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Rise Against names 12 world changing records from Dead Kennedys, Clash, Bad Religion, Jawbreaker

Contributed by Centrics_Design. Posted by aubin on Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:00 PM (EDT)

Rise Against recently put together a list of the "12 Records That Changed the World" for IGN. The list includes albums from Dead Kennedys, Clash, Bad Religion, Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Minor Threat, The Who, Black Sabbath, The Ramones and Miles Davis along with commentary for each.

You can check out the feature here.

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sXenester (October 9, 2008)

makeoutwithashotgunnews.org

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Edia_Ave (October 9, 2008)

huh? i didn't see nirvana on that list

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Its because they are sickeningly overrated.

Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

Agreed.

binaural111 (October 9, 2008)

was listening to the new album i just got in the mail yesterday. so far i like track 4 and 5

TheMike (October 9, 2008)

Do these guys have OCD or something?

Props for adding Tommy, though.

TrueBeliever (October 9, 2008)

I really hate Zepplin.

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Preston (October 9, 2008)

With you. That's one band I don't think I'll ever like. I catch shit for it all the time.

veganboyjosh (October 9, 2008)

12 dollar concerts

JayTee (October 9, 2008)

were all the rage!!

kneel (October 9, 2008)

somethin somethin somethin JIMMY PAGE

havent listened to that shit in forever.

HumanUnkind (October 9, 2008)

"Stairway to Heaven" makes me see red

it's "they bought cocaine for jimmy paige" by the by.

kneel (October 9, 2008)

ranks up there with the beatles

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Beatles/Nirvana are the most overrated and boring bands I've heard.

TrueBeliever (October 9, 2008)

So wrong about the Beatles, even if it is your opinion, it's still wrong.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Funny you say that, everything I say becomes fact. That's just how it is.

UNTJosh (October 9, 2008)

Luckily facts in this case don't matter.

The Beatles did put out a ton, over half of which does suck, but the half that doesn't is strong.

We can all agree that Nirvana does blow though, and their introduction to the playlist on Sirius 29 right before its downfall isn't a coincidence.

HOISTDATRAG (October 9, 2008)

I thought the same thing until I listened to Abbey Road/the White Album. So incredibly good/weird.

yourmomdotcom (October 9, 2008)

what are you, 12? it's Zeppelin dick!

TrueBeliever (October 9, 2008)

Yes, I'm 12 because I forgot to insert a "e" into an uncommon word for a band that I just stated that I could care less for. And your username is oh-so common.

jacknife737 (October 9, 2008)

Agreed

CrotchRot (October 9, 2008)

wait a second. i didn't see gaslight, d4, against me!, lawrence arms, or hot water music.

let's try to be C I V I L about this

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Preston (October 9, 2008)

O, CrotchRot, dost your quips tickle my ears, or hast me a bumble bee a-fluttering closely?

DrGunn (October 9, 2008)

look, i really really love jawbreaker. but i really doubt that they "changed the world" or that that record had anything near the effect of kind of blue and the first black sabbath album.

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mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

I think the "world changing" is some sort of hyperbole, cause the website says "rise against names THEIR influential favorites".

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Sabbath and Zeppelin didn't mean shit to me or my world.

Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

Too much win.

Although I like Zeppelin.

Nameless (October 9, 2008)

This, FTW.

Cuffer (October 9, 2008)

Niiiiice. Agreed fully.

Cannsaw (October 9, 2008)

Of course punks don't like Zeppelin

the_other_scott (October 9, 2008)

aren't you a big screeching weasel fan? no zeppelin means no "led zeppelin sucks"

there you go...

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Not their best song, and if I had to have one song knocked off of boogada in exchange for 'the zep' never existing... I say we all win.

DrGunn (October 9, 2008)

your world sucks.

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Glad you aren't a part of it. You'd be a pretty big downer.

JawbreakerSucks (October 9, 2008)

You've gotta be kidding me.

LinoleumMagazine (October 9, 2008)

Ok, so who'd they forget? I'd say Bad Brains and Nirvana.

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mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Black Flag.

LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Given how many times they cover their songs (along with portraying them in a movie) I was a bit surprised Nervous Breakdown wasn't there.

wolfshirt (October 9, 2008)

Bratmobile and Funeral Oration

LinoleumMagazine (October 9, 2008)

Funeral Oration... LOL!

ghpunkguy (October 9, 2008)

Fuck yeah! Funeral Oration were great. I remember getting a flexi in an old flipside about 15 years ago, have the rest of their stuff on vinyl too. Great band.

