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Published on January 19th 2002
Bad Religion is more than just a punk rock band. They are a punk rock institution. They have existed for almost 20 years and have always been a part of the musical evolution that is independent music. Your Blink 182s, your Sum 41s, your New Found Glories; none of them would exist if it wasn’t for Bad Religion. It is only fitting, then, that “The Process Of Belief” blows all of those bands [and about a million more] out of the water. People who liked this also liked:           Please login or register to post comments. What are the benefits of having a Punknews.org account?
I really good album, but The Empire Strikes First is better, in my opinion. Simply awesome. I saw them last November, they played "The Defense", I was so happy, I popped 17 boners! dude i love to eat corn and then poop it out and eat the corn out of it! its so good! This is an amazing CD..definitly one of their best....how can anybody say that this is uncreative and uninspired? The lyrics on this CD, and all Bad Religion CDs are surpassed by no other band in my opinion. I love every BR album that I've heard (not quite all of them yet, but I'm working on that) the only one that didn't strike me as being a true quality album was No Substance, but there were even great songs on that. The Process Of Belief is one of the best CDs you will ever come across. ---LaPetiteBanshee This is a great cd, and Bad Religion is my favorite band of all time. However two things piss me off. One, the second half of this cd is real weak (I wont listen to any tracks after epiphany.) Two, Sorrow is not supposed to be an inspirational song, it is a sarcastic look at the biblical story of Job. It is meant to be a joke. Three, I hate when people try to call Bad Religion a "political" band. Very few of their songs are actually political, and there is only one really political song on The Process of Belief (Kyoto Now!.) They are a very socially conscious band, however they are not political (there is a reason for this, Greg Graffin is an anthropologist, among other things.) Brooks Wackerman is by far the best drummer BR has ever had. I think the reason the last few BR album's sucked is because Bobby Schayer started to suck on the drums. If this was any other band, it would be an amazing album, however for Bad Religion it is good, but not great. It still doesnt compare to Generator or Against the Grain (BR's two best.) Wow. Well, after two albums (No substance and New America) that didnt really do much for me (though they are not bad, some good songs just not stand out albums) They get Brett back and WOW what an album they have put together for us, Greg and Brett really do work well together. THIS ALBUM IS MELODIC PUNK AT ITS BEST - BUY THE ALBUM YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED ! this is a great album. bad religion just continues to surprise and amaze its liteners with songsl like "supersonic" and "prove it" these songs are abotu the music and bad religion is abotu that to they are very good at staying close to those who have been with them since the begining. Bad religion has 15 albums and is still going..i highly advise that you starts off listening to these guys if your new to punk over-fucking-rated. the band and this album. "Punk is dead. Punk always has been dead. Punk always will be dead. And if it wasn't it wouldn't be punk. You see if something becomes mainstream (ie not "dead") it is not punk." Jesus fucking christ "Sorrow" makes me want to cry, seriously "This is the best Bad Religion album ever. I liked their last one, the new america but listening to it now, after having been mesmerized by the Process of Belief, it's just not anywhere near the level of quality of this masterpiece" Bad Religion has done it again and i commend them. i honestly think this is among Bad Religion's best work. Nothing will top the album NO CONTROl, but this is pretty damn good. I haven't skipped over one track yet. This is real punk rock. bands like NFG and SUm 41do what they do just to be famous. Bad Religion is the best, because they play the best punk rock and they don't fuckin fill up an album with songs about girls. NFG SUCKS ASS!!! yeah, river city rebels do rock. Yeah i noticed the descendants reference immediately, i kinda laughed upon hearing good old milo's name...but yeah this is an amazing record, even the somewhat mellower songs (Broken, Epiphany, Sorrow) are near-amazing and they flow so well, even with the weird discrepancy in song lengths..and btw bad religion isn't hardcore, trust me - there're plenty of punks that can tolerate bands like both som. corp. and rise against i.e. myself I agree.... who doesn't????? Punk is dead. Punk always has been dead. Punk always will be dead. And if it wasn't it wouldn't be punk. You see if something becomes mainstream (ie not "dead") it is not punk. That sed I would like to say "process of belief" kicks ass. And i think Bad Religion (espicially greg) and the dead kennedys (espicially jello) are the best punk rockers of all time. I think this is one of there worst cds but its still pretty damn good. This is much better than recent fare from BR, it sounds like it came right after Suffer, which is good, but is also bad. BR was a great band, but if they go on any longer they will start to tarnish their legacy like so may great bands before them. If you start making the same record over and over too many times, it's time to hang it up... I just wish more people would realize that not all fans of blink don't know what real punk is. I love blink, and I admit, they are not truly, completely real punk, but they are punk in my book. And I know there are a lot of annoying teeny-boppers who like blink. But real punks like 'em, too. And just because I like blink-182 doesn't mean I don't like Bad Religion. BR's a great band, and I've heard lots of great songs by them (though I still have yet to buy this album, and I'm sure when I do I'll love it). There's not such a clear-cut line between hardcore punk fans and pop-punk fans. Just like a few days ago when I was at Warped, and when Good Charlotte was done with their set, Joel asks, "You guys ready for Bad Religion?" And the exact same GC crowd was also cheering for BR, and stayed to see them. All I got to say is that I thought this album kicked ass and aslong as I think so thats all that matters to me. This is the best Bad Religion album ever. I liked their last one, the new america but listening to it now, after having been mesmerized by the Process of Belief, it's just not anywhere near the level of quality of this masterpiece. My girlfriend liked it immediately and then made a copy for herself and then learned all the lyrics to the songs. And she didn't even like punk music. Now she does though. Are most Americans dumbass's. All yee seem to do is bitch about each other. 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WATCH000!!! Am I the only person who noticed the Descendents reference in "You Don't Belong"? "...Milo went the college, but you knew about that". Come on, it's as plain as day. Fucking good album - I think I only listened to it 10 times on the day I got it. The case is a work of art in it's own right - get this album now (no, not Blink 182's latest single about fucking and booze). Uh dude...fathead is dead. I just wanted to say something, and what better than to say it on the 10 most popular reviews? FATHEAD is the biggest double standard I have ever seen. I would like to take this opportunity to say 'fuck you fathead' and that I will write numerous anti-fathead songs for the rest of my life. You are a disgrace to any kind of community or whatever 'punk scene' you THINK< a> you live in. Fuck off dick-sucker. You will know me in the coming years and you will grow to hate me. You have no musical knowledge whatsoever at all. Go listen to your 'Jets to Brazil' bullshit. Haha, and you call yourself 'punk'. And don't even say I'm pseudo-punk for saying that because you know what?! I'M NOT ANYTHING 'PUNK', I listen to Sum 41 and Blink 182 all day and my band mimics their very exsistence. Fuck off, nobody wants you around. -skinnyhead. This album is ok... just ok. Nothing special... not even close to special. this album by far surpasses anything on the market...ever. this is the best album ever. you can't buy anything better, honestly. to the quirky dumbass who said they sound like saves the day, i like saves the day, don't get me wrong, but mr. brett and his acompaniment do NOT sound like whiney chris. nor does saves the day have group vocals, or the best fricken music of all time. thank you and be shot. Some people just dont deserve to live. These guys sound like new saves the day, but with less talent. The lyrics on this crappy piece of shit album are so crappy. Fuck this uncreative and meaningless bullshit. Listen to Sunday Back Taking if you like punk rock, okay? Only if he's refering to you. Do you also agree with him calling people 'fagets'? I agree with last commentor, if you don't like a band, don't comment on them. Just one comment about the whole blink 182 argument thing. Fuck, why do you fagets have to be so opinionated about all that? I mean, I like BR and blink because both bands are fun to listen to in their own way. What's the fucking point of fighting with people cause you don't like their music. Who gives a flying fuck. All these bands, new or old, are playing music because it's what teh love to do and they all have fans and peopel that like them. Anyway, the new album is the shit, but the new blink is a pretty funny and good to listen to album as well. Hey has anybody seen the new blink video? Funniest shit ever. Oh one more thing, I hate you all cause all you do is argue with each other. To the anonymous fuck who could not post his/her name or spell worth a shit I'm not really sure that Taylee was agreeing with you, she might have been agreeing with the 15 year old guy. And thanks taylee, atleast someone knows what punk is. Hey old fag, how old are you? Like the clash