t-t-t-totally, dude!

Good to see that Little Brother album mentioned. That shit slapped rap music in the face, except nobody who should have taken notice actually did. It's tragic. I think it's even harder to sell music as a true-school hip-hop artist than it is as a punk band. The fact that complete and utter fucking garbage like "Party Like A Rock Star" is the most popular shit out right now makes me to continue to have no faith in the brains of 85% of my fellow humans.

Posted by sitars on 2007-09-04 15:27:47
My Score:

Entertaining review, awesome album. It's my driving record when I take long journeys - this and Little Brother's "The Minstrel Show".

And ibitchslappedyourmama, I kinda agree with you on Papoose. I mean, on one hand, he's a good rapper but, seriously, I cannot remember any of his songs when push comes to shove.

"This site is definitely in need of another of these anyway so we can all see how this isn't "rapnews.blackpeople" or something like that. But enough about the possible hilarity of future comments from the morons that read this site."

If the folks who are regular to this site are such "morons", why would you bother to post it here in the first place??? Vanity? Chuckling at your own genious? Nothing better to do? I'll admit...I'm bored, and have have nothing better to do than take your bait!

Here's the overall truth about your moronic review:
This is dumb mainstream hip-hop, you ate up something that the frat-goons over at Pitchfork gave a 9 to, This has nothing to do with race or hip-hop not being punk, the rhymes are neither clever nor funny, and best of all Zomba is an offshoot of Jive...way to get out of that one dummies!

Public Enemy, Immortal Technique, Sage Francis, Dead Prez and The Coup are punk...This is stupid bullshit...period!

And why would you print a review from last November(...and the world was tired of Pharrell and Chad then too, where do you live Wyoming?) of nonsense like this when there are ACTUAL punk records(really fucking good ones too!) that you dorks still haven't reviewed...editorial content anyone???

"Is this review ironic? There have been quality rap albums (Wutang) and hiphop that comes close to punk ethically (Sage Francis, Atmosphere) reviewed on this site, and that's great. But what exactly is so "punk" or "cool" with selling drugs, using racial slurs and robbing people at gunpoint? And what's enviable about childish bat/hat/cat rhyme schemes and bumper sticker quality pop-culture references and puns?"

Quoted for truth.

Posted by kirbypuckett on 2007-09-03 16:48:04
My Score:

I love this record. Glad to see a review on here.

- Kirby

Posted by internetsanta on 2007-09-03 16:16:00
My Score:

4 1/2 stars!! not exactly. pretty boring production. crunk or nothin i say

wiggedy giggedy.

i haven't listened to this album. nor do i plan on doing so. however, it is shit for the following two reasons:
1. the album cover is terrible.
2. this review is an ass kiss.

"And shit is totally top notch."

thinking then writing=good. drinking then writing=bad.

P.S. Ramones - Chinese Rock

Clipse definatly up tha pUnX.

I love this album. Awesome lyrics.

Posted by vocalyouth on 2007-09-02 19:34:59
My Score:

I got it for cheap!

Posted by StrizzMatik on 2007-09-02 12:57:59
My Score:

Meh rap album, but for real, get HORSE the band's new one up, along with MxPx before throwing up grunge and rap reviews, hm?

Hmmm, my buddy played this album for me while back and I thought it was OK, but never followed up on it....a few thoughts though
-Neptunes? yawn....yes they're pretty talented but the beats are so commercial, it hurts. Pharell annoys the shit outta me, too.

-Icapped2pac: I agree wholeheartedly with your last paragraph...I have been listening to a lot of 'underground' mc's and groups from the mid to late ninties, mostly because a lot of what is being put out today hasn't been able to keep my attention. That being said, there still is some good shit coming out today, but it doesnt compare to black hip-hop artists, as you say, from the past.
On another note, Talib Kweli will always be the shit. I first heard him on Lyricist Lounge vol 1. Comps like that and Soundbombing 1 and 2 got me really digging deeper into groups that were featured on those. Late nineties-NY underground hip hop was basically what it was, I guess.
Lately though, I have really been digging new shit like Blue Scholars, Kidz in the Hall(best shit out now), Panacea, Procussions(as you can see anything from the 'new' Rawkus i enjoy, no matter how much El-P hates them, and maybe for good reason),People Under the Stairs, Lupe Fiasco, Immortal T., Cage and so on..

Oh and for favorite rap lyrics? look no further than big l, or more recently, papoose. He's the best.
"I wont con you for a gun, but I'll con you for some yay in a sec, Not a con artist, but I Con Yay, like West."

"Son won't come around the 'hood , cuz he know that I'ma hurt him...I stop son from coming in like curtains"

"And the entire universe is OVER the Neptunes weak beats"

It wasn't over it last November, you know, when I actually wrote this.

" What’s important is that Hell Hath No Fury is closer to a punk record than at the very least 50% of the stuff that’s been reviewed lately. You can't honestly say that selling crack on street corners at all hours of the night isn't more punk than hopping a train with your parents' credit card in your shoe."

this is honestly the dumbest thing I have EVER heard ANYONE say EVER! And the entire universe is OVER the Neptunes weak beats and phoney skaterisms! This is about as punk as Avril Lavigne produced by the Matrix!

Like, whats so punk rock about the glorification of cocaine and crack? Cuz thats pretty much all the CLIPSE do.

Posted by moneenerd on 2007-09-01 13:17:24
My Score:

I love the Clipse too but....

You know its a slow news/review week when there's a CLIPSE and JANE'S ADDICTION review on PunkNews

I like clipse and all, but I felt this review tried too hard to justify itself in a "Hey guys, i know this is hip hop, but look how many ways I can relate it to punk!" sort of way.

