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Published on July 10th 2007
An album as anticipated as this one is daunting to approach. It's tempting to write some sort of treatise on Against Me!'s place in the punk scene (if there is one), the nature of independent versus major labels, the "punk ghetto," and a whole heft of other topics. The one thing that all of these topics -- which are sure to be covered here, there and elsewhere -- miss the real point, which is the music.
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It is a great record, so could someone please tell me why they hate it. Sadly, I agree with you on saying most of the things or I can at least see where you're coming from when making each point. I do like some of the songs, but I think the album as whole fails and lacks something vital. Fuckin' Butch Vig. It may not be their best work, but god damnit if it doesn't stick. Great review. Again, terrible album. Horrible review for a great record This reviewer didn't get it and clearly didn't try to. Like many people have said, to me it's not the fact that they sold out that makes me dislike the album. I could care less and I know most of us would gladly accept more money for doing what they've been doing all along. This reviewer doesn't know very much about music does he. they used to be the most punk motherfuckers around This is a good review. the album is awful, the review is good, the band members suck Has no one noticed that "Thrash Unreal" sounds exactly like "Tom Courtenay" by Yo La Tengo? Good album..... but it's just not the Against Me! mentality.... All I have to say is that I'm pretty tired of the punk community downing on others for success. I've been in to these guys for a while now. About six or seven years. Whenever Crime! came out. I think it was 2001. Anyway, that's beside the point. I've been delighted to watch Against Me! grow. I think their music now is just as intuitive and has just as much to say as before. People have trouble accepting that Against Me! up to Reinventing Axl Rose is not the same Against Me! we see today. And I don't mean that in terms of their ideals and beliefs. I mean that in terms of anarchists per capita. Gabel intended to take the current Against Me! to a level not known by the original lineup. Why do you think the lineup changed in the first place? In any case, anyone who says that they have become everything they hate hasn't done their research. Yeah, they play huge venues, but big deal. People talk about self-obsession being a big thing with the band these days and then talk about how "Reinventing Axl Rose" is about Against Me!. Isn't that self-obsession? Besides, they've even said that the song is not necessarily about themselves. Just about where they came from. Gabel still helps me get in to shows for free. Plus, they've been playing benefit shows for very credible organizations and have not accepted any sponsors. And don't even talk about seeing their shit on TV. Who gives a shit? Everyone knows the label has control over that. Against Me! is doing exactly what they wanna do, regardless of what the fans or anyone else thinks. Last I checked, that's the opposite of selling out. iv been an against me fan for many years but i think this album is very bland. ya i was pissed when against me joined a major label, but the reason was because i knew they would be ruined, just like AFI. Many bands on i feel are pressured to make something everyone will like and end up making music that isnt truly from the soul. which i think is what music is about. so fuck all you kids who give old against me fans shit because if you guys were fans of against me when we were you would feel the same way. amazing from start to finish. i apologize for any negative comment i've said before about against me.....i used to think tom's voice sounded like someone gargling a piece of shit, but this band has grown to be one of my favorites. Fuck the haters. i feel that their next album and its content will really prove their direction and hearts. hopefully it's better and longer. This album didn't suck casue its better than most shit, but certainly could have been better. YOu telling me they couldn't have thrown 1 or 2 acoustics near the end and make it a 12 track? So this is definitly better then Searching for a former clarity. That last comment was just way too funny/cliche. This album is fantastic. Dear Tom Gabel, what are you haters talking about this this the best album that theyve ever made Only ten tracks doesn't give you much margin for error. Half this album is catchy and pleasing to listen to, the other half is mediocre at best. The lyrics are pretty ordinary, and any remnants of the acoustic/folk AM! have been left behind. Score is for using cell phone service as a metaphor for a relationship on the duet song. i like it a lot. Thrash Unreal gives me goosebumps everytime i hear it. every song is lyrically amazing whether the tune is great or not, it's poetry in a way... you have to give that some credit. The Ocean is fucking brilliant. i'm gone. What a spot-on review. There seems to be a lot of people commenting to the effect that people should 'just talk about the record, not the band and their actions' etc.. but the whole point and beauty of punk rock is that its not just muzak for the drive to work. It matters absolutely what the band does, says and stands for in relation to their record. The two are not disassociated from each other. If people wanted mindless, meaningless pap sung by retards, the shelves of Virgin are stacked with it. This difference is doubly important when the band used to be so outspoken and representative of DIY punk rock values as AM! were. I didn't like this album at all at first. It has grown on me a lot more, but it still has some weak tracks. New Wave is pretty good, but pretty boring after a while. The chorus just isn't good enough to be played over and over. Up the Cuts is probably my favorite song on the entire album. I believe it has a traditional Against Me! sound, but less screaming. The chorus really makes the song. Thrash unreal is a great song but gets to be a bit much after the second time they play the chorus. White People for peace is a decent traditional song. Stop is a song you either like or hate very much. Borne on the fm waves is okay i guess. It never really goes anywhere, but it's pretty catchy. Piss and vinegar has a decent intro then pretty much sucks. Americans Abroad is pretty cool, but they couldv'e done more to it i think. Animal is just kind of weird for me. I dont really like it at all. The ocean is a pretty good song and definitly a grower. But besides all of the that I was really glad to find Toms voice to have gotten a lot better and not as raspy sounding oppose to searching for a former clarity. Honestly, the first time I listened to this I wasn't that impressed. After seeing them live again and hearing the songs from this in that setting I like them a lot more. It took me a few listens to get into the album and I still think there's some weak tracks but overall its pretty solid and not deserving of a lot of the shit its been getting. "against me! seems to have sadly become the biggest joke in punk. i s'pose we'll never know why they decided to "go for it", but maybe this is an example of what not to do. oh yeah, and anti-flag, a far inferior band had a much more impressive major label debut. somethin's wrong with that." I've got to disagree with the review. best review i have read and i felt the same way about new wave. i have never been looking as foward to an album coming out before and i felt very let down by it. but i must admit the more i listing to it the more i like it. nothing better than scott ripping on justing in the firsts few posts when justin wrote in my opinion, a good review in which he stated his points clearly. you dont have to agree with them. grow up scott and lose some weight. Pitchfork gave this record a better score than Punknews!!!!!!!!! Im suprised that nobody has commented that Stop sounds (stylistically) very similar to Unprotected Sex and White People sounds quite a bit like From Her Lips. Both Stop and Unprotected sex remind me of Franz Ferdinand, in a bad way. Might just be me, but this pissed me off just as much as the lack of decent lyrics or accoustic guitars. And Animal may even be the worst song i've ever heard. Lazy. Lets hope they can make another great record a few years from now disappointment. huge disappointment. so glad I saw this band twice before this thing came out so i didnt have to hear any of these songs. i've come to the conclusion that this album