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New Found Glory / A Day to Remember

live in Farmingdale (2008)
Epitaph Records

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Contributed by: Brian
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Published on September 26th 2008

New Found Glory's Easycore Tour 2008 presented a lesson in contrast. The band was playing a "hardcore-oriented tour" in smaller clubs than they've played in some time, complete with one band on the tour from an actual hardcore label and assuring that there would be a small handful of covers of hardcore bands (tonight, Gorilla Biscuits and Suicide File). Except, there were also covers of pop songs (Sixpence None the Richer, Kelly Clarkson), NFG are doing this in a tour bus, and their T-shirts (two of which were ironically GB and Judge ripoff designs) were $20.

But those glaring inconsistencies and ironies were overshadowed by the fact that NFG's set was fun. Like, really fun. But let's talk openers first.

Crime in Stereo's set was unfortunately cut short, stripped from 20 minutes to 15. Bummer, since I was probably looking forward to them just as much as NFG (and more than anyone else on the show). I overheard something about NFG's manager being present at the show and wanting things to move ahead of schedule. Wonderful, since that wasn't even accomplished as NFG finished their own set two minutes after the scheduled end time.

Anyway, they played fairly well, but were a bit damaged by the sound. Kristian Hallbert's vocals became extremely low midway through the set, though maybe he was already losing his voice; apparently he was sick, so that probably didn't help. The band busted through a six-song set evenly split between their last two full-lengths to roughly ten really stoked kids and an otherwise unfamiliar audience. They're definitely improving their live renditions of Is Dead songs, as steady and slow as that practice may be. Alex Dunne is experimenting more with his guitar tones and finding better, cleaner fits than before. Not a bad set, but it probably would have been 10x better for them to have had those five minutes and maybe fill it with epic closer "I, Stateside."

Set list (6:59-7:14):

Everything Changes / Nothing Is Truly Ever Lost
Bicycles for Afghanistan
XXXX (The First 1000 Years of Solitude)
Third Atlantic
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Small Skeletal
Abre Los Ojos

I originally thought it was pretty insulting to have the one Long Island band play first (before a joke band, no less), but the International Superheroes of Hardcore sure gained a healthy fanbase packaging that album with the Tip of the Iceberg EP. They came out in their superhero shirts, while Chad Gilbert sported a gray zipup, hood up and face covered by a black ski mask or something. A pit of dudes that probably get unironically stoked on Madball unironically moshed and sang along to ridiculous songs like "Back to the Future" and "Captain Straight Edge." The band's reaction was seriously sorta big; even bystanders shouted along and pumped their fists to familiar declarations like "Screamo gotta go!" They were better live than on CD; I can say that much. It was more funny than fun, and it was nice to have a legit...sort of...okay, hardcore-sounding band playing. Jordan Pundik wasn't a terrible guitarist, either...not that he was challenged much.

Set list (7:34-7:46):

ISHC Theme Song
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Captain Straight Edge
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? (eBay Revenge?)
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Seat Belt
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Back to the Future
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Madball's Got Our Backs

Then it was Four Year Strong's turn. They had superb energy, engaged the crowd like complete pros and played nicely. Too bad they're doing bastardized pop-punk / pseudo-melodic hardcore with totally unnecessary frills like double-bass, cheese city keyboard and pointless breakdowns. I mean, fuck, they're not a horrible band, and this performance certainly evidenced it -- they had kids awkwardly two-stepping and limb flailing nearly as much A Day to Remember would later on, and upbeat sing-alongs could be seen going all the way back to the bar. But whatever they're doing, it just isn't for me; it all sounds a little contrived and rather cartoonish.

Even they showed their hardcore roots, though. Their keyboardist stepped up to do the main vocals for a cover Suicide File's "Ashcroft," which was done well enough. I like Suicide File but none of their songs are entirely distinct to me. I certainly didn't expect anyone else to get psyched, and as expected there was minimal response in that department. At least it wasn't like the other night here, when the Ataris covered "Hybrid Moments" and "Rise Above" to several dozen completely clueless teens. Man, what a scene.

Set list (8:02-8:32):

Prepare to Be Digitally Manipulated
The Takeover
"Beatdown in the Key of Happy" -or- "Put You On"
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Catastrophe
Maniac (R.O.D.)
Abandon Ship or Abandon All Hope
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Ashcroft [Suicide File cover]
Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Hell
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Bada Bing! Wit' a Pipe!
Heroes Get Remembered, Legends Never Die

But ugh, at least they weren't A Day to Remember. More like, A Set to Forget. How does anyone not crack up when a band opens with some randomly brutal mosh part and then busts into a super whiny fourth-rate Saves the Day melody? Granted, like Four Year Strong, they were tight enough, but their sound is so outrageous it's hard to understand anyone taking them even remotely serious. It's like the contrasting ends of Stretch Arm Strong stretched to the most ridiculous proportions possible. And there was so many mosh parts. So many. And they sounded precisely put in place only for kids to look dumb exercising. At least Victory Records has found a profitable way to help curb child obesity.