Is this review ironic? There have been quality rap albums (Wutang) and hiphop that comes close to punk ethically (Sage Francis, Atmosphere) reviewed on this site, and that's great. But what exactly is so "punk" or "cool" with selling drugs, using racial slurs and robbing people at gunpoint? And what's enviable about childish bat/hat/cat rhyme schemes and bumper sticker quality pop-culture references and puns?

"When wast he last time you listening to They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y) by Pete Rock and CL Smooth? All-tiome classic."

Not too long ago. A couple months maybe. I think those two LPs fall into the same traps a lot of good 90's records did by being way too long. Like, I think "Stunts, Blunts, and Hip-Hop" is a ridiculously underrated and underappreciate record, but I never ever listen to it because it's so goddamn long.

Posted by asxyouxwish on 2007-09-01 11:09:00
My Score:

this album could have been so much better.

I'd rather listen to Spank Rock.

Coke-snorting hip-hop > Coke-dealing hip-hop

Public Service Announcement.

When wast he last time you listening to They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y) by Pete Rock and CL Smooth? All-tiome classic.

"would half the people be all over this album if pitchfork didn't hype the shit out of it?"

I'd like to think so. I mean, I don't know about the rest of the world's Clipse fans, but I personally couldn't care less about what Pitchfork has to say about anything.

this band is INSANELY over-rated. yeah, the production is phenomenal, i will give it that. but really pharel is all these guys have going for them. i think the rhymes are pretty good at best, nothing spectacular. and EVERY goddamn song is about money and selling coke. it's fucking tiresome.

would half the people be all over this album if pitchfork didn't hype the shit out of it?

i've been meaning to listen to this for a while, but i honestly have a lot of trouble getting into hip hop that is not wu tang affiliated.

favorite rap lines anybody?

"niggas ask why i use my glock,
cause its 2003 motherfucker i refuse to box"
-trife

FYI

Nothing coming from Stones Throw or Def Jux camps will ever top this record.

Clipse is alright musically and lyrically styled but it gets boring with every song being about selling coke.

I'll add to the list of Hip Hop that is better than Clipse.
Brother Ali (listen to Forest Whitaker and Walkin Away two of the best hip hop songs ever), Asamov, Sweatshop Union( How can we be free when the water we drink is owned by some company), Immortal Technique, Lifesavas, Zion I, Living Legends, Solillaquists of sound, AZ, Rakim, Little Brother, KRS One, De La SOul (respect is my new jam), Asamov, Blue Scholars. I love good hip hop and Clipse is not a part of it.

Old stuff was better

@Icapped2pac:

Good comment (though the new Common is shit. He'll never top Resurrection in my eyes). There is so much good hip hop out there that people either don't seek out or don't want to listen to. It's just like punk music, the shit you hear on the radio isn't what it's all about. Check out artists like the aforementioned Murs, Wu-Tang Clan, Mos Def (or better yet, Blackstar's one album), Pharoahe Monch, NWA, older Ice Cube, Vakill, Oh No (Madlib's brother), or almost anyone else on Stones Throw for that matter.

I used to be a pretty pigeonholed guy, listening to shitty pop punk all the time, but I'll tell you, at this point, I probably listen to more hip hop than anything else. It's just some of the best music out there these days.

WEZ

DJ Premier seriously regulates neptunes. That classic beat is oranges.

Yawwwwn. These guys aren't terrible, and I get that they're different, but I can't be bothered to listen to more than a few songs. That's mostly due to the beats, really... to me, the Neptunes are pop producers, not beatsmiths like DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Dr. Dre (well, he used to be), Insight, 9th Wonder... I could go on and on.

On that note, I would recommend Project Move, Raheem Jamal, Sound Providers, Edgar Allen Floe.... Masta Ace's last 2 albums were great, Kweli's and Common's new ones are good, and Percee P is about to drop an album entirely produced by Madlib which sounds so sweet I almost kept the voice-over promo mp3s.

And while I'm spilling my unsolicited thoughts on hip-hop, I gotta say how sick I am of talking to/seeing myspace pages/reading posts by kids who are into Aesop Rock and Atmosphere but don't listen to any black hip-hop artists and have no idea who KRS-One or Rakim are (no doubt the guys whom Aesop and Slug probably idolized when growing up). Take a listen to "And This Is For" by Slug's sometime partner Murs, off his "Murs 3:16" album if you don't get where I'm coming from. I just wish "the kids" were a little more open and aware to what else is out there, and I don't want to see hip-hop inevitably go the way of rock and roll.

"The Neptunes handle all of the production duties here, and assuming you know anything about anything, you’re stoked."

LOL, you have to be kidding. Way to buy into the Neptunes hype dude. There really is nothing special about their production.

Holy fucking shit.

And for the record, I wrote this forever ago, Mr. Smart Anonymous dude.

last year's pitchfork reviews called. they want their ironic reverence of terrible mainstream rap back.

Funny ass review. Can't say I know anything about Clipse (or that I'd buy this album) but that review was awesome.
-Dante

Posted by youwinalemon on 2007-08-31 19:56:29
My Score:

What a good album. Maybe not the absolute hip-hop masterpiece some make it out to be, but damn good.

This is gonna be a fun slew of comments.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 31, 2007 at 7:49 PM (EDT)
My Score:

blah

dfde

That was supposed to be 4 stars, not 2.

Posted by Citizen_Crack on 2007-08-31 19:37:01
My Score:

Score is for review. That was some funny shit.
Does no one understand sarcasm?

Posted by facetofacereunion08 on 2007-08-31 19:27:07
My Score:

and punknews.org is slowly turning into absolutepunk.net...clipse review before new mxpx, buck o nine, many more.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 31, 2007 at 7:21 PM (EDT)
My Score:

Complete shite. Wiggers are stoked.

Thanks for the review. This album is really good. Glad to see more than the Associated Press and I loved this.