would be a pretty solid 7 if they had put the two b-sides on this While I certainly feel this is AM!'s weakest release I think that most of the bad reviews are based more on how people feel about the band and not the album itself. Like most of you I was disappointed with this release the first time I heard it. But then again I was disappointed with both Searching (always makes me think of JEW when people refer to it as Clarity) and Cowboy upon first listen. I don't know what all the "cool kids" are complaining about . . . this album is pretty solid. There is a handful of really good tracks: "New Wave", "Up The Cuts", "Thrash Unreal", "White People For Peace", "Piss & Vinegar". I enjoyed the album. I would've been sweet if they had mixed the Disco Before the Breakdown EP with Crimes and wrote songs based on that but this is good stuff too. They're not one of my favourite bands since the change in sound but I still like it. I've listened to New Wave a few times now and think it's great. This is the first time AM really sounds like a full band hitting on every note together. This album will be looked back on as one of their best right with RAR. Frankly I'm glad that Against Me continues to grow up. Sure, I like them more when they were in their Reinventing/Eternal Cowboy stage but I cant stand it when band sound the exact same on every album. The world only needs one AC/DC. Thank god Against Me isnt following in their footsteps and rewriting Walking is Still Honest over and over again. being one of those kids that have followed these guys for years from the 1st time i saw them play on the flatbed of a truck, i wanted to throw in a few words. Going in, I knew it was gonna be produced, i knew the old Against Me! was gone and I'd have to rely on Searching For A Former Clarity as the last official album before it all went public. "Scott clearly wouldn't care about them watering down and selling out - after all, he's done the same thing. Zing!" score is for when tom gabel drank my parents beer and threw my puppies in the microwave on high while shouting "gremlins!!!!" "not a fan of the production, where's the bass? Best review I've ever fucking read on this site. Well worded, well written, well done. I think the album is barely better then Justin gave it credit for, but Animal and Ocean are shit tracks. the last 2 sentences of that review would have earned an A in any journalism class. it gave me a headache, but i'm old and cranky. that being said, why is everyone here afraid to continue to embrace a band that they all claimed to "love" about a year ago. once in a while bands do make records that step a bit from their "sound" in an attempt to reach further audiences and yes, to sell a bunch of records. remember, AM now have to answer to the head of a label if this shit crashes and burns. this record isn't that bad. in fact, it's rather good. it's certainly still AM in every way. if you're looking for them to reinvent the reinvented axl rose, it ain't gonna happen. there's a few great tracks on the record, and a few no so hot ones too. but to throw against me into the heap of shitty commercial bands is unfair though. they've still got more heart, more to say and more going for them than 99% of the dog shit that's reviewed, reported on and celebrated by the kids who read/work/and play at the org. but what the fuck do i know. when i was kid, my mother played culture club records. not a fan of the production, where's the bass? Scott clearly wouldn't care about them watering down and selling out - after all, he's done the same thing. Zing! That review is so right on the money it was if I wrote it. That is exactly how my buddy and I feel. Huge AM! fan from way back and New Wave is so depressing!!! They need to drop Butch Vig and stop the double and triple layering of Tom's Voice. They are not a studio magic, pop-punk, Mtv band, they are best at making music with raw energy and passion. This album left me feeling sad, like a great band died, and I agree what in the F#@k is up with "STOP"? Are you freaking kiddind me? I thought it was a joke at first. That just might be one of the worst songs i have ever heard, Unlistenable!!! Americans Abroad, The Ocean and Up the Cuts were great live before the album came out. Thats what I was expecting, not the boring, lazy, heartless, souless tracks that was recorded. Well i could go on and on and disect each horrible track but I wont. Anyway thanks for writting an article that speaks for all the true fans of AM! and great music. Mike When someone says a band sells out (without being in a commercial for axe body spray, that is a valid reason), I automatically lose all respect for their opinion. I said that when I was in 7th grade. I will listen to music, if it is good, regardless of whether the band has "sold out" or not. Maybe that makes me less "punk", but I think the real reason for bands like Against Me! and Anti-Flag sign to major labels is to get their message out to a new group of people instead of just the same old fans who are so punk they just find reasons to bitch at yellowcard. To the person who said this the way you talked about this album, you probably gave it 2 stars too many. its not the greatest they've put out, they probably should have only realeased an EP, but it isnt nearly as bad as you make it out to be. It has some really good songs, and some not so good ones. I give it a 3. STOP! take some time to For those of you who bought this at a store, here is my suggestion, go back (MARCH back) and tell your parents they raised a friggin idiot I dont like the mature sound of New Wave as much as previous against me albums. Tom is still the fucking shit though! Yellowcard are religious? Cool, another reason to hate them more. I'm on Yellowcards Street Team and they REALLY frown upon tagging things in non-related threads, they ask us to do stuff on myspace, at church, at the mall with friends, not on boards. And if we cuss and they catch us, then we are off the team for good, they are pretty religious. What the fuck is with the Yellowcard street team or some such bullshit out with full force in this review? What is the deal about comments and being anonymous? Is it too much of a hassle to require everyone to at least make up a name? People could still read comments they just couldn't post them. Yellowcard okay and I don't think that I'll ever forget the have a TRL ready new CD called Paper Walls or whatever that fucktard said, but I kinda was getting into the back and forth but it's too confusing with all the random shit (I guess this isn't helping either, but maybe if it spawns some talk about comments and names). NEWSFLASH....You can still be a poser, even if you admit it. I think that if you "march back" to a store with a opened CD and demand another one, the only thing you'll get in return is laughter and lots of it. Does Yellowcard have some sort of contest to spam sites or something? Even if their next record is like "lightening striking twice" (god good that is trite) I doubt people here care, they already know if they like them or not. Go troll on AP or Myspace or something. Faggot. I like it. hahahahaha. just because it got all your undergarments in a bunch The post below was meant to be a quote...I fucked up...why is there no delete/edit option on this site....Arrrgh! For those of you who bought this at a store, here is my suggestion, go back (MARCH back) and tell the store clerk that you want to return it and the only thing you'll take in return is the new Yellowcard CD "Paper Walls" and if they give you any shit, then fucking go bat-shit crazy. It will give Yellowcard some much needed press time in the National News and it will let that store now that Yellowcard fans are here to stay. New Yellowcard "Paper Walls" comes out soon and it's better than New Wave, Yellowcard admit they are a band for a career, they can't be posers if they admit it. Oh man, that last comment. If I read one more FUCKING off topic post, I'm going to not visit this site for a while. Big deal. But who pays for the ads? The labels, if labels think people are coming to this site then guess what? FUCK. For those of you who bought this at a store, here is my suggestion, go back (MARCH back) and tell the store clerk that you want to return it and the only thing you'll take in return is the new Yellowcard CD "Paper Walls" and if they give you any shit, then fucking go bat-shit crazy. It will give Yellowcard some much needed press time in the National News and it will let that store now that Yellowcard fans are here to stay. New Yellowcard "Paper Walls" comes out soon and it's better than New