Interviews: Anti-Flag, Part 1

Posted by aubin on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 6:00 PM (EST)

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kingofpain (March 21, 2006)

I've been waiting for this to be posted forever.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Well they join the ranks with other sell out so-call punk bands....yes they play punk...and not bad at all....been a fan for years....but they signed to a big label to get there message across....FUCK them...there on the list of the "punk band that could" AKA AFI, Alkaline Trio and others.....Whats next jerry finn to produce there next cd....FUCK them and Fuck RCA.... I HOPE THEY GET DROPED....And yes Chris # 2 i hope u see this...u lost me as a fan

Someone (March 22, 2006)

i bet he won't be able to sleep at night after reading this

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I saw these guys live. They're great. This is a good solid cd, but I don't know if I like it more than The Terror State. ~Jason

Someone (March 22, 2006)

the terror state sucked go back to die for the government or a new kind of army

TheOneTrueBill (March 21, 2006)

More like # poo!

ESSER (March 21, 2006)

i don't even know what to say about this band anymore!

Someone (March 21, 2006)

i know "who cares"

Someone (March 21, 2006)

dont worry if you wait long enough the cool kids will tell you what to say.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Where's the Bigwig interview?

thebiglebowski (March 21, 2006)

I feel like these jokes should have gotten old by now but they still crack me up

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Forget that. Where's the Whole Wheat Bread interview?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

fuck you douchebag, you're a lame ass bitch

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Excuse me?

Someone (March 22, 2006)

who gizzashit?

colin (March 21, 2006)

huge ass interview. good stuff.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Crap cd.

___waltz (March 21, 2006)

I e-mailed the band on myspace and #2 answered by talking about the symantics of RCA and whether or not 'turncoat' was on mtv, minor details.

mediocregenerica (March 21, 2006)

They did that in '03 or '04 it was None More Black, Against Me!, Rise Against and Anti-Flag. Pretty rad show. The only way I'd go see Anti-Flag again would be with some one as amazing as Against Me!

mediocregenerica (March 21, 2006)

shit, swing and miss on my part. wrong coment.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

semantics. just for future reference.

___waltz (March 22, 2006)

thank you.

fox82 (March 21, 2006)

Let the hating begin

fritobandito (March 21, 2006)

well. at least they seem reasonably happy about their role as a "gateway into actual punk music" band.

punkpauline (March 21, 2006)

punkpauline does not like this band. they are just not punk enough. either are punkphil or punkpaul. i bring the estrogen ya cunts and yes X wrote the song about me, just in case you were wondering. that's just how punk I am.

Godfather (March 21, 2006)

sounds like you just got fired from mad tv

___waltz (March 21, 2006)

Zing!

the_other_scott (March 21, 2006)

ha. if you'd been saving that one, you picked a good time to use it. if not, it was pretty fucking funny anyways.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Well, um, like, y'know, um uh, yeah.

wildo (March 21, 2006)

Fuck, that interview was annoying to read.

skaboom (March 21, 2006)

That's how people speak in real life.

DrDanYemin (March 21, 2006)

No, that's how retarded people speak in real life. Luckily I only expose myself to intellectual types.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Wow..you maybe be the biggest asshole I've ever seen post on here. What an elitist fuck! Wow!

Someone (March 21, 2006)

its a joke chuckles

skaboom (March 21, 2006)

1. The name isn't funny, and PIB read this website. 2. We all speak like that, it's just much more noticable when transcribed. I'm not sure why the interviewer chose to transcribe the "uhs" but spoken English is usually riddled with grammatical errors.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

i don't know who you hang out with man, but i try to think before i speak and speak clearly. sure everybody says "um" sometimes, but if you can't go five minutes without saying "um", something is wrongum.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

It's called a speech impediment. Many people have them. You're being highly pretentious and attacking the irrelevent details of the interview because you have no valid points about the content. If you're being asked a question requiring a long answer, do you take two or three minutes to sort out the exact wording of your response? Probably not. Point is, some people have a habit of using "um"s and "well"s. You don't have to be an asshole about it.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

lame

DarrenMcLeod (March 21, 2006)

Haha, that was bugging me, too.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I hate the way these preening fucks always pose like a Victory band in press photos. Though I guess they'd fit right in on that label.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

So now the way the STAND is wrong?! Their posture not good enough for you? Well, I guess it's time to meet the stance police, now. For fuck's sake... I hate the way you pretentious fucks attack all of the irrelevent bullshit. I hope you fall into a blender.

the_other_scott (March 21, 2006)

huh?

