karate kicks". there is just somthing about kicking girls and starting fights at shows that i just dont appreciate but for some reason these "harrrrdcore" kids love""

clap clap clap.
score is for boucers who kick out the fucking 'dancers'

Why not. They already took "my" 2 Bigwig reviews down.

-Chinatown

amen brother

Yo Colin, Chinatown doesn't approve, better ask Adam, Aubin, or Brian to take the review down!

Fo' serious though, I like this record. And I think more than anything, there's something to be said for a band who can write 5 full lengths in 8 years, and all have them be pretty distinct in their sound.

They'll never write another song better than "Banned From The Back Porch," though.

Score is for the album when it's fast.

'bones' is a fucking rockin' tune.

Saves the Day =/= Hardcore

you mean a bouncer actually did a good thing for once. did anyone else notice how all the hardcore kids now wear gym shorts i guess they were tired of ripping thier girl pants. these kids need to pick up a real hardcore album not this bullshit tough guy nonsense any one can play an open chord for 20 mins. i suggest listeing to cant relate by caustic christ. and remember kids as the great band the spark says "circle pits, not karate kicks". there is just somthing about kicking girls and starting fights at shows that i just dont appreciate but for some reason these "harrrrdcore" kids love

i just bought it. listened through it. didnt like it at all. I dont understand why he made his voice sound like someones hitting him with a bat the entire time. I was really open to this cd but im just not liking it. THere was one song that i actually drew my attention. Its the only song htat has a fast beat section. forgot its name though because it still sucked. Youd think he'd learn from his mistakes on In Reverie. Guess not.

I think the thing with Saves The Day is that, by now, you're either a fan or you're not. This record isn't trying to make new fans-- it's showing the band coming back full force and doing what they do best. With that said, I think this is a very strong effort after In Reverie, which I didn't think was that bad to begin with.

'Stay What You Are' is a hard listen for me. Not really into this music.

However, the new Ryans Hope CD is really good. They remind heavily of Pennywise from the song I heard.

Haven't heard this album but the songs from it were painful to listen to live

just bought album, my first impression is that it it 80% out of 100. I don't know if it can top there first 3 albums. I enjoyed the last part of the song bones alot, i wish they could just go back to that old skool style. Saves the Day records take a while to grow on me, but once they do they stick forever. I had this CD in my hand and Smoke or Fire and I choose this, I hope I made the right choice. All in all it's good to see STD back, and I will catch them on Warped for sure.

fuck 'dancing'

congrats to the bouncer.

this first song sounds exactly like something id expect radiohead to do.

This, along with anti-flag were the two really questionable releases thus far of this year...in my humble opinoin, anti-flag had a surprisingly good release, and this STD album sucks balls. His voice...how can ppl think its an improvement. Id actually take in reverie over the high pitched awkward sounding voice over fairly standard guitar work.

where the hell is the devil dogs review

music's good, dude's vocals are awful

because of how much i liked these guys before in reverie, im willing to give this album a chance.

the review, and the debate it's caused, have made me that much more willing to be open to this album. i'd really like to dig these guys again... what can i say? i'm nostalgic for my early high school days.

I was never really interested in this band, but when I listened to this album on the AOL stream, I really wasn't interested

anybody that does not appreciate this band, but likes lifetime, is nothing more than an elitist asshole.

you're funny.

better than in reverie, but nowhere near as good as anything else they've put out.

1. anybody that calls in reverie a weezer rip-off needs to listen to more than one song on that album.

2. one of the signatures of this band was to put morbid lyrics to upbeat poppy songs. i don't consider that a fault, i consider it originality.

3. as stated by many others, his voice has always had a love it or hate it quality. nothing different on this release.

4. they played banned from the back porch when i saw them live. that song is tits.

Just a congratulations to everyone. These are quite possibly the dumbest comments I've read under a review here.
But, good review, Colin. I disagree with some of it, so I may write a more negative one. Maybe not. Still, It's way better than In Reverie.

Not an amazing album, but it's still pretty good.

In Reverie is probably their second best album. There's a lot there that people overlook because of his vocals (which are annoying on some songs on that album).

The thing is, those same people love Nofx, and don't overlook those shitty vocals.

fuck anybody that talks shit about this band. if you think you're too punk for saves the day, you're a fucking asshole. go listen to nofx and shut up.

can't slow down is amazing. through being cool is one of the most complete records in this genre. stay what you are is also amazing. in reverie sucked dick - nothing more than a terrible weezer ripoff cd.

and now we have sound the alarm, another amazing piece of music from chris.

anybody that does not appreciate this band, but likes lifetime, is nothing more than an elitist asshole.

and to the guy who applauded the bouncers for grabbing kids by the throad for doing that "two step bullshit," fuck you.

start appreciating hardcore.

you can dance to lifetime, and you can dance to old saves the day. it's no DTN, but it's hardcore nonetheless.

and i'll be at bamboozle for both sets. and i'll be two stepping. come grab me by the throat, bitch.

this album is awful. a step back. really forced, stupid snotty singing style.

in reverie was awesome, sounded like of montreal.