Wave, Yellowcard admit they are a band for a career, they can't be posers if they admit it. Remember when Colin reviewed the My Chemical Romance album a while back? i'm 22, i live with my girlfriend, i go to university. hahahaha. hahahaahahaha. holy shit i almost wet myself. and yellowcard? people are debating the worth of yellowcard? fucking violins, brits with kids at the university. i can't take it anymore. i think i'm moving on to where ever the fuck old folks go to read about punk/independant music. Enough with the Yellowcard shit, who cares? There WANT to be rock stars, AM! want to be more like Bruce Springsteen, career musicians with a message. Can you not tell the difference between Yellowcard and AM! ? I don't know much about this band you are talking about, but if you want to talk about a band on a major label that stands for something, look no farther than Yellowcard. Their last one didn't get much label support, their guitarist (Ben) left, it was a rough time in the Yellowcard camp. Fans like me and other people on music boards like this stood by the band and eagerly wait for the new CD to rock us back to better times when Yellowcard was on TRL and headling Warped. Lightening can strike twice and I'm hoping for good things for Yellowcard's newest release! the keyboardplayer sucks said: What the fuck? This album was supposed to be awesome... Yellowcard's singer felt the same way after their 2nd CD (which is great) didn't take off. It still sold well, but it was a hard time for the band. Lucky for fans like you and me, the rough spot for the band is going to lead to some really good songs on thier new CD. I can't wait to get it and listen to it! I'm ready to rock! I have been a fan of AM! for some time and probably will like anything they do. The sad thing is a lot of people are going to say it sucks because they are now on a major label and the cool thing is to rebel against that. I will still stay loyal to a band I listened to all through high school not because I feel obligated, but because I still like what they are doing. Scott has a vagina... im quite sure. It's not a good album. Seriously guys, out of your houses. Go. Play soccer, go for a run, build a birdhouse, do something. "Punknews people make me laugh. This, my friend, is how it feels too care too much about some so trivial. It's just music. Get over it." "To be honest Against me (again no exclamation mark....cos they are full of shit) can get to fuck, not because they signed to a major, but they basically fucked over a lot of people to get where they are today. So in two years time when they are moaning that sire dropped them cos theyre shit, I will have no sympathy. Its such a shame that a band that seemed to stand for so much became exactly what they used to write songs in disgust of. that review was almost word for word plagiarized and someone exposed it in the comments ColdWaffles brings up a great point. You guys revoked a Good Charlotte review that was biased, but you leave this review up. This review is biased. It is a sad day when the absolutepunk.net puts up a better review. ColdWaffles brings up a great point. You guys revoked a Good Charlotte review that was biased, but you leave this review up. This review is biased. It is a sad day when the absolutepunk.net puts up a better review. The lyrics are fucking terrible. "I wasn't talking about his statement, I was talking about the lyrics to New Wave. Like the music or not, you have to admit that it's Tom's worst lyrical effort. Saying they're "thought-provoking and empowering" is laughable at best. Against me (look, no exclamation mark...hope I don't get fined by their manager) are quite possibly one of the most (if not THE most) contradictory bunch of assholes I have ever liked. I think Justin hit the nail on the head with this review. The only thing I would add is that "Up The Cuts" has some of worst lyrics ever written. I'm not a hater, I just listen a lot. Get fucked, Scott. I use your "magazine" to wipe the jizz off my bathroom walls. Before this thing goes off teh interweb forever I need to say: Seriously guys, out of your houses. Go. Play soccer, go for a run, build a birdhouse, do something. the good charlotte review was shelved because it was plagiarism. This is an original review. Blow me coldwaffles. I noticed that "New Wave" was written in yellow font on the cover and that reminded me that the Florida punk band Yellowcard is putting out a new CD soon. Do you think they will wear black clothes and sing on Conan? what a fuckin disappointment. 'His highest rating? For a Moneybrother record on Sabot, a label closely tied with AM! This whole biased reviewer thing just doesn't hold water, so quit being mean little bastards." I hate to speak for all of the users here, but: man, as much as most people seem to dislike this CD, none of them want to talk about Yellowcard. Can we talk more about Yellowcard's new CD and less about this bad vocal joke band? 2. The best stuff from this album, mainly "Thrash Unreal", Up The Kuts", and "Born On The FM Waves Of A Heart", sound more reminiscent of Searching For A Former Clarity than anything from the first two albums. If you exiled them after Searching, you really have no business passionately bashing a band you lost interest in, apparently vehementy, two years ago. It's not Reinventing, it's not Cowboy. It's New Wave. Don't hate it for what it's not. If you're gonna hate it for what it is, listen to it first. "The lyrics on "New Wave" are just as thought-provoking and empowering as they were on their other records" I'm prepared to get slammed, it's not like cynicism isn't in the air of Against Me! threads. But I don't know if I've met a previous fan yet who didn't cite how "un-AM!" this album is. Where the HELL are you all coming from? HIt me with your "it sure ain't no We Laugh At Danger" and "I just can't get into it, it's just not Re-inventing Axl Rose." Three full-lengths, a number of demo's and ep's, a DVD. It's a wonder how any of you who discredited the band for this album didn't jump ship two years ago. The following is a list of why this was coming, and why you honestly deserve to have your awareness checked. I heard Thrash Unreal on Conan today. Sucks its considered the best song on the album, cause I thought it was merely "pretty good". I don't think I'll be getting this. Score is for the havoc that this review unleashed on the 'org. Seeing as nothing gets the org community together like an Against Me! story - a review at that - I'd like to ask the following question: "The lyrics on "New Wave" are just as thought-provoking and empowering as they were on their other records" Meh, this CD is hit and miss for me right now. "White People for Peace" might be my new favorite AM! song, and "Stop" might be my least favorite. this band has always blown since it's conception. this album only proves to me that there are a significant amount of morons in this world that accept a singer who sounds like someone took a shit down his throat as talented, and music that can't even live up to the crappy singing. with a name like against me!, it's no wonder why this band feels at the brunt end of an attack. they suck ass and there's no saving that. it's sad what people accept as talent these days. LONG LIVE MC HAMMER The second half of the album is hot trash. Where's the Gogol Bordello review? this review is intirely SPOT ON. i couldnt agree more. Do they sound like Yellowcard? They have a new CD coming out soon, I wonder which one is better? Do they sound like Yellowcard? They have a new CD coming out soon, I wonder which one is better? it was me that said that it was james yelling fuckers at the end of americans abroad. i was wrong. it's tom. Warren Kinsella, a liberal political strategist in Canada offered up his thoughts on the new album, I can't really say that i agree with his conclusions but i think that some of you should check it out, http://www.warrenkinsella.com/musings.htm I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but looking at Justin's other reviews it appears as though he's a pretty tough grader. Lotsa low ratings for other records as well. His highest rating? For a Moneybrother record on Sabot, a label closely tied with AM! This whole biased reviewer thing just doesn't hold water, so quit being mean little bastards. As Fuzzy he even gave LTJ, one of his favorite bands a 2/5 as well. He's gonna be the kind of father that that cuts his own kid from the soccer team. I think the album is good. The thing that irritates the most about it is that there are only 10 songs. Most of them are pretty good, but couldn't they at least throw 2-4 more songs on there. i don't even care if they are bad. I think my biggest qualm with this record is that I was so desperate for answers from them and I feel like I didn't get them all. The songs...yes they are solid and this is a rock record. A good rock record. But we are all drifters looking for some redemption in four guys who seemed to know where to get the answers from. I know they are trying to get us away from thinking they are all-knowing beings of punk rock redemption, but I wanted more, needed more. Hopefully, we can find them on our own now. score is for Rancid's back catalog. hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha wooooooow. This is soooooooooooooooooooo bad. Scores for the new Bad Religion album. They had SFAFC at wal*mart when it came out. That was pretty much game, set and match. However, I do have hope that eventually this band will become okay again. I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. *does deserve negative stars.