old? You'r prolly some 15 year old kid sitting in ur basement wishing you knew something about punk. I agree wholeheartedly. Oh,is that what punk is all about? Dumbass. Oldpunker- The band made this CD because the songs ment something to them. The lyrics, the guitar, and yeah, maybe some songs sound the same, but that doesnt mean there bad songs, it only means that the same melody held two meanings to them. Thats what punk is all about. Every song might sound the same, but it's a hell of a song. to the beatles comment, don't try and be mr music man when you don't know shit. and don't make up fake shit to sound smart They may not sound like a new band on every track but some songs sound too similar to even be called different songs sometimes. Change has nothing to do with good music, think about it, there are to many aspects to a song to judge it for not being "different". The lyrics on this album are awsome, the guitarest kicks people like the Creed guitarists ass (who apparently is one of the best guitarists of our time, tch...). Thats what makes a good song. Not hearing what sounds like a different band on every track...( screw spelling) I made the comment 2 down and I give it an 8 not a 10 Yea and the little booklet in the cd is fucking confusing. haha This album didnt impress me at all. This is by far the best release this year but how far are we into the year and the DKM/Face to Face split hasnt come out, The new thursday hasnt come out yet, and the Rancid/NOFX split hasnt come out yet. I dont this this cd is anything special and some of the stuff bores me. Supersonic is an incredible song but along with Prove it, but Destined for Nothing and Broken are both nothing more than mediocre. I can understand someone enjoying this, I have on many occasions since my purchase, but I cant understand this being called anything more than very good... its no london calling, its no toxicity (to give a recent example). Its nothing groundbreaking its all just Bad Religion nothing that impesses me more than Stanger than Fiction. This is such a great album, it almost drove me to tears. I can't explain how someone can trash Bad Religion on the premise that At the Drive-In is a better band. Face it: ATDI robbed Fugazi's thunder (and they suck, what a combination). Whereas Greg Graffin writes insightful lyrics that make you ponder the world's habits and afflictions, good ol' ATDI never fails to write non-sensical lyrics a la Scott Weiland. I know the Process of Belief isn't a Take Off Your Pants and Jacket (please note the sarcasm) but it's worth a few thousand listens. I think it is funny how many ignorant people there are. The one that really get's me is the fat kid who tried to compare Bad Religion to bands like System of a Down and Incubus. I'm mean really what the shit is that! To the guy who said that Gurewitz and Graffin write separately while Lennon and McCartney wrote together...you are WRONG. L & M wrote together in the very early days, but that had ended by 1963. Get your facts straight. A lot of this stuff is too similar to everything else they have put out... This is no masterpiece and nothing incredbile but a decent album It's a good, solid rock album. Nothing too different from their earlier work. Not going to wade through the comments to see if this has been said, but here's a few thoughts: i agree that BR were starting to turn into a pennywise kinda thing, but with their last 2 albums they have changed their style dramaticly I'm sorry to say this, but I was not impressed with this one. I found it to be fairly mediocre (not to mention they are starting to play like they're 6o). Don't get me wrong, I love Bad Religion (in fact they are my favorite band). I just liked there old stuff better. I'm not talking about their 90's stuff, their 80's stuff can never be topped in my mind. I know that the person who posted 2 or 3 slots below me that said Bad Religion is boring but Incubus isn't just wrote that to try & piss people off, I mean .. you can't.. actually...be serious.. can ..you? ***trying to hold back laughter*** God damn, I love Bad Religion again. I had completely written them off after that little string of crappy records there. I had pretty much stopped even listening to their old stuff. But this album has pretty much made them my favorite band again. I can't stop listening to it. Well actually I can... to listen to their old stuff again. To all those out there who are fairly new to Bad Religion check out 'Suffer'. I just dusted it off today and it has got to be one of the best albums ever... by anyone. Is there a better 3 songs in a row ever than 'What Can You Do?', 'Do What You Want' and 'Part IV (the index fossil)'? 