This is no Oh! Calcutta! you're right, that's a lawrence arms record. how perceptive. truth be told the 4 stars is for a saves the day album. i am not comparing this to the lawrence arms or moneen. i'm saying that for saves the day, it's a four star effort.

"Awesome record. The haters never got it and love to talk about how they never got it. 'Like, I don't get this, so there must be something wrong with you. ' "

I've noticed that only people with bad taste in music use the term "haters."

punknews.org needs to review the new Kings of Leon album!!!

Awful, awful band. For shame, Colin.

-Chinatown

""I'm not a fan of Saves The Day but that equation doesn't make sense. A "C" "B-" is probably "C ". You'd need to include some other factor to explain how the record is overall worse than the music and lyrics.
-Dante"""

yeah i fucked up, my bad. i'm a history major. i hate math. it should have been a C. and when i was writing it i couldn't think of anything else to grade it on. so yeah. 'my bad'
-derek

This is no Oh! Calcutta!

i was loving this album when it leaked
but after i picked it up today and gave it a couple more listens it just doesn't seem so great anymore
it's decent but fairly medicore
and some of the album sounds like billy talent

the red tree > sound the alarm

Haha, works for me. Like I said I'm not really a fan anyhow.
-Dante

Lives Up to Hype and Expectation: F

There, that makes your C-.

lyrics: C
music: B-
overall: C-

i really expected better. whats with the fast part in the one song?

I'm not a fan of Saves The Day but that equation doesn't make sense. A "C" "B-" is probably "C ". You'd need to include some other factor to explain how the record is overall worse than the music and lyrics.
-Dante

amazing cd, this band reinvents themselves with every release. just saw them live about a week ago and was also amazing till these dumbasses took it upon themselves to start doing all that gay 2-stepping bull shit the bouncers grabed the kids by the neck and through them across the floor. i had never liked bouncers till now keep that shit outta concerts. anyway solid release

lyrics: C
music: B-
overall: C-

i really expected better. whats with the fast part in the one song?

I've listened to this record a few times now, and I don't know how I feel about liking it as much as I do. I normally try not to listen to "whiny voice/'heavy' music" varieties, but you know, it's as solid as my shit and I haven't eaten bran in years.

While I'm not one to defend STD (can't stand em), I think putting in references to your older lyrics is a clever way to say to your older fans that you're "back".

The self-deprecation hasn't gone anywhere, as heard in the marvelous breakdown during 'The End'

Hmmm... well, Colin, that's one way to put it.

Lyrics from "The End" from Sound the Alarm:
I'm a danger to myself / always blaming someone else / Got a grenade in my mouth and my finger on the pin / ready to rip it out.

Lyrics from "As Your Ghost Takes Flight" from Stay What You Are:
You've got a grenade stuck in your teeth and you're pulling at the pin. / You're an illusion, just a shadow flickering underneath the sun.

They're not taking Hilary Duff's spot on the Asskicking Stage.

"The good of this record is just about the entire thing."

Probably should have caught this sentence in the ol' proofreading process.

fuck this shit.

So wait, his voice is still annoying and some of the songs aren't that good? But it still gets FOUR stars?

maybe you misunderstood the review - his voice isn't as annoying, but it's not what it used to be. also, i only mentioned one song that really falters. the rest, in my opinion, are outstanding.

proud because you didn't give this album four stars? this cd is outstanding. while oberst maybe your high school sister's wet dream, he's still an amazing songwriter and can put together great albums.

yes, i know. "lifted" is a five star album for me. i think bright eyes is amazing. i don't think that album was.

So wait, his voice is still annoying and some of the songs aren't that good? But it still gets FOUR stars?

And the THREE Avail albums get a half star more, huh?

Yeah. Right.

"bright eyes - i'm wide awake, it's morning"

proud because you didn't give this album four stars? this cd is outstanding. while oberst maybe your high school sister's wet dream, he's still an amazing songwriter and can put together great albums.

If i didn't like Stay What You Are and didn't even pay attention to the last record . . . should I give this one a try . . . kids?

Good album.

Good review.

I liked his voice when it sounded like Justin Sane. I swear, there are some old songs where you could switch the vocalists and not notice.

devil dogs -30 sizzling slabs...where is the review???

I'm kinda bummed my review didn't get posted.
I spent like 30 minutes on that thing! Even HTML'd and proofread!

Anyways, I gave it 3 stars. This'll get traded in at Criminal Records for sure!

Can't Slow Down may be a Lifetime rip-off, but it still kicks ass! Everything else they've done sucks.
Carp

Put the hatorade away, this sucks more cock than Ryan Seacrest.

Seacrest Out!

Yeah, this album has a really urgent feel to it.