* I'm really glad this got two stars, to be honest. I'm sick of the positive reviews on here. That Poet's Life bullshit Timothy Armstrong put out doesn't deserves negative stars. Actually, that should be a choice on the album score feature: NEGATIVE STARS. Great fucking record. It just keeps growing and growing... I gave this album an 8 out of 10. I don't think we can be mad, they told us upfront what this was going to be. It's not my favourite album, but its still worth listening to. i wish they would just announce the release date of their next album so we can start the countdown. How does it compare to the new Yellowcard punk CD? I think I'm gonna go buy this at Wal-Mart. thank fuck someone finally gives a score different than 4 to an anticipated album "First off I’m calling shenanigans on this comment. Read a couple of the previous Against Me! threads they are full of the whole “ZOMG! This isn’t anarcho folk-punk ANARKY!!!” statements." Great Album. Childish review. You kids need to get off your computers and go outside or something, for Christ fucking sake. ”This is such a ridiculous comment. Who was expecting a folk-punk album?” No, I'm sorry. I translated the german word into english literally and the result seems to make no sense to you... "The lyrics on "New Wave" are just as thought-provoking and empowering as they were on their other records" I like it. Very catchy. I wish it were a little longer, though. I've been listening to this album over and over again, and I've been a fan of this band since "Reinventing Axl Rose", but I first saw them live when they released "Eternal Cowboy" - this was when I could see them here in Germany for the first time. Since them I visited every gig they played around here. "If one keeps an open mind, and stops being so cynical and get past the fact that there isn’t really any “folk punk” on the album, you’ll realize that its full of catchy as hell music." I doubt I'll be listening to this. I really don't care about hype or anti-hype either. All I know is music should be judged by your ears and not your ideals. Yes fuck the music industry and blah de blah but just don't forget to actually listen. as an unbiased observer who never really cared about against me! one way or the other and who hasn't even listened to this new album, i have to say that those who dislike the album are being far more rational about this than those who like it. i don't like it, but my mother does Ah, i was waiting for this review, and i was not disappointed, nor surprised. The review seemed (to me at least) to be nothing more then a big “fuck you” to the band, and I doubt it would have gotten only 2 stars if it had been a Fat release. (compare this review to the total suck fest going on at the New Maps of Hell review) If one keeps an open mind, and stops being so cynical and get past the fact that there isn’t really any “folk punk” on the album, you’ll realize that its full of catchy as hell music. Yet I guess a catchy song seems Score is for "dirty fucking sellout spades". Everytime Against Me has moved up the label chain their fans have turned against them... so, good... who would want a fickle fanbase anyway? How many of the so called "punk scene" turned against them? I was hoping for a great record, the selling out talk and all that stuff didn't bother me because I always loved this band. ok, so i finally listened to the album and I gotta say, it really isn't as good as I had hoped. Musically, I'm pretty satisfied, a lot of times it does seem a bit dulled down, but the songs themselves still seem to be pretty solid, Thrash Unreal. New Wave, Americans Abroad, Up the Cuts, and Ocean are all solid jams that i will definitely continue listening to. Lyrically, this album is weak, easily Tom's worst lyrics in my opinion. If I find the album used I'll probably pick it up, take that as you will. TSS...this shit sucks. Wow pretty bad review - yeah its not record of the year, but you describ it like it was the worst record ever recorded as pissed off as i am at the whole major label bullshit, i enjoy more than half of the songs on the album. Stop! is a travesty, Animal is silly, and they could have done better on other tracks. Everytime Against Me has moved up the label chain their fans have turned against them... so, good... who would want a fickle fanbase anyway? How many of the so called "punk scene" turned against them? I love how people claim this is such a great rock record, like somehow punk records aren't rock records essentially and somehow since other people like punk they wouldn't understand it. I fthis is on the playing field of straightup modern rock records lets compare it to its peers then. the Deadly Snake's Porcella was a straight up rock record. Compared to this it is fucking godly. Fuck even The Draft (who are basically on a major with Epitaph) released a better rock record. This record is so fucking bland. "does the cd/dvd version look different than the regular cd version" sire records is a crap hole. i hope they make these guys end their jobs as a rock n roll star. hey, want some extra cash for your hous ein the hills and your fancy cars? fuck you against me. you are not important, nor anything you write about means anything to the real working class. assholes. this album is AM!'s Sandinista! Can't wait to hear their Combat Rock. Score is for the Dodgeball quote about 2000 posts down i liked it , borne on the fm waves and animal are my least fav.tracks on this album. but the rest is very good. These comments pretty much insure the fact that I will never buy a copy of AP......not that I ever would have anyway. I wanted this to be so much better, but I still think it's good. I like how the people defending this album have only 2 lines of argument: " In fact I'll be eagerly anticapating them on the cover of AP with the approiate title of "American's Abroad: Against Me is Here To Stay" " "it's a really good rock record". Nah. It's not. No one that likes "rock" is gonna give two shits about this record. while i do personally agree with the review, i enjoyed the album a little more. i think this band does need to do a little bit of a throwback in sound. for how capable and powerful this band is, this is a little too bland. still a decent record, but nothing that will be remembered a couple years down the road. One more thing I am a firm beiliever that AP had nothing to due with Against Me when Reiventing came out. In fact I'm pretty sure they were still hyping all the latest trend bands. I'm sure now that AM! gained major label status they'll be all over them proclaiming that they are the greatest thing to hit music. In fact I'll be eagerly anticapating them on the cover of AP with the approiate title of "American's Abroad: Against Me is Here To Stay" Some of you have really huge fucking egos. "The more I look at the completely ridiculous and off-the-mark comparisons to the Bee Gees and R. Kelly made above, the more I remember why I don't read reviews here anymore." This album makes Searching For A Former Clarity almost sound good by comparison. How does this album stack up next to Yellowcard's newest release? Hey Scott would your last name happened to be Webster from the AP boards? If so I tried to keep an extremely open mind with this record and listen to it 5 times in a row but it's flat out disappointing. In fact I feel no passion what so ever from this record and can't believe some people are calling it a "good" record. Granted I'm not comparing this to their older material but AM! completely abandoned everything that made them a breath of fresh air in the punk rock scene. To the person that commented on Butch Vig production, right on buddy. 