To see the whole venue shouting along and an enormous pit actin' a fool was mind-boggling; ADTR's response easily matched that of NFG's. I mean, when they did their Kelly Clarkson cover of "Since U Been Gone" (expectedly nowhere near the quality of Ted Leo's version), there wasn't really that many more people audibly singing along.

Set list (8:56-9:30):

Fast Forward to 2012
Speak of the Devil
The Danger in Starting a Fire
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Show 'Em the Ropes
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Monument
A Shot in the Dark
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Since U Been Gone [Kelly Clarkson cover]
Why Walk on Water, When We've Got Boats
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You Should Have Killed Me When You Had the Chance
The Plot to Bomb the Panhandle

After reshaping my definition of tedious, I was ready for pop-punk that was a little more pure...you know, as far as the 21st century is concerned. Sure, New Found Glory wasn't perfect -- Jordan's voice was comically nasal a lot of the time and some sloppy stop-starts soured the dynamism. And yeah, they played some of their less-than-stellar songs ("Singled Out," "Hold My Hand," "Forget My Name"), but more often than not, it was just fun. There was plenty of room on the floor to bounce around and sing along ("Better Off Dead"? Stoked.). Mosh activity was limited to more awkward dancing, a circle pit here and there and the occasional douche, but nothing entirely irritating at all (except to one girl, perhaps, who retaliated with an amusing attempted blow to the head to someone who didn't seem to be causing any real trouble).

I would point out the absurdity of Jordan wearing a Verse shirt, but you have to imagine that Bridge Nine just sent the band a box full of shirts at some point to help promote things.

Speaking of which, the small collection of hardcore kids in attendance obviously went off for "No Reason Why," as well as some of the older songs. Chad attested playing it over "Cutting the Tension" to the fact that they were in New York, after all.

Speaking of older songs, Chad mentioned that they had to play something off of Nothing Gold Can Stay since it was a tour of this nature, and began to suggest songs. He first said "Passing Time" and it got a few cheers. Then he asked about "3rd and Long" and it got way more cheers. What gives? "Passing Time" fucking kills the rest of that record -- to have actually heard that live after buying that album probably seven or eight years ago after the band had blown up would've been incredible. Oh well. "3rd and Long" certainly wasn't bad.

Jordan occasionally propped himself against the barrier for more intimate sing-alongs, and some were willing to take advantage, climbing over everyone else to shout back quintessential jams like "Hit or Miss." Even Chad did the same at a few points, letting a roadie or someone handle guitar duties for that time being.

When thanking the opening bands for coming out, starting with Crime in Stereo, they took the time to give shoutouts to the Movielife, Silent Majority and even Tripface, which was amusing. ("To tame the 'L' word!!" Chad and Jordan rabbled back and forth.)

Set list (10:09-11:17):

At Least I'm Known for Something
Understatement
Better Off Dead
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All Downhill from Here
Something I Call Personality
All About Her
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Kiss Me [Sixpence None the Richer cover]
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Tip of the Iceberg
Singled Out
Failure's Not Flattering
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No Reason Why [Gorilla Biscuits cover]
Hit or Miss
Hold My Hand
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3rd and Long
Truth of My Youth
Forget My Name
Encore:
Dig My Own Grave
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Situations
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Intro
My Friends Over You

So, yeah. The conclusion can probably be drawn from the mixed results of this show -- I had more than enough fun during NFG to make up for the iffy aspects that otherwise made up Easycore 2008. Plus, the Mets came back to win in extra innings and stayed tied for the wild card. Now that's crucial.

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xgorillaxstompsx (October 2, 2008)

hey dudes!

i was at the Jersey show... and everyone played the same sets with the exception of Crime In Stereo, they played for about a legit 25mins.

And New Found Glory played these songs on top of the set list you posted.
Cut The Tension (Lifetime cover)
Dressed To Kill
Head on Collision
one more song, i cant remember off the top of my head

They made fun of Four Years Strong and A Day To Remember, which was funny as hell. haha
Before they started there set, you can hear Ian playing Dammit from Blink 182.

the crowd was rather violent, but when NFG went on. It was more relaxed and everyone was having fun.

VictorIkpeba24 (September 30, 2008)

I've always hated A Day To Remember, even though I love almost every band that are compared to them. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one to think they are totally ridiculous.

fox82 (September 30, 2008)

ISHC > NFG

paulrulzdood (September 29, 2008)

who cares if jordan listens to hardcore bands or not, NFG is not a hardcore band nor have they ever pretended to be, they are a self-admitted pop punk band with a slight hardcore influence in their riffs & breakdowns due to Chad's roots, time in that hardcore band he was in whos name escapes me and his love for hardcore and I guess some of the other guys listen to it. but why this is even an issue or question, who cares?

inagreendase (September 29, 2008)

Jordan is into a lot of current hardcore bands, if you've every taken the time to talk to him, you would know that. Way to be a douche.