TheOneTrueBill (March 21, 2006)

I met one of the WorldCan'tWait.org people at the Chicago jazz fest last September. He had a bullhorn and was handing out a bunch of leaflets and was really wacky but really cool. He had a chant going of "Drive Out the Bush Regime" as a crowd of mostly smooth jazz listeners were leaving and induced a look of terror like I've never seen. It was amazing.

darkstarm (March 21, 2006)

The World Can't Wait people are all over the Chi. I'm probably gonna get involved with them once I graduate. Hot damn, graduation!

TheOneTrueBill (March 21, 2006)

yeah, they were all over the march downtown last Saturday. It's good to see that their message is getting out.

Someone (April 5, 2006)

DO NOT join WCW. They are a front group for an authoritarian Maoist group called the Revolutionary Communist Party. They are top-down and terrible.

http://www.worldcantwake.org

Its better to suck and fuck until your knees wobble than squander your youth on reformist politics.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

They couldn't have signed to their own record label. That they own. That's named after them.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Actually, they've always contended that the "A-F" in A-F Records, stands for "Ah Fuck". Strange, but true.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Yeah, I remember that. They mentionned A-F records to Justin's father, I believe, and he said something like "What's that, ahh fuck?". They stuck with it. Or, my memory might be a little off. But I seem to remember this is one of their past interviews.

jamespastepunk (March 21, 2006)

"the same deck of crazy" Wonderful!

Godfather (March 21, 2006)

damn, i'll have to read this later

Godfather (March 21, 2006)

btw, thanks aubin

Someone (March 21, 2006)

love it when the news man can't really put together a sentence... surely you mean POLITICALLY RADICAL.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

why do punkers where tight ass pants again? i am seeing more and mopre 14-16 year olds (by the looks of their scrawny bodies) bringing back the stupid tight as hell pants....

Someone (March 21, 2006)

haven't they always worn tight ass pants?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

well, for awhile, i thought it went away. but still doesnt answer why?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

trends come and go

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Because its way cooler than huge baggie pants. Iggy Pop wore tight pants, what other reasons are needed?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

It's a fad. Some people like it. Who cares?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

good band..very interessant interview too bad for the haters..the last album is really good

Someone (March 21, 2006)

this guy takes french

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Communist poser

___waltz (March 21, 2006)

I would dig an Anti-Flag/Against Me! tour, because he's talking about touring with 'politically minded' bands.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I would love to have seen that three years ago. Oh wait, I did. That already happened.

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

Headliner - Anti-Flag 2nd Spot pool The (International) Noise Conspiracy RX Bandits Against Me! Opener The Unseen Strike Anywhere Bigwig They need to make a bill out of that.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

They already toured together a few years back. Anti-Flag Against Me! None More Black The Unseen

Someone (March 21, 2006)

actually the unseen didnt play any of those shows, but they are on tour with them now.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

saw it 2 years ago Anti-Flag Rise Against Against Me! and Thought Riot it was a great show

___waltz (March 22, 2006)

now that everyone's mentioned that it already happened, let me point out that I don't care, and would like to see it again.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

yeah, i saw them the two bands with rise against, and that was a really fun show. but i really want to see Rise Against and Against Me! tour they can call it the Rise Against Me! tour :)

Someone (March 22, 2006)

that's the most overused joke ever.. ...maybe not ever, but yeah

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Good interview Aubin. I know a lot of the kids will bag Anti Flag for being on RCA and in some sense they may be correct. But if you remember most of the original punk bands were on major labels. But regardless of the major label agrument America needs a band like Anti Flag right now. I'm 37 and grew up on the anti-Reagan, anti-establishment punk rock and that's been missing for far to long. A little politics and a little kick in the ass to the normal status of American life is good and esepcially in the year 2006!! Pat

Aubin (March 21, 2006)

Thanks for the kind words; I totally agree. Each leader, Thatcher, Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 inspired a lot of young people to start bands and speak out, and it seems like these days, the band's have managers telling them to make sure they can play in Peoria. I'm glad Anti-Flag is actually living up to their promise.

