Indeed.

http://engrishfunny.com/2008/11/12/engrish-strange-thing-into -the-sink/#comments

Yeah, according to Rock for Sustainable Capitalism, we should be getting this for free.

I like you a hell of a lot more than Heisel.

Ya I know, anyone who has any sort of problem with capitalism should totally give everything they have owned/or will ever make away for free because that totally makes alot of sense and if they don't, internetl punx will call you a hypocrite.

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the_other_scott (November 13, 2008)

i'm so far from punx its crazy.

selling against capitalism makes about as much sense as bombing for peace or fucking for virginity, as they say.

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BarleyPat (November 13, 2008)

I see your point, but.................

While I don't seriously think they should give their albums away for free, if you are going to get all preachy about certain elements of the music industry, you probably shouldn't have your CD's for sale at Best Buy for $15.99. I love Prop, I'm just "calling them on their shit" as they would call me on mine.

And don't give me any of that shit about "But they aren't responsible for their distribution". If they really cared, they could find a way around selling at outlets like Best Buy that are part of the problem.

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Tudor (November 13, 2008)

Distrbution of albums has not much to do with Propagandhi and everything to do with Fatwreck cords. If you want to point the hypocrite finger, I would be pointing it at fat mike.

and you've seen Propagandhi at Best Buy? you must have one rad best buy where you live. They're all stocked up on Nickleback and old sublime best of albums where I'm at.

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JHrecords (November 13, 2008)

Todays Empires, Tommorows Ashes was everywhere, Best Buy, Circuit City, you name it.


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the_other_scott (November 13, 2008)

fat's distro goes through Red Music, which is owned by Sony.

http://www.redmusic.com/labels.htm

Fat does one-record deals, so Propagandhi could put their record out however they wanted to.

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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

and in Canada they do, threw G7.

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the_other_scott (November 14, 2008)

through, not threw. and in the rest of the world they don't.

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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

I know it's through. My browser has a horrible built in spell checker that changes words to other words, even if I forget a single letter.

I wish these comments had edit buttons.

Contrary to common douchebag belief, exchanging currency for goods or services is not capitalism, nor is it in any way antithetical to most anti-capitalist ideologies.

Regardless, you do what you can. Even John Zerzan uses a computer; even Noam Chomsky has money in oil companies.

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CCSummers (November 13, 2008)

I never would have thought someone on this site would even know who John Zerzan was.

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Tudor (November 13, 2008)

Touche.

Well said.

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the_other_scott (November 13, 2008)

definition:

": an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"

Propaghandi's records are put out by Fat records, through Red Music, which is owned by Sony. Every aspect of the packaging and distribution of their records falls under this definition.



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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

What point are you trying to prove exactly?

Are you suggesting that ANY punk band that sings about politics should give their albums out for free? Are you suggesting because Fat Records puts their stuff threw red music that every band from NOFX to the Lawrence arms are hypocrites for having a potentially anti-captalist stace?

I see you have Bad Religion on your favorites list...how...hypocritical of you.

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the_other_scott (November 14, 2008)

no. i'm suggesting that any band that has a specifically anti-capitalist or even more specifically anti-corporate message in their song should be careful not to support those industries.

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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

So I'll be assume you'll be promptly removing Bad Religon from your favorites list than?

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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

Damn. Why don't these things have edit buttons?

assuming*

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dual-a-corn (November 14, 2008)

Lawrence Arms has an anti-capitalist stance?

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Tudor (November 14, 2008)

Yes. Ever heard slipstick? or read any interviews with Brendan?

They take a more subjective political approach.

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dual-a-corn (November 14, 2008)

Oh right. I totally forget about Slapstick, as well as the Broadways sometimes. I guess it makes sense...

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Misanthropee (November 14, 2008)

That has nothing to do with the initial comment that selling thingsasn't automatically capitalistic; and it has even less to do with the subsequent observation that everyone has to make compromises...

where does everyone get his idea that anything anti-capitalist is automatically anti-profit?

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

Skcart bud edulcni ti lliw?

maybe on a planet where "best band ever" means, "kick ass, but far from warranting 'best-band' status"

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iconoclast (November 13, 2008)

whatevs.

totally agree. i met them twice and all were totally solid, down to earth guys.

C'mon, seriously? So the dude in Weakerthans played in Propagandhi a decade ago, it's not even comparable.
It's not like, "Wild Wild West" > "Willenium"
-Dante

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baldsteve (November 13, 2008)

Seriously.

It's the only Propagandhi I like.

You can remove them if you like, I still think I-Spy > Propagandhi



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Dante3000 (rich) (November 13, 2008)

"Parents Just Don't Understand" > "Summertime"?
-Dante

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baldsteve (November 13, 2008)

I see where you are going, I don't mention that dude or his creations. I hate him. The kind of hate reserved for Oprah. I think they are both useless. Nothing good, ever.

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LinoleumMagazine (November 13, 2008)

I'm glad I'm not the only person that can't stand Oprah. When will that bitch stop putting her fat face on the cover of her magazine?

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Dante3000 (rich) (November 13, 2008)

Rachel Ray > Dr. Phil?
-Dante

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baldsteve (November 13, 2008)

Always bet on Vagina

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Rachel Ray?

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MN_punkmaster-skaman (November 13, 2008)

I really like Propagandhi now compared to when they sounded like every Fat Wreck Band in 1996. I'm not saying I hate it (How To Clean Everything still classic), it's just I like their music they're making now.