Scarysmurf (October 9, 2008)

Gaslight Anthem, duh.

blue_drink (October 9, 2008)

The Assfight Gotham!

benwhite (October 9, 2008)

This is a pretty good list.

GlamBalam (October 9, 2008)

Why would I care what they think?
I listen to what I like (as bad as it could be considered).
Some people seem to like some bands just because they're considered classics and don't have the courage to listen or admit that they listen to other music cause it wouldn't fit in their fake "punk" image.

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mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

I can't listen to Jawbreaker, and as much as I like some Ramones songs, I can't think of the last time I ever sat down and turned them on.

chickswithdicks (October 9, 2008)

don't give up on jawbreaker, perhaps in time you will come around.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

I enjoy their songs here and there but they don't really stand out. But I hated Hot Water Music at first, it'll probably hit me one day.

thirtyseconds (October 9, 2008)

Dead on there son

Banger (October 9, 2008)

The title of the article (Rise Against's "The 12 Albums that Changed the World") makes it sound a lot more self-important than it really is, which is just 12 albums Rise Against really likes.

I hate it when they make you click a bunch of times just to get through the list, especially when in the end the content provided never makes even that minimal amount of effort worth it.

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FelixT (October 9, 2008)

Yeah but it's IGN and they get money from their publicity. So they want it displayed as many times as possible.

Banger (October 9, 2008)

Yeah, I understand it's all about ad revenue.

blue_drink (October 9, 2008)

Oh boy. Another pretentious list from these guys.

the_problem_with_fire (October 9, 2008)

they forgot less talk, more rock

lostandclowned (October 9, 2008)

i hate the sound on Plastic Surgery Disasters.

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LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Really? I think that it is at least my second favorite DK record. I end up listening to it more than Fresh Fruit, even.

PaC (October 9, 2008)

This is not Bill and Ted. Music is good, but never changed the world much. I would understand "change their lives" though.

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baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Maybe they are from the future, I've never seen their telephone booth.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

They forgot the Descendents...

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sammy_sam_saminson (October 9, 2008)

i'm just gonna say it...i don't enjoy the descendents...like at all.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

...

...

Are you...

sammy_sam_saminson (October 9, 2008)

hey, guy who "can't remember" the last time he sat down to listen to the ramones...settle down =)

i know it's a rather unpopular opinion...but the descendants just don't do it for me...

most people have the dirty little secret bands they love but wouldn't tell...my dirty little secrets are the bands everyone's popping boners over, yet just don't impress me that much.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Alright! Fair enough.

But... come, on... really?

sammy_sam_saminson (October 9, 2008)

haha you think THAT'S crazy...you oughta hear what i think about the clash....

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Well, I might agree with you there. London Calling is great and I respect the massive amounts of influence they incorporated into some of their songs, but I can't listen to most of their discography without getting bored.

Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

Don't get mikexheretic started on the Clash.

You know, if you don't like the Clash...please don't shit on them. I don't ask for much, but it'd break my heart. Plus, I assume we have a similar love for the Ramones.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Are you being Matt Skiba for halloween?

Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

I try to go with something dead-ish

Like Dr. D's career.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

woooooooooooooo

sammy_sam_saminson (October 9, 2008)

haha i wouldn't shit on them...i've got a ton of respect for them and recognize their significance....it's just that it sounds like complete and utter garbage to me and i never EVER want to have to listen to them. Everytime i hear joe strummers voice it fills me with such a rage.

and yeah...i really started commenting here because of mike's comment about not listening to the ramones...i LITERALLY listen to the ramones every day, cannot get enough

bluexmaslights (October 17, 2008)

so you pop boners for the ramones everyday but you cant even pop a little one for the descendents...not even just a little one?

PoliticsOfStarving (October 10, 2008)

Whatever happened to having 'RIP Joe Strummer' at the top of the org. It did used to be there right? Or did I imagine it?

kneel (October 9, 2008)

i think the clash, while a great band, are one of the most overrated ever.

Threewords (October 9, 2008)

its too b ad they cant make a decent record to save their lives. never heard something more contrived in all my life.

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baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

One of my friends described them as the rantings of a student in a junior poli-sci class.

