If you dance you will enjoy this album. If your some fag who sits there and headbangs or pushmoshes (which is an excuse for fags to touch eachothers balls) then you dont matter

Wow, just wow.

I'm for whatever people want to do, but in the end, 'pushmoshes' are far more 'br00tal' then hardcore dancing. Hardcore dancers really aren't supposed to hit each other, so there's 'supposed' to be no contact...even though that never happens. A legit mosh pit is probably gonna be a lot more crazier then hardcore dancing.

Then again, having a pit go back and forth between pushing and hardcore dancing...while people in the front push, middle hardcore dance...add in a circle pit and a wall of death somewhere in the bands set...thats how crowds should react.

Especially since so many bands have breakdowns, so even bands that warrant a mosh pit have parts where kids can dance too.

Posted by civeta_dei on 2007-11-22 14:47:07
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this is an AMAZING band talk shit about them ill fucking kill you

What I dislike about bands like these is that they think they play Hardcore, Which, in reality, it isn't hardcore isn't breakdowns and bree bree bree chugga chugga WEEE. Hardcore is fast aggresive punk. If you want good hardcore, start with the bands who opened the gates: Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Cro-mags, Black flag, etc.

One of the better bands to come from victory

and no disrespect to ct. hardcore. You guys pump out some good stuff, even if you think these guys suck.

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 11:28 PM (EDT)
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If you dance you will enjoy this album. If your some fag who sits there and headbangs or pushmoshes (which is an excuse for fags to touch eachothers balls) then you dont matter

Posted by moneenerd on 2007-04-11 05:27:48
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they just played my town and sucked it big time. Acacia Strain rip off's up and down.

Highlight of this album: Chappelle show song titles.

yo this album is not that bad. i dig real crazy technical shit but this is just a fun heavy album.

also, i thoughtt hey lived in queens ny. i have friends from there who used to chill with them and endwell all the time.

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 10:43 PM (EDT)
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More shit for stupid hardcore dancers to have seizures to.

Do you guys realize 99% of the shit you people listen to are nothing but 30 minutes of breakdowns? Its like soloing is a fucking sin for you fags.

i like all the punk/rock faggots thinking their opinion means anything on a message board keep your comment to your own genre of music...and watch this band get huge

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 10, 2007 at 4:42 AM (EST)
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this is the sound of apes making jock rock for tough guys. fuck this stupid, unoriginal chugga chugga breakdown shit.

Define "right"

They're making poor metalcore for dumbass kids who are into trendy breakdown death imagery bullshit. Britney Spears and Clay Aiken sell shit loads of albums too. Guess they're doing something right!!!

douchebag.

every single one of you make yourselves look like bitches whining and complaining on a message board over a band....i dont give a fuck but i guess theyre doing something right...the more you talk the bigger they get

Actually, it was just one guy, and it was me!

4 dudes? it was 2 dudes... I was one of them

fuck this band.

fuck you dude. HOW COME EMMURE BACKED DOWN TO 4 FUCKING DUDES!!!!! in ct. faggots...go die.

hahaha that guy 2 below me is deff either in this band or sucking there dicks...i live in ny and i know that there shows are full of a bunch of fags that want there dicks..its that tough guy bull shit..the only reason they got signed is because of there connections...same shit with there boyfriends in endwell

these guys can kick rocks

You guys are all faggots everyone from ct can suck my dick and die.. None of those ct kids will every show their face at any of emmures out f state shows in fear of getting the shit kicked out of them..... You all talk shit... But wont leave the security of the shithole you call home ct... All you mother fuckers are jealous.. This band has worked its ass off for years regaurdless if you like them or not.. Have some respect.... Theyve acheived something that noone on this message board or any of you ct haters will ever get to experience.... They must be doing something right if all you faggot motherfuckers are talking so much shit about them..... All i can hope for is ct gets wiped off the face of thise planet along with all their stupid crews. Maybe then the abnoxious whining will stop from you bitches...... Why does ct hate them anyway? Jealousy and envy?? And the fact that 99 percent of bands to come from that shithole are failurs and never amount to anything???... Hatebreed, bhbs, emmure, atfs, and with honor are the only bands to ever achieve any kind of success... Out of the thousands of hardcore bands in ct.... Yet you pride yourself on your scene.. Fuck your stupid scene you faggots. You wanna see generic? Go to any hardcore show in that state all the bands are a shitty little joke they all have the same shitty 2 step into shitty breakdown, with shitty equipment an dthey sound like a bunch of 15 year olds trying to write music in their basement its a fucking joke and these are the kids who are hating on emmure haha...... Emmure packs clubs everywhere from california to canada to new york.... And get respected and make friends everywhere and i know this for a fact... Looks to me like this message board is full of fucking idiots and people who are just jealous... Grow up!!!!