drewcifer (March 21, 2006)

hey pat thanks but no thanks, maybe you remember that the "original" punk bands didn't have much of a choice when it came to record labels, major or ummmm major. your pal drew age 26 and a half. p.s. look at those friggen clowns, seriously.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Gotta go with Drewcifer here. They had an option, that being their ethics or money, and look what won. These guy are, and in fact always have been a fucking joke. The majors saw how big Green Day's "political" (and I use that word in the most basic and retarded sense possible) album went and decided to grab a few more from the willing stable of bands willing to cut their own throats to be famous. On top of all of that, their music is abysmal. Your average 3-chord rants against "the man." If that's all it takes to be "politically conscious," then you need to readjust your standards. The record store I work at, for instance, got some 7"s to give away with the new record and on the back of said 7" is the little blurb at the bottom: "Thanks: The Kids No Thanks: The Man" or something along those lines. How fucking middle-school quality anarchy patch and dyed hair juvenile is that? Anti-Flag is bad music, plain and simple and their "image" is equally, if not moreso, retarded.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

They didn't have a choice? That's not totally true, there has been indie labels from day one, most of all the U.S original 77 bands were on indie labels but the big one's like the Clash, Ramones etc. were all on major labels. I guess I'm talking about the Clash here since they were the political band who was on a a major label. Major labels suck in the sense that there's only a few of them now days and those few suck the life out of everything else. But there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between some of these so called "indie" labels and the majors. If you have something to say are you supposed to just keep at a certain level and keep preaching to the choir? People like Bob Dylan, Joan Baez and others from the 60's probably would have never had the impact on the anti-war movemnt during their time had they been on small indie labels. At this point in time who cares if a band is on a major. A kid can still like Anti Flag while on RCA and if he or she is really into the scen they can still go buy the new DEAD STOP album on Havoc Records. That's the big problem is that so many of the kids who like Anti Flag aren't part of a scene, it's not Anti Flag being on a major. Pat

Someone (March 22, 2006)

So here's the point where I ask you to justify getting your checks from a label that is heavily involved at a corporate level with what you're preaching against. I doubt you'll be back to answer that one.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

i dont feel like reading all of that. will someone please summarize?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

anti flag = punk

cramer (March 21, 2006)

this interview sure would be a lot easier to read if either the interviewer or #2 knew how to speak in cohesive sentences.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Y'know, I was thinking, um, the same thing. But I think #2 got the message across. He used his platform well. Good interviewish.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

why didnt you ask them about against me! selling out?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

he was referring to the bad tour they dropped off. wasn't that with dropkick murphys? what was that all about?

LosPeptobismol (March 21, 2006)

Yeah that's some shit from like six years ago. What happened was somebody in DKM got pissed at Anti-Flag for disrespecting the flag (deuhrr) and apparently threatened members of the band with some threats of violence if they did it again. Or so the story went.

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

Whattabuncha hooligans.

andrew13 (March 21, 2006)

hey kirby or anyone else from pittsburgh, is pittpunk down?

radioXwaves (March 21, 2006)

the message board is back. apparently social is redoing the entire site.

Glackmisunkda (March 25, 2006)

Im from Pittsburgh. PittPunk hasn't died, just anti-flag.

darkstarm (March 21, 2006)

This is probably the best interview I've ever seen on the org. Fantastic stuff. Now to hit the shit: It's fantastic that Anti-Flag is using the money they've acquired to really attack issues that matter to them. I'm sure most of the bands out there right now writing socially-aware music would love to have a huge booklet full of what I'm sure is at least half pretty intelligent stuff, and fuckin' start up organizations all over the place and use their influence to go to Capitol HIll. This is good stuff that they are doing,undeniably. I'm not even an Anti-Flag fan, I don't hate them or anything but ya know, I definitely am a casual observer in all this. I'm glad they're doing this.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Very good interview.

Staxic (March 21, 2006)

I'd rather kids buy Anti-Flag than gangsta rap. But I think they've gotten a little whiney in their sheltered lives.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I'd rather have kids purchase good music than shitty music. Not to mention, at least rappers have a clue of what they're talking about.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

which rappers are we talking about?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I mean, y'know, y'know, I mean...

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

Looks like this major label move is really working out for them. Awesome.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

the new album is really good.

SlackMFr (March 21, 2006)

listen to other things you twat, these guys don't have a creative cell in their bodies.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Holy fuck, sir, you are one pretentious dick.

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

I'm thinking I will pick this album up at some point now. They've convinced me.