That's about right. They are fun, they didn't add their name to that list or anything. Plus there is way way way more contrived shit. Remember Anti-Flag is still cranking shit out.

badbrain (October 9, 2008)

Their first two records were decent I'd say

poki516 (October 9, 2008)

I have all of those, and the only ones that stick out are Zeppelin, Kind of Blue, and No Control. What about Miles Davis' Bitches Brew which is completely different music. It takes jazz and makes it fusion. Why not Bad Religion's Recipe for Hate?

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baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Recipe for Hate is one of the worst records. Certainly from them. kerosene keeps me warm... Blech, that shit got thrown out the window.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

More importantly, why the fuck does Rise Against care about jazz.

lostandclowned (October 9, 2008)

you obviously haven't heard the album. check it out.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

Hahaha, Miles Davis is frequently listened to by me, I play a lot of jazz in my spare time. I was just kidding about how boring Rise Against is for being influenced by such an eclectic genre.

ryanky (October 9, 2008)

I totally agree about Bitches Brew. It's definitely an underappreciated record

LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Personally if I was going to put a jazz album, I would put "A Love Supreme".

DrewXFishy (October 9, 2008)

how do u post your top albums on your punknews profile

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Scarysmurf (October 9, 2008)

You rate each album and then they magically appear in your profile.

It's MaAAaaaggGiccc!

El_Mugroso (October 9, 2008)

riseagainstnews.org?

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (October 9, 2008)

Backed!!

letthebeatdrop (October 9, 2008)

i hate to spam, i won't do this again.... okay aubin? thanks.

anyone who is interested in contributing to an east coast based fanzine/label with artwork, writings, poetry, album reviews, show reviews, whatever... please get at me at - wreckyourself_fanzine@yahoo.com

thanks so much guys!

24HourPriapism (October 9, 2008)

no paper walls?

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lostandclowned (October 9, 2008)

hahaha.

SLFSubhuman (October 9, 2008)

Go Ian. Only musician in 2 bands on the list.

thirtyseconds (October 9, 2008)

I take it they are being sarcastic by omitting Guttermouth's "Gusto"

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kevgren (October 9, 2008)

Featuring the classic feminist anthem, "Pee in the Shower"

Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

Big up's for tossing out love for Miles Davis...and the Cool.

owwwww (October 9, 2008)

Ah, the classic Miles Davis insertion.

Let's be honest, no one really likes Miles Davis, they just like to say they do.

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Dudley_Shale (October 9, 2008)

Brian Fallon disagrees.

badbrain (October 9, 2008)

Yeah and that guy from taking back sunday

theGooch (October 9, 2008)

and the ergs too

TrueBeliever (October 9, 2008)

I read a Brian Fallon interview where they asked him what his favorite jazz record was and his reponse was that he really doesn't like jazz music and all. And then in his defense to the obvious question "what about you writing a song about Miles Davas", he instantly stated that he considers Miles Davis to be soul music. As much as I love Gaslight and Fallon, that's kind bs to me.

mikexdude (October 9, 2008)

His energy, passion and sense of melody is unmatched. You should really watch what you say.

LinoleumMagazine (October 9, 2008)

Don't tell me what I like. Perhaps you have very limited musical taste and can't grasp good jazz.

Splendidtune (October 9, 2008)

If you want jazz listen to Duke.

owwwww (October 9, 2008)

Good jazz....LOL.

Keep on pretending.

the_other_scott (October 9, 2008)

i like coltrane more. but i like miles davis, and so do a lot of other people.

DrewXFishy (October 9, 2008)

ya everyone says they dig him

but miles fucking rules

but why the fuck cant they ever appreciate other badass jazz shit like maynard ferguson or wynton marsalis

eran_zombis (October 9, 2008)

"They delivered what is considered their breakthrough album, Siren Song Of The Counter Culture in 2004 (it went gold, selling in excess of 500,000 copies)."

I dunno, I always thought RPM was the breakthrough because it got them signed on the major in the first place.

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HumanUnkind (October 9, 2008)

It doesn't count as breakthrough unless it sells over 500,000 copies obviously!

Tobin_Ownlife (October 9, 2008)

Don't understand how this is newsworthy. It's no different than one of us telling people what albums we like a lot. I guess it will maybe open the eyes of the kids who just know swing life away to some good music.

JawbreakerSucks (October 9, 2008)

Words cannot express how much fuck Jawbreaker.

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badbrain (October 9, 2008)

I could not agree more

- baldsteve

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

Hey! I don't remember saying that.