If I saw him milling about the show beforehand I may have. But they didn't really seem to be out and about.

paulrulzdood (September 29, 2008)

good reveiw, i was a the pittsburgh stop of this tour.

we got the exact same NFG set except they played "vegas" in place of "better off dead" but they skipped "situations" and the "nothing gold can stay" song (guess they felt there wasn't enough old school NFG fans there to play it, bummer considering I'm 28 and have been going to NFG shows for 8 years) but overall they kicked ass and were clearly the best band in terms of live performance, songwriting, tightness of musicianship and vocals.

that was the thing that stood out the most, yea, FYS, ADTR and CIS are all real good at cookiemonster screams and shouts and what not, but it was nice when Jordan got up there and I got to hear some actual singing for the first time of the night.

FYS were the second best band, great energy, pretty good musically but the singer sounds nothing like he does on CD and relies on shouting/screaming a lot more live than he does on CD. also, the keyboard guy is pretty much useless, he just jumps around on stage the whole time like that random dude in Avail and maybe once a song he plays a simple moog line. he kindo f annooyed me aftera wile.

ADTR was terrible, i've heard this shit before when it was called hawthorne heights and senses fail and saosin, etc. just boring hardcore/emocore mall crap, totally unimpressed and their fans are largely douchebags, lots of girl capris on men while their female fans are ironically overweight and the male fans are wearing female clotes, the girls are wearing mens t shirtts, something is wrong with this picture.

crime in stereo i thought were a local band, they seemed really green, looked to be a bout 16 and seemed awkward in their stage presence.

ISHOHC are just a joke, i thoguht it was funny for a song or two but was glad when their set was over pretty quickly.

Amazingthemike (September 28, 2008)

Jordan is into a lot of current hardcore bands, if you've every taken the time to talk to him, you would know that. Way to be a douche.

thirtyseconds (September 28, 2008)

Ha ha Scott. You have the contacts. Make it happen.

Seeing this soon in Manchester. £3 beers ahoy!

RedElephant (September 28, 2008)

cant say much about any other band here but Four Year Strong is really good live. on cd that's another story....

johnnydanger (September 27, 2008)

Not a fan of this tour or the reviewers tone the whole time.

maverick (September 27, 2008)

"At least Victory Records has found a profitable way to help curb child obesity."

I really, really hope this will be used on a sticker for A Day To Remember's next CD.

-Scott

mattp330 (September 27, 2008)

i just busted out nothing gold can stay. brian's right, it would be much cooler to hear passing time then 3rd and long

maladroit (September 27, 2008)

I really wanna see Abre Los Ojos live, I'm jealous

jamespastepunk (September 27, 2008)

Wait, Four Year Strong covered Ashcroft? Now I'm sad I left before their set ended in Erie.

Sigh....

timorous_me (September 27, 2008)

I don't think it's weird that Jordan would be wearing a Verse shirt, the guys have been into hardcore way longer than they've even been in NFG.

But I do agree about Passing Time. Really, as much as I like 3rd and Long, they play it at pretty much every tour, so it would be nice to hear some variety (You've Got a Friend in PA would be my pick)

mattp330 (September 27, 2008)

after last night its all over for the mets. phils are two up and the brewers should be able to at least win one of the last two with sheets and sabathia pitching. of course its c.c.'s thrid start in the last nine days, im waiting for a break down like he had against the sox in the playoffs any day now

bryne (September 27, 2008)

Goddammit, if Crime In Stereo only play for 15 minutes when I see this next week I'll be pissed.

4thand26 (September 27, 2008)

Hate to be be picky, but the "Tell all my friends I'm dead..." song is called "Forget My Name".

Oh, and the Mets are a complete joke. Is Reyes doing any more of those pompous celebration dances he loves so much now that he's gone 2-14 in their last 3 games and they're on the verge of cementing their status as the biggest chokers in baseball? Pathetic!

colin (September 27, 2008)

man, i recognize about four songs from that NFG setlist. shows how much they've done that i care absolutely nothing for. too bad. and 3rd and long is better than passing time, sorry dude.

heybarmold (September 27, 2008)

A Day to Remember was absolutely unnecessary. 20 more minutes of crime in stereo and the rest of the ISHC album would have made the Petaluma show much more worth the 2 hour drive.

eazyd2 (September 27, 2008)

needs more cowbell.

Torgo (September 27, 2008)

Really pissed I kept forgetting to get tickets for the Jersey show and letting that sell out on me.

Holy_Balls (September 27, 2008)

sense u ben gonn lol