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

Oh - and it would be next to impossible for any member of Anti-Flag to ever hold a high position in office. All the media would have to do is plaster the lyrics to "Kill The Rich" all over the news, and the campaign would be done for.

punk1088 (March 21, 2006)

i always wanted to know what they think about leftover crack, being that they gave a few lines of vocals to via sin dios on fuck world trade

Hubitcherkokov (March 21, 2006)

They get along pretty well, I think. Before they eventually settled on Alternative Tentacles, there was talk of LOC releasing "Fuck World Trade" on A-F Records.

punk1088 (March 21, 2006)

really? well they did put a song or two on one of theose af comps. doesnt seem like theyd get along with all of loc's views on cops, adn a few other issues

Someone (March 21, 2006)

They prolly take that shit with a grain of salt, even stza himself that he doesnt want people to go out and kill cops. He's just stating the extreme, because honestly no one likes cops but if he says "Kill Cops" you know there is a whole lotta hate there. -mediocregenerica-

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Well I will say first on the record that as I, as all of us have heard the criticism's of Anti Flag that you are involved with the band until you're 17 or 18 and then you move on, um I have no problem with Anti Flag being classified as the gateway drug to activism. No problem. Because I think that young people 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and then obviously our cut-off limit which is 18, have a right to hear these sort of things, and like I said earlier, if they move onto other avenues of political activism and sort of pushing for the equality and freedom that we all care about as members of this political punk scene, none of us have single problem with that. I do think that it is a common misconception that our songs are trite, because we work very hard on them and we put together these booklets and this information, more and more as we get older because we realize there's a responsibility to not just sing along to the chorus of the song, but to get involved.

LosPeptobismol (March 21, 2006)

You can copy and paste AND use an italics tag? Somebody get this kid a job with Microsoft.

mediocregenerica (March 21, 2006)

"this political process, this quote-unquote democracy needs to be hijacked and that's what we want to use Punk Voter to do". Is that why on the Punk Voter Tour they had a Democratic Party Rep. lecture the audience? That quote may be true now, but on that tour it was a deffinite, "lets vote for the lesser of two evils" message.

fistchode (March 21, 2006)

Fat Mike wanted Punk Voter to be about voting for Kerry. All Chris is saying is that it wasn't what he wanted Punk Voter to do.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Totally, I wasnt ball-bustin' i just feel like that show/ tour was a democratic rally dressed up like rebellion. -mediocregenerica-

Someone (March 21, 2006)

i love detailed interviews. good job!

dougkatz (March 21, 2006)

new saves the day leaked.

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

you mean saves the gay

Someone (March 21, 2006)

you mean "shaves the gay"... tee-hee

blinkrules (March 21, 2006)

these guys music kind of remind me of Panic at the Disco.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

huhuhuhu good one

Someone (March 21, 2006)

You're an idiot. Panic at the Disco sound nothing like Anti-Flag. I don't even like them, but I can still hear properly.

Godfather (March 21, 2006)

congratulations, you're retarded

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

nice

colin (March 21, 2006)

hahahaha

Someone (March 21, 2006)

haha. Dumbass communist.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

"these guys music" ?? that doesnt even make sense learn some grammar

blinkrules (March 21, 2006)

sorry about the grammar, but there music just sound like everyone else on MTV.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

their

Kid_Dynamite_ (March 21, 2006)

is anyone else sick of chris' mohawk?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I don't care. I listen to bands for the music. I don't give a shit about fashion.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

yeah, but these shitheads DO care about fashion. you have to be a certain kind of douchebag to care about fashion.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

And apparently you care about fashion as well, since you're judging them based on it.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Good point.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Yeah, the misfits, the clash, T.S.O.L., the aquabats, the addicts, the stooges, and nearly all street punk bands are douchebags. Why do you care what they wear?

the_other_scott (March 21, 2006)

how the fuck do you put the aquabats in that equation? and also i always think the street punk look is pretty goofy.

Kid_Dynamite_ (March 21, 2006)

yeah im all down with anti-flag, but they have increasingly become what they said they hated for so long: Fashion punks

RiseAgainstSSCC (March 21, 2006)

Chris has a mohawk?

SlackMFr (March 22, 2006)

I'm sick of the whole damn lot of them.