But I agree on the Weakerthans > Propagandhi if I had to, but they're too different to compare

Prop > Weakerthans > I Spy

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baldsteve (November 13, 2008)

You're doing it wrong.

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BarleyPat (November 13, 2008)

I"m going to slap you so hard. Don't make me slap the hell out of you.

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baldsteve (November 13, 2008)

Come over here. I'll unlock the front door for you, I haven't had a good office fist-fight in a long time. I'll totally throw you into the xerox machine.

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BarleyPat (November 13, 2008)

Did you see the new episode last night? I really liked it. It was much better than the last one. The parts involving the normal characters were really good, but the diamond heist parts were kinda weak, doncha know, golly gee youbecha

*wink

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MattRamone (November 13, 2008)

A failure is you!

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BarleyPat (November 13, 2008)

It's nothing against the other two, I just have a huge boner for Propaghandi

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diplodocuscore (November 13, 2008)

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

This.

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diplodocuscore (November 13, 2008)

no, this:

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

Well, duh.

I hope this comes out on Fat. if not , Fat is pretty much fucked...

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JHrecords (November 13, 2008)

??

You and me both. The song "Home" melts me like ice cream.

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android (November 13, 2008)

count me in.

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deadelectromix (November 13, 2008)

I'm more partial to doing Alex.

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acris (November 13, 2008)

THIS

I would bone him to Mars

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Your boner would explode due to the pressure thing.

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acris (November 13, 2008)

stop being factual

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diplodocuscore (November 13, 2008)

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

I enjoy Williams in a confined situation, like a movie role. When he's allowed to run free (stand up or interviews) he's unbearable. Here, "Loud black man" "Popeye" "Southern preacher" "gay pizza chef" that's his whole interview. Awful.

I'd say Andrew Dice Clay but he's not really overrated (all the comics and critics hate his shit) but he was popular. Absolutely awful hack material. Carlos Mencia would also top my list.
-Dante

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sugarfull (November 13, 2008)

The Day The Laughter Died was such a terrible album.

Jerry Seinfeld with a bullet.

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diplodocuscore (November 13, 2008)

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

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JoelSweetheart (November 13, 2008)

No. NO NO NO NONONONONONOOOOOOO!

I told you I would come down to your little claptrap trailer park of a town in Florida and choke you to death and I am serious.

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Tudor (November 13, 2008)

Why are you always trying to push "noise" band so hard on this site?

Even for a noise band you suck. Everybody and their fucking dog thinks throwing together a contact mic and distortion pedal and screaming into a microphone is art.

Even if it is just "noise" you can still tell who actually puts in effort and those who just want to join in on a trend. Your "band" needs alot of work.

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niveK82 (November 13, 2008)

wouldnt it be great if the .org had a block list?

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JoelSweetheart (November 13, 2008)

yeah, I'd like to shoot Jerry Seinfeld with a bullet. Especially after that Bee Movie media blitz...christ.

how is dane cook rated? doesn't matter because i fucking hate him.

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FelixT (November 13, 2008)

I forgot his name, but the guy in Super High Me. I hate his stand up, I just don't think that smoking pot, then saying dumb and unfunny things, swearing every 2 words, just to make a bunch of stoners laugh, is any good.

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niveK82 (November 13, 2008)

Doug Benson. I don't find his stand up to funny, but I like his podcast I Love Movies. I alos think he is great in other things like Best Week Ever and the Doug Benson Interruption

That Dane Cook is rated at all makes him overrated.

I got an old Richard Pryor album that bothers me. I think he may have been fucked up or something because I can't understand half of what he is saying. I didn't laugh once.

It would definately have to be Carlos Mencia.

Robin Williams and Jerry Seinfeld get passes from me because they've done some brilliant shit.

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Citizen_Crack (November 13, 2008)

Yes. Dude fucking sucks.

by overrated, do you mean critically or commercially? or what?

i think david cross's stand up is awful. i've seen him 3 or 4 times, and he's only been funny once. Mr. Show was amazing, as was Tobias Funke. but standup wise he's pretty overrated.

"...man, look at those cans."

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diplodocuscore (November 13, 2008)

http://www.myspace.com/nondescriptnoize

"who farted?"

Sarah found herself thinking of Todd's huge cock as the monkey crept up behind her.

"hmm, i wonder what those eloquent, respectable young men at punknews are doing"

"Look, Simba. Everything the light touches is our kingdom."

Bitches don't know shit about my urine fetish.

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Punkinohio (November 13, 2008)

win

"I hope I didn't get any cum in her hair."

"did he just put his thumb in my ass?"

If this is a consular ship, WHERE is the ambassador?

Commander, tear this ship apart until you find those plans! And bring me all passengers, I want them ALIVE!

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Citizen_Crack (November 13, 2008)

Win.

I'm a motorboatin' son of a bitch.

Sarah Palin: So stupid, she melts faces.

and others are getting sandwiches.

no yes and yes

I think Build and Burn is much better than KYH, except Suture Self and Player Hater

EP>KYH>BnB

me love KYH; BnB ain't that bad either

Also sometimes I typo the name of one of my favorite bands because the children in this house refuse to shut up.

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scientistrock (November 13, 2008)

Or is it because of the Canadian thing?

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lintsay (November 13, 2008)

No we just add extra u-s. We're soooo crazy.

Yyyeeaahhh!!

clearly it will be record of the year.

yo i checked out your band and im impressed hell yea