"I'm a danger to myself / always blaming someone else / Got a colostomy bag bag on my side and my finger in my ass / ready to rip it out"

That kid has some real problems. Maybe he should go smoke a joint.

chris' voice has not sounded like this on every album. when i first heard this thing, i didn't believe it was saves the day, because his voice is so ridiculously high. and apparently that's how he sings now. whatever.

They've always sucked, face it.

Awesome record. The haters never got it and love to talk about how they never got it. "Like, I don't get this, so there must be something wrong with you. "

"as if any minute through the listen a certain tragedy will strike."

Hah!

Whining about Chris' voice in Saves The Day review is so 1998. Seriously, it's been like that for all their releases, if you don't like it now, you never will.

I really can't stand his voice now...

I am just beginning this album right now, and two minutes into the first track I just let out a very vocal and lame "fuck yeah." And I'm not even a teenager.

4 stars..wow...i give em 2.5 and theiy re lucky..

I've had this for some time and while it's not terrible, it hasn't really grabbed me yet. It's just kind of there.

i'm the biggest saves the day fan,i've been waiting for the days when they would start playing faster again,i've listened to this album like 8 times still can't get into it i'm sure there will be alot of backlash after people go and buy this,nothing memorable here

i wrote this band off long ago too, but this actually makes me wanna hear it. good job.

I cannot wait to buy this tomorrow morning!!

How 'bout a fuckin' Jesu review huh?!?!?!?

Uh, On A Wire was amazing. Guilt Show was just ok.

To the person below me:

I liked Guilt Show a shitload. I thought it was a very solid release by GUK...now on the other hand on a wire sucked.

I'm really excited to pick this up after class this morning. Can't wait.

Score is for OzmanX's mom.

i wasn't going to comment on it during the review, simply because i didn't have enough opinions gathered, but i have found now - and this pretty much proves it - this seems to be a love it or hate it / make it or break it kind of record for the band. a few people i talked to when it leaked thought it was just what the band needed to do, and others though it was exactly what they shouldn't have done.

....

pretty solid album

I don't get how anybody could think the vocals on this record are any sort of improvement.

colin we almost always agree, but i disagree here

this album fucking sucks, so bad

3/10 for the two good songs near the end, the title track and "bones"

also, judging from how the guys in this band look now, they deserve a 0/10

pink hair? chris conley why are you such a little bitchass

This is just awful. This is their version of "Guilt Show" and "Reactionary" by The Get Up Kids and Face to Face.

They may redeem themselves and release one final good album like Face to Face or break up after this release. It's time to move on.

Stay What You Are was the only worthwhile album they released anyhow..

Not meant as a personal attack on you Colin, you're actually usually pretty fair. I actually could see this being a 4 star album. It's just that pretty much everything got a 4 star review this week, and everything mediocre always does.

eh, sorry if i was snappy. i didn't mean to be, and i figured it wasn't a personal attack... but, unfortunately, opinions are like assholes: everyone has one. if someone gives something a four star review... well, that's their deal. most people don't review albums just to give them a shitty score, which is probably why you usually see a lot of sites giving good reviews. to be honest, the staff level reviews are usually pretty on key, at least in their objectivity.

this album is such a fucking letdown.

Way way better than In Rev. I think it's their 2nd best album

i never really understood the attraction of this band. they always seemed like a mall punk band who never quite made it

Not meant as a personal attack on you Colin, you're actually usually pretty fair. I actually could see this being a 4 star album. It's just that pretty much everything got a 4 star review this week, and everything mediocre always does.

It's bad enough that I thought STD was a Lifetime ripoff but when they released In Reveire, man I thought I would never hear this band again.

However, I have to admit that Sound The Alarm is full of energy. It didn't blow me away but Saves The Day proved to me that they're not down and out.

Ramo

can't wait to pick this up tomorrow.

Not saying this is a bad album, as I haven't heard it, but when pretty much everything here gets 4 plus stars (including shit you KNOW is horrid), you really can't trust anything anyone says here.

albums i have not given four stars to:

bright eyes - i'm wide awake, it's morning
coheed and cambria - good apollo
my chemical romance - three cheers
taking back sunday - where you want to be
jimmy eat world - stay on my side tonight
saves the day - ups and downs
straylight run - both teh ep and full length

please do research before you make a snap judgement. this is a solid record. the only review i've ever done that i wish i could rescore was the network record.

Getting a 4 Star review at this website is about as difficult as getting a blow job from a fat girl.

Not saying this is a bad album, as I haven't heard it, but when pretty much everything here gets 4 plus stars (including shit you KNOW is horrid), you really can't trust anything anyone says here.

This pretty much completes the band's rebirth: Their most diverse, creative effort yet, hands down. I'm also quietly trying to decide if it's their best overall since Through Being Cool, even though Chris' vocals are pretty weird at times. That I actually have this debate going on in my mind is a feat in itself, though.

i like it