Hubitcherkokov (March 21, 2006)

"The Terror State" was their worst album, lyrically. The music, while a pretty big departure from their older stuff, wasn't bad, but, man, the lyrics huffed dongs. The song I've heard over the past several weeks surpass "The Terror State" by leaps and bounds.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

the new album is really good

Someone (March 21, 2006)

"Rank'n'File" had some pretty kiler lyrics.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

Guitar hero is an awesome game. i played it at Best Buy today and couldn't stop. by the way For Blood and Empire rules

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Are you kidding. 4-5 hours a day since my roomie got that game a week ago. Getting into the hard and expert modes are mind blowing and angerfying. Theyre coming out with 6 extra discs over the course of the year. 30 songs each? Probably different genres each. Punk Guitar Hero. Fuck ya.

skaboom (March 21, 2006)

They seem like good dudes. Something I noticed, though - #2 doesn't seem to be consciously aware of his band evolving. I don't know if he intentionally avoided the question about lyrical maturation (is that a word?) or if he just misunderstood it, but he didn't seem to imply that the band was purposefully becoming more sophisticated musicians, that it just naturally evolved. I think they needed to evolve like that, but I figured something like that would be deliberate.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

something like that can NEVER be deliberate.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Why not?

radioXwaves (March 22, 2006)

it seems that when bands make a deliberate move to "mature" they fail terribly. it's just something that happens

Someone (March 22, 2006)

i think part of it was that he didn't want to criticize the old lyrics, they were written by justin, so i don't think he wants to say they were simplistic compaired to what they're doing now. if they interviewed justin he'd probably be more open to saying they're progressing as a band

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

CURRENT TOUR SCHEDULE 4/5/06 Anti Flag/Unseen 4/24/06 Alkaline Trio/Against Me! 5/25/06 Angels and Airwaves

Skankur (March 21, 2006)

Omfglykewoahbbq SeLlOuTtTzzz..!!~!#@#@!11

Phantom_Maggot (March 21, 2006)

Really good interview Aubin. I applaude Anti-Flag for everything they have been able to accomplish. They are modest, motivated, and do everything for the right reason.

SlackMFr (March 21, 2006)

In the vein of genius comedian Lewis Black, when I hear these guys I'm lucky I have a knife nearby, so I can shove it in my ear! Stop! Stop! Stop! End all the shit about these no-talent, stage-named fairies! (Yes, I said fairies, it applies damn well here.)

Someone (March 21, 2006)

And a new contender for dumbest comment of the day appears....

SlackMFr (March 21, 2006)

Yes, your non effective retort takes the honor, congrats you brown eye.

drewcifer (March 21, 2006)

i laffed.

SlackMFr (March 22, 2006)

Well probably anyone with an I.Q. lower than my neighbor's dog that shits while it sleeps, would laugh at that.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

"when I hear these guys I'm lucky I have a knife nearby, so I can shove it in my ear!" Please do. The world doesn't need anymore homophobic, pretentious assholes. Trust me, we would be a lot better off. P.S. What bands do you listen to?

SlackMFr (March 22, 2006)

Wow, you can tell all those things from that little post. Who are you, phnoy fuck John Edwards? Nah, you probably just own his books. Poseur.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

wtf? you're an idiot you know?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

That promo pic up top turns me off even more.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I thought Anti-Flag was cool, but not anymore. RCA, Fuck this album. I'm not even going to listen to it.

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

and i'm sure they really give a fuck

radioXwaves (March 21, 2006)

I'm sure they'll be sorely hurt by your absense Are you just finding out about the RCA thing or something? It's been out there for a year now.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

fuck RCA up teh punxxx. you really think signing to RCA changed their sound? moron

Someone (April 5, 2006)

I think they changed their sound. Its watered down and weak. They pick up "movement" cliches and whine them. Its really quite boring now. Listen to Conflict for some serious poltics, or better yet, Crass. Anti-Flag, formerly anarchist punk fun band, now takes themselves too seriously, and advocates voting and congressmen. FUCK THAT. Y'all heard about the only person to go into parliament with honest intentions?

skaboom (March 21, 2006)

Being closed minded rocks, huh?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I was unable to continue reading this after seeing this picture: http://www.punknews.org/images/interviews/af1.jpg Seriously, how can any logical person take these fools seriously?

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

kurkewlbrah hows being prejudice going?

Someone (March 21, 2006)

what in the fuck are you talking about?

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

prej·u·dice ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prj-ds) n. 1 A - An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. ilikedefinitionzzzzz

Someone (March 21, 2006)

I was refering to this: "kurkewlbrah" and don't worry, not only have I listened to these tools on records before, but i've also seen them on the plea for peace/take action tour. They're about as clueless as they come. The fact that they look ridiculous only enhances the hilarity.