'You Are the Government', 'Give You Nothing', 'Land Of Competition', 'Best For You', all classics. You can't please everyone... amen to the last comment. I never got into the whole bad religion hype. I dont understand what everyone thinks is so amazing about them. They have been around for a long time and are still putting out decent music which may be why people have labeled them amazing. I however see past the mask of longevity and see that thereis nothing great about them. Nothing groundbreaking coming out by them now. Bands like System of a Down are putting out original stuff, bands like Incubus keep changing their osund and keep giving a new sound to music (even though their last album blew). Bad Religion is putting out the same sound they always have, with the exception of a few tracks.Bad Religon is going to have to do a lot better than this to impress me. Its still decent just not a masterpiece of any kind. These tracks keep my attention for hours, when catchy material like Broken and sorrow are blended in with cheesey antics like you dont belong, you are definately onto a winner. This album has that special something that cannot be described in words. I just cant help feeling that the boys try to hard sometimes, the magic lies beneath the older tracks for sure and lets face it, nothing will ever match 21st centure digital boy. Bad Religion has let me down in the past but suprisingly they diden't this time.I thought that after the new america that they should pack it up and go the fuck home. But with killer songs like can't stop it, supersonic,and kyoto now I soon forgave the mistakes of the buys and they have won their way onto my favorites again. If Brooks Whackerman wasn't there I bet they'd still suck. just listen to suicidal tendencies-freedumb then listen to The new america and you'll agree i've never heard bad religion before the pet psychic lady is a quack "the defense" gives me chills during the chorus. Yeah!!!!it new Bad Religion albun is fucking amazing!!! Amen to the last comment,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz once again people are throwing around that awfull word masterpiece,please dont use that word to describe what the real "m" word is to describe this album bad religion is the best band in the world! this cd doesnt have a single song that comes close to bad. how can you not give this five stars? its a fucking masterpiece. Anyone who like Bad Religion would probably also like going here http://www.mp3.com/thesilentfilmstars. Bad Religion can never be topped when it comes to energetic, melodic, pissed off and passionate music. They are a punk rock band with the intelligence of Einstein. And the fact that they wrote a song in German (Punk Rock Song) just seals the deal. "Process of Belief" is their best work to date, followed by The Grey Race, Stranger Than Fiction, and No Substance (Raise Your Voice with Campino from Die Toten Hosen rocks). I hope everyone gives them a listen. Its pretty awesome for a band to never have written a single bad song. wo this has been there best album since starnger than fiction...i hears mr brett was coming back but i didnt know it would be this awesome Good old Bad Religion From the perspective of one who enterd the punk scene with a strong bias built in against such bands as Bad Religion, one can naturally spot the internal conflict that accompanied my first purchase of "The Gray Race" and "Recipe For Hate." I could not, however deny the potency of the few tracks i had heard off these tracks and such left me with a desire to seek out other albums by this oft alientated punk rock icon. As time progressed over the past few years, I found myself growing more and more fond of Bad Religion's style (even in the absence of Mr. Brett) and with my collection completed with the purchase of "The Process of Belief," I now find it impossible to deny that this group has surpassed my previous favorite bands (No Use For A Name, Lagwagon, Pulley, and Zero Down) as truly the best music I have ever heard. In my own opinion, Gurewitz's return is merely the icing on the cake that this album furnished. Thanks to these guys, punk rock attained a new, non-political-based intellectualism that is so rare in the realm of great, fast-paced music in the modern day. Bad religion has become one of the first bands I have ever known to produce not a single song I could say I have disliked. Keep up the good work! Ahh...this album blows me away. I mean yah, its not really groundbreaking, but it is the high quality we have come to expect from Bad Religion. Let people say what they want. In the end, Bad Religon is still one of the greatest punk bands ever. hey guys great job... don't listen to the negative comments ,cuz they do not know the meaning of bad religion. This is an asume cd, the process of belief is the best of bad religion i've heard yet. It's getting better and better. looking forward for future cd's and i'll see you guys in montreal This album is the most solid, fast, well-crafted, beautiful Bad Religion album (or any album) in years. i find it sad and telling that there are so many topics that are so valid and worth discussing on this album and all people can do here is bitch about label politics, blink 182 and basic bullshit opinions. such subtle signs of a decaying and dead society. BIG JERK: yea your right... it sound exactly the same... same