1. The super thumb was sweet. it's better than Searching For A Former Clarity, and that's about all I can ask for. That said, I do not like Searching For A Former Clarity very much. warren just gave the super thumb on conan. at least they didn't play stop. They were never that great to begin with. They're decent....decent. You guys do understand that bitching about this record isn't going to change anyone's mind about it, right? alright dude, you don't like the album, just leave the bee gee's out of this. Good job punknews on making sure you have someone who's biased against this record write the review. This is a whole lot of bullshit, because this is pretty far from being bad. Against Me has left about half of you in the dust by going "big" and writing a "big" record, so while the kids on this site that claim "majors=selloutz" feel like bitching up a storm and melting their keyboards as they type up 1000 word responses in defense of why they think this record (which they downloaded or streamed once just to make sure they could cite superficial reasons for disliking it) is trash, everyone else is going to enjoy it and appreciate it for what it really is: a really good rock record. ...and Dear You still fucking sucks balls This review is great because its saying 'fuck you' to the band who told the punk scene to go fuck themselves. Obviously the record is not as bad as other 2 star reviews, but thats not the point. Congrats to Punknews for having the balls to call a spade a dirty fucking sellout spade. i'm surprised more people haven't commented on butch vig's influence on the album. i wanted this album to be good so badly but aside from "thrash unreal", nothing on this album touches anything else against me has put out in the past. Crap album, crap review I think this review, though well written, is a bit biased. I think this album is quality. It sounds way different, of course, but these songs are solid, much more so, I would say, than Clarity. "does the cd/dvd version look different than the regular cd version" does the cd/dvd version look different than the regular cd version i still haven't heard ALL of this album, so I think I will go do that instead of taking the reviewer's word on it and then decide whether all of the pissing and moaning is actually justified. those who only want reviews that are positive are missing the point surely. If you want fanboy reviews go and snort charlie off Scott's bell-end "Please don't try to tell me what my magazine does and does not cover. I have a pretty decent memory about these things, as well as a room full of back issues." i think this reviwer just might be one of those dudes that was angry with the hype and went straight into this with a bad attitude leaving no space for even a chance of liking this album wahhhh im so DIY that i dont like against me anymore waaaah im not even gunna give this album a chance cause my mohawk is too tall to deal with bands that actually get anywhere.. It is interesting how half of the people here are simply saying they don't like the record, then the other "mature" half are the ones insulting and cursing at them for it. wahhhh im so DIY that i dont like against me anymore waaaah im not even gunna give this album a chance cause my mohawk is too tall to deal with bands that actually get anywhere.. After listening to the album all day at work and taking in all the factors I have been left with a gross taste in my mouth. the beegies? hilarious! finally some justice. what is this pitchfork?! I like it. My biggest complaint is that the vocals in "Americans Abroad" seem buried. As a whole New Wave doesn't reach out and Grab you ... it just grows on you. Reviewer's a fucking moron as well as 90% of the kiddies that post here. The guy who posted about music critics before everyone that had a computer was one is spot on. 3 words I never thought I would compare to Against Me!... bland, unemotional, and disspointing. haha... the lyrics in the cd booklet are censored. real fucking punk. I want to like it, but this album just isn't good. I'm having a hard time listening to it all the way through a second time. I just want to skip every track. The choruses aren't even singalong worthy. The last album was way better than this, which is saying something since the last album wasn't that great and had very little replay value. It DID lose the folk stuff, but....I like it. And I'm surprised that I do. Good review, I totally agree. ""Ed is Sexxy" has already been released on a comp as either "Clap Clap" or "Take Aim" I have them both but I am not at home so I can't tell you which is which." When I think about the lyrics to "Don't Lose Touch," I can't help but think that they now apply to themselves. anyone else think this album makes them feel like a jaded punk? after i've listened to this album i get the feeling that it's some kind of massive inside joke on all their zealot fans. Album is very good, very entertaining, very fun. "Ed is Sexxy" has already been released on a comp as either "Clap Clap" or "Take Aim" I have them both but I am not at home so I can't tell you which is which. i applaud this review, while i do not agree with everything written. the album is catchy and at times engaging but it does fall flat as a whole with the second half of the album being severly dissapointing (minus some parts of ocean). kudos to justin for having the balls to write a candid review. can anyone seriously say that the lyrics on this record are good, or even at times decent enough to be mediocre, without even taking into account TG's previous catalogue? also, how are all the punknews/pseudo-punknews regulars going to get along at the next fest or vegas bowling if you bitches (scott counts as plural) get so worked up over FUCKING REVIEWS!!! This album was not necessarilly overproduced or terrible but it is definetly their worst full length and i say that having a great respect for the previous three. This is a good album. I used to be like all the rest of you and hate any band that signed to a major, but now i don't care as much as long as the music is still good. It's still the against me sound, a little more mature. I completely disagree with the reviewer. He may need to take another listen. haven't really listened to this yet, but from what i've skimmed through, i'm a little disappointed. it still seems like it'll be a decent album for a rock album...you just can't go into it expecting the "folk-punk" against me. Posted by Anchors on 2007-07-10 02:38:02 "has anyone else thought they were funny ripping a huge fart in front of someone and then you instantly realize that you shit your pants a little bit? score is for that, it sucks." >>Judging from these comments, it seems like the pro-Against Me crowd has become more voracious, numerous, and idiotic than the anti-Against Me crowd. has anyone else thought they were funny ripping a huge fart in front of someone and then you instantly realize that you shit your pants a little bit? score is for that, it sucks. I know it's really safe to say this from the annonymity of the internet, but this is honestly one of the worst albums I've ever heard. even if you distance the AM! moniker and judge it as a pop/rock record, it utterly falls flat. the Butch Vig production is horrendous (the super-shinyness just highlights the songwriting errors), Tom's lyrics have gone to shit ("I'm looking for the CREST!" makes him sound like some sort of comedy pirate) and the bizarre stylistic diversions sound like a band deliberately tredding on the toes of old fans. it's true. i just bought a copy of the album and my initial thought was "why does the word fucking contain asterisks?" After one listen, I find this album is lacking songs like "Unsubstantiated Rumors...", "How Low", "Problems", "8 Full Hours of Sleep", "We Laugh At Danger and Break all the Rules"... "haha... the lyrics in the cd booklet are censored. real fucking punk." fuckzors the punxzors. haha... the lyrics in the cd booklet are censored. real fucking punk. scott - get fucked The mini-hook in the title track is good, and of course Thrash Unreal is great...Americans Abroad good but old, and Up the Cuts is good. 6.5 rounded up = 7/10 "This record is still great" What types of donkey's are we talking here? Domestic or feral? Do you think it's better than the sound of donkey shit hitting the wall? Do you think it's better than the new Yellowcard? "The funniest thing about all of this, is that there's a common theme with every post saying how great this cd is. they list about 3 songs and say how amazing they are, and that's it. I never