Coldwaffles (March 21, 2006)

My statement stands. You didn't read the article, nor have you heard their new album, I assume. (I stand corrected if you have.) Trust me, I thought they blew, but they really have seemingly matured, and their new records is actually pretty good. More so, if you like the Clash, the Misfits, blink, the Alkaline Trio, almost any modern street punk, and so much more, stfu. Seems like you are just a punkthanyou tool. Nice.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Yeah Seriously, how could anybody take them seriously?????????

Someone (March 21, 2006)

The Clash were nowhere near as "fashioncore" as Anti-Flag. Not to mention, they actually had some substance to their songs Fox News has more credibility than Anti-Flag

Someone (March 21, 2006)

That was fucking great.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Because logical people predominantly ignorant like some... And yes, that means you.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Just goes to show that no matter how much money you make in a lifetime, you can never buy a clue.

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

they don't want to talk talk talk talk talk about it

Someone (March 21, 2006)

That was my huge problem with Punkvoter as well.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Whoops, I didn't mean to reply to this. I am dumb.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

On behalf of Ohio, I would be honored to give these tools a beloved Cleveland Steamer across each one of their girly chests. It's long overdue..

Kid_Dynamite_ (March 21, 2006)

Ohio can go fuck themselves with the way they clevland-steam their votes away.. ZING

drewcifer (March 21, 2006)

this was supposed to be somewhere else. all other pat's can disregard it.

fallingupwards84 (March 21, 2006)

so you think you have authority b/c you're "26 and a half"? you were still in diapers when Bad Religion was pumping out music in the So. Cal scene. so i'm sure that makes you an expert.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

You are a fucking idiot.

drewcifer (March 22, 2006)

Hey man whats all that stuff zoooming over your head?

Someone (March 22, 2006)

hahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh shit, duck, here comes the point!

Evil_Dead (March 21, 2006)

Damn, by the time I finished the interview 100 more comments were posted. Whoa. Yeah, good album, good guys, good live band. Go vegan! JXS

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Freedom Haters.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

the terrorists hate our freedom

iconoclast (March 21, 2006)

holy shit, 149 conmments and not one mention of propagandhi (or perhaps im blind). thats very surprising considering every other comment on the "for blood and empire" review is people talking about propagandhi. anyways, propagandhi>anti-flag

iconoclast (March 21, 2006)

im looking forward to part 2 of this interview where they talk about propagandhi.

NoControl (March 21, 2006)

i think this is Anti-Flag's best yet. best songs- Hymn For The Dead, Depleted Uranium, Press Corpse, this is the end. great album, i dont care what anyone says.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Great album indeed... I also really like "I'd Tell You But..." and "Cities Burn"

Someone (March 21, 2006)

outstanding attention to detail

Someone (March 21, 2006)

muck like my extra 'y'

usversusthem (March 21, 2006)

Not to mention the 'k' instead of the 'h'.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

it's called irony, and i thought it was quite obvious

Someone (March 21, 2006)

It wasn't

Badmouth (March 21, 2006)

i couldn't finish reading it, it sounds like chris is on cocaine and he seems to avoid questions better than politicians

cash_money_hustla (March 21, 2006)

What is the best Propagandhi is start with?

Badmouth (March 21, 2006)

none ha ha ha ha ha

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Don't start. If you do, then you'll turn into prick. Just read half the comments on this site for proof.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

* turn into a prick

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 21, 2006)

how to clean everything.

iconoclast (March 21, 2006)

i like all 4 of their albums so much that any of them are great to start out with. maybe less talk, more rock tho, since thats my favorite album ever. yea, get less talk, more rock. go. now!

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Potemkin City Limits

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 21, 2006)

this interview is kinda hard to follow. anyone know what he means by this: We as a band made sure that in every statement we did with Punk Voter that we were not supporters of John Kerry and we do not think that John Kerry was the solution to any of the world's problems, so in that respect I think that, that the case in point on where I feel like of more of the bands with more cynical views of the political system and why its dangerous, would have gotten involved with the Punk Voter, instead of, I don't want to name names, cause I don't want to put any bands down but, instead of a band who is saying "fuck George Bush - Vote for John Kerry" y'know what I mean, I think that there is a lot of opportunities lost, I felt like us, the International Noise Conspiracy and Strike Anywhere were the only three bands who were actually saying "this political process, this quote-unquote democracy needs to be hijacked and that's what we want to use Punk Voter to do".

skaboom (March 21, 2006)

While they did work with punkvoter, they did not necessarily approve of the overarching theme of the campaign of "Elect John Kerry". They think that you have to work outside of the two major party system to achieve real change, not just vote for the lesser of two evils like some of the punkvoter bands were encouraging. I don't know what specific bands he is referencing, but I think Fat Mike was pretty chummy with Kerry. The point A-F is trying to get across is that there is more to political activism than merely voting democrat.

