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Tours: Useless ID: China and Japan

Contributed by uselessishay. Posted by justin on Saturday, August 23, 2008 at 9:00 AM (EDT)

Useless ID are headed out on their first tour of China and Japan. In Japan they'll be joined by Nerf Herder and Secondshot and in China they'll be playing with SKO. The dates are below.

Suburban Home recently posted the track "Blood Pressure" from their upcoming LP Lost Broken Bones. You can also stream the track at their MySpace page.

Japan with Nerf Herder and Secondshot
19, September	Drop, Osaka
20, September	Zion, Nagoya
2223, September	Loft, Shinjuku
China with SKO
26, September	13 club, Tianjin
28, September	Yo Yin Yang, Shanghai
29, September	Star Air Livehouse, Nanchang
30, September	Vox, Wuhan
1, October	MaoBeijing

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mickeydalez (August 23, 2008)

what about israel?

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T-Rock (August 23, 2008)

Nothing says punx like playing on land stolen by military force and American weaponry.

Fuck Israel.

T-Rock (August 23, 2008)

Oh, and fuck this band too.

jacknife737 (August 23, 2008)

Why, they drown your puppy or something?

jacknife737 (August 23, 2008)

What about bands that play the US, due to the basic genocide of the Natives? Or Italy for what the Romans did to Europe for centuries, or the UK for what they did to the Scottish/ Irish, or France for what they did when they the Normans occupied England, or Russia for what they did to Eastern Europe, or Australia for their treatment of their Aborigines. Or Belgium for what they did to the Congo, or Canada for their treatment of the Métis? By your logic, bands shouldn’t play any country, ever.

Knifetrader (August 23, 2008)

"Nothing says punx like playing on land stolen by military force and American weaponry.

Fuck Israel."

So anti-semitism is punx nowadays?

T-Rock (August 23, 2008)

You must be kidding me. This is the equivalent of saying that I can't cut down Andrew Jackson for killing Indians, because that would make me anti-white. Get your mouth out of your ass and go read a book. Wasn't there a time when punk fans were into politics and world events?

P.S. I AM a Semite, you moron.

Knifetrader (August 23, 2008)

Wowowo, easy there.

Of course my posting was brutally undeliberate and exaggerated, but so was yours. You can't expect to post "Fuck Israel" on a site like this and not get a negative response.

While Israel was founded by force and the land was indeed stolen from the Palastinians, that happened 60 years ago and only few people that were actively involved in that process are still alive today. The people that live today in Israel are not responsible for what their fathers and grandfathers did. I give you that a part of them is responsible for the continued Jewish settlement on the West bank, directly through settling or indirectly through supporting the respective political parties. But a big part of the people down there for sure just wanna live their lives in peace and are sick and tired of the conflict between Israel and the Arabs. (I'm pretty sure

show rest of commentWowowo, easy there.

Of course my posting was brutally undeliberate and exaggerated, but so was yours. You can't expect to post "Fuck Israel" on a site like this and not get a negative response.

While Israel was founded by force and the land was indeed stolen from the Palastinians, that happened 60 years ago and only few people that were actively involved in that process are still alive today. The people that live today in Israel are not responsible for what their fathers and grandfathers did. I give you that a part of them is responsible for the continued Jewish settlement on the West bank, directly through settling or indirectly through supporting the respective political parties. But a big part of the people down there for sure just wanna live their lives in peace and are sick and tired of the conflict between Israel and the Arabs. (I'm pretty sure Useless ID and the majority of the Israelian punkrock community are part of the sick and tired people)

The statement "Fuck Israel" implies the wish for the removal of Israel from the map and puts you therefore dangerously close to the likes of Achmadineshad*. Israel has a population of 7 million people, of which a great part is neither responsible for the forcefull foundation of the country or the occupation on the West-bank.
While Israel was founded by military force and millions of people suffered from that, a removal of Israel would just cause huge amounts of suffering once again, as the only way to make 7 million people leave the land where they were born and everything they have behind, is the limitless use of force.
The term for that, however, is ethnic cleansing and ethnic cleansing usually goes hand in hand with genocide. The genocide of Jewish people however is called Holocaust, and if anything in this world was ever anti-semitic it's the Holocaust.
Therefore "Fuck Isreal" is - if it implies the removal of Isreal from the map - at it's core an antisemtic statement.

The way and place Israel was founded was extremely unfortunate, as was a lot of the Israelian policy in the decades after the fondation, but realistically there's no peaceful way to make the country dissapear. Therefore the only possible way for the Israelis and the Palastinians is a co-existance.

*I know that his infamous Israel-off-the-map-statement was terribly distorted in translation and was originally much less radical.

T-Rock (August 23, 2008)

"You can't expect to post "Fuck Israel" on a site like this and not get a negative response. "

Of course you can. This site should be the most open to it. Punk was founded on the ideals of anarchy. While I am not an anarchist, saying "Fuck (Insert country)" is very much in line with the punk ideal. Also, the statement above would not imply mass genocide of the people on that land. Its a negative statement against the country, it's policies, and what it stands for.

That said, I would also not hesitate to say "Fuck (many) Israelis." These are the people responsible for the settlements within Palestinian land, and the numbers of those settlements keeps increasing. They are the same people responsible for Gaza being one of he most poverty-stricken regions on the globe. Anybody living in that land and not taking action against brutality and injustice is compl

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T-Rock (August 23, 2008)

Oh, and one last thing: It is not anti-Semitic to cut down Israel or any of its policies. It is anti-Semitic to hate people simply because they are of Jewish descent. I don't care about their ethnicity or religion whatsoever. If they were Chinese, I would say the same.

hotcheetos (August 23, 2008)

Someday, I'm off to Japan. To meet Scarlett Johansson in her panties.

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baldsteve (August 23, 2008)

Dude, just come to denver, both the lady and her panties are here.

24HourPriapism (August 23, 2008)

so it's Obama/Biden in 08. bring it.

binaural111 (August 23, 2008)

Fuck. Of all places, they have to miss my country.

SLFSubhuman (August 23, 2008)

Did September suddenly get longer???
2223, September..Never seen that date before..

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paulrock (August 25, 2008)

according to useless id's myspace, it's sep 22 and sep 23.they will play in the same venue in 2 dates.

jacknife737 (August 23, 2008)

It's pretty cool that a lot more Western bands are playing China. There was a pretty interesting documentary on PBS a little while ago about the Chinese rock scene during the 90s. Stuff like that is a lot more popular in China then people realize.

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