chords, except bad religion uses it throughout the whole song but still i guess they sound the same. wierd... oh well great punk bands think alike.. and at least they're not like hoobaskankers Is it just me, or does the intro to Epiphany sound like the intro to "Stickin' In My Eye" by NOFX...? I would never call myself a punk, because then I'd have to claim all you arguing, narrow-minded, "You are a moron because you like Blink. Blink fans are the enemy!", dolts as my peers. Bad Religion is more than just a funk rock band. They are a funky institution. They have existed for almost 4 years and have always been a part of the musical evolution that is independent music. Your Limp Bizkits, your Yannis, your Dave Matthews; none of them would exist if it wasn’t for Bad Religion. It is only fitting, then, that “The Process Of Belief” blows all of those bands [and about 2 more] out of the water. Amazing,brilliant,and rightieously angry. 21 years of greatness. I dont think it gets any better when they sing 'when a man loves a women'. punk rwok The return of Bad Religion ! This Album is hauntingly (If thats even a word) amazing, there is so much variety in there tunes but if you will find that suffer, no control, against the grain and the grey race are the best.(My humble opinion) This is the best stuff that they have done in a while Hey guys I´m from Germany .... This is one of the greatest Albums i ever heard! Oh by the way, the last post was from me. To atimeparadox: You are a fucking loser. You must get beat up alot. Why don't you become a cop or something. You seem to fit you profile. Hi I'm Alex from Italy: this new BR's record is........ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE....I love them and all their fans!!!! Just for the record, At The Drive-In doesn't suck. I like both At The Drive In and Bad Religion.... And I would say Bad Religion is more original. Like I said before, how many bands sounded like them 20 years ago? How many bands sound like ATDI? A hell of a lot. 'Like Epitaph was ever underground'. Well actually it was up until the Offspring got popular. Atimeparadox, you are an Idiot! Bad Religion is PUNK! Who the f*$# is At the Drive In? They suck! You need to get some taste, but since your are probably a teeny bopper who has only been listening to punk since you came out of diapers (just recently) I guess that is asking too much. I can't stand kids like you who think they are punk, and think they know what punk is. Punk is a lot more than blink, sum 41, and new found glory, and just because you like these bands and being "punk" is the in thing nowadays, doesn't mean that you have the right to criticize a band as great and legendary as Bad Religion. At The Drive In happens to be more popular at my school than Bad Religion smart guy. Additionally, At The Drive In blows. This whole avant-gard sorta punk thing is pissin me off, and this whole slew of bands comin out following the likes of ATDI, well they just suck. Bad Religion may not be all that original, but the truth is they started it. Everyone else is just copying them, and it really isn't their fault that the poser punks fell into them. It's hard to stay underground when you maintain a standard of excellence for 20 fucking years. Let's see if ATDI is around in 19... make it 5... years. asshole. I don't fuck w/ the album score bull shit cause i don't really care. If you want to hear an original band listen to At the Drive In. Bad Religion have been suckin dicks for a long time now and why the fuck even bother releasing another album and going back "Underground" like epitaph was ever underground. No its just bull shit when you see people want to hear the new bad religion album just because "mr. brett" is back in it. I don't give a fuck who's in bad religion they've been making bad music for awhile now. Go hang out at the fucking mall w/ your other 14 year old "skate-punks" punk is fucking dead so get over the shit. punk is a cult, with bad religion, blink 182, nofx, and rancid as the popes :) hahahaha. sad eh? PUNK IS DA TREND Y'ALL! you might wanna read this piece o shit http://www.havocrex.com/column2.html and see it from the hardcore perspective. no no no it's not about blink bashing or whatever, just read it :) Bad Religion is back! Only after hearing this truly wonderfull piece of work did I realize how much the New America had sucked. The review is prettu dead-on however I'm convinced that Epiphany is the best track on the record. To all out there who think that listening to punk rock makes you a punkrocker.. i have some advice for you.. Just becuase the media lables Blink182 as punk, doesn't mean they live the punk life.. To live punk, is to die for it... The guys at Bad Religion, live and die for punkrock.. It is obvious in this new album.. Punkrock is about unity, and not division.. Bad Religion unifys all of what is real in this world, they just have the balls to say it.. To the guys at Bad Religion i give you my praise, and continue the amazing work.. NOFX blows big donkey dick. |