FuckYouOiOiOi (March 22, 2006)

and what was he saying about green day and yellowcard?

givemeamuseumandillfillit (March 22, 2006)

Basically they're smacktalking the newer poppunk bands for not knowing what the hell they talking about and just wanting to say "fuck george bush", and how they're much better because they want to TEAR THE GOVERMENT DOWN YEAAAAH PUNXOR

Coldwaffles (March 22, 2006)

You missed the point too. Not of that section, of that interview.

WingsOutside (March 21, 2006)

yes u should not fackin privative u fakin shit u fackin canada. FACK THE FREE MARKET GOVERNMENT CONTROL REPRESENT HOLLLLLLLLLA. In all seriousness, plz privatize everything and reduce restrictions on where to get oil, dril the fuckin shit out of everywhere, seriously. we need fucking oil. once we get oil and fix our economy we can build solar panels. Or we can just keep doing this so everyone is too poor to buy solar panels and teh fackin Chinese can ass rape us.

Someone (March 21, 2006)

That was harder to understand than the interview.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Haha, you're 12 aren't you. Who taught you that nonsense? Once we get oil and fix our economy we can build solar panels? What the hell? We've had oil for how long now? Our economy is far from being fixed, and privatizing oil would do what? Oh wicked, Dan's Oil Co. pumped out 4 drums of oil today. Awesome! I'll take a gallon for $40.00 please. Who are you appealing to anyway? Please privatize everything? He's right Johnson! Press the Privatize button!

Someone (March 21, 2006)

Personally, I wear baggy pants, since, I have husky thighs, but that is just me

Someone (March 21, 2006)

the cd booklet looks like it was ripped of from bad religion, at least a new America

sceneupdates (March 21, 2006)

holy shit, you just broke the record for the longest interview ever. it was good though

Someone (March 21, 2006)

whats the deal with propagandhi and this band, is there "beef"? for real though

iconoclast (March 21, 2006)

no.

fistchode (March 22, 2006)

from a g7 podcast derek: "so chris, anti-flag just signed to a major.. thoughts?" chris: "why would I give a shit? what the fuck's your point?"

opened_ground (March 21, 2006)

Lets talk about how awesome Whatever it Takes used to be!! Such a great band.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

"Yeah. It would be nice to see all this resolved by letting the architects fight it out themselves." Isn't that called world war? ...maybe they were being sarcastic - indeed, great interview.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

omg, chris head speaks!?

kingofpain (March 22, 2006)

I'll believe it when I see it in person.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

wasn't this number 2, i don't think it was chris head. i did see chris head speak once, they messed up the mic at a show in milwaukee, and chris head had the lead one, so you could hear him loudly sing back up vocals.

AlmostPunkEnough (March 22, 2006)

good, if incredibly long, interview. i like them more now than i did before. and i still think the new cd is pretty damn solid.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

wow, that's a long interview. if there's another part, how long did you interview them? still really good, can't wait to buy the album tommorrow (yeah i know i'm a day behind)

Someone (March 22, 2006)

documentary on the topic:MOSANTO KILLS FARMERS http://www.peaholmquist.com/bullshit/about.htm check it out about the Indian activist Vandana Shiva

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Does anyone else feel like the spokesman for a band that extols the extreme importance of political activism should be slightly more informed about the organizations that his band endorses? The guy just seems like 95% of the time he's being vague and incoherent. I think one huge flaw of this band is their inability to progress past accusations. Yes, our current government, it's policies and the economic systems that it supports are problematic, that's understood, you can stop calling attention to that now. I feel like a band that is so overtly political and has the ears of such a large audience has a certain responsibility to do more than simply create "foot tappin" anthems that naiive 14 year old "punks" can write on their binders. That doesn't do anything. Neither does blindly supporting a grass-roots internet campaign that is absolutely pointless. If you sincerely want to make changes try to not only educate, but then provide ways and suggestions for your devoted listeners to get involved. If writing scathing articles for punkvoter and putting your name behind an internet petition to remove a president who's in the final stretch of his term is the farthest you're willing to go then I think you need to step back and take a serious look at how devoted to your supposed causes you actually are.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

that is the first rational comment on this site ever!!! KUDOS!