knew 3/10 good songs made a cd great." The funniest thing about all of this, is that there's a common theme with every post saying how great this cd is. they list about 3 songs and say how amazing they are, and that's it. I never knew 3/10 good songs made a cd great. i've loved everything since Crimes (especially Axl Rose and Acoustic EP), but i still love New Wave... the songwriting isn't AM!'s best, but it's still damn good. a lot better than a lot of shit you hear on the radio. I have ... a room full of back issues I've given this album at least 5 complete listens and I really do like it. Speaking honestly, Clarity is a stronger album with more depth. I would put this around the level of Eternal Cowboy. Of course, it's not gonna touch Reinventing Axl Rose. and AP magazine is a waste of dead trees stop!... writing shitty dance music. If Against Me! releases another record this site will implode. "As far as I remember, AP never did any features on Against Me!. Album reviews yes. I don't remember a story for "Clarity", but maybe I'm wrong. " this review is spot on. i mean, cmon 10 songs for one. two, most of them sound like they arent even trying anymore. searching...kicks the shit out of this record. Sheesh, when will people realize that most of us are not angry or frustrated with Against Me's signing and learn that its just because they stop knowing how to write a good song. I think it's good. I want to give it 8 but not yet, I think it might grow on me some more. I been coming here to read reviews for a long time and I think the reviewer is right on point. I kept an open mind towards this album and I'll be the first to say I love Searching For A Former Clarity but New Wave is garbage. First off the opening track is completely boring and lifeless. Everything about this album is un- Against Me like and I have to place blame on the horrible decision to work with Butch Vig. The only songs that I like is "Up The Cuts" and the single "White People For Peace". I hate how this album lacks the passion and anger that made me love AM! Stop sounds like a Fran Ferdinand song and could maybe bring AM so money with mainstream audiences. I like the fact that they took a chance and signed with a major but this pathetic excuse for an album is the most disappointing release I listen to in a long t I just did my first listen through and I really enjoyed it. Everyone's been ragging on "FM Waves" but I'd have to say that's one of the standout tracks (so far). I have a feeling that in a few months, I'll like this more than "Clarity," but not over the first two. This album kind of sounds like they wrote all of the songs in a week. It's on the verge of being good, but comes off kind of lackluster. Unless the singles do surprisingly well this album could be career suicide for this band. They'll go broke trying to pay the label back and then it's death time, baby. I'm not sure what everyone is all uppity about. The album isn't the worst thing in the world nor is it the greatest. If AM! had just had a demo and a few EPs, and then released this via a major, there would be 15 comments including "first" and "the MILF Hunter was here". The rest would be a lot of "pretty okay for a major label album" and the posts of that ilk people would forget about it come friday. This is a 5 or 6 nothing god awful (maybe Stop and Animal) and nothing that amazing. " They're giving you thousands of hours of ComicBookGuy: Last night's Itchy & Scratchy was, without a doubt, Just a thought... I seriously need to quit checking this review. let's place bets on what teen movie / tv franchise gets the rights to the tegan and sara song to put as a backdrop to a prom or a montage of a fight scene between oh so adorable boyfriend and girlfriend. Yo Maverick... Bravo! Great Fucking Review! haven't heard the album. well done review. that is all. I believe most people defending this release are blinded by the name on the sleeve. It's bland. Really. Not my favorite AM! album, but definitely better than 2-stars. It's pretty embarassing when absolutepunk.net has a better, more unbiased critique of a record than Punknews does" Honestly this is a lot better than i thought it was going to be. People don't enjoy it because they have a different sound almost completely, but why would anyone want to stick to one sound. Especially when it's shitty recordings with some guy screaming.(although i enjoy them) Theyv'e opened up to a great sound and can even be compared to great bands now like the replacements. "It's pretty embarassing when absolutepunk.net has a better, more unbiased critique of a record than Punknews does" http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=247750 to 88 fingers tony: Not bad, but nothing great. Unreal Thrash is a pretty cool song. it is not a HORRIBLE album, but it pales in comparison to their other albums. it's a major let down that's all. we expect more from a band that has written such good albums in the past. if this were their first album, people probably wouldn't be so critical. Whoever compared this album to a Michael Bay film is pretty much spot on. This album displays the same shallow depth, simplistic dialog and formulaic composition as any Michael Bay blockbuster. The key difference is that Michael Bay films will at least assault your senses with high gloss production and effects . New Wave couldn't even be bothered to be incredibly over-produced and it ends up sounding like a bargain basement pop album. If you are going to write a pop album, then own and polish that turd to sparkly sheen. It's really the only way to distract the listener from the fact that you have just insulted their intelligence for 45 minutes or so. I might as well pick this up for the Steak Mtn artwork on the 7". Dante... First... You are ridiculous... Couple of things: a lot of the songs on this album remind me of jimmy eat world's harder stuff.... anyone else hear it? no lasting power here, i dug the first 10 spins but i just dont see myself listening to it again.....i could care less what direction they head as long as its good and this record just gets boring quick While I want to bash the review REALLY BAD for sounding adolescent and childish, I'm going to bite my tongue. fucking sell outs. i knew from the first record, these chumps would go the direction of money. fuck against me. worst fake band ever. I hope that Against Me! will take the cue from Less Than Jake and ask to have their contract nullified. I seem to agree with this justin guy although on a less harsh scale. The actual music isnt all that impressive and a couple songs do seem out of place(Americans, White People). The music just doesnt rock as much. It is against me though... as SFAFC states "Even at our worst, we're still better then most" --when did franz ferdinand start writing with against me? i find it pretty ironic that there is a statement tearing justin apart followed by another statement saying "i'm not gonna dissect your opinion." um, duh. when did franz ferdinand start writing with against me? VVVV They gave it a B plus. This system must not like the plus sign. Somebody asked about what mainstream critics think of New Wave. Entertainment Weekly gave it a B and said something along the lines of "It would be a shame if the outdated theoretical views of the band's longtime fans kept them from pogoing along." That's the only mainstream review I've seen so far. incredible. scott is an even bigger jackass than dante is. This review compared it to London Calling: I don't want to say "New Wave" sucks as an Against Me! album, because music, for most bands, is about evolving and seeing what new styles they can conquer. I don't want to say I'm disappointed, because there ARE some good songs. If a first time listener were to listen to all their albums on random, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to tell it comes after "SFAFC," the sound and themes are very similar. I think the band has changed and matured a lot since "Axl Rose," and it seems most people on this site's musical tastes haven't grown with the band. I'm NOT trying to shit talk, because everyone's tastes are different. Some prefer straight punk, others like when bands try something new. It's a way of life. for sure i will be interested to see what mainstream music critics who dont care about punk politics or have a previous allegiance to Against Me think. i bet they think its mad boring. has anyone heard "you must be willing,' yet? if so, is it good? Maybe I'm just retarded but I've read and reread the interview and while I don't necessarily agree with Justin's opinion I, in no way, find it as some sort of unfounded trashing of a band he feels betrayed by. it isn't an "against me" record as the fans know it but it is a decent rock record. not too bad I honestly feel Against Me! is evolving and bringing the punk scene along with it. very bad, i dont even want to think about listening to it. and the packaging is shit too. Come on!!! It's good, you know it. Did you order the vinyl? If so, it's been pushed back to a July 24 release date so you'll have to wait a few more weeks. and seriously... this album is terrible this review really should have gone to a more neutral reviewer so they could give it the positive review i wanted to read. now that someone disagrees with me, i don't know where i stand anymore. who am i? what does any of this mean! Pretty boring CD. A few highlights but nothing solid enough to consider an ablum. Mostly agree with the review. i like it...don't really care what the rest of ya'll think Bitch, my and your face....or my gun and your mouth! Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm really kinda confused as to why everyone is giving the reviewer shit. It's a good review....maybe a litttle bit biased, but what review isn't when you're reviewing a band with a variety of previous releases and lots of hype (both good and bad) surrounding this release. If he gave the album a great review, people would talk shit about being a biased fan-boy. It's a lose-lose situation. Judging from these comments, it seems like the pro-Against Me crowd has become more voracious, numerous, and idiotic than the anti-Against Me crowd. the order of Against Me!'s full lengths from best to least best should be as follows: My Review of This Review; Woops, forgot to actually rate this IN STARS. Clarity is a far superior album. I love Up The Cuts, Thrash Unreal and White people for peace. The rest is just boring. Was hoping for so much more. By no means is this WORST ALBUM EVAR, but it is another emotional, musical, and lyrical step down for the band. I don't care about any of the backstory and politics of the band. I don't care what label they're on. What disappoints me is the lack of intensity and raw emotion. I know that different listeners have different reaction to different aspects of Against Me!'s music, but in my opinion, each album has been a step down from Reinventing Axl Rose. boring dance punk. I pretty much agree with this review - I really didn't enjoy this album at all. Man I loved Clarity, it really struck me weird when I first heard it but it really grew on me over time. I'm not sure New Wave will have that effect, but 2 stars is a little to low. Not a perfect album, but who does make one? The first three songs fulfill Against Me's promise of writing pop song gems that have seemed to always be lurking just under the suface of their albums. The rest of the album is really solid without much filler. I think Butch Vig did a good job of capturing the band's sound and taking off the rough edges to make it more commercial ala Nirvana. Man I loved Clarity, it really struck me weird when I first heard it but it really grew on me over time. I'm not sure New Wave will have that effect, but 2 stars is a little to low. I'd also add The Weakerthans to that list with The Draft. I don't think anyone has mentioned it thus far but with these last two albums Against Me! have sort of placed themselves in a in s space that exists as a post-punk of the epi-fat/no idea generations. The Draft have done something similar I'd say, except I think they did it better compared to this album. "haven't gotten my pre-order yet, i want that 7" !" I didn't even have to read the review. guys, you all just need to haven't gotten my pre-order yet, i want that 7" ! I agree with this review completely aside from the fact (that I don't even care about) that they are complete sellouts, this album is boring. It's worse than the last one and that was pretty bad. There are only 10 songs, and only 4 of 10 that I would want to listen to again. While this album isn't anything incredible it is a solid comeback from Clarity and deserves a better score than a 4. There are some good tracks on the album such as Up The Cuts, Trash Unreal, Americans Abroad, and Ocean and is worth a listen from old and new fans alike. It amazes me that Scott wastes so much time on this message board responding to the people who post here. You like the CD, some people don't. Big deal. Get over it. That's how things go. I guess AP doesn't keep you busy enough if you have time to come on here and bullshit with us. Really? If you look at your 2006 top picks in your review section you have searching for a former clarity as one of your favorite albums because Against Me is doing something different. Douche Bag. Hey, lets all write about how jealous we are.. Tom Gabel sucks because his music style has changed. Against Me sucks because I liked them when they wernt popular. Punk music is supposed to sound like crap, like they didnt put effort into recording.. overall i rate this album as bad because that makes me sound like im cool LOL HEY SCOTT! I am so afraid to listen to this album, its not out here for another 3 days.... I can't believe you didn't like "Up The Cuts"!!!!! It sounds better then the first time i listened to it, but it just feels flat to me. For some reason i don't hear all that energy that was around in Eternal and Reinventing. I really wanted some acoustic songs on this album, i think thats truly where Against Me! come in to their own. It may grow on me, but at the moment, i'm disappointed. Stop, Piss and Vinegar, Animal, and the Ocean completely ruin what could have been a decent release. Worst. Review. Ever. Worst. Review. Ever. tom gabel is a total hypocrite on this record. he talks about wishing for people to be out there responding to his message, asking if people are restless or fed up with media... when he already had those questions answered with the fans the band left behind. the lyrical content seems trivial because against me already "washed away new shores," as it were, but apparently that wasn't good enough or meaningful enough the first time around. Also, Against Me do seem to have an excessive amount of lyrics about themselves and how they do things the right way... it doesn't seem very humble. Reinventing Axl Rose is a truly amazing record. This record is OK but not great. 5 good songs, 3 alright songs, and 2 bad songs. This CD is okay. It isn't amazing, it isn't horrible. It has one really good song ( Thrash) , one really bad song (Animal) and a whole lot of "meh" songs in between. wow, nice attack review. this album doesn't deserve this kind of antagonism. this album is awful It's a pretty good album. Ocean and Stop are my favourite tunes from it currently. Clarity took about 6 months to grow on me, so maybe I'll like this one a lot more down the road. score is for the review, this album is great fuck you guys this albums great. natural evolution of this band. hating this album is whats popular right now, i dont think anyone gave this album a chance without showing some bias towards it. if you want to hate the album your going to hate the album. So disappointing. It could have been so much better. I've been staring down this album trying to get myself to listen to it for a while now. So far my only opinion is that I really, really fucking hate the cover art. You guys better watch out, Warner Brothers hired an e-team to do damage control for Against Me. Seriously: http://www.totalassault.com/home.php I like this cd. It's not as bad as everyone thinks, the music hasn't even changed that much. This album isn't bad. Being a huge fan of ALL their other stuff, I must say it is a bit of let down. Tom Gabel has stopped writing vital songs that need to be written and has resigned himself to simply writing "meh" songs. His muse has left him and he is trying his best to find inspiration on his own. He needs to swallow his pride and admit that he wasn't ready for the success he was aiming for. I understand why he went with the Sire deal; he wanted to prove that he could. He wanted to score a victory "on the inside", not just in the underground. All I can say is "Come back Tom. We miss you." no matter if you like the album or not, whinning about it just gives it more media making more people listen to it, and this is a shit load of whinning who is this band? are they against me or themselves? i don't get what they are saying. except dear you's actually a good album! This album is drawing the line in the sand here. Posted by elephantdwarf on 2007-07-10 01:10:16 i couldnt get past about the first half of the first song on the myspace stream. in fact, thats