HumanUnkind (October 9, 2008)

The dude's blatantly a politican. You probably did say that, just not about jawbreaker.

SmellTheGlove (October 9, 2008)

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/36/Trollingback inthedays.jpg

HeyBarmold (October 9, 2008)

So are Rise Against gonna start a zine or what?

consider_the_ravens (October 9, 2008)

i saw these guys numerous times and most recently with alkaline trio and i have to say it was one of the most boring shows iv ever gone to.....

JayTee (October 9, 2008)

Jawbreaker didn't change the world.

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JawbreakerSucks (October 9, 2008)

I grant you that Unfun was an OK, if pedestrian album.

Then the singer's voice went downhill. And on 24 Hour Revenge Therapy, half the time he sounds like he's forcing an accent. Ugh. And Dear You was just an atrocity.

Cannsaw (October 9, 2008)

I would've had you down as a Jawbreaker fan, for sure.

baldsteve (October 9, 2008)

No band did. Its assholes with guitars. But they affected my life more than most.

Cannsaw (October 9, 2008)

LMAO. Nearly all of these, they got a good band but the wrong album, who the fuck picks Plastic Surgery Disasters over Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables? Someone who just made a mediocre CD, that's who.

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legendarydoughnut (October 9, 2008)

serious, fresh fruit is THE Dead Kennedy's album, i kept clicking expecting it to be there.

BarleyPat (October 9, 2008)

I'd actually say Frankenchrist is the best.

Can we all agree that Bedtime for Democracy, despite it's great name, is the worst?

SmellTheGlove (October 9, 2008)

I actually prefer PSD. Also, "13 Songs" is my favorite Fugazi record. I think most of the bands they listed have put out more than one great record so I can't exactly fault them for selecting any of them.

acris (October 9, 2008)

same here for both of those albums

Seanith (October 9, 2008)

They seemed to have got the wrong Bad Religion album too lol. Most would have mentioned "Suffer" before "No Control".

BarleyPat (October 9, 2008)

I'd pick No Control, but it's REALLY close between those two.

fallingupwards84 (October 9, 2008)

how is this news?

hey punknews staff, i heard Tim sneezed the other day, lets report it

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wonton (October 9, 2008)

I hear hes playing SHOWS now!

OMG selloutz

AndyPonch (October 9, 2008)

I'm just so tired of punk bands pretending to be influenced by other music rather than punk. What normal teenage kid into punk rock seriously listens to the Who, Sabbath and Miles Davis. I wish people would stop pretending they have such a diverse selection of music that influenced their punk songwriting.

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DrewXFishy (October 9, 2008)

agreed

LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Well, given that Tim is like... 30 now. He's had time to listen to other music.
Also, lots of 80's hardcore bands (i.e Bad Brains, Black Flag) idolized Black Sabbath.

VinylCharlotte (October 9, 2008)

there is not one woman on this entire list :[

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SmellTheGlove (October 9, 2008)

Boo Hoo. Cry me a vagina.

VinylCharlotte (October 10, 2008)

I'm crushed

Seanith (October 9, 2008)

Who gives a phuk about the albums Rise Against thinks changed the world?

american_666_jesus (October 9, 2008)

Clearly this should have been titled: "12 Albums That Changed Their World." Most of the commentary was about either the album's influence on them or the music scene it came from. The whole Earth is a big place and I seriously doubt any of these albums had any great influence on world events since their publication. Although, I think I remember reading an article connecting America's involvement in Vietnam to the release of Led Zeppelin. Unless, they are saying that Rise Against is the world, which would be inexcusably arrogant.

TarpisWoods (October 9, 2008)

Am i the only person who thinks Jawbreaker Sucks?

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LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

No, there's a guy with his internet name devoted to that very opinion.

bluexmaslights (October 9, 2008)

BLAKE!!!!

Allon (October 9, 2008)

also known as the "duhhh!" list of necessary albums

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LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Pretty much.

MattRamone (October 9, 2008)

Tommy sucks

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LookBackAndLaugh (October 10, 2008)

Disagreed. It, along with London Calling and All Things Must Pass, are the only double/triple albums I can listen to and not get incredibly bored.

nickbaldauf (October 10, 2008)

What about Chuck Berry? Operation Ivy's Energy, which percipitated the ska sound? Social Distortion's Prison Bound, which fused the raw emotion of 2nd generation punk with the melodic meloncholy of blues (lyricly and musicaly)?

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