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Blahblahblah...."fuck George Bush, he's a fascist!"...Blahblahblah.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

droooooooooooppped

Someone (March 22, 2006)

dont u have to make good music to be considered a sell out? I mean U have to SELL first to be a sell out

fistchode (March 22, 2006)

right.. because selling records is directly related to making good music.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Broken Star Trio Here: I have an honest question.Whats wrong with this band spreading a political message to our generation? There are so many problems goin on in the world. So what if the music is politically simplistic. I enjoy the fact that this is a gateway band, i mean come on. This band goes out and puts out a message that this regime is completely insane. I am political science major at Roosevelt college in Chicage and brought this cd to my teacher. He ended up looking at the lyrics and giving me his hour long speech on how this simplistic message will get our generation involved with politics. In our age we would almost rather ignore the terrible stuff going on in the world, i know i was practically blind before my eyes were opened. Our generation has the lowest amount of voter bracket. People these days are more concerned about stupid high school bullshit, such as whose dating who instead of who is killing who in what foriegn country. We need to change the way we look at every thing and start this movement now. Anti-Flag is doing what they think is right. And bands like Leftover Crack are doing they're part by shocking us in to believing what we should. I believe that we need to do soemthing now. Take this example, You would help an old woman across the street, without even thinking about it, You would give a starving person a sandwich, If someone was about to get killed u would attempt to save them. Think of these examples and i will check on what you guys think?

Someone (March 22, 2006)

Look a few posts up and you'll see that this question was answered in full before you asked it. Now I'll try to address some of your other points. First of all, only a small small fraction of "our generation" listens to Anti-Flag. Their fanbase is, for the most part, rooted in young kids just getting in to what they think is punk rock. They don't have the reach that you seem to think they do. Supposing, even for a second, that they did, do you sincerely think that a nation of young voters would be spurred into true political awareness (not just wearing Not My President shirts) by infantile "fuck the man" lyrics? The reason that the majority of this country is so apathetic to the world around it is that in the United States, we are nestled comfortably in a warm cucoon of ignorance and minimal contact with the outside world. Our news sources report on so little of what is actually going on in the world it's no wonder that nobody knows or cares. As admirable as certain grassroots causes are in their attempts to educate people, they generally preach to the choir, while the majority of the populace would rather focus on what they see in front of them, "stupid high school bullshit." The way that you talk about needing to do something serves as a perfect example of when I said that Anti-Flag needs to progress past empty words. You talk about needing to change the way we look and "start this movement now." What movement? How are we going to change the way we look? You basically just echoed what Anti-Flag always says. We need to remove this evil government. The revolution needs to start. Okay, awesome, if your statements are based on informed opinions and you have a PLAN and strategies to back your big words, then hell yes, kick ass. Lead on Anti-Flag, lets march on Washington and impose legitimate hunger strikes. Let's protest outside of FOX offices, let's do SOMETHING. If not, then you're just full of shit. Take an honest look at what this band does, what it claims to want, and how, if at all, it has ever gone about attempting to achieve the ends that it preaches year after year. Is Anti-Flag REALLY the type of figure that's going to spur political activism in such an afluent and comfortably apathetic nation? I think that if you're honest with yourself, you'll realize that a band wearing makeup that continues to scream "Fuck George Bush, Fuck the Police" that refuses to actually make good on any of their claims to want change is not the type of leader or helper that any political movement needs. Look at history man, never once has any political power EVER been stopped by inaction.

Someone (March 22, 2006)

I'm speechless. such a stupid faggot band. dumbed down stupid lyrics that will be sure to brainwash highschool kids everywhere

Someone (March 22, 2006)

you guys used to be against brainwashing kids into believe what other people. now your the ones brainwashing everyone. your turning into another green day and thats not a good thing

Someone (March 23, 2006)

is it just me or does #2 not know how to talk straight?

Someone (March 24, 2006)

What a bunch of total tooools, hahahaah. Political music, yer, right

Someone (April 3, 2006)

Selling out - deliberately changing your musical style just to sell more records and make money. Not selling out - joining a major label to get your shit heard by more people. The Sex Pistols signed to EMI and then Virgin - I guess they're not punk now either?

Someone (April 6, 2006)

#2 is sorta the shy one in the group. but yeah he needs to work on his talking to other life forms skill..

T-Train (October 5, 2006)

these guys are awsome!!!! they kick ass live!!

tomb (November 12, 2007)

so this guy is an anarchist who warns the interviewer that canadian people are gonna lose their big government social programs? this is why im not a punk anymore. ramones rule.