Yo, this record is what it is...I dig it...it's better than bury your dead and the acacia strain combined and all that other bullshit you faggots listen to! it's actually the heaviest cd i've heard probably since...hmm...let's see if you know it all faggot ct kids know this one...BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED. fuck hardcore and fuck your haterade. if it wasn't for bands like hamartia, and bhbs and hatebreed 10 years back i could have given a shit less if your little dick state burned to the fucking ground.

band sucks

this band sucks my dick

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 7, 2007 at 11:35 PM (EST)
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I know its already been said, but why would a label sign a band that isnt even welcome in their home state!! I can't even believe this is a real band its so bad

hopefully this band doesnt even make a second cd! by far one of the worst releases victory has ever put out.

Ew, I had to see these guys live once. Sooo bad. Generic tough guy/victory records bullshit.

Is it really a breakdown if it lasts the whole song?

As a cthc kid this band is a complete joke. They are fake dudes in a fake band. They don't support ct and ct will never support them. THIS BAND ISN'T ALLOWED TO PLAY CT. so fuck them and fuck victory records, they got bad when they dropped OLC!

well this is not hardcore...maybe it's not metal either, but it's an embarassment to be associated with hardcore.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 6, 2007 at 11:26 PM (EST)
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Whoa Glass Pipe Murder! Don't be calling this garbage metal. You guys may think that metal ruined hardcore, but I think it's the other way around......Score is for bands like this ruining metal, like they have for the past 6 years.

"What I think is funny is that nobody makes the true comparison of who they sound like: The Acacia Strain."

Yeah, I was surprised this review didn't say anything about them. I listened to most of this album once in the car with a friend of mine last week. The first three or four tracks were pretty enjoyable, if only for the absurdity of the constant breakdowns, and the fact that those breakdowns are always in diminished fifths. Definitely not an album you can listen to for more than 20 minutes though. The rest of it was incredibly boring. Kind of like a comedian repeating the same joke over and over in different ways.

Also, aren't most breakdowns in metalcore open chugging and not strictly dissonant chords? I mean, that's why I don't think this should be considered as generic as, say, Dead to Fall. Lame claim, I know, but as a guitarist I find dissonant breakdowns much more enjoyable, and as a result, less generic. I don't listen to too much metalcore though, so maybe I'm missing out. God forbid..

fuck this band. they fuckin suck. i hate the kids who love them and think they know shit about hardcore. fuck em

For the most part I think hardcore has always been a joke.

the only reason hardcore has a bad name is because of VICTORY RECORDS. crazytoledo, hardcore is far from a big joke. if we hated every punk genre because the majority of the more accessible (bigger labels) bands were crap, then alternative music period would be a "big joke". look beyond what HMV is able to throw at you for 20$ a pop, and go check out bands like Career Suicide, Cloak/Dagger, and even Ambitions, and see what real hardcore is.

i repeat: this is not hardcore. this is shitty shit-metal. Victory can do much better than this; I got the early Victory Style II, III and IV and they are much better than this crap.

why not have any breakdowns?

Crazytoledo- Sorry...I was under the impression that you had some sort of vendetta against Victory, and felt it necessary to give every new Victory release a score of four or lower. I guess I was wrong. If most of the recent stuff is bad, then why even bother?
-feeeding5000

CRAZYTOLEDO: STOP REVIEWING VICTORY RELEASES. Oh, and "Emmure? More like Manure! LOL amirite?"

I LIKE VICTORY RECORDS.

Apparently I have to resort to use all caps to get my point across, just like you.

It just happens that a lot of the newer releases are generic.

Posted by Electrickle on 2007-03-06 11:45:50
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Bands should be limited to only 3 breakdowns per album, better yet, don't have any breakdowns.

lol, i saw the fucking dumbass cover art, and without even reading anything i knew it was a victory release.

CRAZYTOLEDO: STOP REVIEWING VICTORY RELEASES. Oh, and "Emmure? More like Manure! LOL amirite?"
-feeeding5000

When i saw this album cover on thew main page I thought it was a wikked tight wizerd or some shit.

TOTALLY DISAPOINTED.

"this is just another reason why hardcore is become nothing more than a big joke."

Than quit being jaded fucks and go out and find out about more bands. Discounting hardcore after listening to this is like deciding metal sucks after listening to Poison.

-Will

What I think is funny is that nobody makes the ture comparison of who they sound like: The Acacia Strain.

This is a great CD, but its flaws are its shortness and its feable attempt to pad it by having the said 50 second intro track as a seperate song listing, as well as "Travis Bickle" which is nothing more than 2 minutes of ambience. The last song also has a bunch of filler at the end.

What I would've liked: Same sound, same writing, but about 2 or three more FULL songs totalling about 36 minutes for the entire album with NO filler. Hell, they released a great EP awhile back no one will ever hear due to the obscure label that put it out. They should've rerecorded a couple of these songs instead of adding the filler. That would've ben somehwat more acceptable at least...

Posted by GlassPipeMurder on 2007-03-06 00:22:54
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this is really awful. i heard this band was hardcore...definitely heard wrong.