how i feel about most of their music. after i put the cd in, there is nothing that makes me want to keep listening. "How strange, the Alt Press staffers have come around on Against Me! now that their teeny rag is getting some more of that sweet WB ad dough. This is their worst album by far and it's funny that AP suddenly supports the band now that they're at their worst." How strange, the Alt Press staffers have come around on Against Me! now that their teeny rag is getting some more of that sweet WB ad dough. This is their worst album by far and it's funny that AP suddenly supports the band now that they're at their worst. I'm listening to the myspace stream right now...doesn't sound bad, i actually like most of it. i know plenty disagree with me, but the fact that this is on sire is still a detractor. ideals still matter no matter who you are, and all against me!'s bitching about the music industry is getting old. 98% of bands don't get to live off the music they create, and against me! seems to expect to be getting rich off punk rock. This review hit the nail on the head. Nice job Justin. score is for my loud neighbors above me. I think this album ups the punx more than it ups the cuts. against me! seems to have sadly become the biggest joke in punk. i s'pose we'll never know why they decided to "go for it", but maybe this is an example of what not to do. oh yeah, and anti-flag, a far inferior band had a much more impressive major label debut. somethin's wrong with that. Against me Isn't Justin meant to be dead? ""Slagging this record is just going to be the cool thing to do around here for six months or so. $20 says it will still be somewhere near the top of this site's year-end list." Maybe I should say "think" once or twice more to emphasize my point, hah. JonDaley - you really think Searching was "stellar"? I was agreeing with many of the things you said up until that point. I thought SFAFC was their worst. Thought it was a disjointed mess. New Wave isn't perfect, but I think AM took the best parts of their last two records and glossed it up with the larger recording budget to make a polished and solid record. I agree with the whole cliched, "Oh man, the way music is being talked about and categorized" theme. It's really sad. Besides Thrash Unreal and Up the Cuts, this is boring to me. It's blandly over-produced and blah. The review which could tear Punknews.com apart... I've had a copy of this cd for a couple of weeks now and sure it's a "rock" album but it has grown on me. The range of Tom's vocals(or lack of) leave something to be desired but hell, at least they're unique. I'm actually looking more forward to seeing the live show on the double disc when I go out and buy it tomorrow(yes I share files on the internet and usually buy the cd when it's available in the stores). All and all it'll probably grow on me some more... scores for R. Kelly. horrible. for the record - well written review, but honestly, so many of your points come off twice as pretentious as the record. i agree with the review. couldn't have written it better myself. my poorly typed two cents The reviewer looked way too far into it. And comparing this to R. Kelly? Yeah...fuck off. How can you guys talk about this album, when there's an amazing sale going on at Bobette's! Yes, that's right! Bobette's! Where you can receive a bj and an ice cream cone for under 5 dollars! Go now! I think it was a shame that the band didn't put any softer acoustic numbers on this, it is one of their strengths. "Joy" was one of the major highlights fo the last album. This would make sense if they were tryings oem bold new direction but instead there isn;t really anything that innovative here. On their past efforts the duets were also highlights of their respective albums and this time it is really boring. From "Americans Abraod" I got the impression the band would go with a more sophisticated roots rock oriented approach maybe using that fancy studio money to have bells and whistles like more brass, maybe some lap steel or something but they really didn't do anything like that which is disappointing. That why I completeky agree that that sng sounds out of place. The band can't really be faulted for that but it would seem that would make for a more logical accessable approach. They only half succeed with their dance attempts over all this feel like the type of album that would be a sophmore slump after the stellar Searching.... Thats my two cents. Hey Chris, hope you don't think I was reffering to your comment being immature. I just like how you basically just said you disagree with the review but Scott basically took a cheap shot at Justin. Sorry, meant to cut and paste some text. My last comment was in response to Chris' last comment. Shock em'? You mean the shocker, you know, 2 in tha pink, one in the stink. Yeah, but it's obvious going into it that Justin didn't want to give this a good review anyway. Smell that fitness?! I do, rock em' and shock em' baby! 'What's with Tom's pattern of confused sexuality though? With Ocean and Searching For A Former Clarity off their last album, is that a gimmick or is that something that he's struggled with?" The widow Jenkins! She fell down again! Rich - You really just WANT to hate the album. I call biased review. It is really frustrating that no one really gets the point of White People. I love that Chris basically said, "we disagree about the album, eh" and Scott went the, "UR SO DUM YOU TIPE LYKE DIS" approach. you gotta listen to it high stop chorus="relax don't do it, when you want to go through it. Relax, don't do it, when you want to come" I don't know if the 4 is deserved, I'd say 6 is better...Up The Cuts, Thrash Unreal, White People For Peace and Piss & Vinegar are all really good, everything else, not so much. I'm not even an Against Me! fan at all, but this album is better than the score given. I would like Neill Cawleys dick in my dong. i didn't post that. it's someone impersonating me, and if you'd like i can contact aubin about verifying the AP address. Colin- Removed from the context of the band, there are certainly worse mainstream rock records. I listened to this album once, and at this point, I'm not sure if that number will ever increase. Take that as you will. scott- My money was riding on Prince Fielder, but my boy just didn't come through...he'll be back. My interpretation of Justin's review: Yeah, it started off slow, but the finish was good. AT&T Park sure isn't homerun friendly. Score is for the HR derby. "scott has proved time and time again that he is a complete and utter asshole who doesn't give a shit about integrity. In more important news, anyone else see the homerun derby? Giving this an 8 because I only liked 8 songs out of the 10. Simple eh? Wiped my ass with a pinecone, then proceeded to eat it, tasted like catfish. scott has proved time and time again that he is a complete and utter asshole who doesn't give a shit about integrity. Ouch! I'm probably one of the few who hasn't downloaded the leaked version, but I really didn't like White People For Peace, both thematically and musically. Not sure if I will get this...score is for White People For Peace. Scott- Is that Catclops? I like six of 10 songs. I'll be nice and give it a 7. still not sure where i stand on this album. some days i really like it, others i hate it. My interpretation of Justin's review: thank god, but can you guys post my review next week? I mostly agree, thsi just isn't very good. "Thrash Unreal" & "Up the Cuts" are the best two things about this album. "Animal" is just gross. Here is to hoping the next one will be better. I like it, took some growing time, but i like it, and i like it better than SFFC. However, despite knowing someone will flame me for saying this, i have to say that for the most part i can get by just fine with songs with crappy lyrics as long as the song sounds good to me, lyrics have only been a bonus to a good song to me, never a selling point or a means to dock an albums score, so with that said i stand firmly by my score. To each his own i guess glad I never got into this band Wrong Wrong. its no eternal cowboy but i can't stop listening to it/ I'd rather listen to this than Searching.. Well...I like it. Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled. no acoustic songs, but still petty rockin. catchy as fuck. Thrash Unreal really is the only song worth anything on this album.... Justin and I are polar opposites on this. I absolutely love it. The hooks, the melodies, and even the lyrics. It's a rock record, and a damn fine one. do girls like a lot of body hair on guys? Who? |
